This is getting TOO REALISTIC | The Flight Simulator 2024 737 MAX FIRST CRASH | Real (ex) 737 Pilot

[@A330Driver]

I'm really not sure what to think of this.... the A330 and A400M are absolutely great, but the 737MAX totally sucks. Did they try to parody the real MAX disaster? I'm speechless...

[@XavierLignieres]

Well the A400 and A330 are by inibuilds so that would explain the good systems in those I guess

[@A330Driver]

@@XavierLignieres True, but I would expect Asobo to ensure a certain minimum standard across all their fleets. Perhabs not iniBuilds level, but at least around the old Aircraft & Avionics Updated 747/787 or so...

[@XavierLignieres]

@@A330Driver OMG I had not seen the whole video yet when I commented you were MCAS'd by the thing literally and I was here expecting some thing like the latinvfr a340 or some other bug but not that.....

[@A330Driver]

@@XavierLignieres yep... this is just totally unacceptable. Server issues okay, but THIS is not a server issue. This is a bad plane.

[@IflyFS24]

😂😂😂😂

[@Wiktor12384]

Now Mentour Pilot will have to make video about this incident.

[@MrSir2552]

“And this is where things went downhill *really* quickly…”

[@BloodSteyn]

I'd watch that.

[@lukasgraesslin]

Notice how they are flying a 737 MAX? Remember that!

[@brianaviation83]

Hope you’re doing absolutely fantastic today

[@PanOsgiliat]

Actually, there was a real life accident kinda similar to what happened to Emi here and Mentour does have a video about it! Ameristar Charters Flight 9363 - the crew was also unable to rotate, rejected past v1 and endep up in grass. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGLChaSbfrl4aas (Mentour's video)

[@aircraftspottermaverick]

33:35 "Congratulations, they have a working MCAS" absolutely hilarious 😂

[@AlexdAviator]

I mean, the plane is simulated correctly…it’s just the 2018 version

[@Justahuman-vv1]

1918 version *

[@fpstewy1161]

" the plane is simulated correctly…" LOL epic

[@specialopssoldier1]

i can say the same for airbuses

[@fliczs]

@@Justahuman-vv1 ?

[@adennis200]

They opted for MAX realism and they delivered

[@danithepilot5344]

“737 Max doing 737 Max “ 😭💀

[@IncorrigibleBigotry]

"They have a working MCAS"

[@Rafathegam231]

I guess that's also realistic

[@nickre96988]

They could make it truly realistic by having your flight instructor show up 30 minutes late to a lesson with a bag of McDonald’s

[@paulsaulpaul]

First hole in the swiss cheese model was that half the damn instruments, knobs, switches, and avionics didn't work. Second hole is they mounted the wrong engines on the aircraft. Third hole was the decision of the captain to takeoff with low hydraulic fluid and pressure. Fourth hole was the pilot monitoring appeared to just sit there looking pretty and did nothing to assist the pilot flying. She didn't even blow the autopilot.

[@benstringer1058]

looks like I picked a bad day to stop sniffing Glue. lmao

[@Jesse-qy6ur]

@@benstringer1058: Sniffing glue? What is it?

[@StellaKay21]

i lost it when i heard “congratulations, they have a working MCAS” 😂😂😂

[@zoe..d]

FMC suggests trim value of 5.25. Forgets to trim.... Otherwise, this shows the vast difference in quality of systems modelling and research / bug squashing in PMDG's products. They get a lot of heat from loyal customers but once you try inferior versions, the contrast is eye opening.

[@10Exahertz]

Yup, PMDG can be annoying but their quality is hard to beat. Even the new FBW A380, I liked it a lot, and ofc it shouldnt be comparable bc its freeware I get that. But I had to go back to my PMDG 737 after a couple of test flights, its a lovely plane, would have paid for it (yes I donated), but still PMDG just beckons me back

[@ThePerson9406]

@@10ExahertzI bought the PMDG 737 a few weeks ago and it has easily become my favorite plane.

[@zacharypump5910]

@@ThePerson9406 same!

