This is How You Don't Play Elden Ring #3

[@Sufyan_Aljamal]

Suggestion to confirm "The Input Delay" using facts: Group of people needed here each of them will play on different platform so all platforms Elden Ring been released on will be covered. The following actions needed to be recorded : 1-While equipped Bloodhound's fang attack(light and heavy) in one handed and two handed each 2-Roll in all three loads (light,med and heavy) 3-Jump The video and the game needed to be recorded in 60 FPS(if there's an option to force that in different platform then do that) while using a controller input display program. A timer in frames and seconds that starts the moment input shown it's been pressed by the program (previously mentioned) to the moment the action begins. Put the platform you've tested all of that on the bottom left, your username on the upper left, the controller input display program overlay and the timer on the bottom right while your character facing left for all the actions. Finally an editor needed to make all tests in side to side comparison in normal ,half and quarter speed.

[@niborproductions252]

I'm playing the game on ps4 with 30fps and there is some inputlag but Just Like bloodborne I got used to it very well. I just beat rykard and the duo crucible knights, i'm having the time of my Llfe! Btw. Love youre vids, keep up the amazing work!

[@Sufyan_Aljamal]

@@niborproductions252 Thank you for the information, but is there no way to play Elden Ring in 60FPS on PS4?

[@niborproductions252]

@@Sufyan_Aljamal sadly not, I would if I could 😅

[@xvnz]

you can see in phil's own footage that there is barely any if at all. he is just complaining that actions have small wind ups and confuses it input delay. 15:47 the character reacts immediately when he presses the button. the sword dips a little further behind and then the damaging swing starts. that's also what the dude in chat meant when he said it's because it is a big weapon which phil doesn't understand and starts talking about equip load instead. what he wants is none of that wind up and recovery just push the button one frame later the sword appears in front of him does damage for a couple frames and in the next frame the character is neutral again.

[@Sufyan_Aljamal]

@@xvnz Yeah I know DSP is confusing animations for inputs delay, but in his mind it's "input delay" hence I'm trying to prove him wrong using actual footages from different people using program and timer(mentioned above).This test can be exclusive for PS5 version players just to confirm that "input delay" is global or not.

[@notusingmyname2634]

I love how every playthrough he starts out by acting like he's actually somewhat of a fan of these games then almost immediately starts cussing out miyazaki

[@KyosukeShigeru]

He does this with every game he plays.

[@daytonadangler9455]

He clearly hates being a variety streamer but needs to toss darts at the board to try to make that daily goal.

[@shushshush7137]

Complain that the game is literally darks souls 3. Complain the game isnt like dark souls 3. Cant understand basic shit that should be obvious since he played previous souls game. Tries to prove delay that doesnt exist. No wonder why he's a joke online jeez

[@fuzzy8889]

​@@shushshush7137 hes pretty much a joke online because he hates playing games and looks at stream chat constantly for handholding

[@carlisle6831]

The fact that he played nearly every single souls game prior to eldern ring TWICE (some even 3 times lol) and still doesn’t understand the difference between input delay and queued inputs that these games utilize is truly amazing lmao

[@HHHoldTheBass]

He's such a numbskull

[@kickassninja831]

Your first mistake was assuming Phil Burnell can understand ANYTHING at all ever.

[@thanatos2980]

Watching Margit roll catch him constantly and him saying he has to panic roll while the attacks are desinged to catch panic rolls is so good

[@jacoboalcaldebravo7316]

Most bosses are designed to catch rolls and panic rolls. A lot of them, if you start rolling constantly, will keep winding up their attack animation and swing much later just to catch you out of stamina. Happens with Margit, with Godrick, with a lot of normal enemies (scaly misbegotten, generals, fire monks...) and other hard bosses like Mogh or Rykhard do it to.

[@QuackSus]

@@jacoboalcaldebravo7316 so does that make it harder or easier than ds3 because i heard you can panic roll every boss in ds3 besides nameless king and i beat elden ring with only a bit of trouble

[@jacoboalcaldebravo7316]

@@QuackSus A bit harder and makes panic rolling something that you need way more luck to be successful since bosses will either wind up their attacks heavily. But like i said, depends mainly on how lucky you are

[@steveo20007]

I swear Phil’s mindset is that as soon as he hits dodge he gets full invincibility frames instead of everyone else’s mindset that you get the invincibility frames at the apex of the dodge. And that’s why he calls it input delay. Even when he’s displaying the ‘lag’, his character starts to roll immediately when he pushes dodge, but it takes a moment for him to get into the air for those invincibility frames.

[@stangunn4645]

exactly. you get i frames in the middle of your dodge. what does DSP think roll catching means? You can get roll caught because you lose I frames at the end of your roll, while in the animation.

[@bobobsen]

If he had light load he would get the full i-frames, but he'd still die and say he dodged

[@stangunn4645]

@beef business I don’t think it’s new. I remember it well from ds1 and 2. 3 might’ve been different since it was much faster paced. In ER nearly every boss has some sort of delayed attack to throw you off, and I think I frames were cut down from Ds3 to add a bit more difficulty. Idk just speculating.

