This is Still the Gold Standard for GT Racing Sims

[@PhantomMark]

I was on the team that made these games, Simbin, the only pity was the team split during the production of this game (GT2)......A majority of the team split to form "Blimey" and work on other things including that Ferrari game and PC1 / PC2 etc, I remained with "Simbin" to work on the rest of the titles right up to RaceRoom, along with a handful of others. Was a real shame to see how things shook out in the end. GTR2 was the most complete title, that is what made it unique and so special for so many years IMO.

[@madhaz3359]

I played this when it was released , right or wrong I still compare all other sims to it . Amazing game!! Hands down this feels better than ACC

[@shovas]

Do you still play GTR2? Some of us are keeping it alive on discord and private forums. We've got dxvk, reshade, vr, real weather, etc. It's great these days.

[@madhaz3359]

@@shovas I would be more than happy to try that again after so many years!

[@iKR-iKeysRacing]

Hello from Monza 👋 You all did an incredible job, given SW and HW technology available back then. I still play it today together with its vintage-nemesis that is PnG. But all that today we may discuss on ACC, iR, AMS2 and so on... it's been possible thanks to the "way" you built up for GTR2 😉❤️‍🔥🔝 THANK YOU. Marco Lazzari [iKR]🙏

[@maxleitschuh7076]

Prime Simbin was as good as it gets for racing devs. GTR, GTL, and GTR2 were all amazing for their time. We can all have our opinions about certain people in that team, but you guys produced some outstanding stuff! It's shame it had to end.

[@shovas]

Always great to see a new GTR2 appreciation video, especially one recorded in high quality at GTR2's best visual fidelity. Thanks Mike!

[@jeracerx]

One of the coolest things this game does that to this day I've never seen another do, is that if you do championship mode, the grids per race are accurate to irl, with one-off entries are teams missing races depicted correctly.

[@SharDarksoul]

F1 challenge 99-02 had this feature too. You could even set the AI pitstops and retirements to be lap accurate.

[@thestrand11]

@jeracerx I see you! 😂❤

[@ruipaiva7701]

GTR2 started all for me . The pinnacle of simracing

[@theironwolf]

Same here :D

[@pokiou]

GTR, GTR2 and rFactor is where it was at and when i got into sim racing!!! greatest titles.

[@Dennis_510]

OG rFactor what a great game

[@marcohes3852]

​@@Dennis_510 Still use it alongside rf2 😊

[@somapapp2944]

2005 produced two of the (imo) best simulators of their respective nieche: RBR and GTR2. It's great to see both getting the love from the community they deserve. I still play AC the most, but if i want to do some GT racing, you know i'll boot up GTR2 instantly. Such a gem.

[@studlydudly]

I still have my boxed copy of this gem. The best AI I have raced against, analogue GT cars, no TC, no ABS, no excuses, the best offline racing Sim I have played.

[@marcusmiller8267]

Why is it that the older sims tend to be the most accurate in physics (AMS1, Assetto Corsa 1). I love how you feature single player racing. I often think single player racing mimics real life as opposed to the the maniacal racing you often get online. Thanks for another great video!

[@JoeGaffey]

My theory is that as the complexity of the various models (tyres, transmission, suspension etc) has increased and perhaps become less deterministic so too has the difficulty of combining them into a cohesive overall experience.

[@bernardoberner4]

Cus they were passion projects. Not focusing on reacher the widest possible audience or making tons of money

[@seebarry4068]

More real than real?

[@daminf1]

Simple code makes the best physics..

[@alex_lll]

Assetto Corsa 1? Nah

[@jonathanparle8429]

I still run SimBin's Race07 as my only race sim and have no desire whatsoever to change.

[@menacegtr]

Brings back so many happy memories and good times, many, many hours spent with GTR, GTR2, Race 07, GTR Evolution, all of them. Its were it all started. I will never forget these great sims. Look were its has got to now. Thanks Sim Bin for the memories.