[@adrenaline4life233]

Good catch! I was a bit confused what happened on take-off. Went back and he had two notches of nose down trim for take-off. May not be the only reason why but it definetely wasn't helping.

[@triscadec]

@@adrenaline4life233 and he didn't believe the fuel load and changed that...... pilots doing pilot things.

[@oggybodoggy]

@19:25 You can’t read the electric systems display, because the overhead lighting are off (one of the two knobs you have to rotate) found out by accident last night! @A330Driver

[@andrewwilliams9419]

they should not be able to turn them down that much..good catch

[@A330Driver]

In the real plane they are not linked to one another… but good to know where the bug is 😂

[@oggybodoggy]

@@A330Driver Yes I'm aware 😁 Have you found out what caused the crash in the video?

[@apache65789]

thanks, on mine is pedestal panel lighting at the bottom that does it

[@nikolasaev]

I figured out why the overhead panel and the center pedestal were appearing dark - not because of no Electricity, but because the Panel Light switches were all the way down. They have coupled the analog displays together with the panel lighting and this way you could not see anything...

[@lefisu]

imagine the ntsb listening to the cvr HAHAHAHHA

[@AirShark95]

"HELOOoooooOoooIoooo!?!?!?"

[@CTde110]

"It's not working, but we want to go flying anyway" 💀 🙃

[@NickoD]

I’ll be sticking with my functioning 2020 sim for now.

[@mr.futurestrader2115]

I went to X-Plane 12 since it was on sale and I guess the new update people were talking about and wow is this sim good. My only downside is I’ve spent a lot of money on MSFS probably close to $1000 on planes.

[@GeekFreak-vv1vb]

I flew the 737Max yesterday and thought the plane was too responsive and didn’t really feel right when I was hand flying it. Thank you for confirming my suspicions 😅. Can’t wait for the a330 tutorials.

[@Nour-pv6ee]

HAHAHA, the most realistic 737 Max Experience, i laughed so hard as u full pull up at 160 kt with a light weight plane and NOTHING happens 😂

[@specialopssoldier1]

same i laughed so hard when the airbus did the same

[@v1rotatev230]

The fact that some streamers who played the alpha told us that if you’re on the fence about buying the Ifly 737 max, you should wait until the default one for 2024 comes out.

[@Captain_Simp_00]

They started touting the same horn for iFly when it first released. "Its the best 737 there is on the market! Better than PMDG!" Definitely a great plane, but certainly had a lot of faults on release. But you think these streamers cared?

[@ryan1111111555555555]

Yeah and that explains why the flight model still suck ass, they clearly got some gamers to test it instead of pilots.

[@v1rotatev230]

@@Captain_Simp_00 well of course they don’t care they didn’t spend their own money to purchase the simulator. They were shipped out and given the royal treatment by Microsoft so of course they’re not gonna say anything bad ever instead we gotta watch them slap that fake smile on their face and pretend like we all didn’t just get fucking screwed over.

[@v1rotatev230]

@@ryan1111111555555555 you’re right you know how many KZbinrs I’ve seen who have gotten a free review copy of the simulator and then when you go and look on their page they’ve never flown in a flight simulator ever. It’s just a big gaming channel with a lot of eyes.

[@spidey2085]

There's literally a handful of streamers/youtubers that you should trust for msfs Emi is one of them, so I dont listen to what most say. Im not even touching 2024 until a couple years or more.

[@gilbertprassl2923]

Hahah MCAS simulted too good :D

[@BernardLangham]

when you said "ASOBO's most detailed airliner yet" i knew things weren't going to turn out well. EDIT: Working TItle did the avionics, which explains why the MCDU/CDU/system pages etc appear really solid. everything else though...

[@StubYourToeM8]

Exhibit 25 of why I never pre-order games (of any sort whatsoever). Thank you for your videos

[@BloodSteyn]

Same, just happy this is included in my Game Pass Sub.

[@MrSnow0808]

I dunno if you saw, but his elevator trim was set to -5 nose down position, so the plane would keep nosing down.