[@stangunn4645]

@@bobobsen Exactly. It’s almost infuriating to watch. His perspective is that he is INCAPABLE of making a mistake. It’s always the games fault. I think that speaks on a bigger issue in his life on taking ownership and accountability.

[@GodWarsX]

The dude is just pathetic and playing these games makes him miserable for no reason

[@deltaphazon4688]

DSP, just like in Sekiro, trying to prove Elden Ring has input delay proves that Elden Ring does not in fact have input delay. He just doesn't know what a wind up animation is. Imagine using a large sword and expecting it to come out as fast as a dagger.

[@DR.SLAMMER]

He also still doesn't realize that Soulsborne games queue your inputs.

[@totallyinteresting68]

@@drsyndrome3486 the point is DSP thinks there is relevant input delay. Obviously there is no relevant input delay, relevant being taken to mean anything that would prohibit you from being good at the game. There is quantifiable mercury in the fish I eat, yet the mercury there is basically irrelevant because of how little there is.

[@AdriftForWeeks]

it's mostly him still not understanding dodge on release. he keeps on whining everytime about his roll delays while putting in zero effort to understand the dodge on button release. he whines he cannot react on time because of delay but that's bs, that would mean every competent player would have to be psychic to see attacks coming. With Margit you can visually see him panic rolling during the long winding boss attacks then blaming the game for inputdelay when he get caught inbetween his nonesense panic rolling. he also doesn't understand s.

[@lolicongang.4974]

@@drsyndrome3486 No... Alot of people don't feel it . As they are capable of playing a new game learning it's mechanics and understanding it. Oh my character needs a split second to roll... Oh whatever will I do. That's how I feel when I play this game.... Pfft. No I see an attack I roll I fuck up I say, got to learn that one.

[@lolicongang.4974]

@@drsyndrome3486 Well that's called learning the move of the enemy right he swings up with his blade roll when it comes down. He does 3 circle attacks guess what roll at the right time of impact. Interesting how others play this game and are doing fine right people fighting what this guy fight and taking no damage so.... It's not a problem of the game but the problem of the user. His problem not the game.

[@HHHoldTheBass]

Been waiting for this one, thank you for taking the time to compile this gold tinged excrement. Love your editing too, cheers my friend.

[@HHHoldTheBass]

@beef business in the corporeal flesh baby

[@lostprophecy7593]

Lmao gold tinged excrement 🤣

[@AirahsELL]

It's not that difficult to determine that Phil's talking out of his ass with this. He has no idea what startup frames are and somehow doesn't understand that you can't cancel certain things in this game.

[@HHHoldTheBass]

@@AirahsELL his whole delayed input rant for the rolls genuinely irritated me. It's things like that that make me question whether he's trolling, which at this point is short of impossible.

[@lBorosDavidl]

Of course Phil doesn't get hugged by Fia... *Khet is watching*

[@jacoboalcaldebravo7316]

We all know that Khet is always watching. God forbid he touches a digital woman.

[@pianoish]

We need a compilation of Phil saying “Margit what a terrible name” and then all the times he calls him Mergit after that.

[@self-parternerd8661]

- Philburt plays the game like it's his real life: he hits the bottle to solve his problems.

[@totallyinteresting68]

“This is the most confusing dungeon from soulsbourne” The forbidden woods would like to have a word

[@GodWarsX]

I've played bloodborne so many times and I still cant map out those woods in my mind

[@EldritchChaplin]

It's pretty simple, it's just a winding path that is marked by lights. If you just keep following it, you'll reach the end quite quickly.

[@advcrim77]

Chalice dungeons: *AHEM*

[@MrSanghelios]

I still think Stormveil is the most complex dungeon of any Souls game. Well, maybe that one level from Code Vein if you count non-FS games (everyone who played it knows what I'm talking about lol)

[@Sylv3onYT]

"I'm being told" simulator 2022

[@KarasuMayonaka]

Love that Phil's excuse for this entire game will just be input delay

[@lordloverocket81]

i'm starting to think he does have input delay, just it's from his brain to hands.

[@KyosukeShigeru]

That, or his dodge or move didn't "come out".

[@Sylv3onYT]

18:50 I love it when he shows how delayed the dodging is, and it comes out instantly with absolutely no delay.

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

The whole “input delay, dood!” is simply his gout-ridden brain not understanding start-up frames.

[@havyn88]

"Clicks* *Immediately Swings* *Clicks* *Immediately rolls* See, gaaiisss. This is almost Amberlynn levels of delusion.

[@blastchambers2150]

I took on and managed to finally beat Malenia, Blade of Miquella. If the game had input delay than nobody would have EVER beat her. So I am going to have to say Phil is wrong. Period.

