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[@aarontrupiano9328]

"prevent the air from rubbing out on the box" made me laugh

[@frizzletits8511]

Shit had me hounding at work

[@THEBRAINANAYTOR]

Who else read this right as he said it?

[@timothystevenson7907]

I read this comment before watching. Still made me laugh so hard

[@PWN_Nation]

I bet the restaurant didn't know they're paying licensed contractor prices for apprentice-level work.

[@djtongi]

c'mon dude, that's a serious problem! Shorted out air due to rubbing out is the cause for many air outages...

[@jerrykorman7770]

“Prevent the air from rubbing out on the box.” Chris, that is Master Level sarcasm. You are becoming sarcaholic like me

[@cvr24]

The electricians get away with such shoddy work because they know the inspector will never go up on the roof when it's 100+F

[@throttlebottle5906]

typically, repair work like that would never be inspected anyway. adding a whole RTU and new power feed, probably. here I've seen half of buildings rewired and or tons of new equipment and feeders ran, no permit in site and no inspections. residential and commercial both.

[@HVAC559]

On new construction or Tennant Improvement [TI] jobs, don't for one minute think those inspector's won't get up there in that heat and take the time to school while you stand in it.

[@danielduplessis1582]

Nearly every installation we do the electrician messes it up. I now do all the cable trays and brackets for the electrician ,he runs his cables and terminates ,we then tie off cables neatly and we also make sure the unit it earthered with a separate earth wire..... Unfortunately the guys just dont like neat things anymore...

[@castirondude]

This is why requiring licensing for contractors is kind of pointless. You can do a good job if you want to.

[@LazyboyLP]

I'm an electrician myself. In Germany though, but that's not the matter. I know we Germans probably have stricter standards, but in any case, watching the beginning of the video was hard for me because everything that could've been done wrong was done wrong. I mean, they fixed a grounding wire with a goddam screw. As for your solution to this. I can only speak from German standards, we always use Ring Terminals combined with spring and teethed washers. If there is no thread, we use self securing nuts. And for my perspective on everything else (also speaking German standards here): 1. Blank wires on the roof: Depending on how they were cut, they can have spiky ends, causing injury. Since they seemed pretty thick, that's even more dangerous. 2. Conduits on the roof: Tripping hazard 3. Hole towards the main switch: Absolutely disgusting. 4. Hole for the conduit: See above 5. Termination on the Main switch: Now, this will sound very German, since I only know how it should be over here. Normally, every main switch still needs protection from touching. To terminate main switches over here, they must be opened and not only the case where they are seated. That's because over here, you always assume that there are dumb people around the machines. In any way, the electrical work was a disgrace to all electricians who take their job seriously. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. I'll answer. Even if you just want to know about probable differences in electrical code.

[@jrmcferren]

That ground screw the "electricians" put in was no where near legal. Even if it was a single strand like in a lighting circuit, you could still get them on a technicality.

[@mart43]

Same things apply here in The Netherlands (and I think most of northern Europe.) Also I always find it weird that Americans don't use ferrules on all the cables and don't use conduit in control panels.

[@Getle98]

Lonewolf are you german?

[@Bhoune91]

This unit is in our German standards not even official grounded. The ground has to be directly connected from the machine down to the main panel. To cut the ground and to use the conduit as a ground isn't save enough if there's an hazardous situation in or at this unit. Every connection is an failure point, that's why you always should run the ground directly to the main panel. You don't even know, if this conduit has any ground connection at the other end at all. That's extremely dangerous. As an electrician, it's hurts to see your video.

[@Rayfanz1]

18yrs working for a German car brand in service, but only as an advisor and driver. (I’m one of those American snobs that only drives German, but truly because of safety first and foremost). I trust German cars with my life, every time I drive. Sure, some stereotypes are true about over-engineering and skimping the basics, not understanding the US market, etc. But I truly trust my life inside a German car, especially if it is BUILT in Germany. I have a bit less faith in long-term reliability and durability on the ones made in other countries, from my own experience, with exceptions here and there. I’m a very proud Texan and American, but y’all in Germany have it down for safety in all things, electrical, hvac, cars, and so on.

[@squirrelwood8008]

This "Electrician" should be stripped of their job and sent back to school for a proper education in all things electric. This is not just ridiculous, this is outright dumb and dangerous.

[@achannelwithnopurpose1977]

I don’t even think its a real electrician that did that. Service is too bad for me to believe they were even certified.

[@johnbell6956]

What a crap job, but legit install for the Fly by Night Handyman Service LLC. Lowest price guaranteed. Cash and carry.

[@camifnisil2684]

Jeez I haven't had any electrical training since highschool and I could do a better job than that 'electric chair' technician. I've done electrical work in my house many times.

