This is the FUTURE of bowling… and many of you WON’T like it

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Today we look at proof that shows what the future of bowling will look like...
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[@bowlerdave9347]

52 year old bowler here. I've been through Rubber, Plastic, Urethane, Reactive Resin, Proactive...full roller, conventional grip, fingertip grip, thumbless...wood lanes, plastic lanes, wood pins, plastic pins...Doesn't surprise me that this is where bowling is headed. In my life, I've seen a ton of changes in bowling. Didn't think they would end now.

[@aydengianes2515]

I hate twister pins I guarantee it wood pins won't even exist anymore

[@weunice]

I'm 50 this summer. Bowled one handed my whole life. Learned to bowl 2 handed and my average is within 10 pins already. Carry is much better like when I was much younger ;). Spares need work. The reason I did is because I have a nerve problem that flares up 1 handed that I don't have 2 handed.

[@weunice]

Also I'm finding it actually is easier on my body than what I was doing one handed. We will see how it is as I approach 60 in the next 10 years

[@SirJoelsuf1]

Nice! I'll be 41 this year and I'm going to 2 handed starting next season.

[@terrylewis8802]

I hurt my arm at around 38 years old and switched to the two hand grip. My average went from 204 to 219 within a year, It was much easier on my body. Don't know where people think it's harder on the body. Everyone thought it was a fad and said belmo wouldn't win much on tour. I drove 5 hours to watch him at us open in 2009. His power on the pins was insane. I told my wife then if he learns to control that he will dominate the tour. He pretty much has.

[@bunker5696]

I think the Urethane statistic is mute until we know how many urethane balls there were and how many reactive balls there were. Because if you want a urethane ball you either get the Purple Hammer or the Pitch Black, but with reactive there are WAY more options. Until we know the totality of the numbers of each ball all this tells us is that the Purple Hammer is the best Urethane ball.

[@nevinkinzel]

@therightlane This is the part you're missing about this statistic. What your stats show is that urethane balls are a key part of bowler's arsenal and that there are 2-3 key balls in the urethane category. Reactive still gets used but there are more options so no one ball is as dominant as those couple of urethane.

[@mariob.2102]

By giving two handed bowlers the possibilty to get a "tradional" ball reaction (urethane) whenever its needed makes it inevitable to start bowling 2 handed if you want to become competitive in the future. This development became present as short patterns were used frequently at championships - especially in Europe. There were times when bowlers competed with 30 year old balls which were plugged at least three times to be competitive on these type of patterns. The USBC as well as the ETB(F) made some horrible decisions in the past which led to several problems. The consequences of those decisions unintentionally favored two handed bowerls as players were forced to either use urethane, loft or increase speed by a lot. I really appreciate the two handed style but I have been really upset by the decision made in the past which ultimately penalized tradional bowlers. In the early 2000s there were also some high rev bowlers which often had some disadvantages because of their high rev rate like Robert Smith, Ken Simard, Rudy Kasimakis which made them reduce their rev rate by using the so called sarge easter grip. JM2C

[@EricSmyth4Christ]

There will be “one handed only” tournaments in 30 years for those niche players

[@dragonman910]

There's a tournament that I'm playing in at the end of the may that is: 2 oil patterns (we don't know yet if it's a modified house or sport shot) 6 scratch games 2 ball limit No plastic or urethane

[@EricSmyth4Christ]

@@dragonman910 I played a one ball tournament mystery sport shot 6 games scratch Unlimited balls in practice and then choose and go I beat Greg Thompson who has 20 800s and 65 300s . He turned down a full ride scholarship basketball to bowl. He is 6 10 black dude and doesn’t use bowling shoes Also I mopped all the brackets. The tournament director let me buy all the brackets AFTER practice, which is messed up, but I did it 1st place $1100 I actually threw out of my pinky the second game onward This specific tournament director got banned by usbc by capping the max score with handicap to 300 per game But yeah, it will be like that One handed only tournaments

[@SkepticalVex]

I'm 23 and started bowling 1 year ago, I started 2 handed. I joined the Purple Hammer Urethane train, I also use Phaze 2, Melee Jab Dark Carbon and Fate When I see someone younger than me they are almost all the time bowling 2 handed, and most the people older bowl 1 handed.