[@andrewjames9459]

Just wanted to note I loaded up the max last night, and didn't experience a few of the bugs you did, including having the additional avionics for packs/pressurization/comms, so I was surprised to see this

[@BOBAH-HA]

The very first time I've tried this plane, the plane managed to take off at 90 knots (full pax) and pitched 45 degrees up on its own. What a marvelous machine. The EFB integration is great too, gotta try to take off with a few billions tons of cargo.

[@yourloneaviator]

Found out the reason why you can't see the digits on the radio panels and on the pressurisation panel. You need to increase the brightness with the panel bright knobs! And I ran a test, it's definitely the trim. You were within the green band, but it's "untakeoffable" like that. The config warning rings if the trim is out of the band.

[@keynoteFlyer]

31:40 The STAB TRIM was set right on the forward limit, and maybe a touch beyond it.

[@AirplaneDetective]

Yeah I think he legitimately crashed the plane

[@SwiftractPtss]

But still the plane did not give a take off configuration warning for the out of trim takeoff.

[@keynoteFlyer]

@@SwiftractPtss must've been set just touching the green band then, but still out of trim. That's assuming that this default aircraft actually simulates the Takeoff Config Warning. 🙂

[@Cartman420]

@@keynoteFlyer Yep. This was pilot error, or deliberate.

[@LightsAcapella]

​@@Cartman420 Did you not finish the video or something? The flight controls literally jumped back to neutral while he was pulling back full. Explain to me how that is a 737 feature. There is absolutely no way people are this stupid

[@pm110978]

The cows at the end looked good 😉

[@eddiezetlein6582]

Simulated to a far higher level than the plane......................

[@kilotangosierra]

"737 max doing 737 max things" absolutely killed me 🤣 good stream though. this software is rather bizzare for the price. i'll give it a miss

[@Galf506]

it's really cheap for a simulator but you get what you pay for: it's completely worth it's price, but single, professional grade aircraft alone are between 30€ and 80€. (30€ for simple GA, 80€ for complex airliners). The sim itself is worth the price of entry for the A330 and the other well made planes alone.

[@TheScaryBoy01]

You can toggle the virtual tablet in any plane by pressing TAB. Also live weather doesn't work the same anymore, When you set live weather but the time isn't current it now works as Historical Weather

[@camhackett44]

Probably the worst idea they’ve ever had

[@reason6835]

That sucks! How do you get weather info (METAR data) for historical weather?

[@TheScaryBoy01]

@ I think the in game virtual tablet shows the metar for the selected metar

[@bastulwhite6842]

@@camhackett44 yeah ive seen many streamers on vatsim set the ingame time to noon/morning while streaming late in the afternoon during winter hours in order to have some daylight now and then. guess that won't work anymore.

[@Paradyski]

34:29 These cows are looking at you and thinking, what a nice bull parked here LOL

[@OldManGaming69]

Seems like the nosediving 737 max is quite accurate based on the last couple of years of Boeing history.

[@BeantownRunwayAction]

“Not killing the cows” absolutely hilarious 😂😂😂

[@MikeInExile]

FWIW -- I just tried flying the 737-MAX in FS2024. I started 'ready-to-go' on the runway, and the plane took-off and flew just fine! The simulator had the trim preset at '5'.

[@eddiezetlein6582]

Worse than the Bredok 737 Max in FS 2020. At least that flew. A lot of parts of the sim seem to be broken, I passed my PPL Checkride with a plane that had no engine sounds, no flaps, no trim, and no brakes. Now I'm let loose with ferry flights............. This sim is like The Parson's Nose. Good in parts. Glad you posted this, I hope Asobo see it. All those presentations look a bit hollow now.. They have a mountain to climb before MSFS 2020 is put out to pasture. As usual another great video Emi.

[@twicebaked7420]

Man, I haven't laughed that hard in a while. It flew just like the real thing! Thanks for that.

[@lechatethere7710]

32:52 Wow this game is so realistic ! even Boeing have issues in the game !

