At the Zeros price point, I just feel like there are many other bikes that would make better commuters for less
@philipe.9466 Жыл бұрын
I mean at that price point, literally MOST bikes would be a better commuter. Calling a 25k $ bike the best commuter is just such stupid statement
@MrLou8888 Жыл бұрын
At that price point I've lost inerest and I'm out.
@MisterNotSpanish Жыл бұрын
The dsr/x isn't a commuter to begin with.
@gmy33 Жыл бұрын
Energica experia
@uttamgala71868 ай бұрын
Agreed. Why would anyone drop that kind of money on a commuter..
@AaronHuffmanPerson Жыл бұрын
OC! I'm seeing a lot of hate. I like Zero as I've had the 2020 SR/S. This is a premium bike, out of reach of most people. The value proposition goes better if you put a ton of miles on it a year, dont have to stop at a gas station on a daily commute, don't have to worry about any service having to do with the engine. The ideal part of an electric anything is that it will save you money in the long term but requires a substance amount of money upfront. The bad parts is that they are an anti right to repair company, the brakes could be better(don't use them much but I want them good for emergencies), there was a time when they were actively shipping out bikes that would fail to start if it was wet in certain parts which is terrible, there is no CCS for fast charging due to the lower voltage of the battery/drive system. All of that aside, the bike rides exceptionally well and if I wasn't burned from my last experience, I'd get another one. On to the Energica Experia for me now!
@ricosebeke1105 Жыл бұрын
please test the other zeros as well :) they dont have to be that much in detail but just to get to know the differences
@ImTheShrey Жыл бұрын
I own an Ultraviolette F77, I got to say since it runs on chain drive you feel more connected to the power delivery and grounded. Range anxiety is not that big of an issue after a while you get used to planning your rides. Pro tip is charging it everyday or every so often even if it's not drained enough.
@shastamite211 ай бұрын
Sadly the Ultraviolette F77 is not in the US.
@ImTheShrey11 ай бұрын
@@shastamite2 tough luck.
@Twongo4 ай бұрын
That was an excellent 9 minutes worth of information.
@kevinmair7571 Жыл бұрын
I thought I had put a comment but failed miserably. Anyway, have you watched Marc Travels, he is on a Zero SR/F (I believe) Travelling from Europe to New Zealand. Seems to find chargers in the weirdest places and not a CCS bike.
@DapperxDan Жыл бұрын
Hmm highway commuter maybe. For city commuting I would say the zero Fxs or Fxe is better
@keaneu4456 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Waldo, terrible bike. If you are in the city and commuting short distances you can get some peddle assist E-bikes for a hole lot cheaper and you can also take some off-road shortcuts.
@hawkmasters11 Жыл бұрын
I just got my 2023 zero dsrx on sale for 15k brand new. It was originally marked down to 18k but zero gave me a berter deal through the dealer!
@BatisChannelYT Жыл бұрын
Daaaamn! From 24k to 15k?? AWESOME!
@mrdygga6 Жыл бұрын
The Zero (and most other electric bikes) can offer some great prospects as a commuter bike but price and practicality negates the issue. On the commute, or to use it on the weekends (to utilise that sporty handling) there are cheaper options out there. Some folk have rightly complained about lack of support in servicing and being held to ransom on feature locking/unlocking. When you pay that much for your transport, you deserve better. It is simply not enough to rely on nice styling and good handling (as quoted above), when those features (and more) are available elsewhere. It doesn't take a month to work this out- the impracticalities outweigh any good points and the Zero would be deleted when compiling a list of bikes to test or buy.
@ThePresidentofMars Жыл бұрын
Biggest thing for me is price, for 20k there are plenty of bikes u can buy with all the extras included.
@gmy33 Жыл бұрын
Enervica experia .. same price more than enough range . Fast charging
@googletropcurieux867011 ай бұрын
Commuter bike very fun. Worth the cost
@lcdubs7847 Жыл бұрын
How could you not think that onboard storage would be a big deal? Honestly, I'll never understand how anyone can wear a back pack on a bike. Why carry gear on your pack when the bike van carry it for you?
@spencerlucas58352 ай бұрын
Uk that bike is £21000 to travel 100miles is not what I'd call decent, my previous bike that got totaled cost new £4099 with a real world range or what i could get out of it was 240 miles riding sensibly now, this is what i call fricking awesome.
@BatisChannelYT Жыл бұрын
Please do not say that to regen the motor spins the other way... it hurts
@Zee216 Жыл бұрын
it can be found on sale right now for 18-20k
@gmy33 Жыл бұрын
Really ?? .. so its true what they say ... all ebikers who rode zero are changing to energica inatead of zEro s new models
@tacmedic5211 Жыл бұрын
How about an app to control the bike settings?
