This is BREAKING Minecraft PvP

[@IntelEdits]

Some things I want to address: I know high ping can be a severe disadvantage in certain gamemodes, primarily crystal and shield based PvP, however these gamemodes are a lot more niche and the disadvantages that high ping causes are tied to specific items. Knockback scaling applies to almost every PvP based gamemode and taking reduced knockback at the price for a little bit higher ping is worth it in so many situations. The affect that ping has on knockback is ridiculous and should not exist in the game. This can easily be fixed by Minecraft servers or by Minecraft itself if they actually cared about PvP

[@delta2370]

I feel like high ping is only a advantage in sword an pot pvp. In everything else its just a disatvatage.

[@Kart]

i'm not sure how this could be fixed, u mean just by changing the falling knockback to something that comes closer to the ground knockback?

[@polarr8593]

Me personally I would say that at around 100 ping it doesn't matter hugely nut once ur up to 230 like I am its just painful to deal with especially shield delay

[@exhxusted3682]

Bro stop studying this game go outside touch grass like a normal KZbinr

[@IntelEdits]

@@Kart easiest way would just be to remove knockback scaling like how a lot of 1.8 servers have already done, isn't that hard to do either server side. IMO knockback scaling shouldn't be enabled by default in minecraft at all given all the issues it causes with interregional play

[@KingCarrot]

i find it funny that in 1.8, the rod is in nearly every major pvp loadout to halt enemy movement and start combos, and in most rod-less loadouts you're given blocks to do the same thing, both of which become horrendous to use on high ping. then high ping players move to 1.9 and they not only lose the disadvantage of laggy rods or blocks, but also gain the advantage of less kb

[@KingCarrot]

also i know that high ping does come with other disadvantages like getting the first hit being harder and s-tapping being stronger in certain anti-cheats, but both of those are kind of negated when you can just walk thru ur opponents combo on high ms

[@exfordovsky5315]

@@KingCarrot depends on the gamemode. With the lower ping in bridge, you get to score before your opponent

[@KingCarrot]

@@exfordovsky5315 tbh id rather take less kb than score a tenth of a second later

[@exfordovsky5315]

@@KingCarrot exactly my point, yeah hahah edit: nevermind, read it the wrong way. I'd rather take a little more kb, because milliseconds in bridge are really important. I won and lost countless times because of it.

[@TennisMaster709]

The new editing style is amazing, first video I actually enjoyed in a while, amazing job!

[@Bigbroplays]

@bluers me too

[@LeastBeautifulBacon]

@bluers me too

[@Baggerz182]

repent to God

[@pantspissed]

hi tennis

[@straight9767]

Y r u not uploading tennis

[@SixEightSixty]

Very good points. I have mained 1.9+ pvp for well over a year and there are pretty annoying issues, great video!

[@loaf2550]

I'm so glad someone finally made this video about 1.9 pvp n ping.. I play alot of minemen, but lately been mainly playing 1.9 pvp the past few months, n tbh the more I play 1.9 the more I realize how nerfed it is, I can easily combo people below 75 to 80 ms, but when fight someone at 80 ms or above I can never combo them! I kinda did this exact experiment with my friend who's wifi is not good at the moment n it's close to impossible to combo them. It's true 1.9+ pvp takes alot of skill in pvp, there are so many game modes to master n learn, but I feel now people are just dissing 1.8 pvp saying it takes no skill which is not true, sure u have to spam click but people also gotta understand there's more to is beside spamming. There is alot of skill in both versions and there both nerfed in their own ways!

[@moonator8]

Yeah, like idk why ppl even sau that 1.8 PvP is not skill based, if it was just this easy, like just spam click and that's it then EVERY SINGLE person would be a god but that isn't true I've been playing 1.8 PvP for about 4 years now and I am ok at it but I still get absolutely demolished because I don't know some mechanics or techniques like there are some mechanics and techniques that you have to know/practice to actually become decent at it.

[@loaf2550]

@@moonator8 agreed my g

[@jdraiby]

agreed

[@SS____________]

@@moonator8That’s just not true, I can click up to 51 cps with drag clicking but I can still hit insane combos with just 5 cps. It’s all about strafing and sprint resetting, and I think 1.9 mains are super ignorant and don’t realize that cps is not the only thing in 1.8, but rather a meaningless excuse

[@sammygreenbw]

so what you’re saying is that my australian ping is finally an advantage in something!????