[@dr00andrew]

more than likely it was just a body to fill the position. every company nowadays seem to be hiring and due to desperation for help, they likely aren't too picky with peoples backgrounds and experience

[@LuciferMorningstar-ix3lb]

@@camifnisil2684 but did you die?

[@francisbriggs76]

Totally agree. As an Electrician myself I would be embarrassed to do such a job. Perhaps different electricians should be used.

[@THEBRAINANAYTOR]

I’m cringing because I am too a commercial electrician who does ac change outs on Publix super markets. This is trash ass work.

[@francisbriggs76]

@@THEBRAINANAYTOR It sure is! Guys like that do a disservice to our trade.

[@ATSNorthernMI]

@@THEBRAINANAYTOR We seen a commercial taco bell restaurant that that so much flex installed, it looked like a nasa experiment in the attic, they didn't even connect the canopy jelly jar lights in the drive thru, had wires going into the back of the time clock/outdoor lighting contactor right into the wall space with no conduit, just electrical taped the knockout to keep the wires from chaffing LOL. Everything was crooked and we were called out to find out why the canopy lights didn't work and spent 2 minutes going, no power. This was after we spent 10 minutes doing a walkthrough with the manager and he claimed the lights worked just fine until they didn't.

[@sharkey086]

@@gquin9487 agreed, as much as I wouldn't want to see someone lose their job. In a situation like this where severe property damage and a potential for loss of life due to that person's ignorance and laziness, changes that feeling.

[@vincentschumann937]

im still in training and i'd get my head lopped off by my instructor if i commited such atrocities like HOW

[@heavydiesel]

Time for you to set up an electrical division in your company!

[@whodat90]

It’s incredibly subtle but I’m getting the tiniest edge of unhappiness from you in this video.

[@HVACRVIDEOS]

Damn I'm surprised you caught that, I was really trying to bottle up my emotions.... 🤣

[@analogmoz]

Bikerguy, don't over-interpret. I think Chris is actually quite pleased in this video.

[@arthouston7361]

I would be telling them that I can't do anything with that unit until a new electrician comes and fixes this mess. As in, "I''m not touching that until it is corrected. Period."

[@kaptaintrips]

Chris traveled 2.5 hrs to get there. He demonstrated why this place is willing to pay windshield time for himin this frustrating video.

[@arthouston7361]

@@kaptaintrips We all make decisions in this business. I am just sharing mine.

[@Nighthawke70]

@@kaptaintrips He eats the job for his survival.

[@vincentgrueter7759]

I understand what you're saying. But as Chris has said before, if he doesn't do it they will hire someone else who will. And being that they are probably a returning customer, it would suck to lose them over something like that. You can pretty much garuntee that will happen, imagine telling a customer they need to pay someone else to redo the electrical that they just paid for and waited 3 weeks to get done.

[@arthouston7361]

@@vincentgrueter7759 I’m confused. Why isn’t losing a lousy customer a good thing?

[@Tokaisho1]

You should definitely become qualified on paper as an electrician yourself and run your own cable runs like this for units where necessary, from this video alone I can tell you have what it takes.

[@Bryan-Hensley]

I'm the same as him..I hire electricians. Mainly because it is less liability my company takes..

[@ATSNorthernMI]

Usually requires you to start out as an apprentice for 8000 hours on the job training to get your journeyman's and 1000 hour class time on top of it. Then you have to take an exam and work another 2000 hours at not at least 10000 total hours on the job to get your masters and be able to get a electrical contracting license. Many companies might just hire a master electrician but they want 100k a year and 2 months of paid vacation, optical, dental, and health insurance.

[@TheWilber09]

@@ATSNorthernMI sounds like a bargain for the company vs the amount of training required.

[@kaptaintrips]

The out take is too kind. Why would the electrician need to kill power to the entire building? Surely there was a sub panel that could be turned off. Even if not so, any company worth their salt would have the job done with bo power in under an hour... Don't make excuses for shoddy workmanship. Don't excuse what exasperated you when arriving on the site and eye balling shit work. Good on you not to call this company out on media by name but again, zero excuses. Please stop trying to justify in the out take.

[@Tokaisho1]

@@ATSNorthernMI The electrician who did the job on this roof in this video doesn't seem like the type to have met all those criteria lol

[@Robert-S-]

It sucks so hard when you recommend hiring a specialized trade to do the work, and that company does a worse job than you could have done yourself. Always seems to happen when you try to do the right thing.

[@50_foot_punch99]

Brother ain't that the truth

[@MMCUSN]

Question with boldness. If you see something that doesn't look right chances are, it's not. These owners need to stop being so gullible and lazy.

