This is The NEWEST SUPERBIKE to Challenge The MAJOR BIKE BRANDS *QUICK PRO*

[@GCPerformance18]

check out the early black Friday deals over at panda podium before its gone: www.pandapodium.cc/product/bundle-1-quick-pro-ar-one/?ref=1679 These frames are getting better and better and we are pretty much getting to a point where the differences are so minimal from the major brands and the prices are still very competitive to what you would pay for a major brand as well. Really pleased with the overall quality and frame and can not wait to get the final build on this thing.

[@kenhunt]

They really need to work on their naming if they want to really start appealing to the westerners.

[@renegadeflyer2]

Yes they do. Something similar to, FSA. 🤪😜

[@yukiko_5051]

They should name it Quickshot

[@ZachGrabill]

my thought exactly

[@GCPerformance18]

Honestly even QUICK just by itself would be a cool name lol. But still give it some time. You think when TREK made there name everyone fell in love with it?

[@zhuyufan1186]

@@GCPerformance18 They are called quick pro instead of quick due to a trade mark issue in China. But I do agree the name is not appealing even for a Chinese consumer.

[@PatrickLino]

I absolutely hate that style saddle rail clamp. My $600 Dengfu frame from 3 years ago uses the same style, and it causes all my various saddles to creak. But I'm sure Quick Pro worked out the bugs. Very Chinese for sure...

[@lestonycyclistone]

Otherwise there wont be version 2 with bug fixed frame , and ppl forced to change new frame again 😂

[@GCPerformance18]

yea I am wondering what saddle to put on there, if the carbon rails are too fragil for it, but i am going to install it with my weight to see it

[@realekm]

If a world tour team is using this frame they have definitely tested and ironed out major issues.

[@ariffau]

But I bet you like the really long and low geometry

[@TheXiamenCyclingFeed]

Na you got it twisted Patty, this saddle clamp is far better than the single bolt one which is known for slipping when you hit the nose or tail. I had that problem ony Winspace and Tavelo frames if I landed too heavily on the saddle nose. I have this style clamp on my CAAD and now the Quick frame and zero creaking. I think that was a dengfu problem, nothing to do with this style of clamp.

[@USMC7178]

You seem to love that BMC t-shirt!!😊

[@abhimawa1]

Your videos with all the new discoveries excite me genuinely, as you seem to be always in with positive energy seeing to a healthy competitive cycling industry ahead 👍

[@GCPerformance18]

I appreciate it, a good industry is good for everyone, even the big brands!

[@sykkel-nord]

The problem with Chinese frames is the sizing; it’s impossible to find a frame for people over 195 cm tall."

[@DaveCM]

I'm 188 and most Chinese frames don't go big enough for me. There are some, but not a lot. Most top out at a 56cm.

[@DanTuber]

i've become burnt out with these no name chinese brands with no reputation selling for stupid prices. They started out as cheap and dirty option to try out as a hobby build. Now they're expensive with still questionable QC and warranty support. So why bother when the mainstream brands are discounting to survive.

[@travispyle2905]

There are no name chinese brands, and then there are Named Chinese brands with steller QC and reputation. Check out the factory tour that China Cycling did with the Farsport wheels factory. Watch it and you will be dumbfounded by the Nth degree level of tolerance and QC they go to. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnOwpYOlrM96n6c

[@uptowndann109]

this frame is monocoque frame unlike the cheap ones and every frame and fork is scanned. This brand is not new and reputable.

[@galenkehler]

"No reputation" ? You're just showing a bit of ignorance really. Just because you haven't educated yourself about the Chinese market, that's not the brands fault. At the end of the day, there are plenty of other options, just buy something else if you don't like it.

[@jeanmorali4190]

In France i wait the XDScarbontech bike from ASTANA world Tour team...

[@jeanmorali4190]

Amazing ....price 😂 Quick...escape..😅

[@garysladek9110]

Yes, tell more apparel manufacturers we need 20 cm tall socks. Cheers

[@GCPerformance18]

I know what you mean!

