This is not the Star-spangled Banner

The Flag of the United State of America is one of the most recognisable things on Planet Earth (and also the moon). But when people call the flag “the Star-spangled banner” that is not quite right.
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[@lucasrivera8706]

Why are we letting a British dude tell us what our flag is?

[@ConsumptiveSoul]

Probably Just mad they couldn’t beat us

[@keithberns5]

Exactly

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

@@ConsumptiveSoulyep they still mad at being 0-2

[@InnocentGabe]

my pronouns are U/S/A

[@TheKhanGD]

@@InnocentGabeMINE ARE ‘MERICA/FLORIDA/FREEDOM

[@Person-ng5hp]

It's a banner, and it's got a spangled star pattern. Star-spangled banner lol

[@Nerobyrne]

Isn't it weird that the US anthem is about a flag and not the country?

[@mccw1203]

@@Nerobyrne technically it's about a battle and the bravery of the men of the fort who kept picking the flag back up as they kept getting bombarded and killed by the british ship The reason why was that the writer of the song was imprisoned on the ship and was told by the British that if the flag was lowered then they would assume the fort had surrendered but they kept raising it every time it was knocked down.

[@Nerobyrne]

@@mccw1203 okay, that's a cool song but a weird national anthem ^^

[@mccw1203]

@@Nerobyrne why not though it shows the tenacity of the American people even as the building crumbles around us we won't cower and surrender instead we stand and fight.

[@trevorreid9142]

@@Nerobyrne it’s more badass. The typical national anthem is about the country in times of peace, this one is about a time of war. For a country birthed from the fires of overthrowing the most powerful military in the world at the time it’s pretty fitting

[@Robertz1986]

While the US flag looks different today, note that our flag since the beginning of the republic automatically changes each time a new state is added. A new star is added for each member state, and originally they tried doing that with the stripes, but it was a problem, so we moved it back to 13, one for each original colony. So it is organically the same flag, though its appearance is obviously different. Our current flag is different than it was in WWII, which is different from the Spanish American War, which is different than the Civil War, which is different than the War of 1812, which is different than the Revolution. It is all the Star Spangled Banner though.

[@MrsShocoTaco]

Yep. Gotta love when people just make up random bs to get clicks

[@brandonfurr7080]

Flag history and tradition is really amazing and sadly almost completely disrespected and forgotten these days...

[@wyatttots3544]

Facts

[@Maunico0809]

Well actually it's changes the July 4th after the states admission into the Union.

[@brandonfurr7080]

@@Maunico0809 that's really interesting

[@josep754]

God, imagine 50 stripes on the flag

[@mikehilbert9349]

Pinstriped spangled banner

[@nuffsaid8706]

Amen 🙏

[@shyryTsr2k]

it would be long af. Isn't the swiss flag a square and not a rectangle though like most other nations?

[@JESUS_SAVES1234]

@@shyryTsr2k”Yes”

[@alexmeyer546]

It’s still the star spangled banner

[@newsreelhistory2237]

True. I just mean the star-spangled banner from the anthem is a very different one from the one we have now. But it's hard to fit that nuance into the title.

[@ValkyRiver]

@@newsreelhistory2237 and I combined it with Chopin’s wrong note Étude. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXjKdplom6eff7M

[@jaystreet46]

@@newsreelhistory2237 I would call it slightly different…

[@Train115]

​@@newsreelhistory2237 it's basically the same flag, just to fit the amount of states at the time and the current flag rules.

[@Undomaranel]

​@@newsreelhistory2237 How about "This is NOT the original SSB" or "THE SSB? Think again!" or even "This flag is a Pokémon! It keeps evolving!"

[@fernandoamy8278]

The American flag has changed over the years to accommodate additional states. They are all called "The Star Spangeled Banner."

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

Unless the stars are in a pattern that isn’t spangled. Like the Ross flag

[@balleater1538]

Bro has never heard of a disambiguation

[@melaniehickey236]

No, the name has been co-opted to mean any US flag now.

[@Sahlokniir986]

So the US flag isn’t the US flag, good reasoning

[@newsreelhistory2237]

It's not that its not the US flag, its just that the "star spangeled banner" from the anthem is different to the one we have today.