[@Badtxv]

As much as I want to say I'm surprised by that, I'm not. It sucks because depending on the customer they don't give 2 shits as long as the price is good. Majority won't see the possible implications of poor workmanship like this, and since you found it and fixed it prior to major issues like water damage they'll be like "awesome thanks" and still use the same people without holding anyone accountable

[@christopherkidwell9817]

That is why we have electrical code and code inspectors. If one of those inspectors came out and saw this... they would have a literal b-fit over it and would be calling up the electrician who did that and threatening them with criminal charges for endangering people.

[@gam3kid]

It's probably messed up but calling the inspector to check this work would be a good idea to alert the company on their illegal work

[@jerrykorman7770]

I wish you were wrong …. but I’ve seen it far too often Nothing surprises me anymore

[@kaptaintrips]

@@christopherkidwell9817 where do you live? Wish we had code enforcement here like we did many years ago.

[@kaptaintrips]

@@gam3kid Not messed up by any stretch of the imagination. This company is the problem. Zero excuses

[@MannMade]

A ground screw has to be a machine screw fastened in an approved location. Also I believe you can not use conduit for grounding at that ampacity and that ground looks under sized as well. Wire size should be #3 copper with a #8 copper ground. NEC 310.15(b16) for wire ampacity ratings.

[@kaptaintrips]

Yup, ●gage wire is the humor of this vid. Oversized wire ran in piss poor fashion, no proper bushing, ground nor knock out not to mention reversed phase and the seal tight conduit causing interference to pannels to boot... whaow!

[@wd8557]

The guy that taught me refrigeration was from Germany. He went down a list of comparing things from Germany to America and it was amazing.

[@slimh2080]

I love watching this guys videos, But in reality I would advise that he should remove this video stat! what people don't understand is, NEC is Law.. states can enhance safety not take away from it. he should have called back out the electricians and let the potential "Heat" (pun intended) liability to fall with them.

[@16vSciroccoboi]

What's funny is a lot of new services and enclosures come with ground lugs/bond lugs that aren't any different thread than a self tapping sheet metal screw and they cut their own threads. There is no limit to the ampacity of emt for size technically. The code is ambiguous in it's wording, but basically it can be a ground conductor for any circuit installed in it. This emt would have zero problem clearing the fault current. The ground wire mess is a problem, though it's hard to tell since he said that's 1/0 copper it could actually be #8 for the ground even though nothing else is proper in the install.

[@phil6629]

I agree with the frustration. We might have shared the same "electrician". I had a 3 phase demand meter stop working. It was still under warranty. The original installer sent someone out to replace it. It only needed to be swapped out with the replacement. The "electrician", changed the conduit, replaced conductors, reversed the phases, and removed 2 unrelated breaker from the panel, that went to our outdoor security lighting. The ground was covered in debris, wire pieces, zip ties, cut off terminals, and tape. My service call was for the inop security lights, and when I arrived and saw this mess, I called the cops and made a report for vandalism. Also, the work was untested, because the replacement never went online, and he never announced his presence or made contact with the POC, nor was anything inspected or reviewed. I took 2 more visits to correct and repair the damage that he created, and still did not pick up his garbage. This contractor has now been blacklisted from bidding on any future contracts. Unprofessional, unskilled, untrained, and DANGEROUS worker! Even My 10yo son would never have done such a poor job.

[@hmrody]

You, sir, carry yourself as a professional and craftmanship and doing the job right is so very important. Great job!

[@kingofl337]

I'd call the local inspector and have them take a look. See if you can get their license pulled. At least show the customer.

[@EyebrowsMahoney]

Your reaction is exactly the same reaction I would have had. I hate dogging people but I absolutely cannot stand willful incompetence. No one cares about quality of work (it seems more common today) and sure part of it comes down to a customer's willingness to pay for quality work. But at the end of the day, there are some things that you absolutely cannot skimp on, and that includes electric and gas fittings! This is why I prefer to do everything myself. Because then I know it's done right. I'm not perfect, but I know I'm not one for shortcuts and shoddy workmanship.

[@danpresson]

You hate to see shoddy work it makes your life not easy awesome video

[@MelvinTheGrate]

You mentioned that there was some flex conduit going back to the panel. That's not carrying an acceptable ground. A separate grounding wire needs to be run. I saw a video about a residential AC outdoor unit where a grounding wire was not run through the flex whip. The compressor developed an internal short to "ground", which was just through the metal in the flex. That length of flex had enough resistance that the breaker did not trip, and the flex just heated up and burned the outer jacket and internal wires to a crisp. The only thing that kept it from starting a fire was being outside and not in direct contact with anything flammable.

[@throttlebottle5906]

I just caught that at the video end too and that's correct, it's generally not allowed, although there's some code buried that allows is at like 20amps or less and 6 foot max length.

