THIS Is Why Captain America 4 Reshoots Could Be GREAT

Captain America Brave New World is facing major reshoots. Is the Serpent Society out, and is Kingpin IN? Get 50% off your first order of Sundays: sundaysfordogs.com/NewRockstars or use code NEWROCKSTARS at checkout.
Is Kingpin Wilson Fisk, and his tech empire, being added to Captain America 4 as a political rival to Red Hulk President Thaddeus Ross? Erik Voss breaks down the reshoots for Captain America Brave World, what the original version of the movie looked like, and what exactly changed!
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[@BigRandyHalloween]

Doctor Octavius being the head of Fisks technology department would be a crazy reveal.

[@laurenpaine8954]

that would be sick

[@Realjoshrod]

Dont think thatd be possibly as doc oct being a sony character

[@thorinwoods2642]

I would love a scene between Thaddeus Ross, Wilson Fisk, and Val. They need to start connecting these films and series and having crossovers. Punisher and Bullseye should have been in the Thunderbolts.

[@stevil6669]

I mean... Thunderbolts hasn't even started filming. Can't count anyone out yet. I wager that story is also having to adapt to everything going on with the MCU also.

[@rossanderson5815]

​@stevil6669 Kevin Feige back in full control. Shaping the MCU again.

[@omaralexanderdelgado6529]

Norman Osborn could be the fourth villain. I would like that.

[@anubhavdassarma7230]

the punisher in the thunderbolts could be sick af Like ross convincing frank to kill criminals except its legal. He could go all out and not have people chase him. Then again, him killing criminals while being one himself has always been the interesting point of his character is the netflix shows so idk

[@CBBeresford]

Imagine Harrison Ford in that mo-cap suit for red hulk. “What’s all this shit all over me?” 😂😂

[@loonzoldick]

most likely it won't be him in the mo-cap but a stunt double and he will only provid the voice

[@DeRRtyPoPCoRn]

@@loonzoldick he will def wear the face cap tech tho

[@thepubknight6144]

I noticed Tim's hands are painted green so I assume he's gonna be in a mix of prosthetics and cgi

[@docdaytona108]

“Kevin, you can draw with this shit, but you can’t wear it.”

[@str1k3r_67]

😂😂😂😂 I really hope Ford is a Villian, and they don't turn him to a hero just because he's a big actor. We've never seen his as a true villian before.

[@josephfelix2588]

it's strange but that end kingpin scene i felt brought him back to trauma but didn't heal just relive and accept- he may have the idea of running for office on things his father expressed to him as he ran for office- they will respect you - obviously it's open for interpretation

[@Rkatondonegal]

If they have to go through reshoots to make it better, then so be it!

[@user-xp3mn9we3m]

For real. There are people who think the reshoots mean the movie will be dead on arrival, but it means they are putting time and effort into the project.

[@Rkatondonegal]

@@user-xp3mn9we3m exacto mundo! Marvel is going back to basics where they put heart into their films

[@avator1233]

@@user-xp3mn9we3mlike they did with the marvels

[@Fedaygin]

@@Rkatondonegal Yeah, maybe 🤞

[@_Amit_Sunil]

Didn't help Secret Invasion did it

[@burneyboys02]

The public within the MCU is gonna have a pretty risky battle where they don't know what to believe.

[@Nico12420]

Serpent Society should have been the main villains for The Falcon & the Winter Soldier instead of Flag Smashers!

[@tylerkister4628]

I completly agree i still hope we get some kind of scene with them i dont think it would make sense to cut them out of the movie entirly

[@willybuyit6612]

It’s gonna be another civil war team up movie!! Except this time it’s gonna be the street level characters 🤯

[@codymachado]

I just really hope we get an actual Hulk in this movie and not whatever weird shit we've got since avenger 2012

[@bobpierce]

I like it! Fisk would have to spend some time as mayor first, before reaching for the presidency, correct? And that time would be during Daredevil: Born Again (at least). So when would the presidential run happen? All of that is to say, if Captain America comes out before Daredevil, Fisk’s presidential ambitions couldn’t be the incitement for turning Ross into Red Hulk. Right? Keep up the great work! 👏

[@Dunybrook]

I have trouble seeing Fisk as a national or global threat or taking on a team of superheroes like the Avengers.

