This is Way Too Powerful! | Marneus Calgar | Warhammer 40k Spoilers | Magic the Gathering

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[@niccolo6865]

He has double strike becuase with a double powerfist he can literally melee tanks

[@Sparrow141420]

TCQ: This card is strong, and double strike to boot You: This card has lore-based mechanics. Me: *pokes Tarrasque with a stick* Me: ..come on buddy... do something plz... no? 😬 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Also me: Okay. Not today, let's go home. It's okay. You still have D&D at home, remember? Yeah, I think we'll tpk a group of adventurers tonight. That always cheers you up!

[@andersrolig]

Seeing as they are powerfists "Last strike" would fit :D

[@pureevil6047]

@@andersrolig He should have Normal strike an last strike.

[@adiuntesserande6893]

Marneus Calgar *is* the direct descendent of a god, so this level of power makes sense. Except for the part where he's more powerful than any god yet printed!

[@owlsayssouth]

he isn't. he is a genetticly augmented human. the emperor is just a human, and created the augmentations based partially on his own genetics. and the space marines weren't supposed to exist, and only were made to recover the emperor's "sons" the primarchs.

[@NinjaFresh]

@@owlsayssouth The Emperor isn't just a man heretic.

[@mikeyp266]

He's not a god, but more of an angel....and framed in that context his stats seem about right

[@loupnoir10]

@@owlsayssouth The creation of the Astartes was always part of the emperor plan, the primarchs were create to be the generals of the astartes. Plus Astartes are based on Primarchs geneseed who where made from part of genetics of the emperor and tribes of terra. Astartes are the remplacement for the thunder warrior who where too barbaric to be the figure of the imperium the emperor wants to promote.

[@aeonfist4000]

@@NinjaFresh Nonsense! He's the MAN Emperor of Man Kind, much stronger then any god. By comparing him to such weak entities is heretical in the extreme.

[@jumanjiman86]

Marneus+anointed procession+ashnods altar= draw your whole deck and either infinite colorless mana or infinite 2/2’s. Then lab maniac and win

[@runespoon001]

You also only need a ashnods and training grounds to make this new card draw your whole deck

[@kierancawley3990]

If you already have infinite 2/2's why do you need the lab maniac

[@markmarquis5580]

@@kierancawley3990 Same turn win without some form of haste.

[@kierancawley3990]

@@markmarquis5580 Ah fair enough

[@xavierlee2909]

Well you get infinite mana AND infinite 2/2’s.

[@DemonOfMyMind]

For me this would all be about Discard. There are some great ways to discard cards to create tokens. And giving use to dead cards is nice as well or stuffing those cards into your graveyard for value. I'll go through a list I think might be worth considering. Scuttletide, Call the Bloodline, Skirk Ridge Exhumer, Sliversmith, The Underworld Cookbook, Thraben Standard Bearer and Zombie Infestation are all really fun ones you could consider. I think Scuttletide is the best of them though followed by Zombie Infestation. Skirge Familiar with either Drake Haven or Bone Miser are both powerful combos in this deck. Bone Miser also works with Zombie infestation. If we're doing tokens and discard what better options could you look at aside from some very spicy reanimation spells. Dread Return is a known favorite and very cheap but Endless Obedience has to be a massively under rated card still and its only like 10 cents.

[@Tera_GX]

"Turn 7, I'm almost out of cards to draw. My opponents combined still have 110 life but I only have 90 attackers. I should carefully consider the options in my hand, just need 10 minutes."

[@Clappincardboard]

Necrons are really getting the short end of the stick in this set.

[@cormoranoimperatore8413]

Even in this game

[@aldusamcormana]

So true, unfortunatelly... those commanders are so weak. The other mono color commander (for tyranids), yeah the Old One Eye :D, is an absolute beast. Both Szarekh & Imotekh are nowhere near :(

[@kierancawley3990]

Imotekh looks pretty solid to me. The second ability is naff but getting two 2/2s whenever an artifact leaves your GY for any reason seems good. Bearing in mind that includes things like delve and escape costs

[@infinitedm5396]

@@JammyTheGoat347 are you having a stroke

[@jgicantfindaname]

Imotekh is a mono black powerhouse with lots of combos. That the most exciting commander I've seen out of any of the decks.

