This Is The World's Largest EV Charging Station!

Kyle is in Merklingen, Germany where he finds the world's highest number of charging points in one place, 259! Enjoy as he checks out this AC charging park meant for commuters and park + ride.
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[@mtnman1984]

What's great about this is it shows an integration of an EV with public transportation. Here in America, we are so concerned with range anxiety because regional or even local public transportation isn't widespread. With places like this, you don't need an EV with a 400 mile range and the heavy battery pack that comes with it. You can have a 200 mile range with a much lighter pack and higher efficiency overall.

[@FuncleChuck]

Yes. “Range Anxiety” is another symptom of our absolute failure as a nation to provide transit. The US is one of the worst developed nations on earth for freedom and opportunity because we can’t travel without a wildly expensive personal car.

[@tazeat]

@@FuncleChuckNational transit (aside from airplanes) is only a failure due to lack of demand due to widespread ownership of personal cars and cheap energy... You can't will something to exist even with a bazillion tax dollars if the people don't generally want it in any significant numbers. Have you taken Greyhound or Amtrak? Unless you have someone picking you up on the other end it's a pain in the ass. Americans, in general, drive or fly then rent a car to drive wherever they're going.

[@FuncleChuck]

@@tazeat we spend a bazillion tax dollars on the roads, so yeah, you absolutely can will it to exist.

[@ab-tf5fl]

This comment reminds me of road trip where I did something that most would consider unthinkable and used an Electrify America 350 kW stall as a park-and-ride destination charger. The issue is that the next driving segment was going to traverse 175 miles with 4000 feet of net elevation gain, passing by zero chargers along the way, so I wanted all the range buffer I could get. But, my car is a Bolt, and charging a Bolt from 10% to 100% takes far longer than I am willing to spend sitting around at a big box store when I don't need to buy anything. What I wanted to do was go explore the city center while the car was charging, but the only chargers in the city center were level 2's, and charging that much on level 2 would take far too much time. So, while planning the trip from my home computer, I researched the city's transit system and discovered a rapid bus that runs every 10 minutes, that just happened to go straight from the Electrify America to downtown. So, I plugged into the EA and went straight to the bus stop, rode the bus downtown, explored the downtown for an hour (which was about right), then rode the bus back to the car to continue the trip. I arrived back to a car pulling 10 kW, right as it ticked from 99% to 100%. I unplugged immediately and went on my way.

[@BlendedFamilyMan]

The LAX economy parking lot might have this one beat.

[@atoz09093]

At the 5:00 mark, the 1 MWh per year number can't be right. My home rooftop installation produces about 13 MWh per year. Based on some overhead photos I've found of the site, it looks roughly big enough to be a 1 MW installation, which would produce about 1500 MWh per year in my area--maybe more like 1200 MWh in Germany.

[@CyWS17]

DCFC shouldn’t be a worry in Merklingen. Next to the Autobahn Exit a few hundred meters away from the train station you can find 64 HPC CCS plugs (40 x Tesla, 16 x Ionity, 6 x Aral pulse, 2x EWE Go). With awesome infrastructure so also worth a visit.

[@margu4u]

I was charging there yesterday ;-) Genau da hab ich gestern geladen.

[@daves1646]

This type of charging park seems like a great idea for Airports in the US. When bidirectional charging gets built into the majority of EV’s, could use them for grid support and give the owners that agree to ‘buffer’ the grid free charging to NET add a predetermined # of kWh during their stay.

[@FuncleChuck]

My local airport has a mix of ~20 J, CCS, and Tesla chargers in their short-term hourly garage (>$25 max per day with you towed in a week, and like $5 for an hour) that are free charging they’re always full. The long term lot has none The offsite lot HAD ~40 free AC spots and took them out. They put in a DC charger instead (and only let you don’t have enough range to get home)

[@ab-tf5fl]

Charging at airports also works great when combined with valet parking, as it allows even a small number of chargers to service a large number of cars, since valet staff can unplug and move cars immediately after they finish charging. Even if too many EVs arrive to fully charge all of them, the valet staff can still prioritize the cars that arrive with the lowest battery level and unplug cars at 60% or 80% to get the maximum benefit out of a limited resource. Of coarse, for anybody that lives in a city and has home charging, the airport should be close enough to you that charging the car at the airport itself is unnecessary.

