This is the WORST Outboard of ALL-TIME! (JUNK!!!)

[@Rob_Basich]

If the Bayliner/Force combo were produced today, it would be branded Pittsburgh and sold at Harbor Freight.

[@TeamMarineService]

Hahaha so true!

[@5150Fishing]

😂😂

[@dustinsmartfishing]

How dare you!

[@russm8770]

When you fellas go to tour Precision Sonar, get with Fastbass Marine and give us a good review of the Allison XB-21. He is the #1 dealer in the country and is very close to Precision Sonar. I wanna see a real hands on review of one of those unicorns!

[@davidmiller4703]

Calm down Andy sometimes I wonder if Jordan is trying to give you a heart attack with the freaking Topix you are too important to our industry to leave us early keep phone keeping on brother

[@chadbooth4371]

This is a perfect description of Bayliner and Force! The first brand new boat and motor my dad ever bought. We lived on a lake and he had to wrench on that thing every single time we ever used it, which was almost daily! 18’ boat with an 85hp ran 25mph on a good day with one grown man and two kids!

[@j.m.5300]

I made a good living working on Force in the 90s. I was Force, OMC, and Merc certified.

[@nicholasr7987]

I still have a force from 1987, owned since 2012. Only plugs. Still has the same compression and never an issue. This boat runs 45. I must have had a good one. It did leak down on tilt. Cost $3.00 worth of off the shelf the rubber to fix, when it was 35 years old.

[@ronaldnewell4043]

Me too

[@panzer6398]

Betty Lou and Timmy are hilarious!

[@robbaxter5138]

Hahaha they call it Force cuz its gonna Force u to get a new motor!! Great vid, laughed the whole time!!

[@TeamMarineService]

You got that right!

[@kylecasetta4091]

This is the freaking funniest and truest video yet. Growing up on a lake in the late 80s through the 90s seen those blow up almost daily

[@c.shoefish]

This video was epic as hell. My dad had a force, had it for about 6 months, literally threw it in a metal bin and went and bought a brand new merc black max and ran that on his boat for about 15 years before he upgraded to a Yamaha.

[@USAsportsmanIdaho]

My local Force authorized repair center loved their motors, they were his highest income source. For a joke I had t-shirts made with a Force motor picture labeled Farce for his clients. It turned out to be his number one merchandise seller.

[@TeamMarineService]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 That’s awesome!!! Wonder if he has any still lying around?

[@HardmanOutdoors]

That whole segment was personal 😂😂😂😂

[@briggsmilner4481]

There is something satisfying to see Andy get all worked up, love it. Makes me feel less alone in the world and have to deal with shit.

[@TeamMarineService]

We are in this together buddy!

[@dward667]

I worked for a Bayliner boat dealer in Charleston SC back in the mid 80’s. We sold so many of those pos boats. Pure junk

[@TeamMarineService]

See a lot of warranty work?

[@randyyoung9892]

😂 they should do a whole Bass tournament where you have to run a Chrysler Force outboard on a Bayliner boat of some type it would be awesome there'd be more people getting towed in then there were contestants

[@TeamMarineService]

All of the bass within sight of the landing is getting caught!

[@ottercat8527]

The seams will fall out of that T-shirt just because it has Force wrote on it ! 🤣

[@TeamMarineService]

🤣🤣🤣 Haha hope not! Ya never know

[@JonGunnerOutdoors]

One of the best Team Talks for awhile. Love all the videos. But junk Force was Awesome! May order a shirt now lol!

[@TeamMarineService]

Glad you liked it Jon!

[@leonbarnett3104]

Hahahahaha... This episode is classic! I love it when Andy gets worked up!

[@leonbarnett3104]

I bought my first boat, a 17' Larson with a 130 Mercruiser, in 1989. Not exactly the best boat around, but I recall looking at Bayliners and decided against it specifically due to the Force outboard.