[@umpatte0]

The pronunciation for Astartes should be Ah-Star-Teez with the emphasis on Star

[@axolotlaristotle]

Okay corpse worshiper

[@kierancawley3990]

@@MrNbkelly And He shall send them forth to strike fear into the hearts of His enemies... they are the Emperor's Ass-Tarts! 😅

[@TrippyTheShroom]

I get the feeling these Commander Decks are going to go for ludicrous money in a year's time

[@daneburke6592]

Really good with blackmarket connections! Draw two every first main phase. Great with pitiless plunderer too. Everytime a creature you control dies draw a card and make a treasure, seems good

[@nielsmarckmann3897]

Draw 3 in fact, because the modes count as separate instances of creating a token, iirc

[@daneburke6592]

@@nielsmarckmann3897 it's one trigger that would all resolve at the same time so you'd only draw one additional. This commander specifies one or more

[@proffejor]

New bucket list goal: Donate The Locust God to a player with Marneus Calgar on the battlefield.

[@Iamthequick]

You can run Shorikai, Genesis Engine! The pilot token, +2 cards from Shorikai, +1 card from the commander D:

[@smob0]

This card might be cedh viable. It's really grindy and is an infinite mana outlet from the command zone. Plus It's consultation/oracle and adnause colors. He's also a chunky enough creature to pressure life totals of people playing adnaus, and blocks on the ground really well.

[@XtraBees]

Yeah I felt the same thing, it's definitely a nuts card. I'm sure we'll see some stuff that doesn't normally get played due to the token synergy possibly as well. Smothering Tithe is going to be the best four drop you've ever seen in CEDH lmfao

[@Humstuck]

5 mana in cedh that doesn't win you the game on the spot? seems a long shot to me.

[@koreyg8552]

Might be? It absolutely is lol

[@XtraBees]

@@Humstuck there so many midrange control decks in the format Once you have infinite mana it doesn’t matter because you won with that win con permanently in your command zone You don’t even have to build around it Probably the strongest esper option in the format

[@tabaxi_enthusiast]

@@Humstuck Midrange is a bit more viable now than it was a year or two ago, I've seen my fair share of Evelyns and Pako/Haldans running around. I agree that Marneus might be a bit slow, but there's probably a decent esper stax shell running around to support it.

[@somerandomdude3729]

Didn't expect to see Papa Smurf to be in this set.

[@theotherguy4478]

Ophiomancer will also work well with him. You'd be drawing cards on every players upkeep.

[@dirtyfrench2926]

I want Marneus for my Alela deck! It may not be a flyer but I create a buttload of tokens in that deck between Alela, Court of Grace, Felidar Retreat, Shark Typhoon, Emeria Angel, etc.

[@jonnyfreshtv6598]

Totally seen this and want it for my Alela deck in the making as well!!

[@edwarddaignault5243]

This commander really gets my juices going. That demon tribal Be'lakor looks pretty dope too, maybe throw in some changelings and clones.

[@swimfast4]

Right into the 99 for Alela

[@HighlanderHND]

Great analysis! Keep it up!

[@l0u13__3]

I have a couple of card ideas that I hope will come in this set Robute Guilleman, Primarch 3UUWW Legendary Creature-Astartes Warrior 7/8 Hand of Dominion- When X creatures you control attack you may search your library for card with mana value X and put that card into your hand then shuffle your library Vulkan, Primarch of the Salamanders 3WWR 6/8 Promethium creed- whenever Vulcan attacks deal combat damage to three other targets Perpetual-If Vulcan were to die, return him to the battlefield at the beginning of your next turn

[@svenvannimwegen4936]

I like the robute design

[@DuxBellorum13]

Perfectly balanced dies to detachment of carnifex's

[@cmdrolfg8663]

I can see Shorikai having some good synergy with that commander.

[@Nachtys]

Helm of the host on this dude could get insane fast

[@balda7942]

Good job Eddie, keep it up!

[@PocketHealer21]

I'm going to enjoy this with Smothering Tithe, Training Grounds and Thalisse hehe

[@DavidSmith-cr7mb]

this is a good card perfectly balanced

[@thomaskamkar5197]

Ah, the classic: Release a themed commander deck that has a way better commander in the 99. I call it the Veyran Special.