[@mu.ri.lo.f]

yes

[@TOMMYWINK]

Just play on oceania server

[@Bigbroplays]

Since we all know pvp is ping based (not completely) but 1.9 especially is because you have gamemodes like crystal, which give an unadvantage to higher ping players, since they can't place crystals fast enough in some situations. But high ping can also be a big advantage in 1.19 pvp because of the knockback you take and is useful in gamemodes such as sword. All things said, I'm glad you addressed these things about the future of pvo, great video.

[@SnowyRedstone]

The issue with 1.9 pvp is that ping is such a penalty. It's like a semi-auto rifle in battlefield. In sword if you use it good/you are lucky you destroy the other guy, otherwise you get flawless. Since you have to time your hits you can't just spam click and wish to have as much damage output as possible like on 1.8

[@Bigbroplays]

@@SnowyRedstone fr bro, I don't hate 1.9 pvp, but I've played 1.8 for almost a year now, and I'm still not thr best. It's starting to get boring, do that's why I'm probably gonna make the switch to 1.9. But you are right, in gamemodes such as sword high ping players do have the advantage, because of their wierd knockback,making them very hard to combo. That's why your best chance in those kind of situations you have to either critspam combo or strafe around them.

[@crystalnuke302]

Cw moment

[@Tom_HopeCore]

i mean ya'll are acting like every player has a high amount of ping. Most comp players won't have high ping plus, talking about lag can be true for 1.8 as well. I think 1.9 is better because overall, it has more skill than clicking fast and pointing BY FAR

[@alt1898]

@@Tom_HopeCore 1.8 pvp isn't only clicking fast and aiming bruh

[@CraftMellow]

i love how intel is the one out of all to explain everything to the entire community at once

[@suoped8789]

Another problem with ping: on your screen you are blocking your shield, on opponents (much higher ping then you) not yet. On their screen everything is normal, on your screen you get hit through your shield

[@threety-three5091]

This works both ways

[@Blitevebad]

Wouldn't you get hut reg if that happened

[@laserslime]

Pretty sure shield blocking is handled by the server, thus it should not be affected by client ping. It should rather be the other way around. The low ping player might have their shield blocked while the high player can't yet see it.

[@UltraAryan10]

@@laserslime It happens both ways, high ping players can get hit through their shield because of server not activating it yet and they can hit someone without a shield up and find out their shield was up already and they had just not received the visual cue yet.

[@ATULYY]

Yeah, that's why im also a 1.8 pvp main rather than 1.9 cuz its unplayable if your opponent has high ping.

[@ebates7954]

It’s Minecraft. Each version is cool in their ways

[@mathis841]

Tru

[@BlurryDrafts]

Mans sayin faxs

[@Ojenroc456]

I like Education Edition 💀

[@itsmesean201]

Not the pre-alpha versions

[@BlurryDrafts]

@@itsmesean201 like all

[@RasplinYT]

Banger video

[@goofy.exe78]

first comment on verified KZbin after 6 month!!!!

[@AlbertEinstein-j5f]

dang only 1 comment a year after being posted? bro fell off 💀

[@iusehuzuni]

1.7 supremacy.

[@finjester382]

The quality and in depth explanations are so nice. One of the best Minecraft KZbinrs out there honestly

[@thewhiteblackreaper8133]

agreeed

[@Baggerz182]

repent to God

[@KitasanBuraku]

@@Baggerz182 i will for letting someone like you come into this world

[@polfloe10]

Those people in the beginning who said that 1.8 has no skill requirement...

[@oranjie]

Honestly man, I’m just hoping Mojang goes back to those pvp snapshots and finally comes up with something to satisfy both sides

[@reeseon10]

im very confused why they haven't allowed us to enable legacy combat on worlds and servers its been 6 years

[@Outcastic]

@@reeseon10 we got the bad timeline

[@oldm44zali]

@@reeseon10 they won't do it until their game dies. That is what kind of prick they are

[@maeyshine]

@Duck tha Goat i think they stated that theyr not going to sadly. They said something like go to 1.8 if u like old pvp.