[@XCougar85X]

Thanks for the video Mike. The GTR games are special to me. I remember when Toca 3 was big and then Simbin dropped the GTR demo. Lister Storm at Spa and i believe at some point also the Viper at Anderstorp. And it was incredible. The sound, oh man the sound was unlike anything else. And so was the driving. I considered myself quite good at racing, but i really had to relearn how to race in a proper sim. GTR and mainly GTR2 were also the first racing sims i played mostly online. GTR was a wet dream for someonw who loved the Viper GTS-R and GTR2 while less Vipers, it had the beautifull Saleen S-7R. Cars i loved watching the FIA GT series on TV. The games definetely had a great singleplayer bit too, and the full roster of the FIA GT series, as well as some absolutely fabulous and for simracing pretty obscure tracks like Brno, Enna Pergussa and Anderstorp that are absolute blasts to race on. As wel as being what i would say is probably the peak of GT racing was, before the infinitely more drivable but also much more boring GT3 cars started to take over. I just loved these big GT1/2 cars in FIA GT & ALMS. Was quite happy to see these cars being brought back to life in AC. Would love to see a remake of this game. RRE just didn't have that same feel to me with the limited F2P and lots of buyable content and lack of the big series licences. The only game that struck the same itch was ironically ACC with the GT3's :D But so many great memories from the GTR series. (Not to forget GTR Legends)

[@jamesrather1510]

I think what people love about this sim is the era in racing it represents as much as the actual gameplay. The cars were a lot more raw and analogue. It's pre-SRO, pre obsession with BOP, and with a lot more eclectic entrants (what ever happened to Lister?) GT3 cars today are far more aero dependant vs those days and have a lot more prototype in them in how you drive them

[@pet3580]

The music of this game was phenomenal. The graphics was way above any other sims back in 2006.

[@jamesrather1510]

Stephen Baystead did the soundtrack for PC1 and PC2 as well. It adds tremendously to the atmosphere and sense of occasion. Especially vs ACC's generic guitar loop.

[@TrackDayMedia]

GTR2 was my go to sim throughout university for me, and even right until 2019 when i got a PC that could handle more modern games. Most of my time woth GTR2 was actually with the Power and Glory mod which is utterly fantastic. I still boot it up pretty often. I even built a racing arcade cabinet for some older arcade games, but its running the PC i used to have GTR2 on and ive been intending to get GTR2 on there also, i think this video is the kick in the pants to finally do that. Same pc, same sim hardware (DFGT) i had back in the day. Should be good

[@kilotangosierra]

these old simbin games were just the best. the immersion and the interoperability with motec tools, was epic.

[@robertlee42770]

Let me just say this.. It's so wonderful to see a streamer running these older racing titles.. It seems like all anyone wants to talk about now-a-days is graphics. When did graphics overtake physics in the order of importance in our beloved racing sim titles?? RBR, GTR2, GTL and of course rFactor1.. 4 of the best racing sim titles around!!

[@AidanMillward]

GTR2 has the EPIC BTCC super touring mod that provides fun for the whole family

[@SimRacing604]

You told me about that when we did our podcast. I still need to track that down…

[@AidanMillward]

furinkazen. wixsite. com/furiracemods/frm-touring-cars Hopefully the link works in this comment thread. Just pull the spaces out 😅

[@avflashback8913]

Games like GTR2, RFactor, Race 07 prove that sim-racing never was about the graphics. It's all about physics , A.I and audio. The reason why Simbin's audio is so good is because Simbin is a Swedish games studio. Sweden is very big on audio production. Historically they have top level sound engineers in Music, TV and Radio, It's the same in games. Listen to the car audio in Dice's Rallisport Challenge 2 on the Xbox. It's easily the best on the system. It's funny to me how most sim-racers are desperate for classic race cars and race series in their modern sims, but hardly anybody wants to play or support a classic racing sim no matter how good it is. If more people played these racing sims then the online servers might be still working today.

[@BadWallaby]

GTR2 and LFS are the two sims I cant bring my self to send to the recycle bin lol

[@snappedbydan]

This was my main sim as a teenager. God it was hard on a keyboard.

