THIS IS DIGIMON?!?! Reacting to "Pokemon Fan plays Digimon and hated it" by Jaiden Animations

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[@wearywolfkins4755]

As a long time Digimon fan the “hurt over and over again but still hanging onto hope” line is just painfully accurate. If you want an enjoyable Digimon experience, watch the anime, the story and characters is where Digimon has always had the edge over Pokémon in my opinion, partly because the story actually concludes rather than runs on with an eternal 10 year old. I’d recommend Seasons 1 and 2 for a nice complete story and then 3 if your still into it. Sub or Dub is fine, just remember the Dub is by Fox Kids from the early 2000’s era of anime dubs where localisation and censoring are heavy so things can get weird, and jokes, so, so many jokes. If you are dead set on a game then Cyber Sleuth is good but for a complete newbie to Digimon I'd recommend the Digimon Adventure PSP game, it technically never left Japan but it's easy enough to "aquire" when sailing the internet seas, just slap on the fan patch for an english translation and your good to go.

[@nkonyoutube9941]

To add on that first part... lemme just say. For honor... if ya know then ya know

[@theduckgoesmoo]

I hope she makes a new video and plays that game

[@loganshaw4527]

@@theduckgoesmoo the poeple who make Digimon games have a unhealthy obsession with mazes or interlocking platform designs that loop back at different points. The digi evolving is very random unless you min max certain stats to see the main or off shooting evolving trees. The stories need work and the gameplay is random ideas put in a game. So no wonder the Fandom did not know which game was a good game. Or a starter game without starting with the old games.

[@roka9963]

I genuinely enjoyed most of the digimon games tbh.

[@broccoliben7961]

The games don’t do Digimon justice, it’s the anime that’s amazing

[@duduteixeira7736]

6:25 the reason why the fire lion is named Coronamon is because is from the latin word for sun, fitting since his mega level is Apollomon (based on the greek god of the sun). Same with other digimon partner in Digimon World Dusk named Lunamon (a moon rabbit)

[@BJGvideos]

Isn't it crown rather than sun? But it's associated with the sun because the "halo" around the sun is called that

[@DanFDTR]

The quality of Digimon games varies greatly from game to game but the show is amazing.

[@melissamurray8307]

Even seasons like Frontier has its good points.

[@AlexThat200]

Here’s the thing about the game she started with to get into Digimon. Digimon World Dawn and Dusk are sequel games to Digimon World DS (with 2 more sequels that never released outside of Japan). The sequels assume you’ve played the previous game and don’t ease you into it like the first one does. Granted that doesn’t help the problems she herself had, but the reason it was acclaimed as an okay game is because the games were played by prior fans mostly. Also the games were mostly meant to be played in segments, like when kids would come back from school. So not a good streaming game. And I guess Japanese kids are apparently built different when it comes to patience. She’s definitely taking the right step going for Cyber Sleuth next, as that game is more accessible and fun. Especially if you like gameplay from Pokémon and/or Persona/SMT. That being said, the games are more like supplements to the anime and trading card game which a a big majority of the fandom agrees blows the Pokémon counterparts out of the water. As long as you watch the first 3 episodes of the first season, then you’ll get the gist of what Digimon are. Genuine question though: What’s so wrong with the title of the Digimon games? Most Pokémon games only have 1 word after literally “Pokémon”. What’s so bad about “Cyber Sleuth”?

[@TrueLucinova]

I think the name Cybersleuth is pretty normal and fitting, since the "Digi" part of Digimon comes from "digital", and you spend the game investigating; as a newcomer, it was a very fun game to start with I have played Persona 5 as well, but the experience felt much closer to Pokémon Colosseum and XD for me

[@smugsneasel]

Alright listen, before I do my play-by-play, I have to say that despite my name and icon, I'm a digimon apologist. So I'll have a lot to say. And yeah, Digimon games historically aren't really...that good (I even played the counterpart to this game as a kid: Digimon World Dusk) until recently at least. But I've also played both Digimon Cyber Sleuth games and let me tell you, they made me experience joy and engagement that pokemon failed to make me do from their main games since gen 5 (Original Sun and Moon games being the exception)

[@KrystianZieba-kc8tx]

Exactly!

[@katomamundara8106]

Jaiden went with the gods damned Pokemon Brilliant Diamond Shining Pearls.

[@BJGvideos]

I'm trying to work my way through Cyber Sleuth and I'm finding it an utter slog. How did you deal with the grossly repetitive story and gameplay? If I have to do another "go back to the same dungeon you just got out of to find my lost item no you can't take more than one mission at a time" mission, I'm gonna mcfrickin lose it

[@runeanonymous9760]

@@katomamundara8106 Dawn and Dusk weren't that bad. They were, like, Black and White or something at worst- up until Cybersleuth most Digimon games were only bought because if we didn't they might stop making and bringing over the anime, and only played them because we were desperate for content. I have fond memories of Dusk, which is this game's companion game, which Digimon has only done thrice (unless you count Hacker's Memory but that was released later and with a whole new story)- Anode and Cathode, both of which are dubiously canon to the first three seasons of the anime (and later there was a remake of them but they didn't make a premium version or remake both of them as separate games, they just dumped them both on the same cartridge). Dawn and Dusk is the second attempt, and Dusk is the better game, and is the canon one, the female protagonist being canonical. The last one is Xross Wars Red and Blue and they don't have any international releases or fan translations. The games don't follow the anime which to be fair tge Data Squad game doesn't either. (Also she didn't figure out how to make more Digimon from scan data, which would have made it easier. And using thr Farm to talk to the Digimon and watch them farm meat and run on treadmills makes it less tedious, but you kind of need to have enough Digimon to that and also there's a resource management element with Farms because you have to grow enough meat for everyone) Xros Wars is widely hated because they removed Digivolution and replaced it with some combination thing that needed multiple Digimon, whereas up until that time you needed a powerful and close relationship to do that. Also there was a lot of nerfing of Digimon and while traditionally Wanting To Rule The World is Bad, it's a good thing here, and a bunch of kids got isekaied to engage to become generals of armies. And they nerfed satan.