[@Chic4g0BuLLsJ]

Right lol. The only input delay is in his brain 🤣

[@sayxxdx]

The AI will react when you heal with the flash, so everytime he's getting hit and saying it's BS is dumb. You have to create your own opening and move around the boss. My 12 year old son has gotten more progress on this game and he understands that it's difficult and he needs to rethink his strategy when things aren't working. DSP is amazing in the sense of his entitlement. He genuinely believes he should just be able to beat a boss right as soon as he sees it? Considering he's played Dark Souls and Bloodborne, it's weird how even the bosses he's supposed to beat to progress the story its too difficult and it's BS. DSP has 99 excuses but never one solution.

[@Alice89chan]

I beat her and learned when to move and how as it went after a few attempts. He is BSing.

[@KyosukeShigeru]

Godrick farts in his face and he just quits his session right then and there, amazing. I have this on in the background while I'm exploring the wilds, and I feel like his complaints are bullshit. Everyone is going to have a different experience in this game, but it seems clear he was meant to suffer endlessly.

[@johnnissen6028]

"It's just me? How could it just be me? Because no-one else would be this desperate to justify their shit gameplay phil

[@torchlight1785]

He later retconned using the jellyfish to beat Margit. Saying “I beat the game without using summons.”

[@KlingonGamerYT]

Ive ordered this game from amazon ... to be honest If he can play this game and suck at it then I can .....well I cant be any worse

[@Sufyan_Aljamal]

This game is fun and worth the money, expect 100 hours gameplay at least.

[@HHHoldTheBass]

Keep in mind this man has played and finished each game in the Soulsborne series, and is still this inept. Take your time, explore and have fun. The game can be punishing but treat each death like a learning experience and when you overcome, the feeling is incredible.

[@KeyToAeris2024]

Enjoy! Trust me these games are so much fun when you get to play them at your own pace

[@ruminating1596]

This game has an insane amount of tools to assist you. You literally just have to use two brain cells to figure it out. For example: certain bosses will give you issues with their abilities. There are Summons you can use that counter these abilities. If you're not into using Summons then you can mess around with different Ashes of War that can give you the edge. DSP is just a literal idiot who wants to steam roll through a game without adapting. This is the same guy that complained non-stop in Nioh about the combat, but never changed his stances to counter the bosses. He used Mid stance the entire game.

[@augistry5439]

@@faithless-games3893 I got mine at 92, i enjoyed every single minute of it, im still playing too lol big soul pvp guy

[@DanielKay06]

Very beginning "I want to be able to beat everything as soon as I see it", the Tree Sentinel is specifically there to teach you that sometimes bosses ARE too much for you right away and you should come back to take them on later... well Phil took 36 tries and ramming his head against it for over an hour to beat it so I guess that lesson didn't work :P

[@Dial8Transmition]

If you go frame by frame to see his "input delay", and you count the frames from when his finger hits the button to when the animation starts, it's about 8 frames delay, give or take. The game runs at 30 fps, which, If I'm not mistaken, 8 frames would be about 0.3 seconds(?). it's probably even less when considering the possibility that's there's a delay between his camera and the screen recording. But even if there was a 0.3 delay, there is absolutely no way he notices a delay that tiny, average reaction time for a human is about 250-300 ms, and we all know how terrible Phil's reaction time is

[@penguinsmovies]

He should have that health flask on an IV drip.

[@DR.SLAMMER]

He chugs the flasks like he chugs his gin 😂

[@KyosukeShigeru]

Gods forbid he stumbles upon the regen talisman, then he'll think it's gonna solve his healing problems right then and there.

[@Saruva_Eduardo]

He was ranting "people don't criticize pro players that keep dying a lot" failing to see that "pro players" don't explain every single death not taking responsability for their failures.

[@KyosukeShigeru]

Die and die again, but do it with a sense of pride!

[@shushshush7137]

Rage quitting godrick made me lose it lmfao. The only tarnished he made kneel

[@LordTyrone1989]

36:39 He's made it to Stormveil, and has never smithed the Bloodhound's Fang?

[@Alice89chan]

The Godrick salt was glorious. Dude... he has tornado attacks, one of which is on fire. How did he not notice them?! xD

[@ghostoflazlo]

Steps in to the arena "bad framerate" And thats what we call a preemptive strike kids.

[@ruminating1596]

I remember in Dark Souls 1 DSP said "In real life, if you're a Knight, you don't do giant swings like that". IN regard to him swinging at a mob and falling off a bridge. So in real life DSP, can you wear a full Knight armor set and do instant rolls? I'll wait for my answer :)

[@halcyondazed5665]

HE can't

[@Deus35]

DSP Response: "Alright someone in the chat is saying a bunch of BULL SHIT that I said YEARS AGO, so I'm done with this bullshit in the chat, I'm done with it and I don't care, you know what, just ban this idiot."

[@ruminating1596]

@@Deus35 LMAO! Read that in his voice. Perfect!

[@npcunknown9877]

of course he can, he's dsp master and savior of whales and wheelchairs 😂 his logic is the only logic the world needs

[@pantheman2842]

I doubt he can do rolls WITHOUT armor.