[@thepubknight6144]

He's been one in many comics , Like Lex in DC The only difference is Kingpin was always a criminal first

[@ideasaboutthings8857]

he make a take on the dark avengers … or hes the only one “bob” or well sentry listens to so with that monster on his side.. everybody would terrified … basically i think theyll use him as a replacement for osborn in that story… sentry is a big piece of that whole thing

[@avengererbe1814]

I'm hoping for Captain America and Red Hulk Team-Up to take down The Leader in Captain America 4

[@begcoins]

Bring in Mayor Kingpin, Dark Avengers, Thunderbolts, Red Hulk, and a Nomad cameo & youll have another Captain America MCU classic.

[@TheYoungDoctor]

Maybe the 'remaining heads' Fisk mentions are the Maggia. People like Silvermain, Hammerhead and Tombstone.

[@adamlivingston6599]

We already knew there were a lot of other crime heads in New York so I tend to agree. We saw a bunch at the end of Luke Cage as well. I feel like he must mean New York specifically.

[@thepubknight6144]

And Allstair Smythe and his son who I feel should be the villian in the next spiderman movie

[@nunyabizness214.]

Omg! Would love to see Tombstone in Born Again. That'd be awesome!

[@uosdwiSrdewoH]

The action in the series was incredible. How did they not bring in the same people to amp it up for the film? In fact each successive appearance of Falcon/Captain America has been better than the last. What went wrong in the test screenings?

[@wh1tew0lfalpha]

The first shoots were probably rushed and Feige probably realized it looked rushed and wasn’t gonna be good so he ordered reshoots so we’re not all disappointed like we have been for every other recent movie. I’m excited tbh

[@EnigmaReed]

Will genuinely be pretty bummed if Serpent Society gets cut. They'd be a great addition to the MCUs street level side of things.

[@simonkendra3079]

They can still be utilized later on

[@thepubknight6144]

I can see them being felt throughout the MCU in small amounts which works well and is comic accurate

[@sinteleon]

Not to mention bnw is not really a street level plot regardless. If anything, it makes more sense for them to be a cameo to posh other tv series plots where they would fit in better.

[@wh1tew0lfalpha]

Should have been in falcon and TWS not captain America movie

[@mattz.7761]

Lots going on. Hopefully it turns out for the best.

[@wh1tew0lfalpha]

It’s better than rushing it like they were

[@mikechicago6200]

Once again.....The Serpent Society gets the shaft.....i so really wanted to see them in live action!

[@thepubknight6144]

I agree but isn't the leader gonna be the main big bad ?

[@wh1tew0lfalpha]

They should have been in falcon and TWS I’m glad they’re not in this movie

[@user-fm9rv1jo8j]

Fisk was a member of HYDRA in the comics.

[@_Amit_Sunil]

Its ironic because Seth Rollins wife, also a WWE superstar got cut after filming a small role for the Eternals or some other MCU project

[@jkid1337]

Fisk: *Unleashes the Metaverse and leaves humanity vulnerable to Zola and Ultron who for some reason have their memories from What If* Ultron: Run it back? Zola: Da.

[@FireJach]

Isn't Zola German so it would be: Ja

[@agelessstranger964]

@@FireJach Correction, I am Swiss.

[@gilliganIII]

The thing that makes Captain America and marvel movies in general great is that they feel like they could really happen in our own world to people like us. It could be argued that this has been missing. I think reshoots and connecting the rest of marvel television could be exactly what we needed

[@danielmoorefield4891]

So a mirror to the real world.

[@nickseabright8238]

Make Captain America Great Again

[@ericw9655]

Hopefully he can get a bank loan in this one.