[@ultraniter691]

@@maeyshine mojang said they’re still doing the update, but because 1.18 and 1.19 were delayed they had to put the snapshot on pause for a bit. Besides they’re still ironing out kinks so that the combat system can be used for both Java and Bedrock for cross compatibility and to balance PvP and PVE

[@oProphecy]

"1.8 is just spam clicking" and that's the fun of it

[@sploob865]

Finally, another excuse to use when you get absolutely eviscerated in all pvp modes.

[@vans9314]

Intel edits:- upload Me :- how this is not possible

[@asimoayyy]

In 1.8 knockback scaling actually makes sense anddoesn't cause issues for competitive play (sure it's nice for combos without it on mmc, but in a competitive scenario the opponent would back out before it becomes relevant). In 1.9 tho it always annoyed me even on low ping since kb is already low enough.

[@profx33]

Hello

[@furkani.]

I am glad we have you in our pvp community. your content is much more different and professional than other content creators'

[@IntelEdits]

BTW I have high ping (100-120ms) on most PvP servers, and I've played with high ping since I got into the game. It's definitely a way bigger advantage on 1.9+ PvP compared to 1.8/1.7

[@ultraniter691]

As someone who sometimes plays 1.9 PvP on school wifi, I can confirm this

[@TheSonamuTree]

I dont think 100ms is that high man.. try to play on servers where you have over 200ms. You wont be so sure about high ping advantage thingy.

[@elly256]

@@TheSonamuTree I've played with 200 ping and it is an advantage

[@ignKraken]

100 ms is low ping Australians always get 200+

[@TheSonamuTree]

@@elly256 cuz people you fight are garbage

[@DiamondSaberYT]

Both are cool - 1.9 from time to time or for survival servers, 1.8 for competitive games and mini games.

[@7PXL1]

Ping is a very large issue in 1.9 I agree and was addressed very well in this video and to become a truly good 1.9 player you need to know how to overcome different pings, it is what can separate a t3 from a t2, you need to completely change your playstyle in order to counter it (and if done effectively makes you a more versatile player) but, whether you like it or not, it is a flawed feature that is here to stay so, in the nicest possible way, people just gotta deal with it lol. However this does allow ping spoofing where people deliberately raise their ping to gain an advantage which does really suck. Also, re timing of hits can almost completely counter high ms if done correctly, if you would like to watch this done effectively, i would recommend watching Vexaay Vs Kylaz, Vexaay is by far the best at doing this

[@Lucas_mtb69]

People with high ping also have many disadvantages.

[@FlashCrusader]

Banger video and also glad someone adressed ping issue as a sword main I cry on the inside when someone has above 100 ping

[@Firespecialstar]

"1.8 is only spam clicking!!!1!1" "1.19+ is only lagging on purpose to take less kb" (better i make this clear that this is a joke)

[@weevee]

Introducing lag pvp

[@Andrid1]

this was an amazingly educational video i ima nethpot player that plays with 50-120 ping players since netherite has reduced kb already its relly frustarting when someone can just crit spam me when im doing perfect spacing. Thank you for shining light on ping and how it is used in pvp i hope to make a vid like this very soon :)

[@Rayvenns]

That's how you play nethpot.

[@blizz4rdfv]

@@Rayvenns ayy its rayvens!

[@XtrminatR7]

I once lost all my gear on an smp server because I was blocking a creeper explosion while mining but the explosion just went through. 220 ping

[@shauryatomar5321]

I would like to say that the second test is kinda wrong considering you hit him again while he was in midair so he did not take the full kb amount. Video with great editing and good as always :)

[@eco5312]

that’s the point of the video

[@WispicNebula]

Bro did not listen to a single thing the guy said

[@Bibu3404]

Intel’s back! Intel’s back!

[@T4zchi]

Crystal - High ping is a massive disadvantage (same with Cart) Axe - High ping is a disadvantage Sword - High ping is a slight advantage that scales with skill level (same with NethPot)

[@KrappyPatty-ry6lj]

"If you want to win in Minecraft PvP, have bad internet" -Sun Tzu, Art of 1.19 pvp

[@_Cubicake]

3:19 or... you know... you just live in australia? (400 is goodish)

[@juliapaci]

minecraft calculates knockback relative to "motion" x, y and z not position x, y and z this also explains "knockback scailing". Also im pretty sure the ping threshold needed for "knockback reduction" will change depending on how the server calculates player position and motion, etc. usually it would be similar because there are normalized ways to deal with these values.