[@Liosha2]

At 32:10, when you were trying to find TOGA clickspot, looks like you accidentally switched something to the right of the throttles. Could that be stabiliser trim cut-off switch?)

[@ClouDAction.]

@A330Driver Having the trim set to ~3 (32:01) instead of 5.25 (10:57) for the takeoff didn't really help with the rotation. (;

[@A330Driver]

That's right, but as long as the config warning doesn't sound we are within safe limits for the takeoff.

[@ClouDAction.]

@@A330Driver Green range (on the edge), theoretically it should be possible. (;

[@АртемКачанов-л2б]

@A330Driver It would be great if you could reproduce this flight configuration on ifly and compare how the plane behaves there.

[@707liner8]

Having seen a number of MSFS 2024 videos where people have all kinds of different problems with pretty much all planes, I'm wondering whether part of the problem is in the initial loading of the aircraft from the cloud. It maybe thinks it's downloaded everything , but in reality a whole bunch of functionality is missing that when you try to use it just causes unpredictable behaviour. I just find it hard to believe that Asobo/MS would release aircraft with such fundamentally flawed properties.

[@simonpalmas7403]

Thank you for your video!! Why you didn't set the trim to 5.25?

[@loiphin]

It hurts to shell out $150 and have to deal with such a half-baked piece of sh*t. Now we have to wait 2 years for them to iron out all these bugs. As a long time user (38 years of MSFS) with VR, I feel we are definitely being left out here. Maybe the casual xbox gamer is having a wonderful time in MSFS 2024

[@jeremyc311709]

sure feels like it was geared more towards the casual xbox market as opposed to the hardcore simmer. Its a shame but I knew it would happen when they released 2020 on xbox

[@SteenPedersen]

Hahaha "they have a working MCAS" 🤣

[@JacobianMX]

i noticed your trim... is not quite right? Or the trim is not working properly? If it is the trim, then why the takeoff config warning has not gone off? That's another broken thing in this aircraft...

[@JamesDavidWalley]

Gotta admit…this is the most hilarious flight sim review video since NerdCubed took on FSX all those many years ago.

[@stabtrimout]

MCAS activated :D

[@jameshunt005]

Thank you for your expert analysis! I can’t imagine that Microsoft/Asobo does not consult actual pilots during the development phase of the cockpit! This is exactly the thorough avionics check that needs to be run to get them closer to the mark!

[@lukeskywalker3216]

“737 Max doing 737 Max things“ great 🤣🤣🤣

[@OriginalSeblakCeker]

19:55 I found the avionics display turned on with pedestal panel light switch, which shouldn't be like that but that's how you get it displayed there

[@syafiqueabdullah4074]

737 max doing its things 😂😂😂 that is hillarious!

[@smithkenny8034]

i decide to wait for more mature version of MSFS2024, thank you sir!

[@theroyalcam]

i just got done downloading all world updates for msfs 2020 after refunding msfs 2024

[@smithkenny8034]

[@BloodSteyn]

Sign up on Game Pass for a few months, it's relatively cheap, and you will get access to about 500 other games too while you periodically check in on MSFS 24 eg. STALKER 2 just launched too, and the new Indiana Jones game will drop on the 6th.

[@vampyflys]

In at 1:17, PLEASE tell me there's an EFB option to add duct tape to the door plugs.

[@imatardable]

MAX 8 doesn’t have door plugs. If you’re gonna make a joke, at least know what you’re talking about.

[@vampyflys]

@@imatardable Or you could not be an ass, and just laugh at the joke.

[@vampyflys]

@@imatardable Truly a condom could have prevented your comment

[@FlyByPC]

"They have a working MCAS." Priceless!

[@arescyp]

1. I have purchased MSFS 2024 too and installation went without any issue. It takes me like 30mins to load even with 1gb internet connection. 2. I agree with you about the MAX 100%. I fly frequently the MAX (Ifly) but couldn't get along with the 2024 version. 3.I will continue flying 2020 till all probs on 2024 are sort out.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

I'm sure the load is now fixed and the problems with the MAX too. I doubt any problems remain, Asobo and MS have had enough time to fix the Tuesday Launch of the product. I'll try a little bit later on and find out.