[@johanstrohman4465]

the name Diamondback was used by Luke Cage's brother. there was 2 or 3 other snake names used on netflix

[@ashsevilla6078]

I loved the Serpent Society as a kid...in the 1980s... haha. They had some really cool designs.

[@WilyWillyT]

A metaverse controlling normal folks sure sounds like that Supergirl series plot in S5

[@jeffreycarman2185]

I like the products of the more deliberate MCU movies more than the quickly rushed through, to make a deadline.

[@wh1tew0lfalpha]

Same. I’d much rather have them reshoot it and make sure they get it right. I’m tired of these rushed movies. Deadpool is gonna set the bar up again.

[@stphnklptrk]

So what you're saying is Wilson Fisk is a notch more nutty now after Echo's mental intervention than before? This should be interesting.

[@coreywright33]

YES! I DEFINITELY want Wilson Fisk to be the next Thanos-esque villain for the MCU!

[@lionsheartministries4573]

Im nobody, but I think CA4 would be the perfect opportunity to introduce Luke Cage. Serpent Society could bring back the Diamondback from the Netflix series. Im just saying that would be dope

[@schoolprojects1835]

I’m not really big on the whole virtual reality thing people seem to think Fisk is going for, seems a bit much to me personally, although I like the idea of him being connected to characters like Ross and Val, they could definitely do something and say all these people become connected during the blip and Val or Ross could be involved in why Fisk is free and why is able to run for mayor, being a convicted criminal and all. I feel these characters would all definitely share similar sentiments regarding costumed hero’s and they could be the mcu equivalent of the cabal from the dark reign period of marvel. That is one of my favourite periods of marvel and I hope they don’t rush through it in favour of heading straight into all the multiverse stuff

[@PunchSuccaa]

After the post credit I realized, it helped him overcome his childhood trauma and killing his father.... but hes killled plenty of people since then so basically this only made him the same bad guy without the childhood trauma, so a stronger sociopath😅

[@evrywerigoable]

Let's see Kingpin bankroll the Framework from AoS into Daredevil & the MCU

[@LRTrack]

"So, Luthor, er, Fisk.., you with your evil tech companies, you're running for President now???"

[@J.O.R.D]

12:56 I put my airpod in at the same time Fisk put his hearpod in 😂👀 Kingpin is watching

[@dancam4685]

In Luke Cage, you had Cotton Mouth, amd Diamond Back. Both are snake names and seems like they should be part of that Serpent Society.

[@jessetorres5801]

They are. Same people

[@edwardlinke4741]

Red hulking out on air force one hahahah " Get off my plane " 🤣

[@griffgames9538]

It's funny, Loki season 2 didn't require any re-shoots. *Not one* The writers and Benson & Moorhead said they planned the season out meticulously and then executed the design and production exactly as intended. That's not to say re-shoots are inherently bad or a sign of trouble (sometimes they're very good to patch plotholes and insert connecting scenes), but Loki S02 was a refreshing example of a well plotted, correctly executed MCU shoot.

[@SlevinCCX]

That's cool, I'd rather watch a good movie though... so hard to find one of those these days.

[@J.O.R.D]

5:53 my point exactly, these characters help flesh out the universe

[@the-icephoenix]

3 sequences beginning, middle and the end but if it makes it better then their recent projects then go for it

[@christianlicon4648]

This would Totally work for me!!! Love NR!!!

[@GroundhogJay]

I also don't think the "remaining heads" means Zola or Ultron or anyone related to HYDRA. Why would they need Fisk? I think it's clearly meant to be in a Mafia way, heads of other criminals families. Maybe Madame Gao and such making a return, or the MCU introducing Silvermane, Tombstone, and Hammerhead, etc...

[@docdaytona108]

“Don’t…don’t give me hope.” (Obligatory.)