[@billthomas6296]

I am 60 years old and retired from my plumbing business. Back when I was working I would get so upset to come across this kind of laziness. You remind me of my self and the work ethics I held. Today the common person wants a paycheck for nothing. Keep up the good work, love your videos.

[@jermayemoshee2840]

Hey man, my buddy told me about your videos he’s been doing commercial hvac & refrigeration for a year we worked at the same company we both quit he quit 1yr sooner then I did, I’ve been a residential hvac tech for 7yrs, I quit my current job as of today I’m done working there, and Monday I go to my new job to go work commercial hvac & refrigeration and I’ve been watching your videos for about month now, the amount of information & advice you have given me is substantial and gives me ALOT more confidence making the switch in my career, love the hats I’m getting one soon to help ya out, since you have helped me thanks man.

[@TheRenaissanceBuilder]

For whatever its worth, when wires burn up at joints its due to resistance (such as corrosion or loose connection) causing heat at that spot, the heat then causes more resistance and the problem dominos. So normally when wires are burnt at just one spot its due to the wire not the load.

[@whitcwa]

Exactly. Even 10 milliohm of resistance will dissipate 49 W if 70A are flowing through it. That much power in a small area can melt copper. A standard 100A current shunt is less than 1 milliohm.

[@kaptaintrips]

@@fluke196c FLIR for the won!

[@RP-mt6bp]

It can be a winding wire (as well). Am I wrong?

[@MichaelHartGSP]

I really enjoy your videos. I currently teach HVAC in the military and I use some of your techniques to help my airmen understand. I have worked in the field as a civilian and as military and have meet very few people who can explain things as well as you. Keep up the great work!

[@morriscarter2914]

As an electrical contractor for 30 years I totally agree with you. Bosses fault for not training and following up on the jobs. Was the 3 pole breaker that was the original disconnect rated to be fed from the bottom with the load on top?

[@mikepasko7493]

YOU ARE SOOOOO RIGHT....VERY GOOD

[@peterhodgkins6985]

Good work as always, Chris! Nothing wrong with verbalizing one's frustrations out of the sight of the customer!

[@dant4802]

Looks like Hack and Moe stopped by

[@vburke1]

The metallic conduit is grounded to protect against shorts to the conduit, I'm pretty sure it's NOT supposed to be carrying the ground to the end equipment.

[@16vSciroccoboi]

EMT is 100 percent allowed to be used as the EGC as long as it's properly bonded and whatnot at the service end. It's probably a better ground conductor than a dedicated ground wire because it's huge surface area means it can carry tons of current without overheating or being blown apart when clearing a fault.

[@vburke1]

@@16vSciroccoboi My bad, you are correct on that. I will question whether drilling a hole in an LB and using a screw with an undersized head to (partially) hold down stranded wire with no terminal constitutes an acceptable ground. I'll lay you money whoever put it together that way probably never tested the integrity of the conduit either. They'd have been FAR better off leaving the green wire. Oh, btw, if you're overheating or blowing apart the ground wire on fault, you're doing something wrong.The ground isn't supposed to carry tons of current, it's supposed to carry fault current long enough to trip the over current protection device.

[@16vSciroccoboi]

@@vburke1 I wasn't debating the merits of this hack jobs work, just saying that EMT makes a good ground conductor. Large amounts of fault current can and do erode EGCs though. I've encountered several circuits with even properly sized and installed ground conductors that have been blown apart because the owner/tenant kept just re setting the breaker.

[@Minivan3023]

Holy moly, I would've been cursing up a storm on that roof. I hate having to clean up other people's mess at work. Don't know why it is so hard to do things correctly.

[@paulb4496]

As always excellent video Chris...you have the best training videos on KZbin!

[@tracysellman1562]

I feel your frustration. I can't count the times I had this same scenario happen. I would shut down the unit and have the customer call the electrition, having the customer refuse to pay them for shoddy and unsafe repairs not to mention blatant code violations. A supposed licensed electrical contractor got nasty with me on the phone one time, what he didn't know was he was on a 3-way call with me and my friends that was not only an electrical engineer but a city and state certified inspector. I unmuted him, he identified himself and proceeded to let this guy have it, my friend ended up pulling that contractor's license and filing charges, he also helped out by filing for the contractor's recovery fund to cover the cost of repairs for the customer.

[@Coffreek]

As a Sparky, I feel like I ought to apologize on behalf of my trade. The thing that motivates me to do good work is remembering that if somebody is hurt or killed by my negligence, their family can take everything I have. Yes, I know, Section 110.12 shouldn't need any teeth behind it except the ones your own pride has, but when it's 110 on the roof, it helps to remember.

[@unclefatbloke687]

You said you don't know what caused the short, but at 5:42 we can see a ton of dust inside the cabinet. I don't see any kind of rubber seals on the doors/removable panels, so no dust protection! With dust getting onto adjacent electrical terminals inside teh cabinet, the creepage & clearance distances will become reduced and in turn so will the safe voltage rating.

