*THIS* is why I wait before getting Eden in Final Fantasy 8 Remastered - Path to Tiamat Guide!

[@sofachillreview2135]

FF VIII has the most beautiful OST

[@charondolls]

7,8,9 have gorgeous OST

[@Tokiwartoothnotabumblebee]

The castle is my absolute favourite final fantasy track, for me no other compares. I love playing it on my phone when I am performing lab work. Thanks for a brilliant ff 8 walkthrough fuzz, it has been a blast watching it!

[@jameswong5535]

Your knowledge of the game is so extensive. I was just playing to enjoy, then I recognized that to play it well, I must learn how to junction n collect all sorts of rare items, magic, converting stuff. Thanks for sharing, the game itself requires a fair bit of knowledge!

[@slapyomomma7941]

1:20 those door's you can actually jump into them and they take you back to the world but your also in time compression so you can't go places like you could, i bet theres a secret about those doors once you go back out

[@pointedspider]

When I played this back in 98, I used the Brady Games book. Without it I would have never known about certain side quest or items. I've been watching your play thur, albeit not keeping up to well but when I play it this time, I'm going commando!

[@Mangomesh]

Did Brady Games go bust? I still have that guide.

[@pointedspider]

@@Mangomesh internet prolly killed um

[@Mangomesh]

@@pointedspider Its a damn shame, I love those Brady Games guidebooks..... I mean they are not perfect, but better than nothing. I wonder if Square enix have any plans to release a E-Guide for FF7R?

[@LobsterFusion]

FF8 Brady Guide was incredible. Sooooo much information. The FF7 guide was sh!t though. Like every boss strategy after a certain point was like “use Knights of the Round to beat this boss”

[@jmthehologram]

@@LobsterFusion to be fair it's a great strategy, especially on Emerald weapon

[@Auchaser643]

Okay KZbin 4 days in my feed I'm here now

[@technomage6736]

The original official strategy guide says that all GFs missed during the game can be acquired throughout Ultimecia's Castle from the various bosses, and lists which boss has which summon.

[@toddburgess5056]

Interesting, i did not know that.

[@harry011984]

There aren't many fixed encounters in the deep sea research center provided that you do the steam puzzle correctly. You need to get the reserve steam on level 2 and then you can leave yourself with 10. The forced encounters happen when Zell forces the door open with the steam released.

[@harry011984]

Well provided you have 'encounter none' which you will.

[@samsonites]

Yes, at my first trial of this game, I never knew there's a correct puzzle solution for the steam. I let Zell to punch the bottom machine but there are fix encounters even when you junction the "enc-none" ability. After so many years I played this game again, I searched for the steam to be input correctly and the fix encounter are gone, giving me an access to Ultima Weapon quickly.

[@bdhuffman42]

Awesome stream today and great content as always. I really appreciate how quickly you are able to push out these videos.

[@dddd-hz5xf]

you can also spend a few hrs running around the island closest to heaven/hell and devour all the enemies on there, and you can draw all the great spells hidden there too. It took me just under 5hrs of grinding to get all characters to 255 strength (unjuntioned) t-rex will increase Str, Behemoth will increase magic, ruby dragon will increase HP, adamantoise will increase VIT. By doing it your way, wouldnt you have to now backtrack all the way out? backtracking is never advisable IMO. And If you get Eden before disk 4, you can enter Ultimecia castle with everyone having max stats

[@rosamontoya9154]

I don't think you can leave ultimecia castle once you've entered I know I've tried and couldn't the beach where the chains are connecting it once you go there you can't back out which sucks

[@mirka.3]

Woah under 5 hrs! Can u give any tips? I'm replaying it and it took me like 20 minutes to get just 2 str points and I felt like it'll take 4ever to reach 255 for ONE character!!