[@michellemckenna4367]

Bucky Barnes should be in this

[@robertmcmath910]

They need to bring in the Wrecking Crew (they did slightly in She Hulk, but could still be "out there" considering who President Ross is letting out of prison for his own agenda); Wrecking Crew crosses Daredevil, Spiderman, the Defenders, and others. Serpent Society could be a real big deal if they did it right because in the Nomad story arc, Steve Rogers has a relationship with Diamondback...with Sam Wilson as Captain America, Disney/Marvel could change it where Sam has the relationship with Diamondback. Also with Madam Hydra (Julia Dreyfus/head of the CIA) could be using Serpent Society as the neo-Hydra and have this semi-tied to Powermonger (a Skrull, not Carter). Zolla and Ultron work as well in my idea in that Zolla is using Ultron/Tony-tech leading to Armor Wars and works for the "government" (Ross) while Serpent Society/Hydra is their own (always has been), and Kingpin his is his "own" (with help)...they are all using each other in a Dark Reign story arc until one of them upsets the other apple cart and then it becomes a three way battle and the New Avengers have to step in.

[@mr.martinproductions7241]

I would like to see an "attitude era" in the MCU. Make Phase 6 all about big, strong Class 100 characters. Savage Hulk, Juggernaut, Rhino, Gladiator, Mr. Sinister, the Champion, Sasquatch, Thing and Blue Marvel. Have them fight and cause destruction. No doubt it would be a success.

[@paulbridge695]

If they want to avoid reshoots, they should start hiring veteran directors experienced with the genre.

[@squelish]

I wouldn't be surprised if they pivot into the Dark Avengers storyline with Kingpin and The Leader with The Thunderboltsreplacing the heroes instead of Norman Osbourne

[@jasonmunoz2633]

I always took the “one and done” villain choice as their way to make it a more realistic scenario for these movies.

[@samanthamaclean1430]

I think it’s a great idea to cut out Serpentine Society or even ever I just think there’s too many organizations that we still have in the MCU that we haven’t even explored and just to pop-up and waste another potential villains to use I do think for the next movies they need to keep it simple especially they get their general audience is back on track in the MCU

[@wh1tew0lfalpha]

FACTSSSSS

[@RandomResearch57]

To be honest I am super hyped for this film hopefully hulk appears in it and maybe gets angry

[@WesleyScottOfficial]

As an MCU site hard who has a terrible phobia of snake I'm all for them dropping anything to do with the serpent society. 🙌

[@fernkenobi]

LOL @ the king of the hill reference

[@NateMac000]

It was cool that they showed ASL in the lens, but why not just text/subtitles of what he was saying?

[@marvelswadeteamup400]

Not the Jeff Dhamer 😭💀😂

[@juantiscareno3124]

Man… I really hope that kingpin is not the #1 enemy for captain America. That’s gonna be boring I couldn’t even finish watching five episodes of Echo 😢

[@wh1tew0lfalpha]

It’s not it’s gonna be red hulk

[@TitularHeroine]

Interesting; thanks!

[@AlSween]

I was looking forward to Seth Rollins.

[@jordanjones7043]

Hits Blunt …Does anyone think that Alistair Smythe could be behind one of the tech companies owned by Kingpin & that’s his intro to the Mcu

[@teddertot256]

If they're really planning to adapt Devil's Reign, with Killgrave presumably killed off in JJ, this could be the way they're adding that "mind control" element.

[@LewisB3217]

I love kingpin so that’d be cool if so!

[@justize365]

I wonder if Tombstone will be a Secret service agent 😮

[@sandramiller1988]

I thought “The Leader” was the villain in this film? Didn’t we hear they cast the actor from the original “Incredible Hulk” film? I remember seeing onset leaked picks of him.

[@sneakernickel]

I thought they were gonna be fighting hummus.

[@trevorkenny]

Seth "FREAKING" Rollins!

[@thepubknight6144]

One of my favorite wrestlers

[@gr8tbigtreehugger]

They Live! Shout out!