[@mak_7274]

In my opinion 1.8 is a better pvp system, because you have a quick fight and go on, while 1.9 and above look cooler, almost feels medival in a way, however its super annoying when you have to fight one guy for 4 hours because he just keeps running away and eating steaks (assuming you are not on a server of course)

[@kaatwo]

I always wondered why I hate fighting laggers so much, most people don't really have high ping on purpose it can vary from what device they are using to where they are located in the world but the unfortunate thing is there is nothing stopping people from abusing high ping

[@ToxicKrait]

another reason why I like vanilla knockback (hypixel kb) it makes the kb totally random so everyone has a fair chance to combo

[@altqd502]

@@ToxicKrait hypixels knockback isnt vanilla its also modified a bit

[@ToxicKrait]

@@altqd502 o

[@Arnoldismouldy]

Ive always said that the new combat system has very weird knock back

[@TranAran]

"Look what they need to do to mimic a fraction of my power." - *ashswag,* probably

[@SerGamingGG]

my average pin is 2k 😈😈😈

[@x_altari]

This was pretty engaging and quite validating. I've been saying this has been an issue for years, and nobody believed me. Banger video, keep up the great work g.

[@galaxycrafteOP]

Intel, please do a video about "Tips and Tricks for Bridge Fights in Bedwars"

[@HypixelPickle]

FINALY A VID!!!

[@StarlieW]

"Let's try worst case scenario. So like, *you're on a potato laptop in Brazil* " I am SO mad because you are SO right about it, god damn it

[@Fxraz]

about the knockback to put it in more technical terms, the vertical limit works differently on 1.9 than in 1.8: - on 1.8 you take no additional vertical knockback after exceeding the vertical limit - on 1.9 you take negative vertical knockback after exceeding the vertical limit this is why knockback scaling is a thing on 1.9 but not 1.8

[@yoav999]

I just want to add something to what you said in 7:09 you also need to take Mojang's original planning for creating minecraft, They did not intend it to be a pvp based game so that's why it's there, it was more of a PVE based game originally and that's why they probably changed the combat system

[@VamirB]

I play pvp legacy where most people have over 90 ping and I always had a suspicion that ping had an effect when i tried to learn how to combo

[@lool8421]

1.8 isn't just spam clicking, but also knockback manipulation, but that's literally what makes 1.8 so confusing to learn, like sprint resets aren't intuitive at all, or the fact that crits are bad since you lose the reach advantage, not to mention that if you have 100ms more ping than your opponent, if they have 10cps, they're guaranteed to get the 1st hit 1.9 is way more straight forward and less ping-based, also features more strategy/complexity, knockback isn't as significant as in 1.8, but still does its thing

[@friedtoaster4059]

Its a lot of things. 1.8.9 is very fast paced and you need to use tons of items at once. You need to learn moving mechanics and just small strategies that make up most of the game. Its not the combat that makes the game though. Its the server

[@loopyzreal]

Plus it’s not just sprint resetting. Ive played 1.8 and have put a lot of time into mastering it. The hole goes real deep with 1.8 and I’d say is even more complex than 1.9+ due to the community being around for longer - alongside its unintuitive learning curve. Here are a few niche techniques which make all of the difference with top mmc/rbw players. Jump Reducing Pivot-offset aiming A-D tapping Whav-Burst Click Offensive/Defensive resets Forcestacking Pre-Reset Lewell Blockhitting Hitselecting Tick Manipulation

[@lool8421]

@@loopyzreal yeah, and explain all those words to a beginner that doesn't understand those advanced mechanics for pvp, then they don't know how to get combos at all 1.9 is way more self-explainatory, without having to focus on those frame-perfect timings to get one more hit, however the excessive healing makes it kinda suck, like full hunger could heal half as fast, but keep slightly more hunger points

[@friedtoaster4059]

@@lool8421 different people like different things but you cant say 1.8.9 is bad because you dont want to learn it

[@SuperLlama88888]

Great video! I play on a high ping on MCBE and the knockback seems consistent between me and lower-ping players.