[@MrObscureinsanity]

I love your edits. The little horn dancer guy cracks me up

[@KeyToAeris2024]

This Tihydp is gonna be like 20 hours long isn’t it

[@Sufyan_Aljamal]

I wish I knew, but that depends on DSP and how many materials for TIHYDP he can produce till he finishes this game, but I'm going to assume 15 hours in total.

[@KarasuMayonaka]

@@Sufyan_Aljamal hey with how well made your videos are I am all for it

[@zsomborbudai7473]

I think the Malenia fight will be his death record. If he does it without summons.

[@Sufyan_Aljamal]

@@zsomborbudai7473 If she wont be nerfed by the time he fights her and he does it without any cheese ,summon, change his build or rage quits then that will take hours of attempts ,but let's be real here DSP will find a way to make the fight easier and if that doesn't go as planned he will simply quit the fight and just finishes the game.

[@Sufyan_Aljamal]

@oh... It was a great experience for me since this is the first TIHYDP I made in montage format, looking at the first attempt of montaging(this part) and then comparing it with last one show me how far I've come ,thanks to the feedbacks I got from some of the comments. This one was fun to edit and challenging due to the weekly editing plan I made for myself so I can upload these and even then sometimes that was not enough to edit and upload some parts in that period of time. As for how long did it take me to edit one; On average week.

[@Crashdown96]

Woo part 3! Love your editing. Thank you for taking the time to do these so we can all laugh at Phil.

[@jasonsgroovemachine]

What Phil calls input delay the rest of the world calls an animation.

[@Bejitabro]

After playing all these souls games multiple times, he still hasn't learned that you should level HP first

[@pianoish]

There’s a channel on KZbin where a guy is beating all the major and difficult bosses at level 1 with a club and taking no damage (he has some very powerful damage buffs though). He’s kind of proving Phil’s point at the beginning, that yes it is possible to go into any boss fight and learn all the moves and be able to beat the boss when you’re under leveled, Phil just isn’t a good enough player to do that, or at least to make it entertaining.

[@Abedeuss]

Iron Pineapple beat Elden RIng at level 1, though pre-1.03 patch (so same how most of the gameplay from the last 3 TIHYDPs). He used a variety of spells, weapon arts, talismans etc and only had to resort to play summons in literally last boss, because at level 1 with no armor, or Vigor he found it impossible to survive one of the homing attacks. Still, majority of the game beaten. And he couldn't use Mimic Tear since it inherits player's stats and equipment.

[@jacoboalcaldebravo7316]

I even saw a video of someone defeating Malenia in 2 hits after 30 seconds of buffing and by combining those buffs and a couple of charms, he did a thrust with a zweihander and she dropped dead for the first form and another poke for the second. And the guy had less than 500 health

[@daytonadangler9455]

“I’m not a children’s entertainer. I am a child!”

[@stonecoldhooligani3862]

DSP looks extra special with his jean vest and knitted knight helmet

[@onlyicedgarrett7791]

Plenty of great edits in this one. From arranging it so we can watch his garbage gameplay alongside his salty rants to on-the-nose sound bytes such as "I've got BOSS WEAPONS", the only thing holding back the quality of this TIHYDP is Phil's boring self.

[@MariaIsabellaZNN]

That stupid $4.20 message, man.. that has some real "how do you do, fellow kids" energy. Great TIHYDP videos tho, they definitely make me giddy whenever a new one appears.

[@jewalky]

I just learned brand new godrick the grafted lore thanks! lmao

[@Heckin238]

DSP:You just have to avoid the grab. UTS: *Head slam/tail whip combo.*

[@littlebird7383]

Dude won’t be happy with his “input timing” until the goddamn controller reads his mind and acts accordingly on its own. (Tbh it’d be something similar to this:) “Hey! This isn’t fair! I was just *thinking* about dodging, I didn’t actually *want* to dodge! Stupid controller and it’s false inputs. Reading my mind, yeah right.”

[@johnnyzen4282]

I like how a completely different game having more input delay on ps5 automatically means that Elden Ring does as well. The delay is barely noticeable, he makes it out to be like there's an entire second of delay.

[@Ackenboro]

I've tried Elden Ring on every platform except Xbone and noticed next to no difference in input timings (marginally worse on PS4, but it's just that, marginal), this pair of clown shoes doesn't know the difference between input delay, input queuing or recovery times for animations, it's all just "delay" to him. It's especially egregious when you consider how many fighting games this thing has played in the past, to not even know stuff that fundamental. Contrary to popular belief you can teach an old dog new tricks, this particular dog though has two legs, drags its behind across the floor, drools everywhere, has vascular dementia and a WWE gacha addiction. Thanks for these videos. I love(?) them.

[@Sufyan_Aljamal]

Just out of curiosity when you rolled in med load(if you've tested that) how many frames did it take from the moment you pressed the button until the action begins?