[@tuggaonthehudson]

@@newsreelhistory2237 Yes it is, the flag always had the nickname of the Star Spangled Banner.

[@baltoflyer7503]

@@newsreelhistory2237 I don't think anyone thought the flag from the song had 50 stars on it, but contrary to the literal first sentence of your video, the modern US flag *is* the star spangled banner, along with all the previous US flags. Your video was interesting, I personally didn't know they added stripes too at the beginning, but starting your video with a lie, or something that is blatantly false degrades the rest of the video.

[@catminttcgu207]

Me: oh, what countries' flag could it be based on? Him: Just the US flag but old loloolololo

[@crayonchomper1180]

I think I understand the reasoning, it's like how Windows 3.1 isn't Windows 10

[@MrsShocoTaco]

Wrong. That was the original, they are all the Star Spangled Banner.

[@robertphelps1574]

In another song Francis Scott wrote in 1805 called When the warrior returns he calls the flag The Star Spangled Flag

[@rustomkanishka]

We need to talk about the bit in the anthem that no one sings. Fun times.

[@danjames5552]

He never wrote the star spangled banner , he just wrote the words . It used to be a old English drinking song and he just changed the words .

[@thomasmoore5949]

The words are the song!

[@danjames5552]

@@thomasmoore5949 don't talk rot . It's common knowledge that they changed the words to the English drinking song . You even did it with the British national anthem and called it something else 😂.

[@MrsShocoTaco]

He didn't write the tune but he did write the Star Spangled Banner as a poem. To say he didn't write it because he didn't pen the tune is disingenuous. Throughout history, tunes have been reused in different songs, just as was pointed out above with the British anthem tune.

[@danjames5552]

@@MrsShocoTaco the British anthem was wrote as the anthem and the words was changed after . And guess who changed the words 😂

[@MrsShocoTaco]

@@danjames5552 Yes, and? As I stated above, tunes are often reused, it's nothing new or out of the ordinary. Also, we've never denied it. You seem oddly upset by it all

[@hudsonylin]

I disagree... Just because the first US flag is called the US flag doesn't mean this one ain't called that right? Doesn't that mean the name could probably be inherited. I'm not very familiar with the laws and technicalities, but I must say that based on the evidence you've presented to us it seems that the 50 star flag could still be called "the star spangled banner". So that's what I think our flag could be called 🇺🇲

[@newsreelhistory2237]

It's more in reference to the fact that the flag referred to in the anthem "the star-spangled banner" is so different to how a modern US flag looks today and the story behind both.

[@hudsonylin]

@@newsreelhistory2237 Ooh, okay, I think I get what you mean. Thanks for clarifying! Want to just let you know that I didn't mean you short wasn't great and information, but just was a bit confused by that part.

[@newsreelhistory2237]

@@hudsonylin No problem! Constructive criticism is always welcome, and yeah the shorts format means things are very condensed.

[@edgarortiz-zd6kn]

Thank you!!! I kept telling people the national anthem wasn't even recognized by many Americans during world War 2, especially most vets of that war and ww1.

[@sweetirani20]

While the us flag looks different today note that our flag since the beginning of the republic automatically changes each time a new stat is afded

[@benjaminbrewer2569]

Imagine in some distant future, a United States space ship getting caught in the gravity well of a black hole. The ship explodes as it crosses the event horizon. The only item left outside the black hole is a tool bent almost beyond recognition. A star mangled spanner.

[@phantasydragon696]

People also don't know, Mr. Key wrote it as a poem from a brig on a British boat that was shooting at the fort. He watched through a port hole and as he watched through the night and cannon fire he saw that the flag had stayed up. A gruesome party of the story was in the fort to keep the flag standing soldiers would willingly hold the pole straight, while cannon fire shot around them and they would use the dead bodies as a base to keep it up as well.

[@catherinegilles6408]

Interesting. Thank you for the info.😊

[@jackdupont1883]

According to the US Flag code which is advisory Federal Law. All past versions of the flag of the United States are given the same treatment and respect as the current version.

[@alanthomas4442]

Someone in the comments mentioned that the Star Spangled Banner was an English drinking song and guess what? He is CORRECT! my grandfather sang it at football matches in the 1920's sorry 🇺🇸

[@garrysmith1029]

No the melody is but the lyrics are original

[@alanthomas4442]

@@garrysmith1029 The lyrics were changed to the ones you have now, the same as our National anthem. Did they just hum it in the pubs originally?