[@smugsneasel]

@@BJGvideos The dungeon design is one of the major issues with Cyber Sleuth. Even the slightly improved version in the sequel is just barely better. The lost item missions are just the worst result of that. Honestly, it's more that the grinding part of the game becomes quick and mindless as you progress and get more hacking powers. The story and characters and missions get really interesting as you go along.

[@ShahroozSmith]

If you're unsure of what a digimon is or where the world of digimon is. The english theme song for the first Digimon anime pretty much sums it up. "Digimon, Digital Monsters. Digimon are the champions. Change into digital champions to save the digital world. Digi-evolve into champion. Digi-evolve into ultimate. Digimon, Digital Monsters. Digimon are the champions."

[@viktorlarsson8724]

Digimon is great! I have so many great memories of playing digimon world (not understanding anything that was happening but happy) and digimon world 3 (one of my all time favorite) when I was like 6, as a whole i prefer digimon over pokemon. I personally like the thought of having a friend with superpowers that I can bond with over the thought of basically an intelligent pet that has superpowers. I personally prefer dusk over dawn, but digimon ds is way better. but overall i think dusk/dawn are 6/10 games, ds is 8/10 though I think digimon cyber sleuth is the best overall digimon game. solid 9/10 There are multiple different anime for digimon, we have adventure released in 1999-2000, adventure 02 2000-2001. these two were set in the same world so to speak whereas all the rest are in their own worlds i think? Digimon tamers 2001-2002, Digimon Frontier 2002-2003, Digimon Data Squad 2006-2007, digimon fusion 2010-2012, digimon universe 2016-2017, a reboot of digimon adventure in 2020-2021, and currently digimon ghost game that started releasing in 2021 and is still i think. I like the digimon animes more then i like the pokemon, like the pokemon anime i have not seen all of, but for me it is overall a 4/10 with some highs but plenty of lows wheras most of the digimon animes are above 7/10 for me the first two digimon adventure and digimon adventure 02 are 8/10+ for me. But my favorite anime is probably Data Squad. The only thing i can say about jaidens video is she did start with a sequal game, would probably have been better to go with digimon ds, cause that explains things a bit more, wheras dusk and dawn are sequals to that soft sequals but sequals non the less.

[@austinotka7196]

You wrote 4 paragraphs about digimon that’s some dedication

[@Cybersomnia]

​@@austinotka7196 honestly that's nothing compared to most of us The original video has entire novels by digimon fans, I even dropped my entire autobiography in the comments

[@theduckgoesmoo]

This really explains a lot about her confusion and you as a person vik

[@connorwood9211]

- Yea. She definitely should had gone with Cyber Sleuth. Very story focused but mechanics similar enough to Pokemon. But honestly trying to get into Digimon through the games is just a bad idea. Unlike Pokemon which is primarily a game focused franchise Digimon was mainly anime focused that later went to multimedia. So probably should had watched either the 1st or 3rd season before. Digimon games also don't have a "style". Some a RPG's, some are virtual pets and some are visual novels. - What a Digimon actually is varies depending on the series or game. Sometimes they creatures evolved through data on the internet, sometimes they were created by humans, sometimes they come from another world and connected to humans through the internet - Also apparently Dusk and Dawn are sequels. So she really picked the wrong one - "Big Worm" is actually a sea dragon

[@TotallyCluelessGamer]

Pokemon is not a game focused franchise either. It is the largest merch franchise on the planet and the games are just an excuse to introduce new merch designs to consumers.

[@huyle-ob8rg]

@@TotallyCluelessGamer I'm pretty sure you mistaken pokemon for disney. The merch exist because of the games and anime, not the other way around.

[@TotallyCluelessGamer]

@@huyle-ob8rg no I haven't. The games were successful, and they spawned the merch and show. Which then proved to make WAY more profit than the games could ever dream of. Thus the games became a method by which to introduce new designs to the consumer-base. To quote one of the greatest parody movies of all time(and a man smarter than everyone who will ever have had anything to do with this comment): "Merchandising, merchandising, where the real money from the movie is made."

[@nickchivers9029]

​@@TotallyCluelessGamer youre missing the point, Pokemon is a game-focused franchise because thats what everything else flows from. It doesnt matter that games dont make as much money as the merch and anime and movies. Without the games, there is no new merch or anime or movie. Therefore, the main part of the business is the games. Digimon started as a virtual pet tamagochi and anime, the games are spinoffs, so the opposite of how the Pokemon franchise works.

[@Ardomew]

I've been a fan of Digimon ever since I was really young(used to watch the anime a ton, but never played the games until much later) so seeing Jaiden nosedive into this series was... quite a treat!

[@ligtningdog6399]

2:57 "Never played a Sonic Game" Two words: "Sonic" "Mania"

[@smugsneasel]

01:31 *Jaiden says she doesn't know anything about digimon the same time Duck does*. Duck's Mind: Suddenly!~ Life has new meaning to me, there's beauty up above and things we never take notice of, you wake up suddenly you're in love. 02:42 Not counting the base Tamagotchi-esque games, mobile games, Japanese only games, and remakes, there are approximately 23 digimon games. 02:58 Still don't understand why, given your obsession with speed. 04:10 Hey! Cybersleuth is a great game and a great name! Don't you be dissing mah CyberSleuth! 04:38 No it's just named that way. I don't see the issue with this one either? I mean, if you think about it, without context, what kinda of stupid name is Pokemon Red and Blue? And you can continue that thread up till now with Scarlet and Violet. 06:32 Barely anyone really cares about giving Digimon nicknames. Even the ones I was particularly attached to in CyberSleuth didn't get any. Maybe it's subconsciously because they can talk for themselves. 07:06 Yes. They are DIGITAL MONSTERS after all. Just like pokemon are pocket monsters. 08:56 Hey, Castelia City is cool!...A bit daunting at first, but cool! Plus in Gen 6 they make it objectively worse with Lumiouse City. Just you wait. 09:00 So this is partially untrue. In her abridged playthrough that she posted, Jaiden actually finds out that you can scan the entire sub-area you're in beforehand. She just didn't process that info when the tutorial told her about it. Worse, she found out near end-game. So it didn't really help all that much. 09:11 No not unfinished, just with an entirely different design philosophy...a really stupid one. 10:28 B.B Studios as they're now called, primarily does anime games. Most of them, Japanese Only. 12:20 It's not that confusing alright? I mean, it's a little bit long, yes, but it's not confusing! 14:11 Oh hey, that's my brain 85% of the day. 15:31 WHAT THE?!! What do you MEAN "Was there a Digimon show?"!? Digimon has multiple! One is going on RIGHT NOW! It's called Digimon Ghost Game! It has 51 episodes as of now!