[@jakeyrunescape9219]

ive been teaching myself to bowl over the past year or so. honestly found it easier to learn two handed than one handed for me

[@SuburbAllied]

Just as in any sport where a technique proves to be too good or advantageous; I think there will be new rules against two-handed bowling as well, as it was never intended to be thrown with two hands really from the beginning. And many players using two handed styles are not doing it because they where limited to that style, they're doing it because of seeing Belmonte's success. It is a hype, but as someone said, many of these two handed bowlers except for a few, are throwing in a bone-breaking way that will cause damage to their body over time.

[@coopergates9680]

They were never intended to be thrown with three holes from the start, either (it was thumb and middle finger only). Yes, rules change in very silly ways, such as restricting players from balance holes to improve symmetrical ball performance so they will buy an asym, or reducing versatility by insisting that all holes must be used on every shot with the same hand and the ball can't be turned 180 to use the holes backwards.

[@Reclaimer77]

Well basketballs were "never intended" to be dunked into the hoop either. Your point?

[@SuburbAllied]

@@Reclaimer77My points are many, but one of them is the limit of the game itself. You are not allowed to do certain moves in basket ball due to the games limits, so is the same for bowling. To keep the score down in bowling, where the technology that goes into these bowling balls today is on it's limit is very hard, unless you start to consider certain other options. You could imagine the hustle if you where to change the properties of the lanes itself, eg making them longer or wider or changing the number of pins for instance. It would then be much easier and cost-effective to simply ban certain ways a bowler can throw a ball, eg two handed style, if that would keep scores down and ban Urethane (certain materials used in the coverstock). Sure, some will be hurt in the process, but you should also remember that many chooses to use that style, not because they're restricted to it due to physical reasons.

[@Reclaimer77]

@@SuburbAllied There's no reason to ban two-handed bowling though. I don't get your logic. Sure you *could*, but should you? I use two fingers, no thumb. Will you come for me next?? Because my form isn't "traditional"? Honest question.

[@MikeClayton-ju2ux]

Go through the list and count up all the reactive balls. And all the urethanes. Bet the numbers are similar. It’s just that there are fewer urethane options than reactive and the reactive balls are all over the place.

[@thenerdyarab7622]

My son (also 2H- age 13) does that too for all of the right hand spares.

[@Mikey-1990]

I have nothing against two handed bowling or urethane, but us one handers are definitely going to be the minority someday. I'm finishing up my sport shot league for the season next week, and I'd say at least 75% of bowlers in that league are two handers who use the Purple Hammer or Pitch Black. Again, no hate at all, but it really is going to be the new norm eventually.

[@FSUSean2112]

but hey its not like 1 handed is bad and you cant get the revs you need, no you just get alot more rotation and power with the shots but alot of 1 handers do that too. but hey in my opinion its good to be different than everyone else.

[@willjames6437]

Two handlers prefer urethane as it is smooths out the difficult patters. As two handlers have high revs this makes urethane even more appealing as it keeps. Their ball motion more controllable. It goes hand in hand., two handlers and urethane.

[@Jalreal]

I just hope there continues to be a good mix between 1 and 2 handers because it is honestly boring to see too many of one or the other. Backup balls to pick up 7/10 pins are cool too lol

[@migmag_9789]

Even as a two hander myself, I couldn't agree more. I love to watch both styles for different reasons.

[@davidfenech7185]

The risk to bowling is not urethane or 2 handed or left handed or funny oil patterns…. The risk is STRING PIN!!!!