[@ariffau]

Yup! Sounds about right. I’m 171cm tall with 84cm inseam. The socks I get from Pongo and Fingers Crossed all are 7 inches minimum. Mandatory. Failure to comply results a death sentence

[@brockjennings]

The SL8 called. It wants its head tube back 🙄

[@GCPerformance18]

hahaha we are seeing more companies adopt this style, like the tavelo arow, the factor ostro vam and also the quick pro

[@jakethesnake1976]

And the speed sniffer is the ugliest bit of the sl8 too! 😆

[@invisiblescout6335]

It's not that similar to the sl8, and if you want to talk about that, then pinarello and every chinese open mold brand called, they want their headtubes back

[@donwinston]

What you showed is a HUGE drop from seat to stem. Are you sure you want to remove spacers? I think you need more.

[@GCPerformance18]

thats how my bike is set up now if you look at my seka build or my tarmac sl8 this is always how I ride my bike

[@Raymond-Farts]

Can we get one of these raw. No paint, not decals, no logos. I want to apply Cerakote Paint.

[@GCPerformance18]

that would be badass, but i am sure there are liabilities to this for warranty, they could maybe do this in the future with nothing on it and no warranty

[@travispyle2905]

Winspace offers their new T1550 Gen 2 frame as a raw version with no paint, decals, etc.

[@landoag1041]

compared to sworks sl8 whole frameset, which one is lighter?

[@davidcarino6500]

Trek SLR claims 750 grams with paint for 56, my 58 weighted 905 grams but I will say the paint is on the think side. Believe if i had to do it all over again i would pick something like this for 1/2 money and 90% the same bike!

[@GCPerformance18]

dont worry everyone claims there frames are much lighter then what they are

[@davidcarino6500]

@GCPerformance18 for that kind of money should be within 100 grams! Like what you do to educate riders! I won't deal with the big makers anymore.

[@marcosdelrio3466]

I have a question for you, non related to this video, i am looking for a 11-30 cassete 12v to put into my competition wheels, so i need something light and good gear changes, do you recomend something different or should i go directly to durace? Maybe classiffied..or any other cheap chinese brand?

[@66mikkim]

buy a 105 and be happy.

[@GCPerformance18]

I would go duraace if you are looking for the best performing cassette shimano has what is called hyperglide ++ so it works the best with there whole system

[@ariffau]

As Patty said, this bike is “very Chinese” Based on Joe’s video, I bet this rides harshhhhh and as you already know, fast bikes don’t need to feel harsh and transmit every single road buzz to be fast. Orbea Orca Aero I rode (latest gen.) rides really smoothly. I bet Tarmac SL8 also rides smooth. But smooth doesn’t mean slow and sluggish. It’s some weird ahh carbon layup magic 🪄

[@benhardwick1970]

I’ve got a winspace T1550 gen 2 with magene wheels. I don’t feel it’s overly harsh even with carbon spikes but I am running 32mm tyres. My TCR has 28mm with DT Swiss wheels and it’s maybe a fraction more comfy but nothing really noticeable. I feel running wider tyres makes more difference than anything else

[@SedatedPigeon]

I wonder if they sell well domestically in China or is it mainly targeted to foreign market.

[@GCPerformance18]

I think with being on panda podium they will try to push western market for sure, I think that is the goal for panda podium to make it easier to acquire over here

[@YannickLB]

They ride their chinese brands more than the western brands.

[@SedatedPigeon]

@@YannickLB yes I'm sure, lived in xiamen China for 2 years but that was a decade ago. The high end market was really niche, maybe that has changed now

[@MrMarkyone]

Great video,Chinese frames are now getting very popular. Do you have or heard of elilee xxe ?im looking at getting one.

[@goldenretriever6261]

After reviewing these bikes do they send them back or they get to keep them?

[@GCPerformance18]

depends on the deal worked out, I get to keep this model but the bikes like van rysel or a complete bike I have send back

[@Millicente]

But how much time has it spent in a wind tunnel?

[@MauroErazo]

the real world isn't a wind tunnel.