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

My Country Tis Of Thee, uses the melody of God Save The King, which is the best middle finger to the British 🖕🏻🇬🇧

[@AMysteryGhost]

And whats crazier is that The Star Spangled banner is not was key even named the poem. its called "defense of fort mchenry"

[@fksinfofrfr]

Oooo tysm

[@Mystic-j41776]

Yeah, there’s another name for it: Old Glory.

[@lazarussolomon3541]

I always called the modern us flag old glory.

[@RussellLarrabee]

Henry must have been amazed back then and what a song and story

[@renatacantore3684]

Thank you for your interesting presentation.🇺🇸

[@newsreelhistory2237]

Your welcome.

[@zacd6501]

The star spangled banner is the flag that represents America whatever form the flag takes. At the time it had 15 stars, now it has 50, it doesn’t make it any less a star spangled banner

[@pdrphil8159]

Its a banner , spangled with stars . It was our flag & is our flag. It has had stripes & stars added, but nonetheless , it is our flag

[@locke8628]

You think the American flag would look like a barcode today if stripes kept being added?

[@Drod196]

Thats like saying a chameleon is not the same once it changes color. The American flag is the Star spangled banner no matter how many stars. It changes depending on the number of states.

[@me_a_person]

u tryin' to take away muh FREEDOM?!?!?!?!??!111!! RAAAAAAAAAHHH

[@ConsumptiveSoul]

Yes, the American flag may look different because each Star represents a state added its still the same one since 1776

[@richw6656]

The star spangled banner that is sang before sports games is only 1/4 of the whole poem. They shorten it for radio and TV broadcast reasons is the rumor

[@garrysmith1029]

I wouldn't doubt it tbh

[@IONATVS]

Singing only the first verse of the Star-Spangled Banner poem has been the norm even before radio broadcasts were common and TV broadcasts existed. And most traditional songs have more verses than are normally sung, (The Battle Hymn of the Republic, for instance, has 6 official verses, of which the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th are most commonly sung) it’s part of why verses exist-to be natural stopping points so you can adapt the length to the situation. You could even say that while the official US Code just says “The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem” the composition they are referring to is the FIRST VERSE of the song/first stanza of the poem, and that verse, while not the entire poem or song, is the entire Anthem. There has in the past been a-not super popular, but still extant-push to make the national anthem the SECOND verse, because it says more about what Mr. Key loves and admires about the US, not just narratively describing the situation.

[@colombo1195]

Imagine being British

[@El_rinconcito]

I have knew about this sense today because we were talking about it in music because we were listening to songs about this for the Veterans Day. And yeah we listen to the song first by the way I am in second grade.

[@andrew1898]

Check out Ronald Regans breakdown on this during one of his speeches. It's an amazing tale that will make you feel Proud to be American.

[@DawgBreff]

Like how people call the British flag the Union Jack, when it isn't

[@Cloudwalk9]

Pedantic as hell, but actually didn't know that about the stripes.

[@slartibartfast8960]

our current flag is called old glory. the star spangled banner is the flag that flew of fort McHenry

[@andriyandreyko8177]

You are mistaken. Old Glory is flag with 48 stars. Its still the longest serving of all American flags.

[@fingergunaddict]

@@andriyandreyko8177 the flag with 48 stars served from 1912 to 1959, 47 years. the 50 star flag served from 1960 to today, it's 2022, thats 62 years.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Thank you!

[@MrsShocoTaco]

He's wrong.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

@@MrsShocoTaco oh got it

[@MrsShocoTaco]

@@robertortiz-wilson1588 Yeah, that's just where our flag got its nickname of the Star Spangled Banner

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

@@MrsShocoTaco it makes sense as the name for every subsequent American flag, while also being the title of the flag for which it was first coined for.

[@tomwilson4778]

No redcoat is going to lecture me about my SSB! Kidding 😀 this is actually interesting.

[@luisfilipe2023]

Good thing they didn’t keep adding stripes

[@stevep5408]

I'd still vote for America the Beautiful as our national anthem and the turkey as our national bird!

[@bobbylee2853]

Eating turkeys would be ill eagle.