[@MrSENPAIZ]

As a one handed lefty since 2003 I feel that we, meaning lefty one handers are a dying breed

[@Tejay-Kiama]

Not a dying breed bud, but if you look at patterns that Kegel produce they are trying to make it more difficult on the left

[@Telvet900]

If you look at the history of bowling balls, urethane had the shortest time in history as the main shell to use. It only had a 10 to 12 year run from the early 80's to the early 90's. That is not a lot when you think about how long the game has been around. All for urethane being back in the game. How many players want to play over the left gutter cap for their career. Also how long can you really enjoy the game itself bowling two handed. Maybe mid to late 20's for most. I believe that if the game has a real future the traditional style and strategies should be taught so people can enjoy the game their whole life rather then not physically be able to do it when they get older.

[@John326W]

Also urethane wasn’t in play at the masters I agree it can be frustrating seeing everyone using that ball but nothing is stopping you from using urethane

[@ROB92M12]

i bowled both ways depends on if adjustment is needed based on conditions. Majority of these two handers are original traditional bowlers they just chose to bowl 2 handed in order to keep up with the ever changing game of bowling. Unless, you owned PBA or USBC itself or one of its biggest investors, then you have the right to change anything within the rule book.

[@7kakan]

I would argue that urethane, especially Purple Hammer, almost always are in play but that many times other balls would have worked better. However, searching for the "cprrect" ball motion can take a long time and be really difficult.

[@Joker81075]

Using both hands is not the way the game was meant to be played.

[@toddzehr203]

Two handed seems the easy way out because so many can't bowl with one hand. At least that is what two handers are telling me when I ask. I personally don't care how a person bowls but, it does look lame. Just because they get frustrated learning one hand.

[@rogercarlson2330]

Thats exactly it. And the young men nowadays cannot handle anything hard. Just look at the work force.

[@grillmaster95]

Another reason that urethane won't continue its upward trend is that it's generally bad for ball sales. Urethane doesn't really go bad like reactive balls do. Once you have a urethane ball, it doesn't soak in oil to the point of obsolescence like reactive does. This is bad for ball sales, and I imagine tournaments will eventually heavily discourage the use of urethane by changing the oil patters to help out the ball manufacturers (at least if the PBA or USBS doesn't just outright ban the modern urethane balls). 2 handed is likely to continue the trend, unless people somehow find a way to make higher rev rates a disadvantage, which I think is really unlikely. It would be bad to completely discourage a massive group of young bowlers just over a personal dislike of 2 handed bowling.

[@brettrobbins2707]

That's why usbc bans any urethane ball 2 years old, got to get them sales

[@razorbear4222]

There’s a two hander in my high school league junior who averaged 212 and he would always go back up ball on right side

[@wutang_bing8090]

2 handed isn’t dominant….it’s just raiser especially for younger

[@michaelfinley9988]

Bowling is a lifetime sport, let’s see these dual-handed youngsters when they are seniors. Not many seniors bowl 2 handed due to diminishing flexibility and agility. Many of the young will probably have to learn to bowl one handed when they get older.😅

[@Tinke8]

There's a big mistake on the list because Purple Hammer and Purple Pearl are the same

[@jonathancaballeros3408]

Could be the Kentucky Hammer from 2018?

[@Tinke8]

@@jonathancaballeros3408 banned in the event

[@AlterSchwedeWieGeil]

It's just that they aren't strict with the registration. People misspelled their ball names on the application form. During ball becks they see purple Hammer, look at the ball and USBC number and it's fine. They don't care as long as it is clear which ball the application form is supposed to have listed. There's also some Phase 2's registered

[@elr2141979]

100 years from now people will still be throwing the purple hammer 🟣

[@34pimpdog]

Its an actual learning curve to hook a ball one handed. 2 handed is easy to have fun bowling and hook a ball with your friends. Your hand position makes way less of a difference 2 handed vs oje handed. Source: i was a former 2 handed bowler. Went to 1 handed 3 years ago. I switched from 2 handed due to my IT band killing me with the speed of my approach and planting so hard.