[@Ackenboro]

@@Sufyan_Aljamal Couldn't give you an exact measurement sadly. I'm playing on PC atm (on an oled TV, NOT a monitor) and at normal speed it felt snappy. I just did a short recording and slowed down the footage and there's definitely a handful of frames before the input goes through as you'd expect, and I can tell you that having played the current gen console versions that they honestly feel about the same to me, perhaps a tiny bit less responsive but absolutely nothing like the 1/2 second rubbish you see from Phil and others. Honestly part of me thinks that people are just playing without activating Game Mode on their TV's or something, because that actually WOULD explain the delay.

[@GothicXlightning]

43:07 lets summarize The Pig's entire gaming carrier in a fucking Nutshell

[@hyper-night-parade6220]

ay perfect thing to watch while I play Elden Ring!

[@santalim3181]

He's right, there is a Input lag. In his brain.

[@bobobsen]

9:19 he's already missing deaths, in case he didn't add this one later

[@jtmarin04]

@53:15 DSP gets hit by Godrick's mace in his off hand lol

[@LordTyrone1989]

12:52 "WIND SCAR!"

[@jmkos86]

There is no input delay. His complaint is the animation time. Some weapon animations take longer for the actual swing to come out. Same with the roll. The animation starts immediately but the actual “roll” happens a second later.

[@bobobsen]

When I saw the death count difference I was almost going to congratulate him for beating Margit with only 8 deaths (despite his high vigor and relatively strong gear making it easier than for most). Then I saw how he just summoned that jellyfish and kept backstabbing Margit, all because he didn't comprehend that he should just move back as soon as Margit summons the light dagger. Classic Phil. Souls veteran and professional gamer right there. I also like how he was still literally 1 hit away from dying.

[@notusingmyname2634]

I mean he did it without summoning 2 other players at least

[@lolicongang.4974]

I summoned lol.

[@bobobsen]

@@notusingmyname2634 Phil will never try to summon people, he'll see "Kat_is_a_horse" signs everywhere and he knows it

[@basedchicken779]

The way he feels fighting Godrick is how I feel fighting Malenia haha bitch does an immediate U turn mid air and always catches me with the final flurry of WFD and shits all over me

[@StuffyMc]

What is this shit with him complaining about delay? I have NEVER experienced what he's talking about, all the way from Demon's Souls to Elden Ring.

[@theonionsystem7779]

Same never a single issue at all and even using a wireless xbox controller on my xbox and no issue at all when I usually have used controllers wired

[@angelobelmont]

Excellent TIHYDP so far! 8D Keep up the good work!

[@yanisole1806]

The dragon has It body covered in flames but he do not understand what hit It.... Dsp logic

[@SilentMott]

15:44 Phil in an attempt to show how delayed game controls are ironically showing everyone just how little delay there is between button press and wind up animation. As soon as I heard his controller "click", his character was already winding up to swing his ENORMOUS GREATSWORD. Meanwhile I'm replaying dark souls 2 which makes this look like a street fighter game in terms of responsiveness.

[@kmlyk8559]

There's no way that's a real human. He must be trolling for his channel.

[@orin654]

If Phil realizes that the enemies will punish people for healing near them...why does he keep doing it?

[@GodWarsX]

Imagine being this miserable at all times while doing your "hobby"

[@justmonika2345]

Fromsoft wasn't fucking around with the difficulty of this game compared to the rest in the series. DSP is struggling so much so early into the game lmao... He's got a world of hurt coming with the endgame bosses.

[@jacoboalcaldebravo7316]

Still, they nerfed many later bosses. Take for example Radhan, a boss all the community complained about for being too aggressive and instakilling most players. Phil beated him after the patch in a single try when to most people it took at least 20 tries. I fought him again and he's much slower and a lot less aggresive, with much lower health and easier to dodge attacks. He didn't even killed all summons and i killed him without him going into the second phase. Phil has the luck of being slow as molasses.

[@Sylv3onYT]

1:07:45 "they don't put effort into improving their engine effort" - Certified DSP Moment

[@senjithegamer3829]

Dsp's weakness: DODGE!

[@totezmcgotez44]

Okay but it was hilarious that godrick sent that reverse wind thrust lolol i’ve never seen that happen

[@spooks4240]

Come on guys, give him a break. There was nothing he could do...

[@AdriftForWeeks]

I've never seen someone so uninterested in wanting to play and learn something. but he knows this is his 2022 cashcow.

[@leonkennedylk18]

Phil just doesnt like playing games. The very first thing about maybe having to come back to some encounters is really just him whining he cant do it and be done with it. He isnt having fun, he just wants the game to make those donations until the next big release and he can move on.

[@vwabi]

15:55 it doesn't look delayed to me, looks completely playable and fair. It really seems like he's exaggerating by releasing his finger so far away from the controller, so he can claim "I have to release, wait, and then it rolls" - It doesn't matter how quick or far you move your finger, the roll comes out the same.

[@LordTyrone1989]

So, I just started on a Bloodhound Knight build, kicking tons of ass early game with the Bloodhound's Fang. Now Phil getting slaughtered while wielding it is even more hilarious.

[@LordTyrone1989]

Perhaps if Phil smithed the Bloodhound's Fang, used its skill more, and thought to buff it with greases to exploit boss weaknesses, he'd be having a much easier time like I've been.