[@GigaChadGaming1293]

even if you have the fastest wifi 📶☠ this can still be a problem

[@CromextheCoder]

I think the smartest option is to not reduce/remove it as then, high ping players would basically fly like on bedrock, but to make the game calculate the entire vector of the players kb first, both on client and server, calculate after what time the player needs to be at what position and make the client send time stamps to the server so that it knows what values to use to calculate the kb of the next hit. Also, using a ping tracker the client could also send a packet to the server that adds the ms of ping to the values to basically cancel out ping.

[@r1lzz]

we do not need a new pvp version, 1.19 is great, but we just need mojang to fix this issue

[@i30]

A major problem is that people are not educated enough on 1.8 pvp. Some even believe some of these outlandish myths: - Every click deals damage. This isn't true; you can only be damaged once every 0.5 seconds. - It's purely cps based. No, I can win fights against people no matter what cps I click. - Knockback reduction is easy; you do not take knockback with high cps - no, kb reducing is simply the slowdown you get from hitting someone, which transitions from a true sprinting to a false sprinting. In true sprinting, you deal more knockback, lose more hunger, etc. (one reason w tapping is important) - Not skill - Ok lmao, I can't win with autoclicker and against people much better than me, not at all.

[@-thebanditpenguin-9309]

3:00 you forget that that is because you are constantly swinging when you cooldown, he isnt taking any less knock back you are looking at this wrong, he kb isnt reduced on high ping, it’s simply delayed, you just decided to hit him at bad timing for fighting someone with high ping 💀

[@hello111]

I have somewhere around 150ms on PvP legacy since I live on the opposite side of the globe relatively to where the server is hosted. That's really saddening but can be fun sometimes, when people get destroyed and start blaming my high ping (mostly they are right). People there sometimes don't hold themselves and say whatever they want. It seems that you can say literally anything in chat there and get away with it. And I really appreciate it.

[@---li1oo]

Wow, I finally understand why when I play in my country I rarely take knockback, guess there aren’t many servers in Asia

[@araara1709]

high ping is a disadvantage in any gamemode ngl i have high ping and wished i had low ping.

[@xdenderjay3260]

If you are frozen in 1.19 and start crit spamming your opponent, your hits will still register.

[@khamabhattacharjya6108]

Ok so ping nowadays, from my experience, doesn't really effect 1.9 pvp that much. Reason being there are countless ways to counter it, most common being slightly delaying your kb hits to deal full knockback, but somtimes if the timing is a bit off the enemy can hit you back and end the combo. But the easier way to counter high ping is critting more than your enemy, or slightly delaying your p crits to get a p crits chain on them even when they are hitselecting, or just get a double crit on them. Now I am not saying that high ping is disadvantageous, but it has both advantageous and disadvantageous much like low ping. It's about taking the advantage of the respective ping.

[@BigestMans]

He returns

[@Leo1-8]

I agree with everything you said in the video, although I must say that being in the air longer because of higher ping can still be a bad thing. In crystal pvp (one of the most popular categories of 1.9+ pvp), the main attack is called hit-crystal, which is basically hitting your opponent in the air and then crystalling below their feet. Meaning if a player has a higher ping, therefore staying longer in the air, the attacker has more time to crystal below their feet, meaning the player with the higher ping has a bigger chance to lose if they get hit-crystalled.

[@rosemary8535]

There should be ping divisions on servers, it would make the game so much more fair and enjoyable

[@ItzAnimePixel]

I try to ignore the fact that some servers have their knowback like weird but at the same time neither way I’m just like my self

[@takennmc]

Also don't forget the fact that people could be somewhere different on their side of the screen compared to the server which can cause missed hits and then the other person can use that.