[@RedMarioXIIINanaki36]

@@rosamontoya9154 You CAN LEAVE Ultimecia's Castle, There's "3 Portals" That LEAD TO The "World Map" In The Game(And A "4TH Hidden Portal" On The "Right-Hand Side"(Maybe There's More?)). Use The "Middle Portal" On The "Left Side" And It'll Put You On The "Centra" Continent And You Can Then Find The "Chocobo Forest" In That Area(I Think It's "Intermediate"?) And You'll Find The "Chocobo" Of That One Waiting For You. Take It, Then Ride It To The "Other" Centra Continent From THAT ONE(Passing "Centra Ruins") Until You Find "Edea's House"(Which Is LOCKED OFF(ALL TOWNS/Places Are NOW LOCKED OFF EXCEPT For The "Dungeons" Such As "Fire Cavern", "Tomb Of The Unknown King", "Tears' Point", "DSRC", ETC.). Then, From There, Go To Where The "Esthar-Kashkabald Desert" Is(Where You FIRST FOUND The "Ragnarok" In The Game) And You GET BACK Your "Ragnarok"(The "4TH" Portal Is Also There). Also, IF You COMPLETED The "CC Group Quest" BEFORE "End Of Disc 3" Then ALL Of The "NPCs" From "Balamb Garden" Will Be OnBoard The "Ragnarok" As Well. Fuzz Actually WENT OVER ALL This In His Walkthrough.

[@toddburgess5056]

​@@rosamontoya9154yes you can, you can even get the Ragnarok and fly all across the map. Theres actually 4 different doors scattered across the map that all lead back to the castle once you exit it.

[@xAshe10x]

Awesome guides as always Fuzzy keep up the great work, I maxed out Luck with Irvine and Zell years ago haha.

[@KnightzANT]

Ashe! .. you're the coolest, love your videos man!

[@papaAJ88]

Hey Ashe10, I am using your guide to 100% FF8 currently! Thanks to you and Fuzz for the great videos. I'm ready to grind to lv 100 just getting tips for Eden first. Happy grinding! :)

[@doctordr1397]

Something that solves this is getting hungry cookpot from angelo search during fight with turtapod in esthar... then you can learn devour without even getting eden

[@RedMarioXIIINanaki36]

LOVE Those DSRC FIXED ENCS! GREAT EXP, GREAT ITEM-FARM Process, Etc.!

[@legatomodi3522]

in refernce to what you said about the castle music 3:50, nobuo utesimatsu really out did himself with the music here. the final boss music in FF8 was brilliant. He even did better than FF7s One Winged Angel and thats really saying something. Almost every final boss theme starts the same but not this time. It builds and when it takes off, it perfectly encompasses the atmosphere and emotion and energy of the moment.

[@jasonguarnieri4127]

Tiamat was Megumin before Megumin.

[@toddburgess5056]

I wish the GFs were obtainable earlier in the game, it sucks getting them so late in the game and not have much to use them on. It always seemed like FF8 finished too early, i always wanted more of the game to use all my newly acquired items and skills.

[@averagegamerguy3064]

you can use the islands of heaven and hell to max stats so saving the fixed encounters is kinda of a weak reason off skipping

[@lyndonbauer1703]

Not if you're after curse spikes for dark matter

[@uhby6297]

@@lyndonbauer1703 Spikes are plentiful under balamb garden and on the islands.

[@uhby6297]

I completely agree. I'd rather have the GF abilities available early on.

[@ot5060]

Yeah why need to wait at disc4 when story about to end 🤣

[@MichealReese]

I got 8 dark matters via tool refine just trying to get gfs to lvl 100 with Edea for low level characters. Dropped from Marlboro. Outside Esthar, encounter Marlboro, lvl up (eventually twice) Edea berserk, confuse, sleep, pain status defense, once lvl 100 for Edea (but not gfs yet), take berserk defense off and I'd get my 2 lvl ups in b4 bad breath 95% of the time, auto mode at that point. Yield 10 curse spikes. Save, then exit, load, Marlboro encounter, repeat. The curse spikes seemed to drop more than marlboro tentacles and royal crown or whatever it was combined. Was very fast accrual!

[@jdtainui2830]

Tiamat is female goddess of evil dragons!

[@danielmorris738]

I only recently discovered that Tiamat is actually bahamut’s sister, trivial fact

[@SIDEKICKONYOUTUBE]

could you elaborate which fixed encounters we will be missing if we kill Ultima Weapon on Disc 3 ? and what do we get from them.. thanks

[@RedMarioXIIINanaki36]

You MUST LEAVE "Ultimate Weapon" ALIVE To GET ANY Of Those "Fixed ENCs" In DSRC. Once You KILL HIM, They're ALL GONE. The MOST EFFICIENT Ones Are The "Tri-Faces", "Behemoths", "Ruby Dragons", And Possibly The "Iron Giants". The MAIN ONE Though Is The "Tri-Faces". You Can DRAW "Eden" Off "Tiamat" In "Ultimecia's Castle".