[@secretminty6398]

​@@LordTyrone1989I don't think you can grease the bloodhound's fang because it's a somber weapon

[@LordTyrone1989]

@@secretminty6398 Actually, you can. I tried it.

[@secretminty6398]

@@LordTyrone1989 oh, shit. Learn something new every day. Cheers, mate.

[@calthepal312]

why yes, I will laugh at Phil for sprinting through all the enemies despite the fact that is exactly what I do every time.

[@Benny-Arts]

When Phil expects the character to already be mid swing and roll by the time his finger leaves the button 🤦 Windup animation = input delay

[@omega-death]

I'm on ng+,have beaten the scarlet rot queen twice,dual wield her sword(hand of Malenia),have pretty much 2 or more of every weapon(except serpant hunter,which I'm kinda upset about do to my OCD about wanting to dual wield anything,including sheilds)and atm am 421:56 hours in,on the only fromsoft game I have ever played,and the only problem I have is how on PS4 I wish there was more range on horse movement.like it's a tad hard on PS4(on mine anyway,which could be my controller tbh)to walk while on torrent, especially when trying to platform on torrent,for example,doing the rock jump from the minor erdtree up to frenzied flame village.but that is literally my only honest gripe about elden ring.its a fabulous game,input lag is practically none existent (that I can tell),and is the grandest adventure I've been on since final fantasy 10 (my favorite game that I play through multiple times a year,every year),and has none of the problems dsp says.usually I give him the benefit of the doubt,but on this particular gripe,I believe he's just making excuses and trying to do things he is not any where near leveled for.elden ring can not be played properly without at the very least SOME level grinding,either in the many side caves, catacombs,evergaol's,roaming enemies/mini bosses,one of the numerous "rune farms",like beastial sanctum area,and or mohg palace,ect., ect.if you start elden ring thinking minimal grinding isn't at the very least needed some,then elden ring isn't for you.so on this one,I'll say Phil needs to level and or get gud.great video,laughed my ass off,as usual,keep it up,✌️👍

[@Sufyan_Aljamal]

First I'd like to thank you for the detailed comment about your experience with the game. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I think level grinding would happen naturally in the game meaning you don't have to plan it out in order to fight specific boss; Let's talk about Crucible Knight (the one you fight in Evergaol) the question here can you beat that boss at level 1 if you're dedicated (git gud)enough? I saw people beat Malenia at level 1 so I'm assuming that can be true for Crucible Knight. Now I'm not saying the player shouldn't level up, but they should level up enough to make that experience balanced(for souls-like game),sadly this game doesn't offer a way to "deposit levels" for those who missed a location and now they're overleveled for it and therefore can't experience the intended way to fight in there(tell me if you've experienced that yourself as someone who is on NG+),I think adding some sort of level recommendation on the map for those who want to fight everything at the recommended level would be a giant help. The player can control how many levels they would gain after all, hence some people fought Malenia at level 1 and others at level 150+(like DSP), can I compare those two experiences as viewer just because they share the same source(the game)? I think not, because that's the only similarity they have, it'd be like comparing a volleyball player to basketball player just because they share a common thing(they're using a ball for playing). Elden Ring gives the player variety of choices to go for, you can be from a character without armor who can punch bare handed enemies to death to the most broken build with the heaviest armor +being overleveled, etc. Again, can I compare any of those experiences to each other ?No, those players indeed played Elden Ring, fought the same bosses and got the same items, etc. ,but the experience those people had with the game is so different from each other to the point they only share those things. Secondly As for the horse, yeah, it's not precise(more noticeable when you're trying to pickup items),but it's not hindering the fights.

[@omega-death]