[@lumberlikwidator8863]

The only reason two handed bowling is dominant is because of the easy wet/dry patterns everyone is playing on nowadays. Even the pros have way more oil in the middle of the lane and that’s what makes two handed, 20 mph, 500 rpm bowling relevant. These patterns were illegal during the heyday of bowling, just ask Ray Orf or Glenn Allison. Put out a flat shot, 1 to 1 ratio, 40 feet down and you will see two handed bowling go away in a hurry. When bowlers that were averaging 235 on these formerly illegal patterns start throwing ten or twelve gutterballs in a set and struggling to break 400, then you’ll see this hack bowling style go away and people will have to start being shotmakers once again.

[@74snipernase50]

Amen!You are sooooo right!

[@bgale14]

Except they already do that in the US Open and 2 handers still do well.

[@lumberlikwidator8863]

@@bgale14 There is not a 1to 1, gutter to gutter shot anywhere in the world today. If there was, so-called 230 average bowlers would be shooting 140 and crying their eyes out. It used to be pretty much all you would ever see until the introduction of urethane balls. Then the ball manufacturers and the crybabies who couldn’t hit their mark got their way. Tilted patterns allowed hack bowlers to miss their mark two or more boards either way and still hit the pocket. Bowling has been on a downslide ever since.The notable exception was the US Open, where the lanes were drier in the middle and more heavily oiled on the outside, creating an out of bounds area outside of the second arrow and the most difficult oil pattern in all of bowling. Todays two handers and big crankers would die on a pattern like that.

[@KingBueno619]

My bowling teammate went from 2-handed to 1-handed not too long ago because he has more ball control than 2-handed. Two months ago he achieved his 300 sanctioned game

[@FSUSean2112]

congrats on him.

[@nonbeliever3169]

Being the greatest youth bowler in Europe is like being the smartest kid with Down Syndrome.

[@lawrence9806]

I'm probably the only person in all of the bowling youth who dislikes two handed bowling. I just don't get the appeal. I've tried it before and it just doesnt feel right. I don't understand why you need to do it to hook it more either, I'm a one handed bowler and I can hook a spare ball, which isn't even meant to hook, perfectly fine into the one three or brooklyn pocket from the right side of the lane. I just don't get it. I suppose it's easier, but it's getting to the point where I find watching PBA tournaments with two handers boring, as, aside from the left handers, who i do enjoy watching, they are literally all just carbon copies of Belmonte with their approach. I do find right handers hooking their balls to the right side entertaining though, but one handers can easily do that aswell by turning their body to the right at the end of their crosslane approach and rotating their arm to the right. Infact, that's usually what I do to pick up the 10 pin or similar leaves, as watching it ride the left rail for ten seconds and then hook into the ten pin too funny not to do. Probably shouldn't have posted a massive rant that nobody will ever see anyways on a bowling video for no reason, but eh.

[@bowlingxp8345]

That's hardly "news" or a "revelation" of any kind, as the title baits. Also it is of course expected that there would be more 2 handers in juniors than the general bowling population.

[@716Adventures]

he said he would leave the link, but never did :(

[@therightlanebowling]

Apologies! It's in the description now :)

[@andrewweltlich9065]

I'm honestly surprised there weren't MORE 2 handers. I'm happy to see that one handed bowling still has some life left. I'm also surprised/confused that girls still haven't picked up 2 handed bowling. I'm really curious why that is.

[@therightlanebowling]

Yes same here, I was surprised there weren't more female two handers. But I think it's only a matter of time before it catches on. I'm sure bowlers like Nora Johansson and Bella Love Castillo will inspire many young future female bowlers.