[@kathrynwhitby9799]

i'm going to hazard a guess that the sparky that did this used the old ground wire as a draw tape for the new cabling.

[@crappyeditor]

Probably but its easy enough to add a ground into the pull at the same time.

[@lwilton]

@@crappyeditor Since they used ridiculously oversized wire, there might not have been room in the conduit for a ground wire. :-(

[@kaptaintrips]

@@lwilton Guess the guy doesnt keep #2 or even #10 wire on his truck. (Don't use 10 gage for 80-100 amps, kids. That was just a joke.)

[@lwilton]

@@kaptaintrips I've seen a 100 foot run of #10 on a double 50A breaker. :-(

[@gorak9000]

The missing screw for the LB is on the roof right next to the gas pipe for the unit!

[@jacchilax1002]

You missed one problem: the wire boot acting as a rain bucket. The boot should make for a nice funnel into the building.

[@dashcamandy2242]

That's how I recognized the unit at the very beginning. I remembered the "dual funnels."

[@stephenbullock-yn3vh]

Gotta love electrical hack jobs.I do my own electrical work have license in commercial.when I do safe and quality work. Excellent work on this unit 👍👍👍

[@rt-1859]

Early in the video - "We're literally in the Lowe's parking lot" Later in the video - "we ran over to Home Depot to get an LP". I only go to Lowes to remind myself why I don't like going to Lowes...

[@ShaunPuzon]

😂😂🤣🤣

[@chris76-01]

Lol. I used to think lowes was good but now not as much. home depot usually has a better selection. It just depends on what you need and who has it.

[@rt-1859]

@Game Plays 1230 Or anything else I've ever needed in a hurry...

[@DishitoutNetwork]

Yeah they goofed on the ground… especially at that amperage you can’t rely on the conduit to give you a solid ground to clear the short, and usually when using conduit your not allowed to go over 6 feet for anything over 20 amps. But that rule is a safety rule for encountering a problem on a small scale to if you don’t have a ground what can be used. Considering they had to pull a new feed a #8 would have fit … I agree codebooks are practically free, the electrician doesn’t have an excuse… that’s why HVAC guys hate us lol

[@danielduplessis1582]

Well done Sir. You went the extra mile for your customer but the most important thing is you did the best for our trade. Keep it up.....

[@ironwolf6849]

You should get the inspector out to check it out and get the guys credentials. He can get a super fine.

[@Tsnor150]

He did better. When the guys he knows at the shop that did the work see this video they are going to roast the guy who did it. Not just ugly work, actively unsafe work.

[@inductoservice9866]

"They're the electricians, they know more than me. Right." LOL

[@derichshaw2793]

Met alot of electricians through out my career great guys. Just never met one that didn't do shotty work. Refrigeration always gets screwed by sparky...lol

[@justme5384]

There is a small arc on the second compressor contactor at 14:29 ish, loose connection or just escaping arc from the contacts?

[@markae0]

maybe just the 70 amps connecting?

[@HVACRDUDE]

This would be 1000% quality in Chicago! Like that's 100x better than moat roofs there

[@MaxStax1]

I honestly don't know how you can work in that heat all day. I guess it's a dry heat, but still, you must be super human,lol. You never mention how much work it is to carry all your stuff on to the roof ,ha. You are awesome i swear. I've been doing HVACR since the 80's, Love your videos!

[@NightmareQueenJune]

We had 35°C (95°F) here in Germany today and I was absolutely dying at work. Like physically unwell. Seeing him regularly work at >100°F is completely nuts to me.

[@MaxStax1]

I take that back you Have showed how to make it easier to bring stuff up. i wish I had someone like you back in the day. i used to go to GE tech school in Louisville,Kentucky (Cincinnati) as i was a factory tech for them for a number of years.Fun Fact: they had a converted GE refrigerator turned into a keg cooler outside the classroom, ha, and yea guys would draw a beer at 8AM. lol hey i waited till after lunch.ha

[@JoshKalinich]

Whenever working with a drive I always turn drive in off position before powering down a unit. Never power down a vfd while running.

[@x_x_w_]

Hi, code enforcement? Yeah I'd like to report a flagrant violation.