@@Sufyan_Aljamal yes,crucible night is very do-able at the level Phil was attempting,but as a melee,at that level,most players probably wouldn't get it done,at least I know I wouldn't put my self through that knowing I can do it later,and not ruin my enjoyment so early in the game.im sure I could do it at that lev l,if I really wanted to,but it would take great effort,I'm not ashamed to admit.besides leveling till you can survive crucible's many double hits,that fight is actually meant to be used to teach the parry mechanic.which while parry,on say the buckler shield, wouldn't take as long to beat compared to a level one player,it would still take a fair amount of practice to beat that way.both strategies are for sure viable,for me parry isn't a mechanic I'm totally trash at pulling off I'm still not consistent enough to rely on it,for that fight,at Phil's level when he tried.i used a quality build ,mostly balanced stats,the demi-human queen staff and glintstone to beat him.when I did it in my first play through at around level 40-ish(tbh I can't remember the exact level but it was close to 40).i just kept my distance,and when he swung his sword or shield I would do a 2 hit with glintstone,then move back to keep out his range.the dragon tail and dragon dive,those just have to be dodged,no way around that,do to how hard they hit especially that early in the game.but,that's just one of many strats that people can use to beat him,and that was the only time I didn't use a katana to beat a boss,but that's what it took for me at that level,and I was happy even if I didn't use my preferred weapon.the main thing I see alot of streamers,refusing to use summons,or anything that makes the game any easier,do to them being souls games veterans or at least having played multiple fromsoft games,which I don't get tbh.while elden ring is a fromsoft game and is alot like the demon/souls series,it's a different game,meant to be played different.so I get that they being souls vets,feel like it has to be played like demon/dark souls,but no matter how similar it is to older fromsoft games,elden ring is by no means demon/dark souls,and isn't meant to only be played like people did them.iys easy to see that's the truth with all the options fromsoft put in elden ring,they just didn't intend for it to ONLY be played like that.but,it doesn't require excessive grinding either,just doing as much of the limgrave areas,caves,catacombs,area bosses,ect, ect,will get you set up nicely to take on the lakes area,without any grinding.you can make the game trivial to a point by grinding,and grinding to serious levels,pretty early on is easy to do because of the open world being so open.but it's not at all a must.the game gives you more than enough runes,gear, weapon's,ashes,and magics to overcome the game if you follow the grace sites that guide you,without any focused grinding,though if you go from one area to another and theres a vast difference in difficulty,then just come back to it later.theres far to much to do than to just try to beat everything you encounter,the s cond you encounter it.and I totally believe a simple level suggestion for each cave, catacomb,evergaol,area boss,ect ect would do wonders for alot of people's enjoyment of the game.elden ring is in my top 5 favorite games,and while I see it as a complete masterpiece,that doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy some qol additions,like level suggestion.no matter how great any game is,there's no such thing as a perfect game,for me elden ring is very close to perfect the way it is,but I'm not everyone,and even I can see where your suggestions(like level suggestion,and some torrent tinkering)would make it even better,even for me,than it already is.

[@smward87]

11:23 woah there Phil. Slow down. You don't have a build to change. You just put points into random stats with no thought.

[@undeathstroke7168]

the only input delay is from his brain to his fingers

[@secretminty6398]

WOO GODRICK GETS SOMEONE TO COWER GOOD SHIT, ARM MAN

[@5TailFox]

When I first saw the little cartoon snake in the thumbnail, I was like "No way Phil's sorry ass made it that far, that fast, in this game.." But now, I understand why you put it there. 😏

[@Sufyan_Aljamal]

Oh you mean that snake? that's going to be a more epic snake when DSP fights him.

[@jacoboalcaldebravo7316]

@@Sufyan_Aljamal They nerfed Radhan and i kinda expect Rykard to have gotten nerfed as well. It will be sad for Phil to not get wrecked by bosses that were terribly hard on release.

[@Sufyan_Aljamal]

@@jacoboalcaldebravo7316 Yeah I watched that section out of curiosity ,now the question has Malenia also been nerfed?

[@jacoboalcaldebravo7316]

@@Sufyan_Aljamal I haven't reached her on my second game, but for what people tell, she hasn't gotten nerfed and her moves and attacks are still broken as hell.

[@Sufyan_Aljamal]

@@jacoboalcaldebravo7316 Finally DSP can have an actual challenge in this game(assuming she wont be nerfed by the time DSP fights her).

[@JarlUlfric]

43:44 in all honesty that was a shit move like wtf.

[@npcunknown9877]

these are basically 10% exploration 90% fails at boss fights, with 100% bs from dsp

[@TheDUDE101GOOD]

i mean he has all the time in the world to grind.

[@Soydrinker999]

15:46, yeh thats not input delay, its called swinging a heavy fucking weapon

[@Deus35]

Thanks for everything you do

[@jpe5133]

Yes part 3! Thank you!

[@deepergodeeper7618]

lol he has NO input delay when he was "proving" it lol he was rolling as soon as he pressed the button

[@tommysanchez4757]

so does phil think nobody else can dodge since theres input delay? Surely if its the input delays fault then theres no way anyone else dodges more than phil?

[@vetreas366]

There are issues with timing stemming from game performance. Sometimes it's delay with the inputs, other times it's issues with dropped frames or input. It can happen though I suspect it can happen more on PC since it's not a great port and the greater variance in build leads to more varied performance outcomes. But yeah, he's definitely confusing the animation windup with input delay most of the time.

[@sinjin8576]

Took me 4 tries to beat Margit he was the 2nd most fun boss I've found so far coming right in after Godrick who was the most metal boss I've ever seen.

[@GothicXlightning]

i would have Margit on my first try but i felt off the Bridge like an idiot trying to avoid all his Nonsense sweep Attacks XD But i had him on second try he really is Not that hard at all, many other bosses are much punishing and broken even.. but i do like Margit design he really is a very fun enemy

[@zsomborbudai7473]

Morgott is the most fun and Rykard. Malenia cool as hell fight is absolute hell but not in the fun ways.

[@sinjin8576]

@@zsomborbudai7473 reminds me of when I fought Malikath. That fight was really really cool but I'd rather not ever do it again.