[@miklosernoehazy8678]

...why not?... ...we have a turkey as our national leader...

[@rileypeterson6830]

British opinion detected...rejected

[@TheKhanGD]

My country tiss of thee Sweet land of lib-er-ty Of thee I sing Land where my fath-ers died Land of thy pil-grims pride From ev-ery mountain side Let free-dom ring

[@tatianatanishanicolettepor7199]

Now It’s A Anthem

[@georgepoggington4896]

"many americans call it the star spangled banner." I have never heard an american call it this.

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

I’m an American we call it the Star Spangled Banner, unofficially called the “stars and stripes”

[@robertdeen8741]

As a Canadian may I say you folks have an outstanding anthem. It's inspiring. I hate to say it, but ours is boring in comparison. I know Keys wrote the lyrics, but who wrote the music? I would guess Sousa. I used to have a postcard with the banner on it, or should I say, what's left of it after the British shot about half of it away. What impressed me is how large it is. There were people standing in front of it and the wall behind it was painted to fill the missing parts. Without those people standing there, one would have no idea how large it was. Talk about a national treasure. It must rate right up there with the Liberty Bell.

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

the Liberty Bell is a flawed icon. Its been co-opted by so many different groups that try to rally support by using its image and try to interpret the message of why the bell is cracked and it just honestly ruined the image of the bell to a lot of people, plus you have a insurance company that uses the image of the bell and it’s like I don’t want to think of being forced to pay car insurance while looking at a symbol of liberty 😂 The flag is much more symbolic as it is a direct tie to the conflict and was the flag mentioned so reverently in the anthem.

[@adam_p99]

Fact: The guy who wrote the song was British. Note this guy in the video wrote the lyrics. He was a slave trader.

[@user-dz3rr9rx7k]

Battle of Baltimore

[@skipads5141]

Seeing as "star spangled banner" is merely a description of the U.S. flag spangled with stars, that's just someone "discovering" the flag was lo and behold different 210 years ago and attempting pedantry.

[@ACORAL02]

Its still the star spangled banner.

[@Jessie_0844]

There's an alternative timeline where the flag of the US has 50 stripes

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

There’s an alternative timeline where the flag doesn’t have 50 stars and you can’t go to Virginia or points south without going through international customs, and California is part of Mexico and anything west of the Mississippi is still the frontier and Native American. I worked on such timeline once for school.

[@razortheonethelight7303]

I feel like the US would be cooler if we kept more things unofficial. Like they would be implied but not in law or on any paperwork. Like how religion and Language is.

[@nickolasnaula3759]

HISTORY

[@ScottishCeli]

I personally do not call the US flag the Star Spangled Banner. My was a D-day survivor who was later injured in France and placed in a POW hospital and camp. He was missing for 9 days. Years later, after getting back to the Allied side he was shipped home. He married, had 4 children, and never talked about the war again. On the 50th anniversary of D-day our youngest daughter asked if she could call him and talk about WWII. I told her yes so she did and he told her everything. He was deployed in either the 2nd or 3rd wave. He and his fellow soldiers walked to shore on the debris and bodies of soldiers who had drowned due to the weight of their packs and that they had disembarked too far out. My dad lived to see the D-day Memorial built outside Bedford, VA. In the area where he was born and raised. My dad was VERY patriotic and taught us to be also.

[@czechball6641]

I’ve seen the actual flag from the war of 1812. It’s at the Smithsonian United States History Museum.

[@jaystreet46]

Semantics. It’s the same flag in spirit

[@James-wv3hx]

The songs melody came from an old English drinking song.

[@richdad360]

In the third verse, Key had a special message for the enslaved people who had dared to fight for freedom-we will pursue you to get revenge: No refuge could save the hireling and slave. from the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave.

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

That’s completely false you’ve cut out almost the entire stanza

[@Julsran]

Francis Scott Key doesn't look the same as he did when the wrote the verse, so is he still Frances Scott Key even though he's dead?

[@user-ju4uz5ip2k]

Still our flag

[@polandull]

this is like saying that the union jack isn't the union jack because the union jack we all talk about isnt the original one that only had england and scotland

[@newsreelhistory2237]

Well, technically, it's only the Union jack when it's flown at sea like a naval jack. Otherwise, it's the union flag. But yes, I was being pedantic.