[@theduckgoesmoo]

My thing with speed is being fast relative to everything else. If every character is fast then none of them are fast

[@theonewhoismany8072]

Was there a Digimon show? *Ahem* The Digimon Movie Digimon Adventure 01 Digimon Adventure 02( and the 4 movies tied to it Our War Game, The Golden Digimentals, Tri,Kizuna) Digimon Tamers( and the 2 movies Battle of Adventures and Runaway Locomon) Digimon Frontier( and the Island of Lost Digimon Movie) Digimon Savers( and the Ultimate Power Activate Burst Mode movie) Digimon Xross Wars and Xross Wars the Young Hunters who Leapt through time Digimon Universe App Monsters The Digimon Adventure Reboot Digimon Ghost Game that is running right now The Digimon X Evolution movie.

[@joshtaylor2844]

@@theonewhoismany8072 Dont forget Adventure Tri, Last evoultion Kizuna, and now Seekers! Kizuna made me cry like a bitch at age 30!

[@KingKuron_]

It hurt so much seeing Jaiden describe Digimon World Dawn because, as someone who jumped into that game after starting with its predecessor Digimon World DS, it's still just as confusing and not fun. Cyber Sleuth and Hacker's Memory are the latest Digimon Story releases and they're honestly really good.

[@PissedGrunty]

Personally, I'm a bigger Digimon fan than Pokemon fan, but its mostly the anime. Digimon has more cohesive stories and plots and the evolutions are far more varied compared to the Pokemon "more aging than evolution" thing. I mean, its perfectly natural for a dog to become a cat, to become an angel, to become a dragon, right? I've only played the Cyber Sleuth games and Digimon Survive. The Digimon World games didn't really appeal to me and most of the rest were on handhelds I never owned. From what I've seen though, Digimon games vary drastically from game to game.

[@duduteixeira7736]

I did play the second Digimon Cyber Sleuth game and it is really good. It does have a map, is not confusing where you can go and does have a repel or force encounter option (which helps to keep griding for exp). Some of the special moves animation make references or recreate a scene from the anime where the attack was use

[@BlackdragonTheShadow]

And don’t forget how awesome the boss themes were.. especially the Royal Knights…

[@lil_Maccao]

​@@BlackdragonTheShadowthe royal knights theme is amazing.

[@nireus2299]

as someone who did the same thig recently(but playing cybersleuth which is waaaay better) i have this tip for anyone wanting to try digimon:SAVE YOUR GAME its not like pokemon and you will lose your progress if you dont save and lose a battle

[@AshtonMonitor]

Yep. Most people don’t realize: these Digimon WILL kill the player offscreen if you lose. You’re fighting for your survival, not for fun like in Pokémon.

[@AnimatedDude420]

As a digimon fan, I got to say that the show is way more better than any of the games, even if they end up making an actual good game

[@BlahBlahWoofWoof12]

When trying to get into Digimon you gotta go with the show, which just so happens to be on Hulu

[@8shadowfang]

Funny thing is Dawn and Dusk were my favorite Digimon games I've played. Maybe it's because I watch the animes and played other Nintendo Digimon games, but I remember as a little kid Dawn was an easy game to understand and not that hard beat.

[@dragoncatoverload]

They’re not hard if you don’t go in blind. Another video pointed out that Jaiden should have started with Digimon World Ds because it has the tutorial which, Dawn and Dusk didn’t feel the need to repeat.

[@YellowOtaku01]

As someone who plays and enjoys both Pokemon and Digimon, I can understand how both series are vastly different. There's a lot of things that Digimon has done so it's hard to pinpoint which series is good for beginners. I know the Digimon Story RPG series (World DS, Dawn, Dusk, Cyber sleuth, etc) are the usual recommendations for beginners but honestly, it's mostly up to personal preference and experimenting with some of these games before sticking to one you like. Personally, I love Cyber sleuth since it's less complicated in maps and the characters are great, intrigued by Digimon Survive's story and direction, remembered the mazes of the DS games (and some grinding) , gotten a bit frustrated with World Championship and Next Order (revenge playthrough one of these days) and had fun nostalgia for Digimon Spirits 1 and Digimon Racing for the GBA.

[@BlackdragonTheShadow]

Surprised that no one mentioned this but uhhh the. Battle themes of Cybersluth and Hackers Memories are BANGERS(especially the Royal Knights theme which is good as dear god Dynastymon is a 50/50 coin toss of either being a cakewalk or the most difficult boss fight with the ability to self heal since Wittny and her Milktank)

[@Misto_deVito6009]

Man she went through so much just for us AND to expand her open mind. Its nuts!

[@scarletrose8766]

I mean at least she hasnt given up hope even if she did start with a game that trying out digimon games shouldnt be playing as thier entry point unless you have the patience of a saint.

[@StarryJewel]

It's interesting to see people who only played one series. I played both growing up, but over time, I started gravitating towards Pokemon. Though, I DO love Digimon World DS, and I still like the older games

[@ligtningdog6399]

Digimon is best as in anime, as most of the games were made by Bandai (pre-Namco merger), who were C-tier game developers. In the recent years Bandai-Namco had made better digimon games. Namely, Cyber Sleuth, Next Order, Re-Digitized, Adventure (PSP) and Survive. Cyber Sleuth is pretty much the best for Pokemon fans to get into, but it's NOT a pokemon clone. There is deep story that has you traveling the same handful of locations. No traveling to the world to be the "Best there ever was". On the plus side, you can customize your digimon funny hats; the battles have actual animation; Digimon that are kept in the box can make items for you; and you have crazy storylines like watching a anime-girl drop kick a wizard in the face.