[@theforkliftracer9656]

The RBR of GT racing, Great video Mike

[@dennisfriesen9105]

Hard fought battle!! ALL the way, your consistency was impressive going for position5 you ran four 127.3s consecutively Nice to see you in this gem again.

[@SimRacing604]

@@dennisfriesen9105 thanks so much!! This was a fun one to make

[@dennisfriesen9105]

@@SimRacing604 I could see that.

[@jpcarsmedia]

I have fond memories of GTR2. It is a complete product.

[@counterdebate]

Memory lane... I had a full head of hair in those days! 😂

[@thestrand11]

GTR2 is still The GOAT! Wish i could go back to the league days of 2006

A big part of the appeal for GTR2 is the cast of cars. There's so much variety, even within a make (the Wieth Ferrari 550 GTS laps sometimes seconds a lap slower than a Prodrive-made Ferrari 550 GT or a Italtecnica-built 550 Millenio), different tyres per team, even different interiors ! And great differences between the quasi-obsolete Porsche 993 (1993 and air-cooled !), the Vipers that had their heydays a few years back but were slowly receding,...and the "new generation" such as the Maserati MC12 or the Ferrari 575M. All are very different to drive, from the GT, the NGT, even the G2-G3 classes from the 24h of Spa. No BoP here, you can give yourself much more of a challenge by picking a "slow" car. Winning a race in a nearly 10-year old Porsche hits really different.

[@ronsmith6041]

Agree with you 100 percent, also the crewchief plug-in makes it even better. Heaps of mods also including Power and Glory

[@crabnix]

I also remember there being an rfactor plugin working with this game. Something along the lines of XD.dll or something I don't really remember. Greatly improved the QoL

[@theironwolf]

@@crabnix yes Crew Chief GTR2 Enhancements Plugin enables Real Feel Plugin in GTR2 and fixes some rF1 API issues so that GTR2 works with SimHub with no restrictions.

[@AdamsOlympia]

I've no idea how it ended up in my Steam library -- as I've never played it ... But great to hear it still holds up pretty well! I'll have to give it a spin once I get my new triple monitor Trak Racer rig setup.

[@mdo]

Spent so many hours racing in GTR2. Back then I didn't have a controller or steering wheel but I loved the game so much, I managed to get quite decent with just the keyboard. To this day I get shivers every time I go full throttle in the Saleen S7.

[@hondaboy_jim2514]

Spend a lot of hours racing single player, against my cousin, trying to beat each others lap times. I owend every gtr game. So much fun driving i had then. That's why i got hooked to sim racing

[@dada_dittrich]

every simracer should try this diamond

[@Copef1]

I agree with you Mike. GTR2 is the best GT sim ever made. I have owned almost everything that can be considered a racing sim since the mid 90's and as good as some of the others are, none of them are as complete as GTR2. I definitely have fond memories of the races I had with it.

[@Skumtomten1]

GTR2 is a great sim, but its also a great game. Modern "games" are fantastics sims, but not great games. I wish we could get the best of both worlds some day.

[@CarltonMelson]

I haven't played GTR2 since I got my new wheel a few years ago. I love this sim and I agree with you about it. This is the sim all others are based on. Now I'm gonna have to break it out.

[@mortythealien2783]

gtr2 contents with ams1 physics would be a nice thing.

[@shovas]

You might like the Get Real Physics mod on Overtake

[@blazzingsaddles]

I was literally thinking about GTR/2 minutes ago. I love it, and have played it for years, I even put a how to guide to restore the Porsche & Ferrari liveries on Steam. Absolute classic and still looks really good

[@madhaz3359]

I played this when it was released , right or wrong I still compare all other sims to it . Amazing game!! Hands down this feels better than ACC.

[@L3RK]

It also has the best iterations of my 2 all time favorite racing cars; the Gillet Vertigo Streiff and the Lister Storm. And tracks you just don't see anymore like Brno, Oschersleben, Anderstorp, Enna-Pergusa, etc.

[@322tor]

GTR2, RBR, GT Legends were the best in my opinion.