[@grantschimek6506]

Ordering the shirt just to wear team marine and force together on a shirt! Andy is the man, love to see him get fired up! Hilarious

[@billycroan1992]

I had a late model force by Mercury 70 hp. Parts were quicksilver, so that made me feel like it really was a merc. Weak compression on top cylinder, outside of that, it was okay, well and the lower unit leaked too. Lol

[@Basscater81]

I can see a guy trying to pull start his 85hp Force at the ramp in his jean shorts and Voits 😂

[@jnorth5689]

" you know how many people died ". " 200 yards boom, row it back in " lmao

[@charliejackson9988]

Hey the Force motors make really good anchors ⚓️ 👌

[@bigham1jb]

That comment about the Balsa Liner. Was uncalled for! 😅

[@swampbass6494]

Hahahahaha Andy made my day! I could not stop laughing! Because it’s true! I have out ran a force with my 1971 9.5HP Evinrude sport twin

[@TeamMarineService]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@mattkolstad9036]

A friend of mine bought a bumliner with a farce motor. I gave my opinion of it. He of course said it's a great boat. I haven't heard from him since. I was the best man in his wedding. I hope he's still alive!!!

[@Rob_Basich]

RIP😪

[@TeamMarineService]

Wow!!!!

[@TeamMarineService]

@@Rob_Basich 😬

[@leefalls1880]

I love it! 😂 my local boat mechanics won't even look at my 95! Mine leaks around the bottom currently lol

[@Flo-Joe]

I unfortunately owned one, the starter broke itself off the mount. Had it fixed and a month later gasket under the power head failed and was filling the cowling with water submersing the head. All this at under 40 hours, I was new and didn’t know any better. Only the 2nd worse outboard I’ve owned.

[@TeamMarineService]

Wow what was the worst?

[@Flo-Joe]

@@TeamMarineService A used 03 optimax, I can’t bash mercury for it. That motor nickel and dimed me until the day it died.

[@austindarvai]

I have one force 150 hp, and I have 2 mercury’s 200s . We bought the force with our bass boat from 1990 (it’s a bass hawk 1990 model.) do you think we should sell the force and put on the mercury? Or is it worth maxing it out before retiring it?

[@johnnysaechao6218]

Love the rant Andy! Lmfao 😂😂😂

[@PapaMav]

Well said.

[@zgambler1]

Dam dude..that was harsh I can't quit laughing..I'm gona go find a force motor and send it to you...

[@reviewsunboxings12]

My 97 mercury/force 40 hp on my boat has ran great for years. The only things I have had to do is a carb clean and starter besides basic maintenance. Still fires right up at the turn of the key. Definitely a shaky motor at idle but I love it.

[@anthonymacaluso1488]

Under a certain amount of horsepower they aren't as much like a grenade

[@Rushhy-p2q]

The video we didn’t know we needed 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@timothygregg2223]

Bro I have never seen anyone hate a marine product so bad much less two.😂. That was epic.

[@tompindell4243]

I love it! The biggest pile of shit ever made, and so many people that honestly thought they were good, until at BEST, second season with it! 🤣 I like the rant Andy! 😂

[@codyhooser3333]

Dang Jordan, you just had to get Andy's blood pressure up right before this Eclipse coming up on Monday 😅

[@TeamMarineService]

🤣🤣🤣 Someone’s gotta do it!

[@zepplinfan9000]

I put a 115 force on the back of a 17' alumaweld.. I loved it! It's a budget carbureted setup, keep it clean and maintained, mine was one that was a good one

[@DownSouthBassin]

I've had one for the last 20 years, 90hp. Finally blew up last year

[@TeamMarineService]

Wow you had some good luck with it!

[@DownSouthBassin]

@TeamMarineService I had it on a older boat I had just to run around the river hog hunting. But it was a damn good motor. Carburetors sucked and had to put one lower unit on it

[@melb.bassin]

Just bought my shirt and a sticker that's going right on my Force 125 motor!!!! 🤣 ...and you better Fing ship it!!!! 🤣

[@daleearnhardtfan3889]

Andy what's your thoughts on NORTHWOOD OUTBOARDS BY MERCURY MARINE could you make a video of your thoughts if you can thanx Konnor Koski

[@ronfussell8244]

In 82 my 135 johnson blew up,I was desperate for a motor and I heard about a Chrysler 135 that was new on a pallet for a grand,all the controls,stainless prop,huge 4 cylinder, 3 or 4 carbs,well got it on the boat,fired it up,put some run time,was actually fast,hauled it 3 hours,got a quarter mile from the camp and it quit,the ignition box just quit,put a new one in used it all summer,sold the whole thing,it looks like a model T motor.