[@Bardic_Knowledge]

It is important to note that she actually picked one of the worst games she could have to start off with. Cyber Sleuth would have been a good one. The original Digimon World DS (also called Digimon Story), as well. But, ultimately, the games are not the best way to experience Digimon in the first place. That would be the shows. Because Pokemon may have really good games, Digimon has, in my opinion, the better show.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

It kinda sucks how little information there is though like she did all of that digging and none of it told her it was a sequel game

[@MarcMagma]

I grew up loving both Pokémon and Digimon. I think Pokémon makes the better games but Digimon makes the better anime (not to say the Pokémon anime wasn't good, in fact I still love rewatching the Gen 3 and 4 villain-episodes as well as the movies, (I only watched up to Gen 5 so I can't comment on the current state of the anime)). In terms of manga, I think they're equal.

[@rdraken]

Honestly personal opinion... Pokemon > digimon in games. BUT digimon > pokemon in shows.

[@KOAndros]

Yes Digimon does have an anime but the seasons have different protagonists and Digimon, with a few different Digi-evolution gimmicks. They’ve recently released a new Digimon season in Japan a year ago called Ghost Games.

[@melissamurray8307]

As a Digimon, it makes me happy to see Pokémon fans giving it a chance.

[@AlbionOfAvalon55]

for a digimon fans dawn is ok if you know all digimons and have a specific mega digimon to use in your team but to those starting out i think it will be hell to start with that game.... the game that best represent digimon would be the psp game called Digimon Adventure which is only sold in japan and you have to download the english patch to read the text and this game is base on the anime itself

[@TheErsu]

I played some Digimon games. It was the DS era and I just got what was in HMW or EB Games. That purple head has a funny voice. The games had problems, but it was fun making my favorite digimon.

[@infiniteoctopaw]

In our defense, Digimon isn't a video game first franchise. What she did was the equivalent of trying to get into the His Dark Material books by play the Wii adoption video game off the 2007 Golden Compass movie. This was a painful experience. Glad she is a enjoyer of cool monsters. She has fantastic taste. Also literally all the best games are japan only.

[@ligtningdog6399]

*What is a Digimon?* Monsters that come the the Digital World. *What is the Digital World?* A parallel dimension that connected to the Human World via computer network systems. The Digital World is much older then the internet itself and the digimon potentially predates the humanity itself. *What makes a Digimon different from a Pokemon?* Pokemon can't talk and are limited to 3 evolutionary stages on a liner path. Pokemon can't de-evolve to earlier stage. Digimon can talk and have roughly 6 evolutionary stages on branching paths. Digimon can, under special conditions, skip to a later stage for a short time. Usually, if a Digimon dies, they can be reborn, but usually with little to no memories of their former selves.

[@calebgoodman3028]

You know I have been thinking you should add Digimon as an anime reaction at some point. Preferably subbed. Digimon Tamers is a personal favorite of mine.

[@SebasTian58323]

I haven't played or watched any Digimon content, I've only played a little bit of two Pokemon games and seen a few episodes of the anime, but I can say I like both in terms of design

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Why haven’t you played a Pokémon game fully yet?

[@SebasTian58323]

@@theduckgoesmoo one of the games was Pokemon Colosseum for the GameCube, but I didn't have a memory card for it and would only be able to play it until the GameCube overheated and shut off, and I'd have to restart everytime. The other was Pokemon FireRed I played on the Gameboy advanced, and I never finished it because I lost it.

[@arkthegreenwolfx3627]

You honestly should consider playing Digimon, specifically the Cyber sleuth games, or watching the anime. However I would say the anime because there's an old saying; "Pokemon makes better games, Digimon makes better anime" and it's true for a reason. so alright, here's how Digimon evolution works .. besides the fact that it makes no sense but hey they're data sooo So here's how the stages works; they start as an Egg, otherwise called Digitama, most of the time, although depending on the continuity, when a Digimon dies they go back to being an egg. Next when they hatch they are considered Baby, the weakest form of the Digimon, often resembling just a small little blob with eyes and maybe a mouth. The first evolution is In-training, these forms are also relatively weak but unlike Baby they can actually still do things, and overall look more developed. The next evolution and often the form a Digimon takes most of the time when they are your partner is rookie. Think of this as the same deal of like a starter pokemon or so, or your route 1 pokemon, they are definitely stronger than most humans, and unlike Babys and In-trainings they are ready for combat. The 4th stage of evolution is Champion, the strength of Champions can vary but for reference these are relatively the strength of say fully evolved starters, but again it varies. These are often the forms partner Digimon take when they want to get serious to protect you but aren't exactly strong enough to evolve further yet. The 5th stage is Ultimate, this is where we get STRONG, ultimates are powerful, and are way stronger than even most champions, heck this WAS the final form for a while during digimons beginning in the 90s, so for a while, this was top of the top. The next stage is Mega, and this is technically the final form now, though there are stages after this that I'll get into. Mega Digimon are the strongest of the strong (normally), they are the peak of evolution for the most part and are probably strong enough to contend with most early Dragon Ball Z characters. If a mega evolves again, most of the time it's still classified as a mega, BUT, if a Digimon evolution got to a power so intense, then that would be considered Ultra. Ultras are Digimon that basically can't be defeated except by another Ultra, if Mega is the peak of evolution then this is going beyond the capacity of whats considered normal. It's a very rare state to reach so goodluck getting your own Digimon to reach. There are other forms of evolution than the normal get stronger to evolve, like Jogress (DNA digivolution in English) where two Digimon splice themself together to create a new Digimon that has the best parts of them. There's armor Digivolving where by using a special egg shaped totem called a digimental, a Digimon can armor up with it. There's biomerging where the Tamer (Digimon trainer) fuses with their Digimon to become powerful. DigiXros (pronounced Cross) is basically taking one base Digimon and than fusing other Digimon to it like armor and weapons making it stronger. And X-antibody which all I can is the Digimon equivalent the mega evolution Essentially. And there are many more examples but those are the ones that come to mind the most. Hope you know a little bit more about the world of this fandom.

[@KrystianZieba-kc8tx]

EVERY Digimon game is different, Jaiden ironically chose the worst one. Like even its counterpart "dusk" is better because dusk at least has a tutorial! As she said, she really should have gone for cyber sleuth since that one is actually good, or its sequel "hacker's memory" or even freaking Digimon survive! She literally chose... THE WORST GAME in this franchise...