[@AlterSchwedeWieGeil]

Girls don't benefit from 2 handed as much as boys do. Because of their breasts it's hard for the supporting arm to reach the ball during the backswing. This forces them to either reduce their backswing or twist their spine a lot more than male bowlers have to. Depending on what they choose it either makes it harder to generate ballspeed and rev-rate or introduces a lot more movement in their upper body which can be an additional source for errors.

[@andrewweltlich9065]

@@AlterSchwedeWieGeil You know, I've never considered that before. I guess that makes sense.

[@twinsboy_3410]

Boobs get in the way.

[@Anders-B]

Someone teach me 2 handed backup. Imagine trying to find a coach in the UK that knew how to do that haha

[@darcywood4637]

Simo has been using a backup ball for years

[@leifnerheim5552]

He won a PBA tournament with a backup ball

[@sriley064]

2 handed bowling is easier to carry with,if I'd started now i'd be bowling 2 handed

[@wingracer1614]

Wow, somebody showed up with a MoRich Seek and Destroy. That ball is older than any of the competitors, LOL.

[@aydengianes2515]

I have the morich destroyR ball

[@wingracer1614]

@@aydengianes2515 My favorite ball was the MoRich Onslaught. Man would I love to find an undrilled one

[@savecountry101]

Yep, the two-handed game is undeniably a shortcut for the younger bowlers. Further proof that they want everything easier and they want everything basically handed to them - two hands at a time. .... For those who think it's easier bowling with two hands -- So what's 'THE CHALLENGE' in it if two-handed is the easier of the two methods ?? .... Nevermind, I already answered for you.

[@BARBELLS-AND-BUDS]

So I messed up on the list now they have phaze II on their two different places

[@izrultwocents]

Many two handed bowlers might not agree with me, but two handed bowlers will kill the fun in bowling in the future and many people will not play bowling anymore.. yeah, i know it will stay, but two handed bowling styles are plain BORING, almost identical.. i'm stick by my opinion..

[@twinsboy_3410]

I’m a 197 average. Fingertip cranker. About 16 mph. Would I use this (purple hammer Urethane) when my solids are too reactive and my pearl magnitude 035 is too weak? Thanks! I remember this ball as a kid. Wanted one then in 1992 want one now but just trying to justify.

[@darcywood4637]

Start out with the purple hammer on the fresh until you start loosing carry then switch to reactive

[@JoshFiver]

Pardon the insinuation……This channel seems to be the “bowling fan’s complaint” channel. Every title and subject is, are two handers cheating? Did Simonsen get an advantage because he had to be eliminated twice in a double elimination tournament? And so on…. And then this title. Is this the future of bowling? And then slams urethane. It’s good data, but it comes across as complaining.

[@nothumbbowler1802]

Bowl a sport short tournament in NJ on anything short, and 1/2 the ball you see on the ball returns, or more, are those purple hammers. For my no thumb game I can't project reactive down the lanes. The reactive balls are just too strong for many tournament conditions. I don't have a purple hammer (well, I had one, once). But I have a Blue Tank, Blue Hammer, Natural, Super Natural, Carbide Tank. So lots of non-reactive options. Want to force people away from urethane - that's simple. More oil volume. Put down 50 foot patterns. Or maybe companies should develop reactive balls for high friction environments. They really don't. Lower end reactive balls are designed for beginner bowlers, not sport short. And then there are some high friction houses, where 48 feet on them plays like what 38 feet should be. With the rev rates the way, they are. High friction houses. Short oil conditions. Lanes breaking down in tournaments after 1 - 2 games. What else are people supposed to do? Maybe 30 years later we'll look back at the reactive era (at least for competitive bowling), sort of like we do not for the first urethane era.

[@alexallen126]

I think there should be urethane only tournaments.

[@glassmaxtool]

Thank you, loved it. Confirmed two things for me: - two-handed bowling is dominating and preferred - my purple hammer doesn't just rock for me, but for most. Thanks again for the pick-me-up today.