[@Millicente]

@ the real world isn’t a school either but doesn’t mean the things you gain from it don’t apply at all

[@invisiblescout6335]

It was developed with cfd. There aren't any wind tunnels appropriate for bike testing in asia. Most bikes are developed in cfd and wind tunnel tested just for validation. The ones actually developed in wind tunnels are usually if the brand has its own wind tunnel (spesh, ridley) or they partner with someone who has one (swiss side)

[@BradRossetto]

Grant. Enjoy your content, you bring a fresh perspective of a shop owner, I like your editorials on the state of the industry, and I’ve learned some stuff too from your build videos. But for the love of Marco Pantani let’s take a rest on the parade of Chinese frames and wheels, bars etc ad infinitum . Just because Panda Joe sends you a bunch of free crap from Xiamen, doesn’t mean you have just regurgitate his, Torques, Hambini, Trace Velo, and probably a hundred, no maybe a thousand other guys doing the same thing. Let Joe do his own work, and earn his pay,you are an original my friend, and I look very forward to your perspectives from the front line with fewer wheel wonders from the magic kingdom. With love.

[@GCPerformance18]

I love it, and I appreciate the feedback it just seems that right now all new stuff coming out people are complaning about the price point, I find this stuff really facisnating seeing the prices they get it for compared to what our store pays but obviousely the market is very saturated but this is all new to me coming from a bike shop paying normal prices anmd seeing the highly discounted prices from china but I will do more ocntent coming soon

[@steben7164]

best humor in the game HAHAHAH

[@ranjithpowell6791]

Nice colour

[@GCPerformance18]

Yeah, this bike is a head turner.

[@iiZenon]

I hate that the Chinese prices are going up 😒

[@GCPerformance18]

yea 2021 had some crazy prices that I myself miss as well

[@iiZenon]

@@GCPerformance18 bro China was suppose to save us from these price gouging not join them 🤦🏽‍♂️🤣

[@jakethesnake1976]

Yep nobody is paying close to western pricing for a chinese frame with zero dealer network - Giant all day everyday for value and support

[@travispyle2905]

Earlier this week I talked a buddy into getting this frame, and for a total of $3800, got this frame, tavelo bar/stem, Sram red mini groupset ($1K), sram force cassette, chain, bottom bracket, and rival crank with powermeter (for a few extra hundred he could have upgraded to a carbon crank, but he was at his budget cap), pretty much everything with a new bike minus wheels/tires/saddle. We expect the bike to be about 15 pounds and a great race bike. On Thursday I talked my buddy into returning his new $4200 Trek Emonda SL6 (Sram rival with aluminum bar and stem) and use the 30 day money back guarantee to build out this bike. There was a 10% restocking fee, so for $3800 he got this frame, Tavelo bar/stem, Sram red mini groupset ($1K), sram force cassette 11-28 ($115), Sram Rival crank with power meter and 1 by 54T chainring (I forget how much that was), proper Bottom bracket. He already had pedals, bottle cages, Nice new wheels, and saddle. Funny, my buddy that is about 1 year into racing just bought his new "road race bike" It was a 2023 Emonda SL6 with sram rival, aluminum non-aero handle bar for $4200. It weighs 20 pounds. (He already has a Rim brake Giant TCR, and a disc brake Trek Domane, so this emonda was sold to him as a great crit bike. I asked if he was interested in seeing what he could build for that price point (and use the Trek 30 day return policy). He said no thanks. Next day he takes his new emonda for a ride, feels very underwhelmed, and immediately calls me to see what is in the realm of the possible. After a quick chat and sending him some links on things on sale. The final result is that he returned the emonda (got $3800 back due to the 10% restocking fee) and Purchased the Quick Pro AR: One. For $3800 he got the frame, tavelo bars, Sram Red mini groupsets ($1K), Sram Force 11-28 cassette, Sram Rival crank with power meter, Bottom bracket. He had already purchased wheels separately that he had planned on using for an upgrade to his new emonda, so that is not part of the $3800 cost. So for the same money we got a bike that is probably going to be 15 pounds vice 20 pounds, will be more aero and proabably WAY more responsive, but maybe less foregiving over hard bumps, but IT IS A RACE BIKE. If he had done this from the start and had an extra $400, he could have gotten an carbon crankset with power meter.