[@NicoSchurr]

The employee parking garage for Mercedes R&D Sindelfingen, P307, actually beats this one. It offers 283 plugs at Chargepoint AC chargers that can deliver up to 22kW a plug (experiments for load shifting are running in some garages). The other garages in Sindelfingen also have chargers, namely 231, 126, 97 and 94 plugs. Now normally I wouldn't count a company's parking garage but all the chargers are publicly accessible and support roaming in addition to a chargepoint account. Some have cables, some don't. You should come check it out next time you're in town. You'll be hard pressed to find a spot during the day!

[@margu4u]

Zwar interessant, aber aufgr. der Lokation natürl. nur für MAs dort relevant (sowas wäre ja vorallem an Bahnhöfen etc. wichtig, wie eben in Merklingen ...um "Fern"-Pendler dann vom EV in die öffentl. Verkehrsm. zu bekommen).

[@webluke]

While on my last work trip, I parked at a metro parking garage in Washington, DC. To park it was $7; to charge it was a lot per Kw, and there were fees if you parked longer than 30 minutes. Not to mention, to get into the DC government buildings area, it took 1 hour, so not a single car was using the charging mid-day on a Thursday. Lots of these charging locations seem like a good idea. However, they are so piss poor executed both by governments and private operators, along with the still high price of an electric vehicle and increased insurance, all while inflation from poor government policies and printing money for wars were not part of. It has people looking to get more life from an older gas car.

[@cauthoncrazy]

Curious to know where you were! I am low key shocked at poor ev infrastructure in DC.

[@kingbran923]

Destination charging is extremely important. I didn't know how much so until I arrived at my destination at about 20% knowing my car would sit there at that low SoC. I was surprised to find a 6kW charge point charger, so I plugged in and left it there for about 5 hours. Came back and the car was back up to just under 80% and the whole session is about $.90 which is amazing. I love that because it means I can leave sentry mode on and not have to worry about anything :)

[@rainermenes5921]

Kyle in Merklingen :-). You are everywhere there is something new in the EV-world. Just stumbled over this site a few days ago checking charger on the way to Stuttgart. First I thought it is a mistake but it isn't. I guess this how it must be in a full EV-future ABC (always be charging). Enjoy a Christkindlmarkt while being in Germany.

[@UnnDunn]

In the US, LAX has 500+ L2 EV chargers on its property, including 305 at the LAX Economy Parking garage. They also offer reservations. So you book a spot, drive in, plug in, then take the free shuttle to the airport to board your plane and go on your trip while your car charges at 6+kW.

[@IronmanV5]

I have to disagree with you on the charging cable. Having your own eliminates the need for adapters and ensures the cable will be long enough to reach your charge port.

[@tombudetti5502]

Reduces the risk of wear and tear, abuse and vandalism too

[@FuncleChuck]

Also lowers the cost to install these stations. Which means you can install more of them. US got this one wrong IMO.

[@tombudetti5502]

@@FuncleChuckthe SAE adoption of NACS standard will open the door to these cordless stations in the US

[@CyWS17]

The EU doesn’t have the adapter problem for many years now. Type 2 and CCS2 were made mandatory in 2013. Fixed cable or not, today there are only a handful of models that need adapters for AC, probably less than 1% of todays EV fleet in the EU. The cable question is not related to your adapter chaos ;)

[@Arakyrie]

Here in Chile we have a 160 AC stalls station charger in the "Parque Arauco" mall, not bad for a South American site

[@daves1646]

BYOC? I like it. I find MANY Lev2 chargers with cables that have been twisted to the point of knotting (just yesterday @ Walmart); cant help them last long. And we NEED fully functional lev2 at every store in the US to make it easy for everyone (even Apt dwellers) to stay at a good SOC. I would bring my own, only to know it will work.

[@Orbit353]

Kyle, you mentioned Oslo airport. There, in the P10 garage floor 3, there are four all-EV isles with 379 AC chargers. In the adjacent P11 on floor 1, there is additional 348. So even if you limit a location to a single floor in a single building, Oslo airport is already ahead of Merklingen. (I'm although not sure if even Oslo airport is the worlds largest AC charging hub)

[@alberts8075]

I agreee with you that there are the DC Chargers missing. 2-4 would probably be enough for people who have to pick someone from the train and need a charge on the way home. Just around the corner is also one of the biggest DC Charging Station in Germany with a lot of stalls (more than 64) and a nice restaurant

[@Lynyrd_Evnyrd]

The new SAE J3400 NACS standard calls on us to go to the European style of Level 2 where you bring your own cable. It’s possible because NACS latches on the Vehicle side like Type 2 does. I think it’s a good thing for reliability. Any theft or vandalism is limited to harming only one driver rather than taking down the charger for everyone until it gets fixed.