[@katomamundara8106]

The Fusion one is generally hated the most, but hey, 2nd worst counts.

[@KrystianZieba-kc8tx]

@@katomamundara8106 Nah, even fusion is better objectively.

[@huyle-ob8rg]

@@KrystianZieba-kc8tx The new fusion, not the classic fusion like omnimon/omegamon, Imperialdramon

[@shadowcell1184]

Digimon games are Pokemon esc Dark souls maze games but with no real information on what is going on they tend to expect that you have watched the anime and have played the previous games. but I do recommend S1 & S2 of the anime and the movie.

[@darkdirectorproductions9940]

I’ve only ever seen the shows, I didn’t know there were games I saw a total of 3 of the Digimon animes, and I haven’t seen them in years so my memory is a bit fuzzy. But I can say that the shows weren’t bad, they worked on more of a Trapped in a fantasy world type of thing. Check them out, from what I can recall they were pretty great.

[@ericb9252]

This video doesn't do Digimon justice. The games aren't particularly amazing, but the anime was amazing. The first 2 seasons are honestly better than any season of the Pokémon anime. It's got heart, comedy, emotion, depth. I can't recommend Adventures 1 and 2 enough. KZbinr Billiam has done deep dives on different seasons and when you eventually watch Nostalgia Critic's review of Fox Kids (which I'll keep suggesting every Monday till you do lol) they briefly go over Adventure 01

[@arkthegreenwolfx3627]

Not to mention Tamers being arguably the best one, and probably my personal favorite

[@ericb9252]

@@arkthegreenwolfx3627 I didn't care for Tamers. Didn't hate it, but I definitely prefer Adventures 01 and 02

[@theonewhoismany8072]

@@ericb9252 yeah the overmilked adventure 😒

[@ericb9252]

​@@theonewhoismany8072 Tamers just wasn't as fun

[@renji90998]

the only Digimon game I played was both versions of Digimon World: Dawn and Dusk on Nintendo 3DS. It was a solid game but some of the mechanics were similar to Pokémon.

[@Bezaliel13]

Have to love the variety in those World games alone. They might have been better choices than this sequel to World DS.

[@crcoghill]

The mind set I've always had for as long as I've been a Pokemon & Digimon fan is: The games for Pokemon are much more engaging and fun compared to Digimon's But! I find Digimon's anime and movies more interesting than Pokemon since Digimon is more focused on the world and main leads and evolving them over time. Not to say Ash doesn't get developed but it's not as grand as say Tai or Matt growing to be leaders, maturing and not growing apart from friends and family. I love both, though one more over the other, but this is just my thoughts on the matter.

[@adam-dn3hi]

honestly she could have just playd digimon adventure for the psp its literaly just the first season of the anime with extra content in the end if you want to get into digimon that will be the best possible start

[@DPMAN_ASMR]

I remember Playing Digimon World Something or other when I was Younger and didn't quite understand any games then lol, But The First Digimon Game I did Play once I was able to Understand Games was Dawn, and I never Beat it lol, I Did Have Fun cuz In the Digimon Games Unlike Pokemon you can Devolve your Mons and Evolve them into other Forms which I always found to be great. Never Knew That Dawn Was a Sequel until Seeing people say it on Jaidens Video. I Have Played Cyber Sleuth (also not to Completion, But it is a Solid Game and A Whole lot less confusing. There Have Also Been some Pokemon Rom Hacks That Have Digimon in it That I have Played which were Fun I would Say That The Digimon Games Compared to Pokemon are usually Meh Except Cyber Sleuth Which I think Is On Par With Coliseum and XD. The Digimon Show Compared to the Pokemon Show However Is Overall Better, Character Development, Actual Overarching Villains, Even FistFights Between Main Characters or Humans Fighting Digimon On Their own in Some Scenarios, And Here Is A big one DEATH, Things Can Actually Die In Digimon, Unlike Pokemon where I think there is only One Instance of Death and that was a Movie. The Biggest Thing I Like About Digimon as a Whole is that they arent Just some replacement for regular Animals Like Pokemon, They are Legitimately from another World, That Is Why So Many Of The Games Say Digimon World xyz, And Things That Happen In That World Can Affect The Human World, And a very Big Thing, Humans And Digimon Both Can Go between Both World If They Know How, Which allows many cool storylines to Occur, Anyways I wrote a wall of text So I will Stop Here lol

[@greenrevolver30]

Digimon. Digital monsters. Digimon are the champions! I loved S1&2. I think I tried one the games. Couldn’t figure it out, quit.

[@paperfox19]

a friend of mine informed me dawn version didn't have the intro or tutorial on what digimon are but dusk version does, so jaiden played the wrong version lol

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Oh my lord

[@haku8135]

Meanwhile if you're new to Pokemon and ask "what's a pokemon game to start?" You can really just pick any game with Pokemon in the title and you're more likely than not going to enjoy yourself. They may tend towards being repetitive, but that's because they did things well the first time. You know watching this video, the footage of the game, really made me nostalgic for the Megaman Battle Network games. Man, those were some GOOD games, I adored them growing up. Anime was my jam too. And now I'm just angry Nintendo seems to have totally forgotten those games ever existed, cause you can't get them ANYWHERE official.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

You can pick up a pokemon game and play it without any knowledge though

[@haku8135]

@@theduckgoesmoo Also true.

[@LordHypertronUniversum]

I watch Classic Digimon Anime, since i was a kid and it was great. But i never heard of Digimon games til "Digimon: Cyber Sleuth" came out in 2015, and the lastes "Digimon Survive" in 2022. And aparetlt Digimon Games were made since 1998, and now we have 59 of them. So the fact i only know 2 out of 59 before Jaidens video, shows how much disrespect franchise got for no reason. And comparing to Sonic games is quite accurate.

[@Heaven0854]

Cyber sleuth is definitely the best digimon game it came out on the PS4 PC and switch. It's really good. It's like a mix of persona and pokemon

[@adam-dn3hi]

yeah a bit late to mention this is a sequal game to the sequal game the game isnt going to explain things that were already explained this is a continuation of a story not a reset hence why there is 0 knowledge given to you in the game

[@michaelmunns]

I used to play digimon world dusk the counterpart to the game she played and loved it

[@hermannmakuta3311]

8:15 - Thats by the way a Meme from Attack on Titan Someone will look at Armin that Way

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

I have never played this game, but the other one that the fandom was pushing was Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth, which I have played, and it was great. It was leagues better than what this game seemed to be. So I firmly believe that she got trolled and got tricked into playing a game that sucks.