[@LetMeCookBro69]

This is really smart move for any company, tv show/movie. Half of the stuff idk about then i go look it up and learn about. Warhammer looks cool af.

[@drachir7146]

I hope this set give the Night Lords the respect they deserve as the Night Lords Books are amazing, I hope Talos gets a card

[@masonlee9423]

now you know they are gonna do the night lords dirty.

[@drachir7146]

@@masonlee9423 by the Night Haunter, I hope not

[@amodking]

Problem with the talon they adept other races or groups of people within their ranks.. most groups don’t accept them. Lol if there was a “good guy race” it would be the talon but sadly no talon pre-con :(

[@draketheduelist]

Talos would basically be Ponder with feet. Probably not as impressive as you'd think. Less so than Xarl, Ruven, or even Uzas. ...Ah, who are we kidding? Talos Valcoran is _far_ too obscure.

[@DoomStarRequiem]

Ahhhh a fellow 8th legion fanboy in here. Best we could get is Decimus . We can always make custom cards for them tho.

[@bemanibunbun2674]

So many nutty combo's that can be slotted into this. Probably wont even need all that much card cycling to hit some of them. Imagine hitting an infinite draw and getting a Vensers Journal, massive life gains. Draw into a Sanguin Bond ability after that and that gain will likly be one shotting opponents each upkeep

[@JohnDoe-vc5qb]

Finally a card where the title is very much warranted

[@davidearley3292]

Draw card? Jeez wizards loves those self engine commander

[@beardedtree4417]

It is hilarious and very on-brand that they made Marneus Calgar op.

[@TheRealActualPaincake]

it isn't, it really isn't

[@freekill1018]

@@TheRealActualPaincake it's actually pretty good NGL the double strike saved it

[@niXonc0x]

Grew up loving both games. Felt icky when I first heard of the cross-over, keep Magic Magic and whatnot... but I need these cards so bad, take my money Wizards!

[@kierancawley3990]

I guess the most important thing is whether the design teams are taking care to stay faithful both to the characters and concepts in 40k and to the mechanical philosophy of Magic. Just read Maro's article about it today and they seem to be doing that, so I figure why not enjoy it

[@visionbishop9517]

Keep them separate.This sickens me to.Its not part of Magic lore.Let them make their own game!!!

[@sparkfrog777]

I mean I figure that it’s not actually canon though right?

[@sparkfrog777]

This is not to say that I’m not kinda ehhhh on them doing stuff like this a lot

[@niXonc0x]

@@sparkfrog777 yeah, there's a "floodgates" vibe

[@NoiseBlizzard]

Thanks, Eddie! ...I mean it, thank you.

[@codeofzero1]

Love how you got astartes right 1st and got it wrong at the same time lol

[@MxPinky]

To be fair when the tokens are summoned from itself it draws cards

[@David42424242]

one card, but yeah

[@natezabinski5615]

Yay, double strike! Power fists go pop-pop!

[@dustfinger_until_dawn]

My only question is, why isn't this the lead commander of the imperium instead of the inquisitor?

[@ronyheat91]

The face of the pre cons usually are what the deck wants to do in a simple way. Usually the back up commander is the engine that usually is better. "Shorkai " is one good example.

[@LSgaming201]

No idea. It doesn't even make sense in the context of 40k. Calgar is much higher ranking than Greyfax.

[@cenncenn9765]

because sex sells

[@Gauzy27072]

Can you do a rith deck or another dino deck. Maybe crab tribal or myr

[@rivelemerald44]

Is he a part of the 99 in the forces of imperium precon?

[@atalhlla]

It really has become an Ultra Game!

[@Syncopiia]

I'm putting him in my Kenrith cycling deck. Between Zirda and that simic creature that lower costs, I can make two vigilant warriors for 2 or 4 mana at a time and draw off of them like crazy.

[@kheyonsmith1497]

This is going to be the next deck i build

[@roshiofficially4968]

Really helpful :)

[@tentacultist34-36]

Just like actual Calgar, too good

[@fluffysideup205]

Thanks eddie

[@giantpizzafish]

GET IT TOGETHER EDDIE!!!!

[@braveherogreenleaf6256]

First card I thought of was Rabble Rousing.