[@RobertWWD]

I read it’s at the National Museum of American History in Washington, DC. Is that accurate?

[@i-churchcafe9136]

Yeah... WE GREW!!! that is like taking a photo of me today and saying, "THIS IS NOT RICK..... " and then showing one of my baby photos and saying "THIS IS THE REAL RICK" It does NOT change the fact that THE US FLAG OF TODAY REPRESENTS THE SAME COUNTRY AS IT DID BACK THEN!

[@brittond8548]

I know that because I learned that from school that Francisco got a key made the Star-Spangled Banner

[@MTTT1234]

With 50 states today, the US flag would look like a barcode.

[@dogol284]

you make me realize why the American Revolution needed to happen

[@abhi5504]

Why

[@ConsumptiveSoul]

@@abhi5504because we had British people to tell us how to say stuff

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

@@abhi5504because the British with their “superior intellect” teaching us our own history 😂

[@TheRealNormanBates]

(Sees the tiny soldier by flag) That’s one big flag.

[@Ruiluth]

Same flag, different design. Big deal.

[@kirilvelinov7774]

Neon Empire=Seychelles 2.0😂

[@davidr1037]

Very cool

[@i20coyote85]

I mean...... it is, just updated.....that's still the star spangled banner

[@oraveczkristof1828]

It still fits the description nevertheless

[@jademoon7938]

It's still a banner spangled with stars so I think we can let this one fly lol

[@philip1557]

It it IS the star Spangled Banner just with more Stars.

[@Flamin-Gamin]

Dudw its old glory

[@tibbers3755]

Ive never heard an american refer to the flag as a star spangled banner.

[@rosesilveira344]

Semantics. It's still our flag, the Star Spangled Banner

[@daitengainey1439]

Dude this is to the British person in the video what you said there is literally offensive to me it's literally the same thing Have you heard of a flag changing over time when it adds a new region to the country when the United States added a new state it added another star too which changes the flag And at the beginning it did not have 15 stars and stripes It had 13 stars and stripes

[@sonicmeerkat]

It's literally the same flag lol, just updated over time as states were added lol

[@Mediumtiercommenter]

Lmao get your colony back

[@panzerlord2486]

It’s not the star spangled banner…it’s the star spangled banner.

[@michiganporter]

The 13 parts of Osiris red for the per het and white for the per tsar. Blue for the war crown and the pentagram for their god. It's everywhere in plain sight.

[@412StepUp]

the official name for the American flag is “old glory”.

[@scottbivins4758]

Yeah America's had a few flags over time the same goes for the south in 1860's during the civil war 😂 I have noticed that about my great country that i so much love

[@swirledworld340]

so we added to the flag... our flag is still the star spangled banner as its a banner spangled with stars 🥴

[@robhaythorne4464]

It's a flag, a grand old flag.

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

It’s a banner, that is spangled with stars, it’s the Star Spangled Banner, these British attempts to gaslight Americans won’t work lol

[@Rhett_Kierbow]

But it’s still the star spangled banner all that happens is it got more stars

[@rafaeltorresdemelo5433]

I thought that the first national anthem is MY COUNTRY TIS OF THEE , but I´m not american , so I´m not sure

[@charlesking2698]

It was not the battle of Baltimore, it was the battle of fort mchemry

[@timmcdowell4092]

It was part of the battle of Baltimore. Fought by british naval and the Americans at Fort McHenry. Made that tour. God bless the hundreds of Americans who gave their lives holding up the flag.

[@hyperr1092]

Idk what he's on about, they are all the star spangled banner. There's just different versions. Same thing goes for the union jack, there are different versions of it but it was still the union jack.

[@Lulukeket44]

I knew something was wrong with that flag no wonder the people just ain't right😅

[@Ciara_Foxx]

I've lived in the United states my whole life and have never heard it called that. I've heard stars and stripes, but the banner is the song

[@nipplecream3099]

bruh what? its official name is the Star Spangled Banner how long have you been alive

[@Distinguished_Peinguin]

Did he say the battle of Voldemort from Harry Potter

[@taps8781]

TeChNiCaLlY..

[@Keebee225]

Not the foreign guy telling us about America lol