[@otkristo]

Oslo Airport Norway have 727 22kw charging spots🇳🇴👍🏻

[@chrisrussell418]

Here in UK I have never seen an 11kw destination charger with its own lead and I think most of Europe is the same. Hotels, Centre Parks and National Trust car parks all use similar. Up until recently many were free to use, never thought that would last long.

[@onlineo2263]

Now most of them are as expensive as DC rapid charging and seem to average 60-90p per kwh. When Tesla are 40-50p at superchargers, and overnight home charging is 7.5p kwh it means that we never destination charge unless we desperately need to. It is the difference between paying £5.50 to fill up at home or £55 to fill up away from home (or £30 at Tesla).we are off to meet relatives tomorrow. I've googled the destination and the car is charging to 95% tonight. We should be fine even with an extra half hour side trip.

[@djlorenz11]

Great idea to put 4 sockets all together, very smart in saving installation costs

[@StewartMidwinter]

My first reaction was that I thought it's lame that the charging points are all only AC and not DC. But then I realized it is a park-and-ride at a train station. So by definition, your car will be sitting there for hours, or perhaps even days. You don't need high current. It's actually a smart idea. why doesn't every airport park-and-ride have these already?

[@PeaceChanel]

Thank You Kyle for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste.. 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤

[@wilfriedkaiser]

Let me add some context. Manny in Germany live on the countryside and they would arrive by car and take the train for the last kilometers to enter Stuttgart for work. That’s much faster than taking the car all the way. There are also fastchargers nearby. There is a study that showed that due to preconditioning Teslas that have often been fast charged show no larger battery aging than Teslas that have never or rarely been fast charged

[@abraxastulammo9940]

7:38 I bought a coiled/spiral cable that does not hang on the ground.

[@SkaBob]

Makes sense. 259 11kw chargers would be 2850kw total capacity assuming 100% use. But only 8 350KW would also draw 2850kw at 100% use. When you will be parked several hours speed isn't important and this is a great idea.

[@tonyn3227]

Europe is ahead of us in many ways, when will we ever get a charging station like this, I guess never.

[@robinsonshawqx]

Nah, the Minle Park+Ride charging station (close to where I live) in Shenzhen, China has 637 DC chargers, and is still not the largest charging station in the world.

[@RoamingNorway]

I prefer cables that are mounted on stations as well. I do, however, have one really short cable and one longer one with me at all times. The short one is pretty easy to carry and plug in, and has a button for the Tesla charging flap. In most cases, it is possible to use that one.

[@jelloMohnny]

10-ish kW is perfect in my mind - we have a good number of public L2 chargers in our town but they all pull 5 kW, which is disappointing. “Fast”-er L2 is great for destination chargers. Awesome application of L2

[@rickbullock4331]

That was really quite awesome to see. I was thinking that maybe with the amount of time you spend in Germany you might learn a little of their language,not a full blown course just a few words used around charging stations possibly.🤔😬🙄

[@mattsimon931]

I just attended a public meeting for my local areas planning commission regarding public EV charging. They wanted to explore everything involved with putting charging stations throughout our areas. A subject I brought up was to also consider power generation and storage. No one in either area involved was thinking about those 2 pieces of this big puzzle. My ideal site would have solar canopy, to a charger that has both battery storage and grid tied supply.

[@50cts]

I‘m totally agreeing with you regarding the attached cables also as a German driver. Those chargers are available also with attached cable but this makes it more expensive for the CPO in terms of invest but also following costs for maintenance and repairs. As Germans are not so much willing to pay for service I understand the decision of CPOs to go for chargers with no attached cables eventually though personally I don’t prefer it like that.

[@Iceeeen]

It's already allmost impossible to make a profit on a AC charger. The installation and just the monthly fee is quite steep and it will be many years before you se anything at all. Ad to that some charger going down and needs a manual reset on site. Just every second month and profit gone. To also having to inspect the Ac cable (with is required by law if you follow the rules) would make it impossible. To draw customer to your bussines yes, as point of profit, nope.