[@GCPerformance18]

thats nice,, yea you can get a really nice value bike that performs amazing right now, with components the rider wants and hand picks to there liking instead of buying a stock bike with stock parts that need to be swapped for fit and also performance

[@bpsmash]

Until they start working on design, brand names and most importantly geometry they won’t challenge anyone. This might be a nice frame but it literally looks like a 300$ bootleg frame from Ali express

[@markwright8030]

HI GC PERFORMANCE Great job on your video as always 👍 you could make this a super light 1X bike with some sub 1300 gram wheels and light weight group set 👍 ❤ the colour scheme 👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@travispyle2905]

That is what my buddy did, For $5K he should have a 14+ pound bike (sram red mini groupset for $1K, this frame and tavelo bars for $2100, and Farsport 1220 gram 50 deep wheels for deep discount repeat customer price, carbon crankset with power meter, etc). I talked him into returning his newly bought emonda SL6 that was $4200 with sram rival and 20 pounds, to do the build mentioned above.

[@morrisizing]

It's interesting how it stacks up against the Spear if these 2 bikes currently represent the best 2 race bike from Chinese brands. P.s if Its UCI registered better tell St Pirian

[@saveriodipoce2201]

Since i do not do the Pirenei,Dolomiti,Alps i do not need disc.Do they make a rim brake frame?

[@savagepro9060]

GC wanna be a GC rider! Imagine the PERFORMANCE. UCI: “Uh, sounds illegal”

[@GCPerformance18]

hahaha

[@naf2579]

To racey for me with that long reach and low stack.

[@ciprian7]

IS either negative news and vibes from the bike industry or what China sends to Florida, Happy Thanksgiving

[@GCPerformance18]

I do regular bikes too. Just people complain the price is too high

[@ciprian7]

@@GCPerformance18 i have been watching from the beginning, been fun seeing the channel grow

[@gwaping2k]

These chinese brands need to think of better names on their brands, quickpro sounds so generic 🙄

[@rudi9358]

Build it already damnit 😅

[@galenkehler]

They really need to work on their sizing for the western market. On average, we're taller, so these tiny bikes, and calling a Medium frame and XL is just confusing

[@GCPerformance18]

lets see how it goes because I am a large

[@galenkehler]

@GCPerformance18 the short head tubes effectively reduce the reach, in comparison to other bikes. If you keep everything exactly the same, but just reduce the head tube, every centimeter of head tube that is removed increases the reach by 3mm. That's why the really big endurance bikes with 210-230mm head tubes fit so big.

[@Greg-d8e8e]

Buy now! Because Trump will raise taxes on Chinese imports to 60%.

[@GCPerformance18]

lmao there are still tarriffs in place from last time he was in the office it is nothing these comapnies have not seen before

[@sarahtoustra7127]

Those frames won't be as affordable when Trump puts a 40% tariff on imports from China 😂. Get yourself one during this black friday before it's too late!

[@tofadeisastart]

I’d rather have a heavier s works then “quick pro” on my downtube 😂

[@GCPerformance18]

people tend ot forget a name has to start out somehwere, you think everyone jumped with joy when people came up with the name trek, or cannondale??

[@BrianMcDonald]

I feel like it's unfortunate to see all the nice materials and high quality painting techniques go to making a bike that looks like a Walmart bike graphics package.

[@stiniusdahl9789]

Hardware = Better Bolts Titanium!!

[@ciprian7]

And another one! i am patiently waiting for the day when one of this frames could come out of China and be as good or better than a Sl8, absolutely same story so far, good values, supper light but not as good, i like GC and his channel but i am turned off by these abundance of Asian bikes advertised here, been a long time since we got some good coverage of something else

[@GCPerformance18]

I cover other bike brands and other models but all the comments are how expensive everything is and how no one will buy it, I showcase mid level models and high end modles and no one is having it, and also all the western companies have calmed down releasing new items because they all blew there load with releasing product after product during the covid bubble because there was no end to buying. I still am doing new bikes but specialized has not released a new road bike in forever, scott has the new addict releasing tomorrow but the price tag is gonna be steep

[@kimwarner6050]

This bike looks just like an SL8. I suppose they are targeting people who can't afford one.