[@SilverHairedFreak25]

A good way to compare Pokemon to Digimon is this: Pokemon is solid, Digimon is fluid. To further explain: Pokemon is solid. Evolutions are one-way and are generally linear, with only a few exceptions of branching pathways. Pokemon's story is tight, solid, and easy to follow. It generally follows only one timeline unless we're talking spinoffs, but even those generally tend to stick to the established rules of the Pokemon canon. ...Digimon, on the other hand, is fluid. Digivolution can branch out wildly, with near infinite possibilities based on stimuli, method, health, etc. Digimo has no solid canon, only a few basic ideas used loosely by numerous continuity families. In as broad terms as possible, Digimon are exactly that, Digital Monsters. They live in a parallel dimension made of information known as the Digital World. Digimon can form bonds with humans and use that to grow stronger, either positively or negatively depending on their partner. Unfortunately, that's where the details tend to differ depending on what anime/manga/game you're interacting with. Does that sound confusing? That's only because it is. I'm friends with hardcore Digimon fans, and even _they_ have trouble keeping up with everything. ..But despite all that, it's still a fun experience. I do recommend you try Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth and its sequel one day, because it's an unironically good game.

[@frea2191]

Over the years Pokemon games have become so much worse, but even as the buggy messes they are today, they are stil better than any Digimon game ive ever played. I loved the anime, but these games... its like the developers enjoy tormenting their customers.

[@Richiedoesmc]

Funny enough leaving the nicknames blank gives them their species name.

[@Black_ReaperKai]

I actually played Digimon World DS and Dusk and Dawn All the Digimon Worlds also Cyber Sleuth both of them and Digimon Survive I actually loved every single one of them i did beat dusk and dawn and i never had a problem 😂

[@Lightmagician60]

Fun fact: Digimon came out 2 years after pokemon, but not to compete with it. it was made in response to Tamagotchi the animes have been ok to good. with a few out lyers. Digixros and Appmon are quite bad the video games range from bad to meh. almost all of them will nail gameplay, but then either water it down with a story that even itself don't care. or tie the story into the gameplay in a way that holds it back the lore is vague, and often conflicting, almost like the fandom cares more about it then the writers. we don't question Digimon Evos a puppy > a Cat > Angel > Dragon is a real cannon Evo line

[@bubbykins4864]

Actually, the first Digimon V-pet was only 1 year after Red and Green, but 1 year before Red and Blue.

[@morphingninja]

Jaiden's Sub-a-thon is still going... About 307 hours in and currently 62 hrs left. (Seeing as it started the 17th, the math seems weird, but I don't know how these work enough to really comment beyond saying that's over 12 days of hours and it's been about 23 since it started) Just peeked in and chat is playing Pokemon Emerald while she sleeps, looks like they just got to the gym with the Ice Puzzle.... (That's going to take a while...)

[@TotallyCluelessGamer]

Digimon World Dawn and Dusk are made for oldschool JRPG fans and Jaiden is basically not that. Basically no Pokemon fan is actually like that. Digimon lost the battle against Pokemon in the general child audience so they pivoted basically immediately to appeal to fans who prefer the more in-depth raising mechanics. Also the reason she beat the first boss thing when nobody else could: Basically everyone else's Digimon degenerated all the way into eggs so they couldn't actually fight back. Meanwhile she has 2 Digi-Babies and one Lv.20. For the story being simple... that's really not the point of the game. The point is wandering around training your Digimon up while decking out your Digi-Farm.

[@nahte123456]

So like people said Dawn/Dusk are NOT how you start Digimon, that was just an abject failure. Digimon games are always new, very few games play the same at all, and are rarely related to the anime, manga, or other media. But beyond that I LOVE Dusk, however it's all planning and grinding for the satisfaction of it all working for you. And that works if you're into that, I still remember my main team from over a decade ago, but it's NOT Pokemon, it is NOT easy, and is NOT going to work with you, you work with it. Digimon is great in so many ways, the anime, the card game, and yes the video games, but it's not Pokemon in any world. You can not approach it in that way.

[@tadeolaguarda6965]

In my opinion the best way to enter the digimon franchise is by waching one of it's many anime, "digimon Tamers" is the best one, but any other could be good to start whit(except for "Simón adventure tri", "digimon adventure 2020" and "digimon universe", those three are so bad they are almost unwachable, even dragon Ball super looks like a master piece in contrast) I've only played one digimon game, wich was Hackers memory's and it was prety good, nothing like the one Jaiden played. 7:07 it depends on the universe, somethimes they are virtual creatures created by humans that developed on their own until they became digimons and somethimes they are creatures from a diferent dimension wich became conected to the human dimension trough technology. 7:21 all digimons hatch from digieggs, and in most cases, when a digimon dies, the remanente of their data become a digiegg from wich a new digimon can be born

[@RippahRooJizah]

Universe is a side thing, and I wouldn't recommend it to start. Adventure 2020 is pretty good. Adventure tri is fine but I also wouldn't recommend it as a start.

[@Zac-wb7hu]

The answer for digimon is cyber sleuth and hackers memory, the rest of the games depend on how much suffering you can put up with

[@SCP.343]

The first two seasons of the anime and the Tri series are all you need.

[@calebgoodman3028]

I prefer Digimon Tamers in all honesty. The cerebral tone of that series was pretty great.

[@theonewhoismany8072]

Yeah cause Digimon is all about the overly milked Adventure.

[@SCP.343]

@@theonewhoismany8072 okay, now you're confusing it with Pokèmon. Digimon has character development.

[@theonewhoismany8072]

@@SCP.343 The Digimon franchise is in the state it's in because they can't stop milking Adventure even tho they have so much material to do a lot more stories. Something about the Olympos XII and the Iliad server maybe? Something about Witchelny or the 3rd Digital World? An anime with Ragnalordmon fighting againt Voltbautamon? There are soooo many posibilities. But fucking NOPE. Let's just milk Adventure and the Royal Knights like no one's business.