[@Callofthegame247]

I don't see two handed bowling taking over. We'll see how many of these juniors make it to the PBA. Two handed bowling is less consistent, and harder to manage, given the aggressive footwork required, and high revs don't mean you're necessarily good. It's not rev rate and speed alone that wins, it's the guy who can play the entire lane and be skilled enough to change his ball reaction at will. Idk, but two handed bowling is just another trend to me. Regardles, you still have to compete with them, I don't mind facing a two hander in match play, I'm just saying it's never going to be the majority.

[@rogercarlson2330]

I think it gets better faster, I have seen guys start out two handed and shoot up to a 200 average. But they have no skill in the game. It's just weak wristed monkey bowling.

[@agoo7581]

The explanation is a simple one. Bowlers who started at a young age, are simply not strong enough to get under a ball and throw with any hook. Traditionally, the path to learning would be several years of learning to throw accurate straight shots, but now young bowlers can start hooking the ball right away. Creating for a much exciting, and efficient learning experience. The only hope for one handed bowling to remain relevant is that this game has a lot of people who start at an older age, although even those people can adopt two handed. Add to the facts now that the 3rd generation of two hands are coming in with lower ref rates, would suggest, that people are beginning to learn how to control axis tilt this way, (which used to be an advantage for 1 handers) If we can start learning how to control referee with two hands, the one-handed technique may very well become obsolete within 30 years

[@alsheps300]

OK, go through that massive list of balls, and add up the total numbner of urethane vs reactive balls. Don't cherry pick one reactive vs one urethane, of course there'd be more urethane in that example, there are only really 3 or 4 different urethane balls around and hundreds of reactives. Go add up totals and then see how big the difference is.

[@alsheps300]

OK, so I did the math... In total (rough numbers, but I think they're pretty accurate), balls registered: Plastic: 109, Urethane: 210 Reactive: 292. Not really "Overwhelmingly Urethane" when you look at the totals. In fact not even a majority of Urethane balls. Not that it really matters, people can and should use what they want to use to help them score as best as they can, but I prefer people not be dishonest when presenting things.

[@the13thking]

String pin setters are the future, unfortunately.

[@rexas5490]

All bowling gonna be in the years to come is 2 handers just throwing urethane. It really is just ruining the sport

[@FrenchSe7en]

The fact that the best players in Europe are mostly two handed show how this playstyle is superior. But boomers hates that fact

[@bunker5696]

I think rather young people don’t like to admit that.. it’s easier. Stop acting like it’s not.

[@FrenchSe7en]

@@bunker5696 Learning to hook is easier, going straight is harder. You have to be in a better physical shape to play two handed.

[@bunker5696]

@@FrenchSe7en Walter Ray Williams shot a 300 2 handed and bro is as old as they come in bowling.. yes you do but that’s not a valid counter argument considering how much more comes with 2 handed.

[@bunker5696]

@@FrenchSe7en And going straighter isn’t THAT hard. Just get a 50 dollar plastic ball or lift your ring finger when you release rofl. 🤦🏻‍♂

[@rogercarlson2330]

​@bunker that shows you how hard it really is.......lol....

[@DJL587a]

Why is the proportion of Girls that bowl with 2 hands so much lower than boys?

[@qu1zz3r97]

Harder for girls to bowl 2 handed due to a very specific biological difference.

[@chilledice6301]

Body mechanics, it is a lot harder for females. It would take 2 years longer for a female to learn 2 handed.

[@theboz19]

They don't have a Belmo, Simo, Troupe as role models. However, look up Bella Love Castillo, 13 y/o 2 hander.

[@DJL587a]

@@theboz19 That makes sense. I have seen her on social media and on TV (junior nationals) a few weeks ago.

[@alwoolum7395]

It's a more physical/athletic delivery. Women need to spend more time in the gym to master it.

[@digfidge]

Unknown brand unknown ball name...

[@khashiashtari2183]

It’s human nature to take the easy route.

[@tomy5868]

because two handed is the only way they can get the ball to the pocket.