[@jesuisFORTIO]

I remember when i started in simracing my team at the time (Ghostspeed, very sucesseful at FSR at the time) we did a 24h race in spa, it was 3 servers, 60 or 80 cars. every 3 hours everyone changed servers by the last result. it was what was possible at the time to enjoy a 24h race. it was more like a bunch of 3 hour races . still remember the roar of the gt1 aston. I did the night shifts while raining. fun times when the hobby was simpler

[@ElShogoso]

The only modern game that scratches the same sort of itch to me is Assetto Corsa with the RSS GT Pack, and you're still dealing with the bad assetto corsa AI unless you go multiplayer.

[@slaphead90]

The stand out for me is how little graphics have come along in 20 years - yeah there's some aliasing and shadows are a bit lacking, but otherwise it looks fine. Modern sims don't really look that much better but the framerates have absolutely tanked.

[@nicklibby3784]

I don't know man, I think AMS 2 looks really really good, and actually gets great performance too. But it is also because Reiza used the same "graphics techniques/strategies" these old games used. Reiza really refined and completely renovated that madness engine. They actually dumbed down a lot of graphical things compared to project cars. But it was a good thing. Like no reason to have 3d trees everywhere or all 3d crowds etc. just use a very very very good "Art style" combined with a few 3d trees / crowds in the important up close spots. They focus on detail where it really matters, and then use a brilliant art style for the rest which creates a beautiful looking game that actually runs very good. Reiza somehow made AMS 2 looks better than PC2 AND run/perform better than PC2. It's easy to get a lot of frames. It's why AMS 2 has one of if not the best VR performance in all of sim racing. They are still using graphical technique's from old 2000s games but refined better, and then combine it with detail where it really counts. Many modern games have lost focus on "art style" because graphical improvements made them seem less important. Whereas with old games, the graphical limits of the hardware and engine made it so you had to have a really good art style if you wanted the game to look good. Assetto Corsa also looks very good, CSP has made massive improvements with lighting, reflections, shadows etc. but performance is perhaps not always as good as AMS 2, it is close though. I feel like AC can still be lacking in textures, models, and aliasing. But these are pretty minor things. AC can also be tricky in the lighting/shadows/reflections department due to the fact it is mods and sometimes it doesn't combine well with older cars (even kunos cars) or specific mods, or sometimes it can seem overdone or exaggerated - luckily everything is customizable and you can fix this. It's just a little difficult to have AC look it's best across a variety of time of days/weather's/ and different tracks. For example, with some CSP settings the game might look really good at mid day with cleaner or sunny with clouds weather, but then when it gets cloudy or rainy it looks off, or if it becomes sunset it looks off or not good. I think AMS 2 is more consistent, but AC has the capability to look extremely stunning, you just have to tweak and customize for the specifics if you want it to look at its best all the time. Nevertheless, some of these old games still look really good. GTR2 and AMS 1 especially. Reiza used the same "art style" techniques in AMS 1 to make up for the graphical limits and setbacks of the rfactor 1 engine. AMS 1 is amazing because it is almost quite literally Rfactor 1.5. basically Rfactor 1 but upgraded, better ffb, more complicated physics, and much much better looking graphics even though the graphics actually aren't all the different.

[@Nomad.552]

GTR2 is old but old gem, i still have it on my PC!

[@Richard_Paradise]

OMG! Bro this is the game right there.

[@Fxrt1]

damn, GTR2 so many beautiful memories

[@MegaF1guy]

That's my favorite racing game of all time. I literally have thousands upon thousands and thousands of laps in on that game. In my personal opinion, I believe that game was so good because the founder of Simbin was a former FIA GT racer. If memory serves me, correct, Simbin also used other FIA GT racers to help develop the games physics. I still have an original box copy of that game. Is there anywhere that I could download that, anniversary pack for free? Great racing and another great video. Keep them coming. 👍👍👍👍

[@iKR-iKeysRacing]

On the website Overtake there's the 16th anniversary pack made of 3 single downloads. For free. Cheers from Monza 👋 Marco Lazzari [iKR]

[@madiimad]

Can you play this on VR?

[@IGotThisGaming]

This game is just amazing and is getting better and better with CC and the new weather plugin by Shovas and Ai tweaks.