[@michaelfuller8308]

All I'm going to say is that matt ward still thinks he's under powered where is revive

[@MrSoiree]

What's the outro music? I'm intrigued

[@Cyb3rSynaps3]

I saw this card and immediately I thought of [[Annointed Procession]] and [[Ashnod’s Altar]] to draw your entire deck.

[@WytchfynderGeneral]

Does not work, it triggers only evry time one ore more tokens enters the battlefield. When anointed doubles yout tokens you still draw only one card. Not one card per token.

[@BlacklistSanji]

Does not matter. Pay 6 create 4x 2/2 Token (due to anointed prosession), draw a card (let the triggert ability resolve), sac 3 Token to the altar to generate 6 mana, and make another 4 Token, let the draw ability resolve and so on. Infinite Mana, infinite draw and per cycle 1 Token plus and draw your deck.

[@danielwartist]

At least you can’t drop him turn 1 with jeweled lotus without some color filtering shenanigans.

[@TheEldritchVoid]

dark rit for 2c and the 1b lotus for the white or blue then one of the moxes for the other color ( chrome Mox or Mox diamond would be the easiest 2 to do it with but with the right hand mox opal could as well) yes it's the ultimate God hand but it is technically possible to turn one him with the right stuff in the deck which for cEDH I imagine most players would have or shell out for in this deck

[@williamchu4595]

Nuisance engine / academy manufacture / twilight drover are definate essential to this commander

[@DieJG]

Interesting commander but i need a card that says I CAST FIST!

[@dhdpkingplays]

I already have a Talisse deck. Take out all the good Tallisse cards and add some blue. Boom.

[@Ghostpanzer]

Is it one card drawn per one token created? Or one card drawn per turn by any number of token created that turn

[@teenytinymaracas33]

First cards you are putting in this deck have to be reliquary tower, Wizard class, spellbook, thought vessel, decanter of endless water. Then curiosity crafter, body of knowledge and triskaidekaphile.

[@fredmitchell5987]

With zombie infestation this could get really fun especially with insight.

[@BeholdDog5341]

Run that and locust god in the 99 and you have yourself a dangerous combo

[@unar1011]

training field ashnod's altar, done

[@karlhausdoerfer6820]

Shout out to minn wily illusionist, whenever you draw your second card create an illusion token, also great deck for Archmage assension to get those tutors and of course martyrs bond because who needs friends. #blameeddie

[@DawnBooks]

Damn it eddie!

[@noobtacular5160]

Damn it Eddie

[@MrMartinSchou]

Can I suggest Ratadrabik? And something for myriad (like Legion Loyalty)?

[@DoomStarRequiem]

Congratulations Mitch we 40k nerds are here.. we have deepstriked into your comments.

[@adams3627]

**SPEHS MEHREENS INTENSIFIES**

[@Chase0313]

Well I guess more power for Najeela decks out there.

[@agent9791]

Wow!! Wotc just keeps crapping out products left and right. Hasbro is definitely cracking the whip. ( money the gathering).

[@BradofEarthChannel2]

Could I add the new elesh norm mother of machine and the new Mondrak glory dominous?

[@davidchristian3541]

Panharmonicon is gonna be NUTS with Calgar. Almost every token you make is either a creature or an artifact so he's going to pop off with it either way!

[@Tyranidus7]

Where do these leaks appear? I neeeeeed to see some Tyranid cards lol

[@KhaosTy]

40k fan here. Your pronunciation was fine. :) And I'm kind of sad that he's overpowered because he's one of my favorite characters in the setting and I was honestly thinking of playing him as a commander.

[@theoutlander709]

3:17 haha, massive hand.

[@eichiboy95]

You gonna do a video for Belakor?

[@thetrueroman]

I just looked at Belakor and I am in love. What an epic card!

[@eichiboy95]

@@thetrueroman I already have a Demon tribal deck so now I can just combine the two

[@captainc0rgi]

adding these cards would make the deck good... but luckily I like the flavor of the deck too much to add combo cards that would water it down

[@jonathanturley1012]

So token deck, that artifact that doubles tokens and causes people to mill, plus Jaces erasure wich you draw and target opponent mills.

[@joshi1038]

is the link broken? There are only 24 cards in the list...

[@glaciador]

i’m just glad this card isn’t in dockside or doubling season colors. rn the only doubler in those colors is anointed procession, so it’s more balanced edit: lol i didn’t read the card, don’t come after me 😭

[@Urd-Vidan]

Wouldn't the doubler count as one instance? I mean, yeah, tons of tokens, but the second copy doesn't get an additional draw cus the ability is a replacement effect.