[@H.Witcher]

AI pilot was looking straight all the time until pilot does U turn, and just then she gives him the "are you sure about this?" look 😂

[@JB_Koda]

Apologies for the inconvenience we are going to have to disembark back to the terminal, thank you for your patience.

[@subjectc7505]

Breaking News: Boeing Pilot found with "Self Inflicted wounds" more at Five. Jane.

[@maximoose2775]

Classic Asobo. I'm glad we have the iFly to work with instead, hopefully we can transfer it to 2024 soon

[@ali.m9130]

I'm glad that I didn't wait for default max and got the ifly 😂

[@yohannessulistyo4025]

I know it shouldn't behave like that when you apply full elevator up deflection. However, the FMC calculated trim position is 5.25, but the arrow in the elev trim indicator during the take-off run is on the top of green band, which is like 2.00 to 2.75? Why is that? Did you forget to adjust the trim?

[@tompsu9536]

Asobo looked at forgot to put the word max when searching for 737 MAX 8 specs and instead looked at 737-800 specs

[@wareaglex3649]

If Asobo spent as much time on the herds of cows, photorealistic rocks, and flowers that wave in the breeze as they did on things that matter to actual flight, FS 24 would be a level D simulator. BTW since we know that the old MCAS is modeled, did you check to see if the rear door plug also fell off?

[@fsclips]

Am I glad that I am not the only real world pilot that struggles with this SIM. So far I have found most airliners un-flyable. Lots of work for MS and ASOBO to get through.

[@ejagger]

While auguring in, "737 MAX doing 737 MAX things?!?" Yup. LOL

[@felipeturbayr]

whats up Emi? did you forget how to fly the Max on that take off? 🤣

[@TheKsipiora]

Lmfao working MCAS I’m still laughing. I was not expecting this video to end this way but man it gave me a good laugh

[@gwalker3092]

Last night was flying the Fenix SL in 2020 was like coming home from a bad trip,and sitting in your favourite chair. I’m realistic about 2024 but overall atm I’m not filled with a lot of confidence at present. For sure it will get better but this isn’t what I was expecting. I carnt use most of the planes as they just don’t load. I’m more annoyed that A350 won’t come to 2020 and have put up with this 2024 crap to fly it. Was a dream now a probable nightmare 😅. As long as they fix it by then fine everything else I now don’t care.

[@ghurghust]

exactly, i don't know why Inibuilds decided to release A350 only in MSFS 2024

[@brianaviation83]

Absolutely I love flying the PMDG 737 and now I find out even they are issues porting to the new sim. I didn’t buy MSFS 24 to fly default airplanes that hardly work themselves. It’s just very frustrating.

[@AirShark95]

​@@ghurghustBecause it might be a marketing trick to get 2020 players to 2024. Afterall, iniBuilds and Asobo are partnered up.

[@Xenthera]

Any new software is always buggy. Over the next week or two they’ll roll out patches to fix stuff.

[@AabdallahAddly]

@@ghurghust i am sure that this is not inibuilds decision alone, i think asobo told inibuilds about this idea to try and convince people about the importance of our new sim and forcing people to buy it, because if you think about it you will find that inibuilds developing the a350 in msfs 2020 sdk so why not to release it for both sims🤔 and the same for the a330 and other ini aircraft that carried this sim

[@mgut1234]

When has you trim your max ?? perhaps that you trouble ? i have enregistred your video and send at asobo this little detail for know this trouble

[@Trickpa85]

Le Trim il connait peux être pas

[@JFSoutboards]

Take off trim wasn't set. Come on.

I set it up before then it said the plane crashed when I pressed TO/GA...

[@A330Driver]

Trim was within the takeoff range (otherwise the takeoff config warning would have sounded). As long as it is within the green band the airplane is safe to fly and takeoff. The FCTM is very clear about this. You might need to use full control inputs, but I did and it still didn't react.