[@ericb9252]

​@@calebgoodman3028 Tamers was bad

[@ch33les99]

You doing the newest Death Battle?

[@SpiritOfSpite]

I've used the same comment 3 times now so here's the abridged version: I beat it when I was 8, the mazes are easy-peasy, GIT GUD SCRUBLORDS!

[@DemonVermin]

So as an avid Digimon fan… I agree with what she says… but the game she chose was awful for beginners of the SERIES. 1) It’s a sequel… it assumes you played the original Digimon World DS, so doesn’t bother with tutorials. 2) It’s a game primarily focused on collecting and building your favorite digimon. The story and the main game is really not the meat of it, but she went in there thinking it was supposed to have a good one. She did none of the side stuff and as a result was underpowered. She came into the series with a very pokemon mind and that was bad… 3) She chose a super old game from an era where grinding was expected since a normal household couldn’t really splurge on 40 dollar games often, so back then a game was supposed to last you months if not a year.

[@Darkorinth1]

I am not an expert by any means, but my understanding is Digimon is the opposite of Pokemon. In Pokemon you can play the games and pretty much ignore the anime as the games are the main thing, Digimon however the main thing is the anime and the games are almost superfluous. So diving into Digimon by starting with a game is almost like diving into My Hero Academia by starting with the My Hero Onels Justice game. For the record I have seen one whole season of the anime (season 3 and it was awesome!), seen smarting of other stuff, and played zero games.

[@Degdreams]

By the way, Digimon is awesome. You should give it a chance. If I had to recommend a game I'd say Cyber Sleuth. And yes the name makes sense, you're literally a digital private detective. It's a grade A 60 + hours game.

[@DavCube]

I'll say what I said on Jaiden's video: Pokemon and Digimon are two sides of the same coin. Pokemon has the better games and mixed anime. Digimon has the mixed games and the better anime. Simple as.

[@easyscout8369]

I heard Survive was actually a pretty fun game it's just for certain people. And by that I mean people who like Phoenix Wright or DDLC ect type of games. You know. INCREDIBLY story based. I don't remember what the genre is called

[@ligtningdog6399]

The genre is "Visual Novel". And yeah, Survive is a good game for what it is, but being a VN is huge barrier for most people.

[@easyscout8369]

@@ligtningdog6399 Ah thanks

[@lunaholdaway9999]

You should react to "I did a thing" s video "I made the world's most powerful hammer"

[@alexlangton9339]

The latest death battle is out

[@TheDigimonGuy]

Alright now as the name might suggest I love digimon but this game also hurt me when I played it but Cyber Sleuth is a 10/10.

[@ConnorSinclairCavin]

Actually snakes did evolve from lizards, not the other way around.

[@anyathepanther7977]

Even though Jaiden never watched or played Digimon before, she must be aware of some Meme's. Becouse Leomon! My first Game was Cyber Sleuth and it's really simple and straight forward. (Althoug i am currently stuck at one of the Memory riddles)

[@theduckgoesmoo]

I have no idea what that even is

[@anyathepanther7977]

@@theduckgoesmoo Leomon dies in every Anime season of Digimon. When Jaiden knocks him over, he is reading a book titeld "How to survive"

[@theonewhoismany8072]

@@theduckgoesmoo Basically if you see a Leomon in a game,manga or especially anime don't get too attached. That thing is going to die 99% of the time. The only time he didn't is in the Adventure reboot

[@ericb9252]

​​@@theduckgoesmoo Leomon is a big, sexy lion with abs, pants and a dagger who dies every season

[@brandonwong8614]

So I agree with a bit of her points, like the mazes which for the most part aren't bad, except for the water related ones like Loot swamp, And Macro Sea, especially MACRO SEA because if you get lost not only are you probably starting from the beginning but worst case scenario you are in a different part of the world. Ughhhh, it's the worst maze one I'll say in that game

[@BlazingFire12]

I had Digimon world dawn as a kid I don't remember it being this bad

[@OctoDADDY.]

Just watch digimon, it's a infinitely better experience as a show than a game.

[@MrSoulbucket]

i was always a fan of digimon world 1

[@ConnorSinclairCavin]

Start with the Digimon movie probably… then the original anime, or manga if you are reader and have… a Lot of time…. As for games, the one they mentioned that was tamagachi like was probably the best one, sadly their game department sucks for a show supposedly about monsters that came to life out of a dimension built from code that evolved dimension stepping level AI…

[@tomprestengaming996]

I played Digimon Dawn and Digimon dusk and Digimon World DS. parents wouldn't let me play Pokemon.

[@axelnpb]

this one reminds me of a friend that bought cybersleuth because he misread and hes a furry sooo he thought he bought Digimon cybersluts

[@doubleexia8375]

Love both franchises. But you can't make fun of or judge the names of Digimon games when the only thing you're used to as a Pokémon fan is the word "Pokémon" followed by a color.

[@YukoValis]

Sadly she picked what is technically a sequel to the much better Digimon DS. The first actually explains a bunch of things.

[@BJGvideos]

Everyone in the comments talking up Cyber Sleuth--HOW? That game is a MASSIVE slog! Almost all the missions are "go find my missing item in the same three levels of the same dungeon every single time and no you can't accept more than one mission at a time you have to find each item on its own" over and over again. The dialogue thinks it's deep but it's like listening to a very dry philosophy lecture. I like philosophy in my vidya games, but I like it to be woven into the story and world, not droned at me in a text dump! Also there was a really uncomfortable vibe about the mission you do for the guy in the fashion district where he's like "oh my the way I'm gay" and that's it (as far as I've gotten this information has not gone anywhere and just exists and my character was visibly unnerved by it and I'm not sure if that's supposed to be a homophobic reaction or just a reaction to being told something so unnecessary so bluntly). Also the evolution qualifications for your mons are arcane bullshit half the time. I have one, who's literally just a nun, not even like an animal in a nun habit but stg a straight up human woman, who it says evolves at level 61, but the most I can raise her to is 30! It won't let them gain any more experience after that so you have to finagle a way to evolve them into something else, then de-evolve them, then get them to what you want them to be. I need a spreadsheet for this! Also even though the mons talk, there is NO emphasis on them as characters. There are some that get plot and story and characterization, but those aren't the ones that join your party. They're basically faceless conscripts rather than characters, which is a far cry from the show, where they were treated as full personalities. Anyway I suggest, if you watch the show (which I highly recommend), you start with Digimon Tamers, the third season. Now, starting at the third season may sound weird, but it's a standalone story (seasons 1 and 2 lead directly into each other). Tamers is probably the most solid overall season and good introduction to things (my favorite, Frontier, doesn't really represent the rest if the franchise since in Frontier they don't have partner digimon). Tamers also demonstrates just how off the wall and utterly distant from what you THINK will happen the show can get. Also it was written by the same guy who wrote Serial Experiments Lain. I know that's going to mean nothing to you but it was a really trippy and psychological series.