[@shovas]

Thanks for the shoutout. HQ Anniversary Patch is great but Crew Chief and the GTR2 Enhancements Plugin and my weather stuff take this to a whole new level. I mean we have VR now lol

[@Yesterzine]

Between 2006 and Project CARS I basically played nothing else. Modern sims still have things to learn in terms of coherent single player, implementing success ballast etc.

[@BA-rh5hy]

It's on my wishlist and I'm prob going to pick it up for the collection

[@Da-Fonz]

GT Legends another great sim

[@gc241]

My favorite for sure.

[@emp2004]

I have started in GTR

[@ReverendSimRacing]

This is a new one on me Mike thanks for the heads up!

[@shovas]

Every self respecting sim racer must give it a try :)

[@ReverendSimRacing]

@@shovas I will do! 😀

[@iulian2548]

There is a purity to this game that few modern sims offer (Automobilista1, AC, RR, Rfactor2).

[@sshoveitt]

It's because of the rf1 engine. I believe it is still the best engine exactly because of the purity that comes with it. All the titles you mentioned (gtr2 included) are based on this engine except rf2 of course. So here is your answer. I'm a big fan of those sims as well

[@jamesrather1510]

​@@sshoveittAC is on its own in house Kunos engine

[@sshoveitt]

@@jamesrather1510 didn't paid attention to AC mentioning. Yes it is but it's a different type of sim compared to GTR2, Race07, AMS and RR. AC is way more complex than the sims above but to me this doesn't mean it's better. I still prefer rf1 engine over anything else on the market

[@SimCurves]

Have you tried the GT(R) cars in Raceroom? In my opinion, it has the best GT and DTM cars of any modern sim at the moment. Would love you to do a video on those. Thanks for this glimpse into the past in any case. I'll have to look the game up... never played it.

[@SimCurves]

Also, I am very much looking forward to Project Motor Racing by the creator of GTR2.

[@shovas]

R3E is hugely underrated at this point. I hope they keep going and add all the features we kind of expect in a sim these days.

[@gomezthechimp1116]

@@shovas One of the devs has said they're upgrading to DX12 graphics next year and they're introducing Drifting cars/tracks. As someone who's invested nearly 3k hours in Raceroom, I'm looking forward to this far more than ACE, which so far has left me cold.

[@shovas]

@@gomezthechimp1116 Looking forward to any improvements. I'm hoping for things like day/night, weather, live track, etc. They seem committed, I hope they keep pushing forward.

[@leeday2265]

Personally, I think GTR2's real strength is recreating a race/race series that you love. You want to add fictional elements? Well GTR2 allows you to tweak things to make that race series you loved come to life with the tracks and cars you wished raced it. Nothing else can do that with the accuracy of GTR2.

[@greenawayr08]

I presume you are aware that Ian Bell and co are working on Project Motor Racing as a successor to this? If not, check out the work that Straight4 Studios are doing

[@peevee88]

The GTR2 Lamborghini is one of the best cars in sim history

[@rynosraceroom66]

Looks fun ! Is there an online option I wonder ? Cool content 🤘🏻🏁

[@jeracerx]

Yeah it has online provided you connect to a third party server nowadays

[@shovas]

The Germans are keeping the online alive on koelschbierbude

[@michahund4879]

Mike, did you play GT legends back in the day?

[@gomezthechimp1116]

My favourite sim. I was a big fan of the progression system.

[@buzzin-hornet]

You are leaving 2 -3 seconds free time on the table each lap just by not using all the track on corner entries. I have noticed the same with my own driving at times, it's strange that when sitting on the left you'd expect this would be the side that's easiest to get closer to the track edge but it's because it spooks us feeling like we ourselves are sitting too close to danger. If you notice you are hitting the apexes and running the white lines on the right side, but leaving at MINIMUM a whole car's width if not 2 cars widths on your left. I'd recommend bringing the car to a stop exactly where you are at turn in point on right hand corners (slow hairpins even better) and then change to 3rd person view and look at where your car is positioned. You'll be shocked to see just how far you are from track edge! Then very slowly from that 3rd person viewpoint, very slowly take the car over until your tyres are just barely touching the grass/gravel and then jump back in the cockpit cam. Then align something on the dash up with this point and use it as a reference for that car. Easily 2 -3 seconds on the table on average per lap just by using the full width and thus carrying more speed, not everslowing. All the best! 😉✌