[@steveallwine1443]

I’ve been seeing a lot of level-II and level-III stations in the Seattle area where copper thieves have been cutting off the cords. Facility owners of the level-II stations don’t even bother fixing them, since the cost is prohibitive. Bringing your own cable systems like Europe would be a good solution to prevent this.

[@tazeat]

This makes a ton of sense for park and ride people that can't charge at home too... I can see them justifying this install by the number of people it enables. Not sure you'll see much demand for similar installs in the US until gas prices go back up though

[@TimCristy]

Here in Columbus, OH, the bus system has been putting in 6kw ChargePoint units at the park and ride lots that are free.

[@elektrischunterwegscom]

Problem in Germany is, that many charging contracts have a 4h time limit, after that there is a penalty paid per minute. Last I paid 10€ extra because the Model S needed the 1,5h more to get to the charging state I needed.

[@HeikoElectric]

Deswegen ergibt es auch keinen Sinn...und für 42ct lädt jeder der kann lieber Zuhause. Das sollte in der eher ländlichen Gegend auch oft möglich sein. Laternenparker gibt es da sicher nicht so viele.

[@JP-sw5ho]

I wish that my local grocery store parking lots had 10 or 20 11KW AC chargers

[@stevemcgowen]

The parking garage at my flat here in Prague has free charging...

[@RyanWilliams222]

11:00 points for using “literally” correctly 👍🏼

[@ulwur]

The parking structure at tele2 arena in stockholm has more than 700 charging spots. Thats more than this

[@robinsonshawqx]

Exactly. It's definitely up there, but is definitely nowhere close to being the largest.

[@BlendedFamilyMan]

The LAX Economy parking lot might have this one beat. They have most stations still covered in plastic because there still aren't enough users.

[@Chloe_Priceless]

The Train Station Parking Lot has 875 kWp Installed PV, it will Produce around 900 MW. I think real DC/FC is not a Problem. Around the Corner is a Big Tesla Supercharger, Ionity and Fastned Charger together with over the Street some Aral Pulse Charger. In that Fast Charge „Park“ you have a Nice Restaurant/Small Local Backery and Local Butcher Shop inside of the „H-AlbZeit“ Some Wordplay of Halftime and the Region (Schwäbische-Alb). Also there is a Burger King directly next to the Charging Station. Over the Street is also a Supermarket and maybe some few Minutes walk a MC Donald’s - but you are almost finished charching when you arrive at the mc Donald’s you have to make a u turn 😅

[@danielcapizzano5805]

Are there any more videos with this Taycan coming? It looks stunning in that spec

[@cez8017]

There is a parking in Stockholm with over 500 points. Hagastaden P-hus västra

[@MagnusHolmberg-NetSec]

Not really the biggest, Arenagaraget (Tele2 Arena) in Stockholm, Sweden has 768 AC Type 2 chargers. Sadly only 3.7kW but its for events.

[@ab-tf5fl]

I really like the idea of destination charging at park and rides. For the suburban commuter, it's functionally equivalent to having charging available at all of the numerous destinations the buses and trains serving the park and ride go to, but much simpler and easier to construct, since the charging is consolidated to a few parking lots, with these parking lots out in the suburbs, where there is much less constraints around parking spaces and utility conduits than in the city itself. It should be a basic expectation that every commuter parking lot - particularly the large ones - have charging available. And I say this even for U.S. cities where driving is the norm and the commuter parking lots are served by buses, rather than rail. 250 chargers may be overkill for a place like suburban Houston. But, if such a park and ride has bus service, it must clearly have *some* usage to justify it, and with the cost of running a single bus for a single day roughly equivalent to that of putting in a few level 2's, there is really no excuse for any commuter park and ride lot to not have any EV charging in it, whatsoever. I'll also mention that the ultimate goal of public level 2 charging is not for people who already have home charging to plug into it - these people don't need it - it's to make it feasible for people who can't get home charging to own an EV. In order to accomplish this goal, public charging needs to have lots of spare capacity so that people can feel like they can depend on finding a charger available, even as the EV market share grows, without needing to depend on somebody outside their control to recognize the increase in demand and install additional capacity. 259 chargers may seem like a lot, but this is a level where somebody who lives in an apartment nearby and commutes from this station daily can feel confident that if they buy an EV, they will have no trouble charging it in the foreseeable future, even if they lack the ability to charge at home. Had the station decided to put in only 2 chargers instead of 259, people would not have such confidence, so when the time comes to choose their next car, they'll go with gas. So, even if it may be expensive, this does seem like the right thing to do. And also, the fact that users need to supply the cables drastically reduces the financial cost of massive charger overbuilding, which makes installations like this financially possible. The U.S. definitely needs to do something similar.