[@deadpolymers3416]

Kids going to 2H makes total sense. Ever seen a young kid try to throw 1H? The ball is too big for them, so it’s easier throw 2H. Now that 2H is an acceptable release, kids aren’t weened away from it as they grow up, so more stick with it. The numbers of 2H will go up as more youth age out into adult competition. The Purple Hammer being the top ball makes sense. It’s by far and away the best urethane ball on the market, and there are what... only half a dozen urethane balls available currently. If there were on 10 reactive son the market, and 1 of them was clearly better... that ball would be on top of the list.

[@mxjosh18]

2 handers create high revs BUT they throw urethane to tone the reaction down? Seems silly if thats the reason for bowling 2 handed. Whats the point of 500 revs with a ball that doesn’t take advantage of that?

[@alwoolum7395]

Urethane is more predictable.

[@mxjosh18]

@@alwoolum7395 doesnt answer anything. Why create more revs only to be forced to choose a ball that mimics a lower rev rate?

[@AlterSchwedeWieGeil]

Better pin Carry

[@mxjosh18]

@@AlterSchwedeWieGeil urethane? absolutely not.

[@AlterSchwedeWieGeil]

@@mxjosh18 Higher rev rate results in better pin Carry. High rev rate with urethane creates better carry than a low rec rate with reactive. Just compare Jesper Svenssons Pin carry with that of rhino page or Jason couch

[@nordattack]

Purple Hammer may be the greatest ball ever made in the history of the game and is a perfect compliment to the two handed power game. If Jesper was not with Storm and could use the Purple, he would have several titles by now.

[@bobbyrobert5493]

Screw 2 handed bowling

[@BowlingNDrums]

Urethane is here to stay. It’s easier to control when you have lots of revs.

[@jefferydaniels6717]

Until they finally add enough oil to take it back out of play, just like they did the first time around.

[@BowlingNDrums]

@@jefferydaniels6717 very possible and I can see that happening but that would be ridiculous. Bowling ball companies will have to create bowling balls much stronger then the Gem or DNA. That’s getting out of control..

[@jefferydaniels6717]

@@BowlingNDrums Exactly what they said about resin first time around. If the "2 hand revolution" is coming, scores are going to take a giant leap up again (like they did with resin and then with the improvements in core design) and then you either bring the pace down or finish killing the game because everyone averaging 220-230 is not going to be fun for long.

[@alexmerel9924]

Because they cant bowl cover up grab and poor technique

[@justsorandom764]

I'm cool with 2 handed bowling... Urethane should be banned.

[@enniojosefelicecisneros3417]

two handed bowling is killing discipline, sad, sad, sad !!!!!!!

[@PinoyBowlerGS92]

I disagree

[@rogercarlson2330]

Yep you can see it a mile away.

[@71modelsigmon]

Don't like that 2-handed bowling is taking over. I have my reasons and will not debate them here. However, I will say that I don't think they will be as prevalent on the senior tour. Bowling 2-handed is harder on the body and I just don't see these guys' bodies being able to do that at 60, 70.

[@SirJoelsuf1]

That's...not a bad thing. Some of the best athletes of all time in sports outside of bowling have a de facto "expiration" date. Michael Jordan, one of the best basketball players of all time, couldn't do what he could in the 90s at 45. How about Ichiro Suzuki, one of the best baseball players of all time? Was he able to do what he could do in the 2000s when he was pushing 50? What about Wayne Gretzky, one of the best hockey players of all time? That's right, he retired BEFORE he reached his fifth decade of life. Tom Brady, easily one of football's best quarterbacks despite the controversy surrounding him, is approaching 50 and will likely retire soon. If we want bowling to be popular like other sports, its best figureheads NEED an expiration date. When people see a 65+ year old Walter Ray still winning outside of the senior tour, they won't take bowling seriously.