[@JFSoutboards]

@@A330Driver It's barely in the green band. I fly the max daily, it needs trim around 7-7.5. Looking at the trim at 31:39, it's barely set at 3 or something. Of course it should still rotate to some extent but come on, you'll never see a Max8 with the trim set that low.

[@JFSoutboards]

5.25 was what the FMC was indicating, it's clearly wrong as I said but still, you didn't set the trim to 5.25.

[@A330Driver]

@@JFSoutboards But how does the trim matter? We didn't get a takeoff config warning so we were safe to fly. Of course, some additional elevator might be needed, but I pulled full back. The airplanes reaction can not be explained by the trim.

[@Dimexi_78]

If you have a Navigraph subscription, you can even plan the simbrief plan inside EFB and also have navigraph charts functionality inside the EFB. When you export from Navigraph charts inside EFB, it will autopopulate the FMC and the ATC plan.

[@MohamedMachkour-b6h]

Bro you forgot the trim it was at 2 or something close

[@Aeroknots]

Yup! It was trimmed Nose-down outside of normal Take off limits.. Can't believe he forgot to set the trim for Take off! lmao

[@MohamedMachkour-b6h]

I know. I think he forgot that he was flying Boeing, not Airbus.

[@Aeroknots]

@@MohamedMachkour-b6h Rookie mistake from a former "IRL Max PIlot". 🙌

[@A330Driver]

@@Aeroknotswell if it was outside the limit we should have gotten a takeoff config warning. We didn’t so it must have been within limits. And in that case it should fly. Perhaps with full up elevator needed but I did pull all the way and nothing happened. So there’s significant bugs here one way or the other.

[@MohamedMachkour-b6h]

@@A330Driver well the the 737 max 8 was really nicely modeled coz it was made by Asobo

[@eurotexan9799]

You are stabbed at 3 on takeoff, performance calculator calls for 5.25. There is nothing wrong with the aircraft, it did exactly what it was designed to do....nose down.

[@HerrinSchadenfreude]

I can totally feel the Boeing spokesman in your official statement to the public!

[@eurotexan9799]

@@HerrinSchadenfreude Funny 🤣 Not a Boeing spokesman, just a general pilot statement that applies to any aircraft you fly starting beyond a C150.

[@mauritsbol4806]

"Luckily we didn't kill any cows tho", imagine a pilot saying that, i'd be dying

[@mauritsbol4806]

New way to describe a successful flight, by number of cows not killed

[@Sbbbb476]

Atleast they have working cows💀

[@daviduzzell6942]

I'm glad it wasn't just me having these issues with the MAX. It requires a lot of updating.

[@umi3017]

You didn't set the trim as 5.25 on TO page, but rather left it on the forward edge of green band. I don't blame you as there is so much bugs happening in the per-flight, really break the flow.... And while you should still able to climb out in the green band, not with the yoke rubber band back to neutral..

[@mdhazeldine]

On a serious note, I was actually going to say, that after he pulled the yoke back, I didn't ever hear the trim wheels turn, so I wondered if it might be a trim issue.

[@Waveif]

It was in the green band so it definitely shouldnt pitch down that abruptly

[@orcasea59]

I demand an upgrade on my next flight. The Mrs's is so upset she's threatening to take Italian taxis everywhere now!

[@crackerbarrel6965]

The entire MSFS2024 franchise needed to be baked a lot more before declaring it ready for consumer consumption. Got my Aviator Edition refunded I’ll wait until this hot mess is sorted out. MSFS2020 for me in the meantime thank you.

[@reason6835]

Me too! Call me when they fix this disaster.

[@THETATTOOGARDENER83]

Agree so pleased I kept it this 2024 flightsim will take ages to get right it all feels abit rushed It feels like eating a half cooked chicken that’s pink in the middle you just don’t do it

[@johnh9637]

At least the cows that lost their lives in this test flight were virtual. Thanks for the demo. You have more patience than I have.

[@browsing_just]

I just flew the max for 400 miles and it was perfectly fine for me.