[@csf1757]

When you distinguish AC vs DC charging what you actually mean is low power/low speed charging vs fast charging. Fast chargers are always DC; slow chargers can be AC or DC but are usually AC. You actually mean AC slow chargers vs DC fast chargers which is easier written as level 2 vs level 3 chargers

[@michaelsmithers4900]

Thanks

[@williamclark6466]

This is an excellent charging installation.

[@craigarnold1212]

Think of it as the place to park when you go to see a football game with a hundred or two of your friends... All AC their is 240 in the home. So the infrastructure is more robust.

[@temper44]

Kyle, you should take a trip to Shanghai or Shenzhen and do some reporting on what they to right or wrong about EV's as well.

[@joelado]

When you drove through and found that almost all the cars there were ICE cars tells you something. If all the spaces at this parking facility also came with AC charging, that would be ideal. It doesn't matter where you park your EV, because you have access to a charger everywhere. Also, you don't have to worry about being iced out of a charging spot, or have another fully charged EV just sitting in the only spots available for EV charging, waiting for his or her owner to come back from work so you can plug in. However, you didn't mention if this was the case. It looked to me that there were a lot of ICEd spots there. There are questions that have that would make this type of installation effective. This is a place between cities you said. Are the homes in this area high density without dedicated places for the people living there to park? The reason I ask is that this would necessitate a place other than home where EV owners can charge. Next question is, do people who live nearby but don't have access to charging at home also don't have access to public transportation to get to the train station? This would necessitate them having to drive their EVs to the train station in order to commute to one of the two cities which, I assume are at a distance from this location. The reason I ask is that AC level 2 charging is only useful with 300 mile ranges on average for EVs now days when you have a long period of time to charge. If people in the area of the train station don't have home access to charging, odd for a non-urban area, and they don't have access to bus service to the train station, also odd but what do I know it may be the case, then their only opportunity to charge for long periods of time is while they are at work at such a facility. Are there a large number of hotels in close walking distance to the train station? Hotels that don't have charging available to their patrons? A facility like the one above might encourage Europeans to purchase an EV since they can put it into use right away for their commutes without having to wait for their level 2 chargers to be installed at home. However, once they get a home charger installed they probably will be happy to park in a normal parking spot without the extra expense of having to pay for the electricity at a commercial charging station. I think their money would have been better spent on having 20 DC fast chargers at a nearby shopping/restaurant district and maybe 50 AC level 2 chargers at the train station for that specialized group that doesn't have access to dedicated parking and charging overnight at home in the suburbs.

[@Madonsteamrailways]

I charge my Renault Zoe at either the BP/M&S station in Hoddesdon or the Instavolt charging station in Chipping Ongar.

[@carl9901]

Fast charging is great for destroying your battery prematurely. This here is the way to go whenever time allows

[@alancobbin]

Yep that definitely beats Birmingham UK by 77,superb 👍

[@magnusjohansson5383]

Arenagaraget (Tele2 Arena) in Stockholm has 786 charging parking spots @3,7kw Type2

[@CommentTaire]

That says something. To quote you: "maybe you need to go here do this go there do that come back fast..." THIS IS THE PROBLEM! Your sentence starts with MAYBE. Kyle, you're an expert. You've seen it all. And still, there you are, you're trying to guess what's the dance IT wants you to make. Do you ever do that with gas stations? Of course not. Tell me Kyle, what is the road map from here, to the point where charging is as simple as pumping gas. I'm a happy ID4 owner. Happy mostly because I do 100% of my charging at home.

[@JonathanHarvell]

Well, up until they start getting heavily utilized, they can probably sell the excess energy to cover their costs somewhat.

[@pschweiz]

I hope that then at least they don't charge you penalties for leaving your car plugged in longer than needed. But cool station. Not sure I will ever have a need to go there, but if you live in the area, I guess it is a great place.

[@oliver-mandic]

You should hop over to the most beautifully situated Supercharger in Senj, Croatia while you're on this side of the pond. 🙂

[@gery4870]

Incredible station !! May be is too large, but parking lot with 50 charging piles would be really nice !

[@RuneVenes]

I would bet that those 260 points is load balanced.

[@DerBlauzahn]

Electric City Rüsselsheim like "hold my beer", about 3x200 charging points at one spot.