[@bontzie]

"Snakes. Why did it have to be snakes?" Looks like Indiana Jones got his way after all

[@quiet4372]

i kinda wish the serpent society would have just been a black ops group with a snake theme

[@TheDrexLord]

I doubt the 4-6 months of reshoots rumored isnt 4-6 montha straight. I think its just reshoots that will have breaks to allow for the cast to be available and that takes palce over 4-6 months, and probably more like 2 maybe even 3 months of reshoots.

[@KingArthur973]

It’s said that the reshoots will take place from May-August of this year

[@PaulADAigle]

Personally, I believe Fisk was 'healed' of his obsessive need to stay connected to people like he did for Echo. His need to keep his 'friends' connected, or killed.

[@ideasaboutthings8857]

so fisk a replacement for osborn in the dark avengers like storyline? thats what id do

[@c1mc1]

I think you're on to something here. This would make sense and be great to see, if true.

[@Cliffeunderwood91]

Isnt Sam's Captain America gonna collide with steve Rogers Captain America in secret wars coz at some point everyone spilling over from the multiverse.... endless variants

[@joebearjohn]

MCU is "aligning" their Kingpin to the one in Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse: the techy overlord who now uses tech to rule a techy new world

[@_Tree]

This movie has been reshot too many times, but I think this is a good idea. They do not want to mess this up

[@corytucker6788]

What if they merge and become Zultron 😂

[@stevil6669]

Ultrola

[@desmondaresdangelo5733]

Wasn't that a flip phone? ​@stevil6669

[@Fred026]

Yessssss amazing video!!

[@SouthernGentleman]

I respect hopeless optimism.

[@PoliteWerewolf]

I don't buy it. How does Fisk's plans tie into Cap 4's main story of supersoldiers and Hulk characters? It makes me think of the last Jason Bourne movie, which had two separate stories following Bourne investigate the death of his father while getting pulled into a plot involving mass surveillance in social media. The two stories were never connected and never did connect by the end.

[@shakeemdiggz2354]

They did Maria Hill wrong.

[@sinteleon]

Yes ... But where does the daily bugle fall in all this? They are likey to be a significant player either for or against this metaverse plot.

[@2ndstreetmarvel]

🤘🏿🤘🏿

[@austinhobson7918]

Disney has completely dropped the ball. I’m over this universe. Gotta get into something else.

[@stevennieto6993]

I kinda feel the same, still excited to see what’s to come, but cause of lack of trust based on content after endgame. Have no problem waiting till it comes to streaming after the reviews have came in. Is it worth renting, or wait for it come to Disney plus to see how bad it is and nothing connecting to all the previous movies and shows.

[@AlSween]

Kingpin becomes the MCU's Osborn. After watching Assembled it reminded me of Maya saying that Hawkeye relies on technology too much.

[@JonathanHassingerChannel]

If this wasn’t their plan, it needs to be.

[@ATRAXXUSA]

The serpent society will get their justice someday 😭

[@The.watcher]

They better bring Ultron back for Armor wars, or we riot.

[@BGilStudios]

Totally agree Eric!!

[@davidh3823]

Hi Erik!!!!

[@DaLumpy1]

WHAT about PUGSley?!?! HUH?!?!

[@therealroblay2617]

Do actors get paid more when they have to do reshoots?

[@YungShep1]

Continuity???! Say word!

[@LacTheWatcher]

Ah yes, my favorite New Rockstars Member "Area Voss"

[@Panasonicy0uth]

Wilson Fisk metaverse? MCU x Persona crossover, confirmed.

[@bferrara16]

Give me a Baltroc the Leaper Disney+ series!!

[@ideasaboutthings8857]

imagine fisk using the media to trigger thr whole red hulk debacle and then he pulls out sentry to save the day… now hes the “hero” with the “golden god” sentry next to him after gaslighting robert.. which leads to thunderbolts when the sentry just progressively looses control of reality, fisk looses control of roberts mind and the void emerges. neato, i know it wont be that but would be cool.

[@wh1tew0lfalpha]

Thank God they’re not just rushing this movie

[@AlexTheory.]

I Hope Bucky will have a role in the movie

[@therealkidgenius6662]

fisk version of extremis