[@jonjohnson3027]

About grounding the LB... (I'm not an electrician) my understanding is that the LB doesn't need to be bonded to ground inside the LB if there are no splices in it. (And an LB may or may not be listed for splices anyway; adding a grounding terminal to an LB that doesn't already have provision probably nullifies the UL listing.) So I can see why it was bonded originally, with the splices that were in there (the LB probably doesn't have capacity for the splices -- box fill ratings, and all). And using the LB as a termination point for the equipment ground instead of running it all the way back to the panel... using the conduit as an EGC is just lazy. I've seen too many poor conduit fittings that result in a broken bond and no grounding. Just run a (properly sized) grounding wire the whole way, bond where necessary and have one less thing to get called back to fix. And if you're using stranded wire, for goodness' sake, use a lug don't just wrap it under the screw. Like I said, I'm not an electrician, and this isn't a qualified opinion. But I've picked up enough to understand most of this. And to those reading: follow the code, not what I say here.

[@KelvinGreyheart]

For holes like that, keep a slab of polycarbonate shoved between a couple of shelves in the van somewhere. Quarter inch thick poly carb is cheap, and you can rough cut it with basically any power tool like a 3 inch cutoff, Sawzall, or a drill with a hole saw. You can also score it deeply and crack it with a good knife on any straight metal edge if you're desperate. Alternatively, keep a chunk of thin marine plywood on hand. Marine plywood is about as much epoxy as it is wood, so it's not going to warp or rot. Regardless of what you chose, silicone the hell out of it and it'll last for a decade. Half inch marine plywood with a few spacers is also a great way to bodge together a mounting solution for various things.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

As an electrician I'll say this.... this was NOT an electrician doing this work. I dunno. Whoever did this should be using wood and glue or be out assembling swing sets in peoples back yards where they won't be able to start a fire. Brutal, brutal electrical work here.

[@turbokatzenburg5732]

The flex in the attic will heat up like a giant toaster coil under a ground fault and will not trip a 100a breaker. You cannot use flex as a gounding means. That exact situation caused a serious fire at a restaurant that my sister and brother in law was at one night. My sister noticed the lights flickering while she was in the restroom, and just as she got back to the table the staff was evacuating the building. The lights went out and flames broke through the ceiling just before they got out of the door.

[@adjithwk257]

Title of the video, oh my god me too. Because sometimes the only way to get something done right is to do it yourself even though you should be delegating.

[@legionofanon]

I was thinking, and waiting for more info, that you should call or send this to an inspector over this job, but the gold was struck at 4:45 when you said the company that did the job watches your videos. So nevermind to the inspector job, they got the shame needed to not do this again

[@Straycurrent]

Considering the pathetic electrical job, I think your reaction was actually calm and reserved. Stayin' cool on a hot roof.

[@ouch1011]

I have no professional experience with commercial or residential electrical work, but even the slightest amount of common sense would indicate that the work of the previous hack (won’t even call them an electrician) was crap. As someone else said, melted wires are typically caused by resistance in the circuit. The fuses and circuit breakers protect the wiring from melting due to overloading. As long as the circuit protection and wiring is sized correctly, even if there is a direct short to ground, the circuit protection will trip before the wire is significantly damaged. So yeah, odds are the problem was a crappy connection, not a failure of the HVAC unit. I have no professional experience in commercial wiring, but I have extensive professional experience in automotive electrical and electrical basics/circuit protection basics are the same. Also, the saying is “I *couldn’t* care less.” If you could care less, that means you care.

[@fluffyblue4006]

If that HVAC unit develops a fault that creates a path to ground, then that conduit potentially needs to deal with a current of up to 100 Amps. If that happens, that conduit will get so hot that it melts everything in it and around it. I mean, if the total resistance of the short to ground is a bit higher than 2 Ohms, the breaker won't trip and something will start burning for sure. Ground connection should be same gauge as the power wires. Just screwing it to a piece of conduit that is probably grounded via fittings, a length of pipe, some more fittings, a length of flex, another fitting and finally, the case of the main panel, well, that is not acceptable.

[@16vSciroccoboi]

The conduit will have zero issues carrying that amount of current back to ground and it's perfectly legal to use it to do so as long as it's properly bonded at the service end and along it's length. Ground wires also absolutely do not need to be the same size as current carrying conductors. They clear faults long enough for the overcurrent protection to trip, they can be much smaller and still function properly. The issues with this particular installation are clear, but there's nothing wrong with using EMT as a ground conductor. And it's definitely not going to get hot enough to melt anything. It wouldn't even get warm to the touch.

[@trainexpo1971]

It's funny. I'm not an ac/heat engineer. But I like watching ur videos. They are really interesting to because u take a lot of time to explain what the problem is and how to fix it. U have a way of explaining like we r there with you. I think it is really cool. Keep up with the awesome videos and jobs that you do. Stay safe. Take care. Kenny.

[@SproutyPottedPlant]

It sounds lovely when all the stages start up and hearing those beefy compressors humming away happily 😊👍

[@taytaytheoriginal4850]

I can literally hear the electricians saying, “eh no one’s gonna come up here to see it”

[@Nyarly_Relyeh]

- It's 113 degrees in the shade today! - So, keep out of the shade.