[@turnersinsurance8656]

while here in America we don't use such a massive Train-based travel infrastructure, it makes more sense for those in Germany and other countries... in the U.S., though, a massive Level 2 AC charging station would not make much sense...we ONLY need DC Fast Charging, and with SPEED as the primary concern. Oh well, let's hope these types of ideas will spread into the U.S., and create a scenario where a large GAS Station-based brand will build a DC Fast Charging ONLY Station, with a Convenience Store/Restaurant attached... we sit for 1/2hour to 1hour time and need restrooms and convenience maybe even MORE than most.

[@nicholasrigg8999]

Amazing example of forward thinking

[@vinnypugliese4510]

What’s a good spare tire kit for a MYLR 2022 stock tires. Thanks

[@derricklaw1]

Kind of too bad that DC to DC isn't a thing yet. DC solar panels to DC EVs with DC battery backup without as much conversion losses or need for AC converters in the cars seems like the future. The chargers could even be limited to the same 11 or 12 KW. At any rate, it's going to be fun to see the evolution of charging infrastructure as time goes on and it gets more accessible and efficient. Thanks Kyle.

[@alberts8075]

Just under a Kilometer away is one of the biggest DC Charging Hub in Germany with more than 64 DC Stalls. But I agree that there should be at least 4 DC stalls for people who just pick up someone from the train station

[@FuncleChuck]

It is a thing. These just aren’t DC chargers.

[@derricklaw1]

@@FuncleChuckLevel 2 DC chargers are a thing? Where can I buy one? At home my solar panels go from DC to AC then my car converts it back to DC for the battery. Conversion losses occur each time. I'd love to just be able to have a solar set up directly to a DC charger.

[@derricklaw1]

@@alberts8075 I was referring to Level 2 DC. Directly from solar panels to the car without any AC conversion, then to and from batteries as backup. If slow DC chargers are a thing already, cool, I wasn't aware.

[@alberts8075]

@@derricklaw1 That would be really great. But I have never heard of such an array in public charging in Germany. But maybe something like that will come in the future

[@TassieEV]

If your there for a long period such as at a train station then this is perfect. Never mind the buses going past and wonder if they are EV buses a well. Where Europe is farther ahead than other countries for public transport.

[@jjkbigman]

Keep some wipes in with the charging cable and clean it as you put it away like plumbers do after cleaning your sewer pipe out

[@tauzN]

Electricity is super expensive in EU. But no one is complaining because gas and gasoline is even more expensive.

[@MrDgt66]

:D

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

Noice, Taycan Cross Turismo. I've been to the 50+ 350 kW ladehub at Kamen a few times, that was impressive, but 250 🤯

[@robert5008]

Kyle please show us all sites including the AC ones. You never know when somebody around the world say's that a cool idea lets do that here. I will say this though on the AC pricing that I believe it should be closer but more to what you would pay at home though. Just like gas with 3 levels of octane rating with 3 different prices. Charging price should be based on charging speed IMO.

[@seymorefact4333]

🤩 WE need more competition...BYD, NIO, XPENG, HUAWEI, GEELY, SAIC...NEED competition to bring innovation, better range, and cost DOWN!

[@777Outrigger]

In Europe it's BYOC for AC charging.

[@AirmanJH]

Someone appreciates you activating their terminal. 😂

[@davidwilliambrowning]

I don't think there was a car parked in it from what I saw! Very strange

[@AirmanJH]

@@davidwilliambrowning I was thinking that also. But I am also pretty sure that the number only shows on the screen where a car is connected. Very odd.

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

In the EU,, having a few charging cards is convenient. Shell recharge, maingau, ANWB (netherlands)

[@djlorenz11]

Think about sites like this with V2G… you live your car there for a week or so and it helps the grid… hopefully v2g will progress a bit faster than now…

[@whaler4444]

Would like to see this mandititory at all new malls going forward. Solar to protect from elements and to charge vehicles.

[@Bercik87]

I also much prefer if station has it's own cable. Time saver - and for me time is priceless. It's somewhat good that regulation forces chargeports to make be able to pay with credit cards. But it's still amazes me that NOONE ELSE (other than Tesla) has so good user experience. You just plug and go away. Don't have to worry about currency, RFID chips, or using WRONG roaming cards. I hope all above clears out soon, because long distance trips are problematic if you don't own Tesla.