[@Hibbogtr]

This reminds me to that days with G25 and sound fully loaded until my father storms into my room…In my eyes it’s very poor that most of today’s games can not match the AI and UI of GTR2… Mike, how is FFB for you? Last time I tried the game 5 years ago, this was it’s weakest point compared to modern games.

[@jamesleegte]

This is what bugs me about people that say it’s the golden age of sim racing. For games it’s one of the weakest ages of sim racing as far as modern race games are concerned. I will agree it’s the golden age for sim racing hardware, but for games it’s not even close to golden.

[@tabs1913]

I hope you survive the rage of the AMS2 fanclub for this one. :D I do agree with you though. If only AC had decent AI to race against I'd pick that over this. AI is so neglected in this MP focused generation.

[@SimRacing604]

@@tabs1913 haha, as a card-carrying member of the AMS2 fan club, I say bring it!

[@Two49]

How's the force feedback on older titles like this? Is it as nuanced as newer titles or more muted?

[@noivalencia]

I dont know if there is a free download of full version of gtr 2..?

[@KaneTerry]

Loved GTR & GTR2 but had issues trying to install on a Windows 11 PC, any ideas to help reinstall ?

[@Wings_of_foam]

Are you using auto clutch?

[@apexshaver7301]

Mike what happened with the possibility of GTR 3? For years I kept hearing that they were working on it Is it still in the works?

[@gladbecker8218]

leave a like when you think Mike will release 3 more vids before AMS 2 1.6 is out

[@SimRacing604]

@@gladbecker8218 Mike will release one more

[@2ndLastJedi]

How do you know? Are you really the real Mike, haha​@@SimRacing604

[@SimRacing604]

@ hahaha

[@LastPlaceLarry]

I've never been able to get my Meca Cup 1 pedals working with GTR2. Anyone know of a fix?

[@pishbot]

glorious

[@daddyandy9591]

Попробуй Сток Кар Экстрим и Автомобилиста-1.Они,как и этот,сделаны из рФактора,но уже в 2013 и 2016 году соответственно.

[@genericfishbowl8528]

What amount of rotation do you have your wheel set to for this game? I can't seem to ever get the cars to steer correctly no matter what I do.

[@isiam55]

How about 540 deg. And 20 deg. Steering lock?

[@shovas]

In-game wheel has 270deg of rotation. Set your wheel to that and rotation will match and make sense.

[@zeekot4064]

Is there triple screen option for this sim?

[@theironwolf]

Crew Chief GTR2 Enhancements Plugin supports menu squeezing so that UI works better with triples, but if you mean multiple view angles, no. Maybe one day I'll get bored and do it, it is similar to VR support, so doable.

[@zeekot4064]

@ thanks.. i think you should get bored and do it lmao 😜

[@cognitonito2695]

Please help, the games display pace notes on the screen, I play in vr and hud just messes up the immersion. I did turn off "hud in cockpit camera" in the menu options but still the pace notes are there, (also there is hud everytime i finish a lap)". Why would they create pace notes for gt3 racing? who uses pace notes for circuit racing?

[@shovas]

Pace notes in GTR2? That's odd. What customizations have you made to it?

[@daboiracing3848]

i'd day Rfactor one would be my choice. imo. But you have to add mods... soo I guess GTR2 would be the answer! were GTR3? :(

[@AMSOZ-SS]

Does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the rotation (patches add ins) so I don't need to set my wheel at 240degrees just for this game?

[@williamfreeburg1038]

No need for patches or add ins. Just go into the control settings in the game and you can set the degrees of rotation to whatever you need.