[@lluvik2450]

i also had issues with it

[@tmanwattsutube]

Appears the steering column wasn’t calibrated. What kind of controller were you using to fly? Joystick? Mouse? Wheel? I find after some upgrades I have to recalibrate a number of controls, sometimes at the Operating System level.

[@10speed4]

Your copilot bailed on you. She did like many others in marriage, hit a little turbulence and she’s nowhere to be found 😂.

[@William-fl4qx]

737 max doing 737 max things LMAO I LOVE IT

[@mikko3315]

Commenting only on what I saw happening in the video, nothing more nothing less. 09:31 CG 6% extreme forward center of gravity, and the fuel tanks empty. 11:14 FMS screams unable crz altitude, insufficient fuel (!!) 22:59 T/O trim was not set, instead it's set to nose down -5 26:48 "So, we do wanna go flying, and if anything goes wrong, I guess we'll see about it." Attempted take-off with almost no fuel board, extreme forward center of gravity and outside of take-off trim limit set to a nose down attitude. Using a flex/derated thrust didn't give a lot of margin for error because the engines were not producing full thrust. When the plane wouldn't take off and slammed into the runway nose first, instead of cutting his losses and aborting (it was already past V1), trying to pull the nose up right into max alpha and stick shaker at low speed.

[@A330Driver]

If I aborted any video for any reason to abort a flight in the real world we'd barely be flying anything at all in any sim. However to comment on your findings: 09:31: As you can see at a later point when we import the CG in the FMS it's actually at a lot more reasonable value. What you see there is the cruise CG and that is not a value detected or sensed by the FMC, but something the airline inserts as default value. It's 5 on all 737's I've flown in my life. That value means nothing in regards to the actual load. 11:14: Check this out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpTXiXuQedSKd68 22:59: Where do you see it at -5 units? I can't see that in the vid. 26:48: Again, if you grounded sim airplanes for every bug you wouldn't be flying at all. With the above we can conclude that your statement about my takeoff is incorrect. In regards to your last statement: The plane would have broken apart at that first mometn slamming into the runway, there wouldn't have been any decision making after that anymore lol

[@chrisibbotson6367]

Did I miss where you set the take off trim? Ive not flown the Max in the sim yet but about to start. It has had a number of recent updates

[@sebastien1174]

That aircraft is insulting the whole community. A slap in the face.

[@v1rotatev230]

That’s because it’s a default aSobo plane. Now the default Ini planes are pretty decent for what I seen. But I haven’t even been able to take off in the max because I can’t get the GPU to connect the APU to start and I can’t be in the sim for more than two minutes without it crashing.

[@smakfu1375]

I lol’d pretty damn hard at this video. I was expecting all sorts of minor issues, but I didn’t see the whole MCAS fault simulation coming.

[@jcsk8]

Microsoft Bug Simulator.

[@SingleShotSingleTake]

Thank you for a great video and good laughs. I love the sim community!

[@Vtarngpb]

Pretty sure this one should be chalked up to operator error 😂

[@benstringer1058]

When you have to learn to fly like being in a canard, because Boeing...🤣 I think I'll stick to flying reindeer til after the holidays. 🎅

[@captlonghaul1641]

when msfs 2020 came remember how bad it was now look at 2024 and imagine where it will be sky the limit!

[@77GolfXray]

I don't care what happens to it as long as it remains on the cloud. I will stay with X-plane and 2020 until then.

[@venmal1805]

2024 isn’t good and people are kissing Microsoft’s ass like they do with the other companies making new games these days

[@BloodSteyn]

@@77GolfXray Uhm... 2020 is also technically Cloud... to a lesser degree, but plenty of cloud based data.

[@BloodSteyn]

​@@venmal1805 The launch was a shitshow, for sure. But for the last two days I've been enjoying the hell out of it. Now, I'm not that much into airliners and enjoy GA more, so the Career Mode has been an absolute blast. My biggest issue so far has been needing to shut down last night because the power went out and my inverter wouldn't carry my PC for long... and I had to keep fans running for the family as it was pretty hot. Honestly, MSFS is pretty good for folks when it works and they can get in. Sure it has bugs that could have been handled better, but it will get fixed and it will be enjoyed.