[@thewattlife]

Branding is always the problem for these brands.

[@BradRossetto]

You would think it would be easy enough to hire a western marketing company to work up the branding - even Joe, he's over there, he would be vast improvement on all the Lucky Gold Star branding...too easy..

[@milkbunnies]

Fast, Aesthetics, Cheap - You can only pick two. Quick Pro = Might be fast, yes it's Cheap...but it looks ass

[@ricric9521]

Maybe not mention they use 10 year old technology

[@Sam321go]

the only chinees bike i care about is that astana 2025 bike very curious. chinees bikes look so cheap.

[@nochancecw]

Cybrie carbon cranks are lighter than durace, farsport wheels lighter than roval by a longshot, and frame close to the weight of an SL8. Its crazy the quality and price savings coming out of china direct products right now. By the time the SL9 comes out, there will be real top level comp. Super cool stuff. Keep up the great vids.

[@jou3708]

Now we know "lighter" means "quality" in chinese😂

[@reinholdachleitner2069]

Awesome video and excellent value for money frameset,the 2 tone color and metallic blue looks super,what is your inseam measurement,the seatpost was really high,my inseam is 34inches.💯✌🏻🚴‍♂️

[@GCPerformance18]

thanks so much, I have not set the seatpost yet I just put the post in at the minimum requirement but I think I am like 78-79cm

[@ranjithpowell6791]

Why? It’s quick and it’s pro. What’s wrong with that?

[@nationsnumber1chump]

maybe they will send me a free frame 😔

[@GCPerformance18]

reach out to them

[@nationsnumber1chump]

@GCPerformance18 😆 I think that might be a little too small for me

[@smokeoutfpv4132]

Too bad the reach is about 3m long.

[@GCPerformance18]

thats a good thing or a bad thing for you?

[@smokeoutfpv4132]

@GCPerformance18 a bad thing sadly, as with the majority of these Asian frames. Would end up with ridiculously short stems to try and keep the reach sensible. Seka are about the only ones to get this something like more reasonable. Everything else is comparable +10mm/+15mm

[@Livitt351]

Shill much 😅😅

[@donwinston]

What world do you live in? High socks are dorky.

[@GCPerformance18]

thats all I wear

[@Glanton74]

Unfortunately this is the point where I will probably give up on the channel. Shilling obvious Chinese garbage might pay the rent but it is not a long term strategy

[@GCPerformance18]

Yes shilling china garbage

[@petecollis4980]

Please DO NOT fit carbon thru axles … future failure 😢

[@GCPerformance18]

I have them in my tarmac sl8

[@66mikkim]

1900 buck for a china frame is to much....the sooner they get that message the better...and the naming why not fast pro, or slow pro, or what about NO PRO.....and btw.....who gives a F what a china team is riding?

[@GCPerformance18]

because those are the same people who use to race on high end race teams that fell off they are legit pros, and now you are seeing china brand sponsoring the astana team in the tour de france, they are becoming more and more notable in the grand scheme of things. 1900 bucks aint bad for a high quality frame to be honest

[@66mikkim]

@GCPerformance18 With Elves as an example ,I can get a high quality frame, that has a local contact, custom color options, and a person I can call in case I have any issues, for 1000 bucks. And the brand that is sponsoring the TdF team is a big money player in the business. And still...no one outside of China cares, what they are racing on.

[@scotthill3286]

copy cat. request your own content too much follower content.

[@GCPerformance18]

I do alot of my own content, go back and look at the channel its not my fault that people send me stuff

[@jayobannon5359]

I agree, price point looking good. But let’s be real. The majority of people will not be comfortable on that bike. Why don’t you do some videos on bikes that the majority of riders will be comfortable riding.

[@jou3708]

He is showing and telling what he is paid for