[@toptoad7149]

My first outboard. The spark plugs didn't have a electrode. I was lucky no issue when I had it.

[@TeamMarineService]

Wow! Nice

[@OZD-mb2bs]

You're rants are borderline Bill Burr and its gold haha

[@TeamMarineService]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Joelontugs]

I came here for the sound effects and I was not disappointed lmao

[@billstopinski2568]

good video guys , it would be nice if you did a video about the johnson fast strike 150 since they put them on everything back in the early to mid 90's . thanks guys

[@TeamMarineService]

We are planning a GOOD, BAD & UGLY video on the fast strike and Intruder soon

[@melb.bassin]

Even though I have one I LOLed through this whole thing cuz U Right! When I bought my 1980 bass boat for $3500, it came with a Force 125 on it and whole extra one on a pallet!! Shoulda known I was in for it. 🤣... I blew up the first one after 3 years. I then swapped the powerheads and ran the 2nd powerhead for another year and it blew! Then, I looked and looked for an Opti but couldn't find one in or even near California for under $3000.... So guess what I did? I bought another Force 125 powerhead for $750 on Ebay. So... yeah... Force is a POS but it's my POS! Here's the full side of the glass.. I have fished almost every weekend for 4 years AND I learned how to work on outboards! I HAVE to get one of those shirts!!!!!! Thanks for the video... it made my day!

[@richardheatherly9575]

Almost as good as a Chrysler outboard😂

[@jeffjedlick6655]

I call them FARCE 😂

[@jeffk9405]

There is always that one in a million that refuses to die that virtually had no maintenance. I have personally seen one on the back of a Bayliner capri that looked like it went through a hurricane. Force motors had so much smoke coming from them everyone thought they were on fire.

[@TeamMarineService]

That’s so true

[@RedXCross1]

May the Force be with you

[@Resistculturaldecline]

Back when the old wedge shaped chryslers were a thing, we ran a boat race sanction called S.O.R.A (Southern outboard racing association). During some speed trials, there was a guy with a Critchfield that officially time clocked 85mph with a stock (powerhead) 85hp chrysler. The trim system was removed, and the engine locked in the perfect AOA, custom lower unit, custom prop, iirc a custom 12" mid-section, everything was lightweight as possible, all the things you see in racing. We couldnt figure out why he ran chryslers, unless he was a dealer but it was fast for the time, mid 1980s

[@omcbob37]

I think all the folks that designed the Force outboards went over to BRP and helped them come up with the Project Ghost Rotax underwater motor.

[@MikeWalker-bb5rg]

I’ve got a 99 90HP force and I can’t find anyone to work on the carburetors! It’s on a 98 nitro! Andy dream rig! Lol

[@TeamMarineService]

Yeah it’s going to be hard to get shops to work on it. Yes that babies my dream right now for sure! Hahaha

[@B-Head501]

That was awesome, so true 🤣🤣

[@akd333akd]

over here in the land of oz we call the mighty Bayliner... bin liners. biggest floating turds in the river.😂

[@TeamMarineService]

Hahahha

[@stube234]

Had an 1989 85hp on my bayliner. Thank God I had a 15hp Johnson kicker motor. Fished a few salmon derby’s with just the kicker.

[@brycehoffmann3237]

Same motor I had. Dad bought it brand new! We never knew if it was going to run or not! Added to the excitement or boating I guess! 😂😂

[@TeamMarineService]

Hahaha kudos to Johnson outboards for getting ya home

[@winstonrocco1981]

I got a neighbor that bought a new in box force 40 hp about 15 years ago He put it on a stick steering 15 ft kingfisher bass boat. He says it’s been a good trouble free motor. Far as I know it’s still running .

[@victorremick9721]

It was the plymoyh of the waterway

[@bobbellow5502]

Had a friend that had a 9.9. When he would stop somewhere for a while and try to re-crank the engine, the cowling would literally blow off in the air. He had it serviced and we went out fishing. Told me if it ever happens again he was going to unscrew it from the transom and leave it in the lake. Guess what, WE PADDLED back to the ramp. He was true to his word!

[@bobbellow5502]

I can' believe no comment from Andy.