[@shovas]

Only with Crew Chief and the GTR2 Enhancements Plugin and it's a compromise (there's a mode where the wheel will match your wheel up until 270 deg then stop). See Simwiki

[@AMSOZ-SS]

@@williamfreeburg1038 I don't seem to have that option in gtr2 All good though thanks for your advice man

[@BGR_33]

Are there any leagues or online community for GTR2?

[@shovas]

The Germans still do some online, see koelschbierbude

[@travnewmatic]

need a guide to re-enable all the old content and setup the anniversary patch!

[@shovas]

I've tried to document a lot of the 'getting up to speed' stuff on Simwiki

[@lespaul7261]

Awesome game so I thought I'd revisit but unfortunately I can't play it because it won't recognise my fanatec csl pedals and won't let me map them 😞🤔

[@SimRacing604]

@@lespaul7261 that’s one of the toughest things about getting this running. It can sometimes struggle with multiple inputs or newer gear. Thankfully my Moza gear all worked

[@shovas]

GTR2 has a limit on the number of devices it can see. You might need to disable/remove a usb device if you have too many that it recognizes.

[@notdreadyet33]

"..the driving school." I love that kooky career stuff and just started Assetto Corsa career, actually.lol Every driving game used to have thorough careers. How is the AI so good here and so incredibly bad in others? It is dog crap in iRacing Project Cars 2 had a career mode that doesn't get a ton of love, but I'm not sure that there's a better one. Every major discipline is represented. MP racing is great, but it can be just as much fun geeking out in single player.

[@Milkman4538]

Since Ams2 is using I.S.I pmotor physics, I think Reiza is simply re-tuning the madness engine to behave like rfactor2 with the more "advanced" SETA tire model, albeit with a better graphical and quality of life UI. All these comparisons are pointless, these games are tuned to developer preferences, and the engine probably covers 90 percent of your favorite driving sims, with the exception of Kunos and Papyrus.

[@shovas]

Good insight. Could be.

[@jackcraters]

So funny you released this video! I am reviewing what I believe are the 8 best single player experiences in sim racing in a tournament format and GTR2 is the oldest title on my list for this reason right here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYXQYoSnZt9siKc

[@Werferharfer]

This game AI is thousand times better than ACC AI, I hate ACC AI.

[@steelin666]

To be completely fair, the number of times the AI could deny you an overtake by simply covering the inside is one serious gripe I had watching the footage. That said, even modern sims have issue with AI not really doing basic defence, so it's not like GTR2 is terribly antiquated in that regard. AI is one of the aspects that get sadly disregarded by most racing sim devs, and it's one of the areas where F1 games, at least the good ones, shine in comparison.

[@isiam55]

On top of that, the AI hits each other when lapping, damaging their aero, so around 45 min. Mark they slow down a bit. Raising the minimum force value to damage aero helps. I raced in a 6hr "24hr" Spa 2003 event in NGT car and won overall (fun fact, NGT 911 won that race IRL) - AI would pit, do a fast lap or two and run slow laps untill they pit again, repeating the cycle.

[@peevee88]

This is novice mode

[@steelin666]

@@peevee88 There's no such thing in GTR2 as 'novice mode'.

[@isiam55]

@@peevee88 Novice/Semi-Pro/Simulation modes don't change AI, they mostly change what assist you can turn on, limit AI difficulty and aggression.

[@viktorianas]

AI in Half-Life 1 or 2 is still better than 99,9% of modern FPS, Age of Empires 2 is still the best RTS, movies were better in 2000s, F1, boxing, NBA, etc... some things just somehow regress with time... 🤗

[@jesuisFORTIO]

sometimes is just nostalgia, we grew older and our passion still is with our sweet older titles. but one thing is sure, things where much simpler back then

[@viktorianas]

@@jesuisFORTIO some things I listed above are OBJECTIVELY better, some are subjective ofc.

[@Skumtomten1]

Yep, and its not nostalgia. Well there is obviously nostalgia involved, but only to a certain extent. I also fully believe the best games from the 2000s are better (and alot more in terms of numbers) than anything after. This might be because I grew up with it but the graphics from this era has a certain charm that I just love. I love the "gloomy" and gritty artsyle this era had in games tbh, I think it has aged really well.