[@orichumo]

the delay thing is such a lame excuse, if anything this game bosses always take longer than you think to actually hit you, if anything you need and can react to everything

[@UKMessi1]

27:44 that was nice lol

[@somethingguy912]

You know I understand why he had that philosophy of not wanting to wuss out on a boss that he can't beat, but only in the respect of other Dark Souls games. Here, it just doesn't make sense, and you would think he would understand that given that it's a open world game, yet he frantically and stubbornly holds onto the idea that he needs to keep beating at a boss until the heat death of the universe. I have to wonder if he does this because of his poor performance in the other souls games where he would just grind off cam until he could cheese the boss that way?

[@jacoboalcaldebravo7316]

There is people that just try to beat the game defeating the least amount of bosses possible. You can reach Leyndell beating only 4 and after that, all that come after are mandatory.

[@somethingguy912]

@@jacoboalcaldebravo7316 yeah I'm sure people do that, but they probably did it after having gone through the game organically in it's entirety. Just that how DSP is going through it 'is' organic, but utterly insane.

[@jacoboalcaldebravo7316]

@@somethingguy912 I mean, we all know the Streamchat will tell him to do X or Y or whatever. In Phil's playthrough there is nothing organic so long streamchat is there to rescue him from his own poor eyesight (he needs glasses) and his bugged short term memory.

[@crazycat58]

I've never seen anyone before or since with the braindead dodging senses that Phil has. With the Ulcerated Tree Spirit, as long as you dodge on time and stay by his belly you'll be fine. However Phil just blocks like he has the endurance for it...

[@MrThelonicus]

your brain is delayed, dsp - no dev can fix that. You know, shit like 18:35 - he can never be wrong

[@dumbfoundedkiryu9468]

I love how he doesn't realize there's a difference with natural grinding by progress and grinding just to over level. No one cares if you do the former

[@hyper-night-parade6220]

Man it was sad seeing Phil just ping the Grafted Scion in the castle with crossbow bolts from a doorway, I spent a good hour fighting and deleting and making new characters to kill the one at the very start of the game where you have no healing and I managed to do it. Now I've done it so much the Grafted Scion enemy is super fun and easy to roll and exploit its openings since I'm so comfortable with the fight. Thats DSP for ya tho just taking the path of least resistance and never absorbing any information of any kind.

[@craigcollins7113]

I don’t blame him honestly. If he dies there he has to go back to the last site of grace, which is a ways away. I’d probably take the safe option if it’s available then try to turn it into a tedious learning lesson myself in that situation and learn the enemy better at a more convenient location

[@hyper-night-parade6220]

@@craigcollins7113 Eh fair enough but there is a shortcut elevator in that room that leads to a grace and I'm almost certain his chat would have if not did tell him that.

[@FreddyChoppins]

I'm 50 hours into Elden Ring and I haven't even thought a fraction of the excuses or complaints Phil throws out every minute. The roll's delayed, I got cheated, I can't see, the camera's shit, I jumped and the game said I didn't jump, it's just an unending list of whining and crying about things that are FromSoft staples at this point that anybody who's played as many FromSoft games as Phil has should be more than used to by now. This game is amazing and sure it has some flaws and things I could nitpick about it but he clearly hated the game and just played it because it's what would get him the most views/money.

[@ernestogonzalez2841]

Wait didn't he grind out the hell out of bloodborne on his first playthrough? Now he wants to "learn the patterns"?

[@PunkZombie1300]

"Grinded" is a bit of an understatement. I think he was BL90 by Amelia or some shit. Though he was caught duping when he said he was grinding in his original DeS run, so he was almost definitely duping while claiming he was grinding.

[@DR.SLAMMER]

The only semi-valid complaint DSP(which he incorrectly calls "input delay") has in regards to dodging is that the input queue is entirely too loose. Been plenty of times where I've messed up a dodge, got hit, then the dodge I screwed up happens after the stagger. Still, it's amazing that he's played every soulsborne game and hasn't figured out queued inputs.

[@DR.SLAMMER]

I haven't tried any katanas in my first or 2nd(current) playthrough, but that sounds more like there's a "dead zone" that activates during the startup frames to prevent unwanted inputs being queued by potential mis-inputs/mashing. But I'll try out the scenario you've presented to better understand your point next time I play.

[@Abedeuss]

Yeah, the only way I found to "clear" the input buffer is to hold down the dodge/sprint button after getting up, so the game doesn't try to dodge after I get up by mistake.

[@schnappicrocodil9249]

@@drsyndrome3486 You've said this before. It didn't make sense then, it doesn't make sense now. Unsheathe has a very specific reset point after the attack so that you cant just spam it. You have to get through the attack animation first then sheath again and reset to attack again.

[@davontihoward9038]

Phil is actually doing pretty well if you ask me

[@RobertTarlow]

Doing pretty well? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Dende8981]

Is his brain really processing slower, what happens on screen? Where does he see any delay?

[@Gorton]

43:42 beautiful

[@COREcasual]

He said “learning the patterns” of bosses…he never learns any patterns…he just spams dodge and spams jump attacks on every enemy