[@DemonVermin]

Cause Cyber Sleuth would be an easy game for a Pokemon fan to get into.

[@BJGvideos]

@@DemonVermin Would it? It's way more SMT than Pokémon. Like, half my channel is Pokémon. I'm quite familiar with that franchise. But Cyber Sleuth doesn't compare AND it's a massive slog for the reasons I said above.

[@huyle-ob8rg]

@@BJGvideos It's the closest thing pokemon fans can related to, even if it's more smt than pokemon, it's still more pokemon than other digimon games. Either this game, or worse version of that, or even more worse version of the previous one, or a completely different game but arguably better or worse than the previous one. It's basically "pick your poisons", good in digimon standards, but mediocre at best overall.

[@risuwolf]

I always watch JaidenAnimations with my mom and like pretty much as soon as the video started I told her there aren't any good Digimon games, which I don't even know personally, I've just heard that. And it turns out I was completely right! Also I think you should react to the Nostalgic Critic's review of Digimon The Movie. It's a really old video but he also knew absolutely nothing about Digimon and the anime, in my opinion, is way better than the games but I also have a lot of nostalgia for it 😅

[@calebgoodman3028]

“No good Digimon games” is actually wrong. Each group of games have their own thing going. For example I have seen many say that Cyber Sleuth is better than Gen 8 Pokémon (kind of agree on that) with a method of collecting and customizing how Digimon grow that Pokémon simply doesn’t have. You know how Eevee can evolve into many Pokémon? It’s like that but with any Digimon and you can go back to a previous form and go another route if you aren’t in the mood to grind. On the flip side I have seen many ignore Digimon Survive because it’s a visual novel with gameplay segments. Which isn’t a problem to me as some of my favorite games are visual novels. Some with gameplay like Danganronpa and some without gameplay like Tsukihime, Fate, Higurashi and Umineko. However some were unnecessarily mad about it and just wanted to get to the gameplay segments ignoring the story.

[@LordlyWeeb]

All she had to do was play the Cyber Sleuth games, those are great. And they're not like Persona 5. She made it complicated

[@Nexter-Lie]

Dude the comments on your videos are sometimes good, but most of the time they're always "Dude, did you know this is a video on youtube?"

[@theduckgoesmoo]

There’s a lot of everything

[@adog733]

She should have played Digimon World 3 or Digimon Survive. World 3 is the closest thing to Pokémon the franchise has ever done and Digimon Survive is a retelling of the first Digimon anime where we're introduced to what a Digimon is.

[@calebgoodman3028]

Digimon Survive is most certainly *not* that. Perhaps you’re confusing that game with another? Digimon Survive is a visual novel with an entirely different cast and story where characters can die.

[@adog733]

@@calebgoodman3028 I know that I'm talking about how similar it is to Digimon Adventure and how most of the main cast share traits similar to the Digidestined. Takuma is Tai, the goggle-wearing leader with Agumon as his partner, and gets briefly sent back to the human world. Minoru looks like Izzy but acts like Davis from 02. Aoi is Sora, the team mom though it takes her time to embrace that role. Ryo is Ken, having a bug-type Digimon, and his trauma leading him down a "dark path." Saki is Mimi, right down to having a plant Digimon. Shuji is Joe, the oldest of the group, and trying to take responsibility for the younger kids. And Kaito and Miu are Matt and T.K. respectively. Kaito trying to act like he cares for nobody but his sister and is even more overprotective. Though Miu isn't much of a crybaby and has bits of Mimi in her. Like when she became "Queen" of a bunch of weak Digimon. I wouldn't even call it a horror game. It's just the possibility of death is a thing now, making it the darkest game in the franchise.

[@calebgoodman3028]

@@adog733 Okay. I see what you mean now. Though aren’t those traits common for many Digimon series? It’s not just a thing in Digimon Adventures. Though I will admit Adventures definitely seems to be the biggest inspiration out of all of them in terms of characters.

[@animemonsterx]

the problem i got with this video Jaiden made, is that she choose quite possibly the least newcomer friendly digimon game, if she had chosen cyber sleuth she would've liked it much more, that game is for very veteran fans, and it's kind of a bad game

[@xenamorphwinner7931]

10:32 Do you want to know who these guys are. Praying to toasters and Honda Civic INTENSIFIES.

[@xenamorphwinner7931]

Hint: It's not from digimon

[@calebgoodman3028]

The biggest problem with this video that many have pointed out is the fact Jaiden started with a sequel in a pair meant specifically for returning players. She should’ve went with Cyber Sleuth when she got the chance since it’s a fan favorite made for newcomers in the franchise and had mechanics that put Gen 8 Pokémon to shame for me. I can’t outright say I dislike this video as again she knew nothing but this isn’t really my favorite by any means.

[@johanstenfelt1206]

I highly recommend to do JaidenAnimations The Anime.

[@nox6687]

The original Digimon World DS is better kind of, Dusk and Dawn are sequels to it, which is why the plot seems a bit off. But Cyber Sleuth is definitely the best I feel

[@oliviahughes3158]

Digimon Cyber Sleuth is a good Digimon Game

[@imabirdo]

Yeah, all digimon rpg games suffer from old Japanese rpg syndrome they don't spoon-feed you anything, so you are on your own for everything with convoluted gimmicks and mechanics... all things considered Digimon World Dawn/Dusk is a decent game it's just old. The PlayStation 1 Digimon card game is pretty good thought.

[@hextraordinaire2347]

Digimon is a masochist's wet dream