[@ab-tf5fl]

There is convenience in having the station provide its own cables. But buying 250 of them would have dramatically increased the costs to the operator, and possibly made the whole project uneconomical. I think a bring-your-own-cable model is more efficient, and the amount of time it takes to get the cable out of the trunk is still far less than it would take to make an extra stop at a DC charging station on the way home.

[@glenngore6609]

These types of sites are great where you are going to leaving your car for hours or days, but there is still a need for functional fast-charging sites, especially in the US where driving distances are much higher than in Europe. Both types of sites should be built in the US, but as yet they are not. Europe is FAR ahead of the US once again.

[@margu4u]

I charged there yesterday ! 😅

[@dhuffman690]

There’s no way that solar array only produces 1,000 kWh per year. It’s gotta be 1000x that or so

[@cargeek4777]

wow. 243 km at 96%. thats prettty low range...

[@tombudetti5502]

1 Megawatt of electricity per YEAR from that solar array? That is only 1,000 Kilowatts, that doesn’t sound right.

[@FuncleChuck]

Yeah that’s clearly a unit misunderstanding. 1 MWh per year is literally nothing. I assume he meant 1 MW array, but who knows what he was talking about?? 1 MWh per year is the common output of a single 450W panel.

[@tombudetti5502]

That’s my understanding as well. Kyle said it will produce 1 MW per year, perhaps just a mistake on his part

[@tombudetti5502]

@@FuncleChuck A 1 MW array should produce 1MW of electricity over the course of an hour under optimal conditions. So, optimally 6 hours per day of sunlight over the course of 1 year would be about 2,200 MW or 2.2 GW. At 10 cents per KW we are looking at $220,000 return per year from this array

[@FuncleChuck]

@@tombudetti5502at 4:58 Kyle said “One Megawatt Hour Per Year” He was very specific and it’s clearly not what’s going on here, unless they have a single solar panel 😂

[@BootlegSonicToy]

"Peak capacity is given at 875 Kilowatt, and the founders claim that the PV system produces up to 900,000 kWh of renewable energy a year."

[@Lucas-wp2ph]

Already in 2019 they opened a charging station in China with over 600 fast chargers.🤔

[@JeffReineke]

Germany. Wow they get it?

[@joeyandres]

1MWh per year is definitely not correct. My home generates 6MWh per year, up here in the North with 14kw system. I imagine, it is 1MW rated system? That can produce multiple MWh per day on summer?

[@Boomtendo4tw]

Eventually will need multi level charging garages

[@johnleeinslc]

Level 2 charging is under rated.

[@ua420]

Just 250 EVSEs? It should be quite cheap and easy to beat.

[@michaelsmithers4900]

Is AC the same as level 2?

[@FuncleChuck]

Yes.

[@AirmanJH]

If you plug in and hop on a train, is it possible for someone to steal your session?

[@ma40]

No, the cable is locked to the charger and car

[@BlazerRox]

Your station was 197 and you paid for 193 :D

[@bluebikerathar]

Amtron chargers by Mennekes ❤

[@gbphil]

But doesn’t the charging cost include the parking space as well as the electrical charge which could be ten hours for a commuter? 😎😇

[@timoliver8940]

No - often where we have T2 dispensers in public car parks where I live in Scotland so long as your car is plugged in you don’t pay to park.

[@gbphil]

@@timoliver8940 so you mean ‘yes’?

[@davidwilliambrowning]

Impressive site. Kyle, do you know how Germany currently generates their electricity? I heard that after the Japan nuclear power station disaster, Germany decided to decommission all their nuclear power stations. They were using a lot of coal, and Russian supplied natural gas before Putin invaded Ukraine. I wonder if they've been able to build enough renewable sources of power generation to compensate by now? If not, then German EVs aren't that green.

[@anm4238]

I think World's Largest EV Charging Station is Tesla Giga Berlin parking.

[@Dragonovus]

this to me shows how much better europe is than america. We are way ahead of most things here and smarter haha.

[@DoubleCTech]

I wish America was as enthusiastic about EVs as Europe is. We are falling behind again. 🙄😢

[@jaaklucas1329]

Same in Canada. We are petro-economies,all I can figure...

[@mcrkon]

Hey Kyle, 1 MWh per year doesn’t sound right.

[@wally8916]

thoughts on lucid going bankrupt?

[@Timo-qb1gf]

If only they'd get the trains running reliably and on time it might actually work as a concept.