[@extracrazyguy]

I can say 100% that lugs in a stretch of wire greater than 20 feet with a load of 80 amps is GOING TO GENERATE HEAT from voltage loss at that weak connection point! The first time all 3 compressors lock in the OHM leakin lugs are almost like a fuseable link waiting to pop when its loaded during the middle of the day and the voltage drops slightly from all the other businesses running full tilt. The grids are massively overloaded even here in the laughlin NV area ... and they shouldn't be ! But they keep building more and more high density residential without adding any generation stations to feed the power needs of the area.. Because agenda 21/2030 wont allow us to construct any more powerplants because its not "green" enough to burn gas to make power . Im glad I got off the rooftops in 2011 , Even if it was via an ambulance.

[@liam3284]

Overload is unlikely to be generation, rather cost cutting on distribution (poles, wire, transformers).

[@ShukenFlash]

3:42 It looks like the back wire was already starting to get cut into by the sharp edge with no bushing. Guess that's their form of job security, leave things that will get you another service call when the feed shorts and fries everything again. That's terrible.

[@shadowdemon7770]

6:00 you think he's done complaining lol and then he gets so pissed that he just can't handle it. 🤣 I understand his frustration. I feel it

[@c117ls7]

I'd like to know why they had to cut the power to the building to run that feed. Maybe they had an older box or something but typically most of those can be run without turning off the main

[@liam3284]

I get running larger wires if the previous ones overheated, but not grounding a system like that is asking for trouble.

[@cleko89]

I'd submit a change order to that electrical contractor. That was some hack work

[@GamingwithGamerGirls]

love how the duct detector is "mounted" bahahahah.

[@matthewgibbs9903]

Go for it, full send! There are too many good electricians that take pride in their work that would never dream of leaving a hot pile of garbage like that. When technicians in any field do shoddy work like that, they should be called out so hopefully the ones that do good work will get the job next time allowing the trade to continue to be respected.

[@ijac]

You take pride in your work unlike the electrician great job.

[@aeternusdoleo4531]

Opening that electrical panel is going to be super easy! Barely an inconvenience!

[@dashcamandy2242]

Hello, fellow fan of "Pitch Meeting!"

[@DarthVader-mx9rm]

Oh really!?

[@richardbrooks3569]

I have been into many electrical rooms and found that electricians never clean up after themselves.

[@AKStorm49]

I've been looking at getting my electrical license due to bad electricians up here. We've made multiple trips to remote locations because electricians couldn't get their tihs together. Maybe it could lead to something else but at this point, it'd be to make my life easier.

[@shifter8207]

It’s hack and moe show right there with that electrical lol

[@fellpower]

This electrical wiring is awfull....whats happening with ppl doing this crap?

[@kaptaintrips]

Why is it always "Hurry up and Wait" with electricians? It's not as though I envy their job because it seems to be a monotonous plus tedious and unfulfilled trade to me but FFS, instill some pride in your trade, shoddy electricians... you're getting scale...

[@billwalton4120]

Cheap labor isn't skilled....and skilled labor isn't cheap. I feel your frustration

[@TheDrew2022]

Noticed a small flash right @14:29 from a bottom lug of the center contactor.

[@markae0]

I had to watch it three times to see it.

[@ChurchOfTheHolyMho]

I only caught it at 0.5x speed.

[@TheDrew2022]

@@ChurchOfTheHolyMho It's like maybe a frame or two. I saw it, and had to replay the few seconds a couple times to confirm it was a flash, not a glitch in the video.

[@jeffw.4604]

I"m just going to say it....That's laziness, NOT incompetence.

[@lexmarks567]

Probably hired somones druncle and offered them a few 12 packs to do the electrical. Your 15 year old son could do a better job.

[@lawrencecavens5760]

I'd call the electrician company back - report your findings to the company and get it corrected - ASAP or faster...

[@GhostlyPlayz94]

Now thats crazy. I've never seen an electrian thats ever done a job that poorly. That's not how it should've been done. Also the ground wire in that box? That is not safe whatsoever. Glad you were able to fix some the issues they caused after they did stuff to it.

[@VikingDudee]

Man, im no professional but I do under how electric works and I do know most of the safty reasoning behind some things like that bushing, My uncle bought a old bar that was closed down for 30 some years, he was turning it into a store, it needed a new breaker box and wiring done just so it'll be up to code for the inspector, he hired this company to do the electric and install a new breaker box and he had no idea how to tell what wire went to what outlet or room. We sat there and just let him do his thing, a 60 foot long wall and about 12 different outlets, he was only able to get 2 of them working, don't get me started on the drop ceiling lights. He fired that guy and asked the company to send someone else, they refused to work with us, so I did it, I found all the outlets with a beeper and vehicle 12v power prob and I got every single outlet working along with replacing every metal outlet box to newer plastic ones, all the lights, the 220v in the kitchen and bundled everything up nicely in the breaker box, and it passed inspection.