[@takennmc]

@@user-827JJJJJJefjkjen9llwn People with really bad ping could tp when you swing making you miss a hit

[@giblotskii659]

intel: high ping is an advantage me: *gets destroyed on 150 ping* cries in a corner

[@studstone]

I guess I've always considered facing laggy players as another aspect that comes with learning 1.9 pvp (kinda like sword, axe, crystal, etc). Learning the mechanics of why it is so was rather interesting tho. All in all, nice vid :)

[@NinetyRalph]

I don't want rod pvp to die :(

[@nyafu_uwu]

i kind of feel like he was just insulting high ping players for no reason when he was explaining how the kb scales. he also didn't say any of the absolutely awful things high ping players have to deal with like being disconnected or being insulted for having high ping on a sweaty server.

[@celystal2831]

Hive: ok let’s scale the kb so much and make the islands so small that high ping or not you will get smacked into the void

[@seismic11]

I 100% agree, as a 230ping player i have to say that my experience with the game has been very toxic and demotivating, as my ping gets in the way of many things and makes pvp not as fun

[@maxmachtmit]

Intel: talking about knockback with high ping Also Intel: Playing Hypixel bedwars for the past 100 years

[@ibenchmorethanyou]

This is also a big issue in Australia and other places where the lowest ping I can get is 110-120

[@2pqc]

there are australian 1.9 servers... did u want the ip to one?

[@thomasjohnson4987]

oceprestige

[@thomasjohnson4987]

now i dont want to ever see u on a non au server again

[@reaIixx]

See this is why I don't play sword, they think they can control knockback and move in a specific way to hit from more than 2.8 blocks

[@この痛みを吸って飲んだ]

Dude made Minecraft math and science

[@Longie520]

my experience on pvp legacy truly resonate with this vid. being aussie, my ping on legacy is 250. im axe main and i wanna be dueling good players out there, but they usually sword spam me after a shield break as taking advantage of my ping. every 2 hits i get a reduced kb, causing me unable to time my pcrits within a sufficient time frame and just dies. now i know to not rely on pcrit on high ping tl;dr: the reduced kb make pcrits more difficult to time for the pinger

[@NotSecps]

Hey Intel, great editing, and I enjoyed this video a lot. Just wanted to say, if you could ever make a video on the Combat Test Snapshots, (CTS) that'd be greatly appreciated by the CTS Community. (CTS is basically dead right now, and losing popularity)

[@profx33]

CTS good

[@NotSecps]

@@profx33 eyy prof

[@eca_8783]

im 90% sure ping works in chunks of 50s aka it dosent matter if you have 1 or 40 ping you (because of how minecraft works) will basically have 50 ping (same thing with 59 or 70 both ping values will be put at 100) . I feel like this makes it so the ping issues arent that big until you get to a 100+ ping diffrence. This is how it works in 1.8 so im not exactly sure if any networking changes were made for 1.9+ so take this info with a grain of salt

[@eca_8783]

small correction: there wasent any networking changes. Minecraft still runs on 20TPS (which is why the ping works in chunks of 50 (1000miliseconds divided by 20 = 50)

[@Darkcocacla]

Fun fact having 100 ping is mostly the best ping for pvping on Minecraft cause I will see no teleport and u have better comboes cause u can use the input delay to hit players more times in a combo

[@dudesweat6788]

So technically with 150+ ping I am invincible?

[@blizz4rdfv]

yes you are, until you play crystal

[@Fipsu.]

Everyone still remember high ping is still annoying as shit. The kb advantage is not a bit advantage compared to other stuff that comes with high ping. Me personally, i have a pretty high ping in non europian servers, around 130-190 and the amount of hitreg and delayed hits are unthinkable. Even thou intel is saying that its easier to combo on high ping, Im not standing with that. When playing with a both high ping and low ping its better with low ping, trust me. Sorry for my bad english, take care❤️

[@elly256]

It's so much easier to combo with high ping before stray added the Asia proxy I used to play on pvp legacy and get 200 ms and easily combos all the players all u have to do is delay ur wtap and s tapping is alot easier

[@elly256]

The only people I can't combo are other people with high ping

[@ignKraken]

Ye I agree I never get below 200 ping bc I'm Australian

[@abcdef-zl9op]

You made it see like its very easy for high ping players but its not because when a low ping player hits a high ping player the high ping player take delayed kb due to which low ping player can get 2 hits in the time high ping player lands back and when the high ping player is hit he takes kb and is in the sir while the other player is on the ground and can move so to counter this high ping player need to have a really good aim so I think that creates a little skill difference

[@isshwor]

0:35 aha i see what u did there :p

[@judahforshey1865]

As someone who constantly has ping above 100ms, 80-150ms is the sweet spot. Anything above that and the lag is just unbearable and outways the advantages.