[@justaregularperson23]

Not saying I like mine, but I have an '86 125 (since '86) on a '72 glastron that saldly had the original merc 135 lock up. It still runs, but I want to repower before it blows.

[@Flippersflops]

“It’s a Mercury Force.” 😂😂😂

[@mattcaplis3045]

LOL@"Drownding!" Great rant, because it's true.

[@williamwolff4684]

You should do a video on the evinrude Looper’s

[@ThreeBoysFishing]

I don’t think evening harbor freight would sell them to many returns 😂

[@TeamMarineService]

Probably not!

[@RickyCarter-ro8fr]

Speed Money No Brakes -- great video !!!!!!

[@TeamMarineService]

Thanks 👍

[@deuce012001]

Had A 125 on a Astro bass boat lasted 20 hours swapped it out to a 115 mercury and sold the boat four months after I bought it

[@TeamMarineService]

Wow! Went with less horsepower but picked up some mph I bet haha

[@deuce012001]

@@TeamMarineService yes ended up going with a champion with a 175 wish I still had the champ

[@larrylefebvre2237]

Andy probably saw the proof and it was blurry as shit because he forgot his glasses!!

[@joshrobertsdahl8983]

We were taught to never write a work order on them, help them turn around and leave the parking lot

[@TeamMarineService]

Smart!

[@extreamsportsenthust]

Someone do a video on these Chinese outboards on Amazon and alibaba. (Chinese Amazon)

[@437MotorsportsandOutdoors]

This makes me sad! lol I acquired a free 75hp Force off of a pontoon that they repowered . Was going to try it on a Sea Pro 170cc that I can get cheap $500 with no engine . But now I’m second guessing it! So what outboard would y’all recommend?

[@havocsquad1]

Definitely props to the Force outboard t-shirt making fun of those outboards. I'm somewhat tempted to actually want to buy one of those T-shirts. The problem with creating one to make fun of the Evinrude FICHT is doing so without using any trademarked logos that BRP still owns.

[@TeamMarineService]

We encourage you to find our Underboard shirt on our website! :)

[@TeamMarineService]

The FICHT shirt is next

[@andrewhensen8638]

Did force ever have a pro staff?

[@captainniles8345]

Priceless :)

[@captainniles8345]

can I choose 2 oars?

[@drifter8479]

Just dropped off this exact combo.... then I see this video lol

[@TeamMarineService]

We will take good care of her!

[@streetfighterfan500]

Tell us how you really feel! 😂😂. Great video.

[@murf77donnelly33]

Had a 91 125 force hard starting blow up the lower unit at 40mph glad to see that boat go.....

[@brookesmilbourn3188]

God I literally sprayed coffee out of my nose watching this haha 😂😂😂 I hate the force as well piles of sheeeet

[@TeamMarineService]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ripperace]

I repaired one for some chick I knew, in hopes of getting a piece….. Didn’t get that piece, but did get two pieces when I dropped the lower unit. Never seen one of them with a two piece driveshaft until that day. What a hunk of shit! Had another one that snapped the top of the crankshaft off where the flywheel nut threaded on. Junk junk junk junk junk!!!! Only took me two of them coming into my shop before I never worked on them again.

[@ardyarco5221]

I recently bought a 98 bayliner with a 90 mercury force on it. Got a great deal runs perfectly perfect interior got it from the original owner. Wish me luck lol a lot a people say the late model ones are great so 🤷. If it goes ow well then ill trough a used 115 merc on it.

[@ColeH-gn1cx]

The memories of my dad and I working on a 40hp force on a 16ft glass stream is the same as the rant in this video. People who haven't experienced the absolute hell it is honestly have no idea 😂

[@gorockets2050]

First, love you guys, great info!!!

[@TeamMarineService]

Thanks buddy! We appreciate you

[@crappiejoebaits1759]

Hey i hate to say it but i have a 89 force 50hp and ive never done anything to it but a water pump and cleaned the carb . But ive always waited for the day day it blows up 😂

[@kalebsheridan9017]

I got the same one, so far not a terrible motor. As dirt simple a motor you can find. Just put fresh gas in it.