[@andrewamann2821]

Genesis Chamber, Smothering Tithe, You don't need doublers to make this work, you just need triggered abilities.

[@Urd-Vidan]

@@andrewamann2821 smothering is just great in this deck....or any deck with white in it

[@glaciador]

@@Urd-Vidan well yes but you still have two tokens entering the battlefield, so the effect is still doubled

[@andrewamann2821]

@@glaciador not quite... Anointed procession doesn't trigger to make another token, it modifies the original ability creating the token, by making N+1 tokens, instead of just N tokens. Since Calgar's trigger reads "one or more," he's only checking for abilities that create tokens, but not actually counting how many are made. Using treasure tokens as an example, if your opponent fails to pay for your Smothering Tithe trigger, you get a treasure, then you draw a card. If a Dockside Extortionist resolves, and you make a bajillion treasures, you'll still only draw one card, because they're all made on a single trigger. Anointed procession doesn't matter for Calgar's trigger. Panharmonicon, however...

[@BouncingTribbles]

Mar-knee-us Ah-star-tees

[@isaiahwelch8066]

Four-card combo, draw out your library: 1) Marneus Calgar 2) Thopter Squadron/Pentavus 3) Anointed Procession 4) Ashnod's Altar

[@WytchfynderGeneral]

What do you need Anointed for?

[@isaiahwelch8066]

@@WytchfynderGeneral : So that you can get 2 Thopter tokens into play: 1 to sacrifice to the Altar, one to put back on the Squadron or Pentavus. With the 2 colorless mana, wash, rinse, and repeat.

[@HYPERMUGEN]

This make smothering tithe even stronger lol

[@skylersuarez4810]

Training grounds and ashnods altar literally at the first read

[@nicholasfrancois5706]

So if i make a treasure and shapeshifter token with black market connections is that two different instances or at the same time? Cause if it's the latter then your netting four cards for six life which is so worth it.

[@NotSoSerious69420]

They happen at the same time not separately. Much better ways to get tokens. Just get tithe and force others to draw. Get a draw for every draw anyone else gets.

[@nicholasfrancois5706]

@@NotSoSerious69420 Oh ok thanks for letting me know. Tithe for the win lol.

[@Draven1895]

You weren't far off with the first name "Mar-knee-us" But you can call him Papa Smirf

[@andrewamann2821]

Mar-nee-us... But you were close.

[@brandonhall7498]

Make sure you pack a Morality Shift and/or Midnight Clock so you won't deck yourself.

[@curator6971]

Did Matt Ward write this card?

[@troublemack9876]

Bennie Bracks is great with that

[@FingerSpoons]

Anyone else hoping for an Erebus card? 😁

[@DoomStarRequiem]

Just make sure we get a Kharn card so we can kill Erebus.

[@travisdouglas4970]

Thopters... Can make 10 tokens but one at a time

[@musicmojo100]

it's not a may though... so if I force ya to draw out maybe?

[@chexmix0101]

This really should of been when creature token etb

[@phaylnx]

You pronounced "Marneus" and "Astartes" very closely to correct. Some players would argue (including me) that you pronounced "Marneus" correctly.

[@i_noahdrunk7969]

Mar-KNEE-Us

[@Ryluth]

so infinite mana is infinite draw, coooooool thanks wizards

[@RyanCunningham]

Well at least it's not going to be standard legal

[@actuallyKriminell]

finally! I thought we'd never break infinite mana

[@axolotlaristotle]

Yeah Commanders with a wincon in their card are usually busted, see Kenrith

[@NotSoSerious69420]

Should be using Urza as an example since he’s both the outlet AND the infinite generator lol.

[@axolotlaristotle]

@@NotSoSerious69420 At least Urza has the decency to be only one color, this is 3. The best removal, counter, and tutor spells all in the same deck

[@cyberdragoon1432]

I cast fist!

[@matthewhalsan6459]

Ultramarine are always overpowered, so I'm not surprised it's this powerful.

[@captredbeard471]

Well, looks like I know what I'm buying lol

[@Venom23456789]

If you wheel with your commander in play and smothering tithe you draw 28 cards lol