[@zvanmilisavljevic8879]

happy new year!

[@Pyranafish]

Also for some reason i cant hit players even when I am tracking them all the time because of my tinfoil router

[@ItsCobolt]

Pls play bedwars with a full RedThunder gaming set up! If you do use the RedThunder 60% Gaming Keyboard as the keyboard. It is the one I use!

[@sillygtwoah]

I got this from an ad called “this”

[@Wato-1876]

I think this is a good point for one factor, but there is a lot more

[@theenderassassin4103]

This is admittedly true, but I will note that in cases of very high ping, kb can "stack up" over multiple hits and send a person flying into the void all at once. The hits they deal to you in the meantime can be handled by jump resets, which disadvantages high ping players in void gamemodes given optimal gameplay. High-ish ping, you can still combo (just space them out in between sword hits and S tap), so the most "unfair" range is usually in between 150-230ms. This range is bad, but Minecraft does give one disadvantage to high ping in 1.9 PvP, and that's vertical knockback, which is delayed just as horizontal knockback. If you crit a high ping player in a specific way (I forget the exact technique, but it involves double crits), you'll simply be able to get more hits on them, since they'll be stuck in the air unable to crit multiple times while you're outdamaging them. Given that this works even on void maps (again, jump resets to handle the kb they deal out), high ping isn't a (major) advantage in a competitive setting in sword. Other gamemodes alternately disadvantage or advantage high ping, most notably crystal, but altogether it's definitely a manageable thing to fight against, besides in strictly combo duels - which is a very artificial gamemode.

[@UltraDucc]

as a major 1.9 main. i completely agree with the ping issue. i honestly just try and not fight players with high ping. which should not be a thing. but unfortunately the odds mojang cares at ALL is very low..

[@zeyneyamohammed809]

I’ve tried and enjoyed bedrock edition pvp. What I love is how the hits only go up and not much out. This is much better imo, as i’ve fought 300+ pingers on bedrock, and all that was really affected was trades, although the low ping experience was obviously smoother. In the cts, high ping is mainly a disadvantage, because even if the hits stack and you take reduced knockback, you can hit them faster again, or tap s so the reduced knockback doesnt break the combo and then switch to the trident to get more reach and catch the combo. 1.8’s biggest downside is default knockback dealing too much kb to hold long combos, and minemen knockback having flyers all the time.

[@noah_l0l]

As someone who has played nodebuff for 8 years, I get upset when people say that pre-1.9 combat requires no skill. It's obviously false, and all that shows is that the general population is becoming less & less familiar with 1.7/1.8... and that it's losing popularity.

[@kagetani7705]

omg finally someone who would make a vid about this, Im so tired of people saying 1.8 is not skill based. Its not I dont play 1.9 and i think its bad ive played in like 3 or 4 pvp allowed smps and i really enjoyed my time there, but 1.8 really is skill based too. also can literally anyone name one person that tellys in mcc island?😂 . probably not because 1.9 block placement is buggy lol. I think this is a big issue too.

[@s.bgaming6134]

i cant believe sharpness let him get a clip

[@XyBloxz]

As soon as u said PING i got a big smile on my face

[@lildrgon.]

Heyy!!! Intel!! Big fan bro.

[@Lucas_mtb69]

It’s almost impossible to combo someone with over 200 ping. There are many factors that play a part, but the one advantage that they do have doesn’t even matter, because everything is so glitchy.

[@aureatus]

I don't play 1.9 pretty often but i can guarantee you that 20 ms is immensely greater than 160ms on 1.8

[@Mcbe-]

Just wanted to say I watched you old 2021 fps boosting tutorial and I copied the settings and my fps went from 30 to 130. TYSM

[@jp7080_]

it's exactly because it has much more to master that 1.8- has better pvp. Block hitting, w and s tapping, strafe, block pvp, projectiles, rods, shears. This is just better than 1.9+ pvp. 💀

[@epiccombo5622]

Legend Intel is back guys deserve to best PvP player