[@erichohf88]

Everyone that worked for force went to work for rotex 😅

[@TeamMarineService]

That’s Jordan’s new conspiracy theory! Haha

[@tucanman9775]

gamefisher 2 stroke 15 hp weighs less than 60 lb. mine has 9.9 decals and pushes my 12ft cartopper to 20 mph i have 2 parts outboards i picked up for 75 a piece i always rebuild the fuel pump and delete the primer ball and they fire right up

[@alexniapas9243]

They’re called bay anchors for good reason

[@TeamMarineService]

Haha truth!

[@jediangler4901]

my first boat was a 96 skeeter ss140 base model, came with a 120 force, somehow made it last 18 years. guess the bass gods were smiling on me

[@Ricossmft28]

I have the exact same boat and motor a 95 model runs great and handles chop really well, first boat I’ve ever owned been a good experience so far

[@Briarhake418]

Please do another top ten bass boats

[@TeamMarineService]

Great idea! Somethings have changed

[@harveywalker1560]

What about the CHYSLER OUTBOARDs?

[@TeamMarineService]

Chrysler was bought by Bayliner and rebranded as Force. OG Chrysler outboards sucked too

[@nelsondvance]

I will admit I had a 1998 Astro 172 Fish with a "Merc" Force 120hp back in the day, that I bought used. I had a lot of fun in that boat and caught a lot of fish. Only replaced the starter. Kept my sanity levels in check while I was in the Navy. After a 1.5 years of ownership, I traded the boat and got a new boat with a Yamaha. I have not looked back. My Yamaha will outlive me.

[@chrisrogers3175]

Where's Jason doesn't he love working on the force hahaha

[@TeamMarineService]

Jason loves the Force

[@DizzyMan24]

So the Force Outboards are worse than Chrysler outboards? Cause i got a 105HP Chrysler, and i'm trying to have faith in it 😭

[@TeamMarineService]

Chrysler made the Force

[@DizzyMan24]

@TeamMarineService I know, lol. Mines is a 1967 model, so maybe the older ones were better, lol 😅.

[@kylevodden19]

Let’s talk more about the VLX. Dissect one they looks awesome

[@TeamMarineService]

We will do that in our upcoming iKon trip

[@hydro_rebel7741]

My cousin had a tracker pro team 175 with a 40 hp force engine and it lasted him just under 20 years. I believe he bought the boat in 2000.

[@randyshirk6156]

F@cking epic rant 😂🤣 love it

[@Billy-f2f]

I had a 50 and a 75 same problem with both replaced leaking power head gasket shortly after it was f ed again f ing junk mine was by mercury still junk. Now my dad has an 85 hp gorse by Chrysler f ing junk to. In my opinion mercury took a tired and tried to polish it.

[@philturinsky27]

I remember when i was buying my first boat and i was all excited about this lowe fishing boat but had a force motor on it and my dad stopped me. I'll never forget him telling me don't buy ANYTHING with a FORCE motor on it. I ended up with a lund Alaskan with a 60 Yamaha. I paid 12k for it brand new. I can't find a used one for that price anymore. I'll never forgive myself for selling that boat

[@jeffreyjensen1553]

Still see a lot of them out there

[@michaelchingman7376]

Because this is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂

[@breakfastboyboating]

I'd still argue the Force *looked* pretty cool. But that's the ONLY thing i'll give them.

[@TeamMarineService]

That’s fair, to each their own.

[@breakfastboyboating]

@@TeamMarineService no one’s ever accused me of having good taste to be fair lmao

[@eagleclaw6]

These videos crack me up! Lol

[@TeamMarineService]

Haha glad ya liked it

[@jimlem2075]

Plant that Purple Force on the back of a Purple Spectrum aluminum what a match made in heaven. Call it Purple Turd.

[@TeamMarineService]

Be the favorite boat of all Minnesota Vikings fans! #gopackgo

[@Guns_N_Gears]

​@@TeamMarineServiceso true🤣🤣🤣

[@Guns_N_Gears]

​@TeamMarineService go pack!!

[@broadfall1]

12 now, have the 1994 70hp on my nitro for the last 30 years. Always starts

[@crankfotton]

we had an 1988 Force 85. Underpowered, sucked fuel, was loud, smoked, but boy did it start every season. Other than maintenance like plugs, water impeller, etc. ours ran for 15 years no major issues. It just worked, but we took care of it.