@jdl12769 ай бұрын
yeah i figured by now zero would have come a long way in design... they should be creating the future, but i see the same design elements that they started with and the range hasn't improved much overall. i think motorcycles will be the final holdout on the "electric conversion". the car platform has it's benefits but motorcycle riders are WAY more in tune with the "machine" than typical car drivers. when a rider throws his leg over a bike, it's mostly about the "machine" experience, i don't know if that can be replaced.....
@dsofe4879 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes... a 20k bike to do the job of a scooter. Honestly I have no idea how Zero haven't gone bankrupt yet
@AaronHuffmanPerson Жыл бұрын
We need someone to compete with Energica, competition drives innovation!
@TheKingsapostle Жыл бұрын
"I do wanna give zero props" zero props given
@stelkurtain_tm Жыл бұрын
yikes... how much did Zero pay for this one?
@ArmaMoto Жыл бұрын
I third this
@chaseontwowheels Жыл бұрын
It's interesting that this comment comes up anytime I'm authentically excited about a product. I'll say it again as I always do. We don't get paid for our bike reviews other than KZbin ad revenue. Sorry for liking the bike.
@EfferusZangetsu Жыл бұрын
@@chaseontwowheels You can like the bike, but saying stuff like "best commuter bike" immediately triggers warning bells for any normal person. Ask yourself who actually commutes on bikes and what are their priorities, how much money they have available to buy their bike. And then ask yourself how much this bike costs and how many other bikes offer comparable performance/features (and instant torque that ev´s offer isn´t high on the list for commuters) for muuuuch less money, put reliability and ease of service into the mix, and then you will see where cunbad8´s comment is comming from. Bikes like this are playthings for people with a lot of cash to burn and nothing more.
@F0KS3Y Жыл бұрын
@@chaseontwowheels I think you should expect this type of comments when you do a video like this, dude. The whole "petrol vs electric" theme is still quite sensitive on its own. To add to all this, calling any bike "THE best" is very triggerring, I think you've thought about it when you were typing the title of the video. And if we're talking about the bike itself, ummm... I really don't get it how this one is even a decent commuter. The only benefit of this compared to, I don't know, a small naked bike, is that it's electric, but that's it. In my mind it is not enough to be called the best. DSRX is an adventure bike, not commuter. Even Zero company themselves has some bikes much better suited for commuting - it's their street series, models like S or SR. Just a bunch of questionable statements in this video, that's why people can say stuff like that in the comments. And hey, you're doing an amazing job with your CFMOTO 800, can't wait to see this tank in action!
@stelkurtain_tm Жыл бұрын
@@chaseontwowheels It's fine to be excited about anything, let alone a bike on this channel. But with all of the problems Zero has had as a company and with their bikes... calling it "THE BEST" at anything feels disingenuous. There's really NOTHING you can get that's better than this $20k OTD bike with all the associated problems that come with Zero? Times like this when I especially miss the 3D days of simple motovlogging
@paulm1237 Жыл бұрын
Motorcycles as a Subscription Service! That's what we're all looking for in a bike isn't it?
@AaronHuffmanPerson Жыл бұрын
They ended the unlocks due to backlash
@BatisChannelYT Жыл бұрын
@@AaronHuffmanPerson AAAALL the subscription? I saw that there is available for some bikes
@AaronHuffmanPerson Жыл бұрын
@@BatisChannelYT last I saw, the new ones come with all the unlocks and they just upped the price. Things might have changed in the last 6 months. For the size of company that Zero is, they can't take so much bad press.
@deanhodges2360 Жыл бұрын
OC, Mt07 with an exhaust,best commuter
@Waldo1122 Жыл бұрын
Overpriced, terrible range, refuses to allow customers to do their own maintenance, refuses to train dealerships properly on how to work on them, the list goes on. Zero is a terrible company.
@TheAnnoyingBoss Жыл бұрын
Electric just sucks so badly man. Its wild the system is trying so hard to groom us to electric but theyre all just terrible and overpriced at the same time
@Waldo1122 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAnnoyingBoss Electric doesn't suck, just look at the Tesla Plaid gapping anything that dares to race it for 150k. And now the fastest motorcycle is an electric motorcycle by Energica. Sure it doesn't have sound, but Europe is making sound illegal anyway. One of Honda's top selling motorcycles is the DCT GoldWing, people are sick of operating a clutch hence quickshifting is sought after, three wheelers are popping off because operating 5000 things at once is annoying. My point is electric is the future, but Zero isn't apart of that future.
@gmy33 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree !! Speaking from experience .. though lots of pwople enjoy zero s too .. i did as well when it worked ... would never reccomwnd one indeed terrible company
@zyonsdream Жыл бұрын
Exactly what Zero have you owned?
@Waldo1122 Жыл бұрын
@@zyonsdream Don't need to be scammed into buying one to know it is a terrible purchase. The numbers speaks for itself.