[@77GolfXray]

@@BloodSteyn Yeah no shit, but I can still play it offline.

[@Cicero-o8u]

Yep, can confirm, exact same thing happened to me when I was using the 737, but from what i could tell, the issue was in the Elevators, they got jammed at some absurd degree, and even manually winding the trim did barely anything. Hopefully they can fix this soon. Because other than that everything else seemed fine.

[@dadriel]

You know, it might actually work better if you trim the plane at some point ;)

[@A330Driver]

Nope, trim wouldn't have an effect like this ;-)

[@keelo3946]

Your stab trim is set to 3 units....I don't think I ever took off with a 737 with less than 5.75, and that's with 120 pax

[@guillaume_69]

Exactly. No way this bird was taking off with that trim settings. But hey, he's "real 737 pilot". Sure hope not.

[@andy70d35]

@@guillaume_69 As long as the trim is in the green the REAL 737 Max will take off, you might need FULL elevator, but it will take off.

[@guillaume_69]

@andy70d35 and that's fine. It doesn't really change the fact that he rushed his review, didn't prepare the plane accordingly, not sure about his controls setup, and came to the conclusion it was sh*t made by monkeys. Did you fly the Max? It went smoothly for me and lots of other people. And yes, I'm going to doubt this guy's real pilot claim, because in my circle of pilots I don't know anyone that does, rash judgements. Thank goodness. Enough on that, we ought to do more flying and less messaging ✈️😊

[@LeadsTheFallen]

Imagine the people that paid £200 for the premium game lol

[@Petercrossed]

It's a long term investment 😊

[@jamiedavinci1328]

They'll have like 200 extra planes they can fly instead, so I'm sure they'll be fine.

[@jimmiddleton9849]

On the overhead, turn the panel lights ALL THE WAY UP and your power meters will light up.

[@gmofftarki]

I think something got screwed up in your streaming data... I was able to fly a flight with the fs24 737Max just fine on day 1 of fs24 (the second try, since I forgot to remove pitot covers the first time). Even the "gen off bus" lights illuminated for me and the AC panel wasn't blacked out. I'd give it another try when you're at home on your stable internet. EDIT: Not that it was perfect... you had proper colors for your ADI, but, for me, they were bright yellow and bright teal, making it impossible to see the green annunciators. But once I got past that, it actually seemed to fly properly.

[@jerryalbert]

Don't expect a quick fix. First day I spent 30 hours flying, 3 in the MAX. It's quite a mess. Waiting on my refund. Sticking to 2020 until they get things sorted out.....hopefully. Great video.

[@AviadorLPA]

You took of with trim in 3 points, quite rare setting isn't it?

[@ChocolateTampon]

After watching Air Crash Investigation I can conclude that: a) No flaps set b) Icing c) Elevator trim set incorrectly d) Too many fat people in first class e) Handbrake is on and plane is in Park f) You are a Ryanair pilot g) Flight Sim is borked

[@darnedghost2008]

Love that you posted this video anyway :)

[@NightingaleVictor]

I was doing the “learn airliners” thing in the activities page of MSFS2024 - it was a take-off and ILS landing with the Boeing 737 Max 8 into LFMN Nice Côte d’Azur. The takeoff page of the FMC says that the trim is supposed to be 6.50, and when you trim the aircraft to 6.50, it rotates well before even the V1 speed, I remember the VR was 132 and the V2 142. Then, you’re fighting a battle to death trying to make it climb with a constant pitch attitude. Coming in for a landing, the auto-throttle does not work, even though the button is pushed with the green lighted bar displayed. The localizer for Nice is totally botched; it tells you the runway is like two miles to the right than where it actually is. It handles weirdly. The one upside is that the yoke movement on screen isn’t 15 FPS like before in the PMDG 737NG series of MSFS2020.

[@BadKarmaSCC]

your trim looked out of limit before the takeoff roll started.