[@aydengianes2515]

I guarantee it's just going to be all plastic twister pins of junk now and wood pins will never exist

[@PinoyBowlerGS92]

If only Wood Pins wasn’t like breaking so easily like it is now. Like the Brunswick Maxes and Scorekings, the pins are awesome but the lifespan is so short for like 4 Years and if I was running my Bowling Center, I prefer spending money on Pinsetter Parts and Maintainance than short life span Brunswick or AMF Wood Pins

[@aydengianes2515]

@@PinoyBowlerGS92 that's why you use abc pins were more durable for some reason people keep saying that. But there's no way getting them anymore

[@aydengianes2515]

I was thinking synthetic coating on wood pins my work a little bit more better than plastic coating making the life span of wood pins more

[@thebriangroves]

Of course kids choose the easy way, if 2 handed wasn't easier they wouldn't do it. Sucks for actual bowlers, they should separate bowlers from the limp wristed 2 handers

[@rogercarlson2330]

Yes!

[@douglasbuck8986]

Well....there's a shot to screw anyone at ANYTIME. NEW undiscovered oils...longer flatter patterns.....

[@train5974]

I bought my ebonite magnum urethane ball 25 years ago. Bowled 278 .269. 258 and numerous other 200 games with it. 🙄

[@wildsidebryan]

registrered

[@SirJoelsuf1]

Good. This transition should have taken place 15 years ago, straight up. God forbid bowlers get held to actual athletic standards.

[@aydengianes2515]

It really don't matter how someone is better than someone. a one handed amateur bowler can win against a 2 handed professional bowler.

[@exitar1]

Bowling is done the demographics say so…

[@enniojosefelicecisneros3417]

don´t take mi coments as a joke.

[@midnitesilverrun8631]

The last thing concerning to me is how a bunch of kids in Europe are bowling.

[@davidfenech7185]

Maybe you should…all the Europeans who are doing well on tour in the US , played at the EYC when they were young

[@alecj3454]

The PBA just banned wrist braces but allow two hand chuckers. It only makes sense if the PBA is desperate for relevance today without a thought about tomorrow. If you are a young kid with weak wrists, they are telling you to switch to two hand chucking... Once everyone is a two hand chucker, they will start to regulate balls to death, and spend billions on oil and patterns to try and turn two hand chuckers into real bowlers with normal results. Eventually bowling will be 90-95% two handers, all using the same ball, on lanes so specifically crafted to eliminate success variety, bowling will become a parade of lemmings mega boring to watch & impossible to care about. The back up spare ball was inevitable, too. Why would you not take advantage of the cheating you are already doing? What a joke...

[@rogercarlson2330]

It caters to the weak, see what's happening in society? All these young men want to be like Dylan mulvany

[@BowlingNDrums]

One handed is never going away. Two handed bowling is too much strain on the lower back. Not everyone wants to ruin their lower back.

[@jpsmith6524]

Wes Malot and Sean Rash deal with back issues and they bowl one-handed. I'm a one-handed bowler but, if I had to do it all over, two-handed would have been my choice.

[@whiteriverangler9670]

Agree and disagree with you. It CAN be a bigger strain, if done a certain way. Look at the two handers on tour, how many go down with back injuries. I was having major back issues at 33 years old being a two hander. I studied Belmo’s style and went to a more Belmo-esque release and stance, boom, back issues gone

[@BowlingNDrums]

@@jpsmith6524 I know a few people who have gone to one handed because of back pain.

[@BowlingNDrums]

@@whiteriverangler9670 I know a few people who have gone one handed because of back pain and has helped their back go back feeling better. Could also be technic like you said.

[@jpsmith6524]

@@BowlingNDrums That's fine. I am saying that back pain is not necessarily associated with one style or the other. It could boil down to the physical condition of the bowler.

[@rogercarlson2330]

It's sad how the men have become so weak as to bowl this way. But yes if you look at things with Dylan mulvany leading the way for young men it's kinda hard for them. Good job on the women though.