[@davidfloyd6084]

judging by the missed screw and trash. you knew wxactly what kind of work was done, or not done in this case. im impressed they even put a ground. lol electricians cleaning up trash, thats funny. they ran 1 1/2 for the over sized 1/0 wire weirdly enough they followed code because the wire inside the pipe cant exceed 40-60% of pipe diameter. and there are other special rules for that as well

[@brnmcc01]

Good job with that electrical mess. I don't like that short piece of flex gas line going into the unit, that's not allowed here, needs to be hard piped to outside of the unit. It's a straight shot, wonder why they even used a short piece of ProFlex, too lazy to climb off the roof and head across the parking lot to lowes and grab a 12" nipple? How many BTU is the heating on this unit, that only looks like 1/2" gas line up to the shutoff valve. I just finished installing a 13 ton new Lennox unit similar to this one, and the gas line is all 1", ran from a 2" main on the roof.

[@ericsanders4922]

Man I usually don't comment but hearing you berate the electricians makes you look like the Super Tech of the decade. Look I get it, because it is frustrating but when you go on and on talking crap in such a sarcastic passive aggressive way makes you look horrible. I've probably got close to your time on the job (But maybe not) I started as a helper in 1995. I also service all types of restaurant hot and cold side equipment. I got in my own truck a couple of years later I would get upset and talk all kinds of mad shit. But I'm very grateful one of the old timers pulled me to the side and let me know how it made me look like I wasn't confident in my own workmanship if I feel the need to throw others under the proverbial bus. I have watched a few of your videos, it's very clear that you know what you're doing. I just wanted to pass on that small nugget of wisdom to you that I got from that old timer.

[@prothermal_refrigerationHVAC]

Gas flex pipe also plumber connected or hvac? let me know what wrong with it?

[@rodgraff1782]

Cluster F. Why all the flex? Can’t they bend ridged conduit? Why did the original service from the AC to the panel fry? If they didn’t find a reason, maybe it will happen again. LB’s are not meant to be junction boxes. They are their to aid in pulling wire. Find out who did it and give them a call. Great video. I would check all the conduit connections for tightness, as it serves as the ground, when there is no separate grounding wire. I would us a megger on all the motors and compressors. Obviously, you know more than the electrician. I would re check the voltage imbalance when everything is running and under load. Shouldn’t that gas flex be eliminated? At least hard pipe run thru to the outside of the cabinet. Good video.

[@KacperKiler]

I am industrial field engineer, and technitian, if i would do something like this i would lose my job AND my dignity

[@lawrencecavens5760]

I really hope you documented the issues and reported the poor job - hopefully you were compensated for the re-do you had to perform...But really that was a accident waiting to happen that you caught and did the right thing by correcting it.

[@markbeiser]

Yesterday I couldn't spell electrocian, today I are one!🤣 I'm hyper vigilant about leaving debris on membrane roofs, so even just seeing it as you walked up triggered a facial tic...

[@glen4130]

I deal with this kind of stuff all the time. They KNOW no one of any importance will be on the roof to inspect their work.

[@mr.invisible3770]

I would have locked out the panel and made the electrician re-do it!

[@kmagnussen1052]

“Electrician technician” looking at the job said, “hold my beer and watch this.” If it violates code people could die! It just seems to me that these systems should be more sealed from the dusts and windblown rain just an observation. I know it would costs more but I always say do it right the first time or be doomed to do it over and over again.

[@matthewbeddow3278]

If you told me the guys had done the work blindfolded then it would still be bad, here in the UK we would call that a 'bodge it and scarper job'.

[@sirsparksalot]

Example of the state of our trade these days. Workmanship to most is a name of a boat not a measure or expectation of quality. Looks good from their house, right? Feel your frustration on a daily basis. I try to teach new and old to take pride in their work but you either have it or not, convinced its not a learned behavior.

[@Sakyn4]

Poor electrician may've been having a bad day but it doesn't excuse the quality of work.

[@TylerTheIT]

I am not an HVAC guy. Not even close. I am an IT guy. But I for some reason find your videos really interesting. I've probably watched about 20 of them in the last couple of weeks. It might be your personality and style of explaining things which is similar to mine. Keep it up!

[@JamesBarnes-xd9bj]

Don’t look in the attic! Pandoras Box “Polishing a terd” I love it!!!

[@stevenhorne5089]

I've got a question about those electrical boots going through the roof. Are they suppose to be like that? To me it seems as though they'll fill with water and then drip into the interior. Water will always find a way to go where you don't want it to.