@Smallbore2wheels Жыл бұрын
OC: Range anxiety AND Zero on the same video? Man, this one is not as funny as the triple vlog with Dan and Moto though 😂
@keithkamps77 Жыл бұрын
Chase I love you but there will never be an electric in my stable especially at that price. If you want that cubby get what i have, 2020 Honda NC750X fully manual that only cost me 8grand out the door.
@polartsang4 ай бұрын
Lets 1/4 the price and half the range and its a good commuter.
@Steen6319 Жыл бұрын
Pricetag on this bike is "TO HIGH" I did look when it was new, but the price to pay for it, really?
@SD07BIKER Жыл бұрын
you should get walters zero fx for a test'
@snohwk78 Жыл бұрын
Wish they could donate that demo bike to me after. Would be great for my commute.
@bmagada Жыл бұрын
Seafoam green btw
@dearbulls Жыл бұрын
Not best for 20k. Maybe if it's asking 10k
@cs-xd9gy Жыл бұрын
I commute 64 miles a day. It's not going for a week without a charge. Stupid right side cruise control... The person that designed must not ride motorcycles.
@nephilymbass1 Жыл бұрын
I feel like these bikes should be priced much lower than they are considering range is so limited. I guess it makes some sense if you live in city. But out here in NC when you get on a bike the first thing you want to do is get away from the cities and get out on the country and mountain roads. Electrics basically limit you to the areas you really don’t want to be riding bikes in to begin with.
@amfitness5598 Жыл бұрын
25K is way too much for a commuter bike…unless you are a wall street investor on Billions 😂. They need to do this for 10K…until they do electric motorcycles will be that asterisks on motorcycles sold chart.
@donderstorm1845 Жыл бұрын
FXE is closer to that at 14k. a lot less range but fine for city commuting and short highway trips. 14k is already a lot for commuting imo. electric motorcycles are so expensive.
@gmy33 Жыл бұрын
Nonsence lots of people byy 20k motorbikes . And if you use it as a ommuter you save a lot of money .. also buy it for your company and its halfprice ...
@amfitness5598 Жыл бұрын
@@gmy33 like I said as a commuter bike. Not some fancy cruiser or super sport. To me a good commuter motorcycle is something like the Honda 750 NC DCT. A lazy man’s bike that you can buy for under 10K and be a good all around town motorcycle without excelling at any one thing. Until electric bikes can accomplish this for under 10 grand it will be hard to reach the masses bc there are so many other good options. I would love to own an electric bike as a commuter one day. So I’m definitely in that target demo just unwilling to pay all that money!
@Jig1saw Жыл бұрын
Yammie Noob (Papa Yam) already gave the Zero bikes a no-go! They are terrible as you never really own the bike due to being submissive to the proprietary features of Zero. They can also shut off your bike at any time. There's also too much reliance on the company. 👎🙅♂️
@pauljefferies9087 Жыл бұрын
Man. Listen mister. You might believe the rest of the human race has all the time in the world to try to figure out the difference between this bike and that one, but no. Get to the differences and improvements , or expect the potential customer to say, I don’t have time for this.
@abracing199 Жыл бұрын
Zeros anti consumer practices have turned me off of them forever.
@ArneAsada69 Жыл бұрын
So much EV hate in these comments. Sure the price and range are terrible but maintenance is super low. Just keep an eye on your tires condition. This bike isn’t for everyone. However if it fits your criteria as a fun around town commuter you as least have to seriously consider it.
@gmy33 Жыл бұрын
Please pay attention .. its more zero hate here than ev hate .. all by former zero owners who will never buy zero again .. just a tail of history .. electric enthousiast who where let down by a company
@addallservices Жыл бұрын
How is Groundclearances?
@PelleyJ Жыл бұрын
I'm honestly not excited for this EV take over plan that'll roll in 2030, the idea is great, and I understand it, but the feel of a motorcycle cannot be replaced, I'm sorry but I'm going to continue with contributing to global warming until companies can find a way to replicate the feel of a gas powered bikes to EV Bikes
@diredevil1 Жыл бұрын
First?
@danolivet8346 Жыл бұрын
Chase are you serious? Their "pay for already installed features" plan is absurd. Sure hope you mention that. It's a huge part of zero ownership. Not a great company to put your name on.
@PaddyLectric Жыл бұрын
There is no „pay for already installed features“ feature on this bike. It comes fully equipped and fully usable.
@danolivet8346 Жыл бұрын
@@PaddyLectric so they stopped charging for heated grip activation? Fast charging? Features that the bike already has but we're previously locked behind a paywall?
@PaddyLectric Жыл бұрын
@@danolivet8346 Jep. Cypher store is only active for the entry model, the SR. All the other 3rd gen bikes come fully unlocked.
@hometownhooligan6100 Жыл бұрын
Just making sure everyone knows this is no longer a thing. The bike comes fully unlocked. It's also 18k right now
@danolivet8346 Жыл бұрын
@@hometownhooligan6100 but that make it on that they did it in the first place