[@dragonspring5932]

Thanks fuzz you helped out so much started my own low level game for the challenge.

[@rosamontoya9154]

Not much of a challenge lol makes everything incredibly easy sometimes boring

[@Draconalanon]

If you miss the armory key it falls into the basement I think.

[@codymoreland4496]

Yep it falls in the water right outside the door that says you need the armory key to open it.

[@justsomeguy4422]

I just did a sloppy playthrough of FF8 and now I wanna do a low level playthrough for that pure stat maxing “fun” learning this about Eden def helps a ton with the curse spike farm fix encs I was Lowkey worried i was gonna have to farm on the isles closest to heaven or hell for them. And without a ribbon screeew malaboros haha

[@tingor604]

Wondering if you bother levelling Eden to Max after draw her from Tiamat, just like you did to other GFs with Edea b4 Esther

[@stormvexed]

Weird. I just got to ultimacia's castle on my first remaster playthrough and none of the bosses were there. I found Tiamat but I was so confused. I didn't know what to do and I played it so long ago!

[@malifex9922]

If they were to remake Ultimecia's castle in a future version of the game, I would love the ability seal mechanic being custom-attuned for each boss. You don't unlock abilities as you go. Rather, the bosses determine which abilities are locked to keep each fight unique and tightly-tuned. Kind of like how the later Espers worked in FFXII.

[@THEAPRILFOOL-1983]

If you cause the key to fall off the bridge is there a way to retrieve it later I sort of jumped the gun a little bit and ran across

[@Roksana-gy1ek]

I unlocked limit on my first seal break. The only one which works for killing other bosses

[@unnamedlegeon]

I hope some modders out there to change the fix encounter rate in the DRC to be retain even after defeating UM, because the devs in the FF8 remaster didn't change it 😁.

[@A1rPun]

2:00 Where is the eden card though? Maybe I'm blind.

[@JakeRBlaso-nh7oq]

Wait. What!? I already had Eden yesterday on disc 3.

[@jackylee5850]

Since you got the Lionheart, should instead unlock limit break first, then use it to fight Tri-Point and then unlock draw. Otherwise you'd be hacking away at Tiamat with regular attacks only, not impossible with sufficient strength, but a slow process nonetheless Still, there's really no reason to get Eden here, especially if you went through the trouble of getting bahamut at the deep sea research center. There's almost no opportunity to use Eden itself at this point, as ultimecia instantly destroys any GF summoned. Plus, you'll have to go look for the ragnarok and go back to cactuar island to rapidly learn Eden's abilities, something that should have been done before ending disc 3

[@gustlabbao412]

I get the point of harvesting dark matter bruh, Rather I consider this a perfect map condition In the ps version there is a thing called gameshark... On the pc side the lighter one chocoworld is more ratger easier way to get stat ups There is also infinite money glicht at the same time with the call shop plus refing some rare sheets you get stat ups.... The only notable thing on that part of tge map is the curse spike, aka dark matter farming... I literally played this hardcore and made a perfect gameplay... Every nook and cranny of this game I will never forget, lol

[@Darealpokgai]

i wonder if they remake ff8 will they make this dungeon into something like the re1 mansion

[@NEKVAHN]

How do u walk in Final Fantasy?Key falling off bridge

[@xeartnexus3020]

Hold in cancel button while moving, I think.

[@the86fleet43]

I get why you haven’t gotten Odin yet, but technically, shouldn’t a true 100% playthrough mean you get all GF’s including Gilgamesh? Love the vids, keep em comin :)

[@willjohnboy]

He prioritized Angelo search over Gilgamesh and doesn't rate the gf he prefers odin even though he only helps against mobs.

[@user-cc6ru2ys8i]

nah, I was able to get all the items from angelo search and still get Gilgamesh, just do the turtapod farming trick after lunar base and get Odin on disc 3 before the Seifer fight.

[@the86fleet43]

Willjohnboy I get that. I said so in my comment that I understand his reasoning. But technically a true 100% would surely require getting Gilgamesh to replace Odin?

[@willjohnboy]

@@the86fleet43 I agree Gilgamesh is part of a 100 percent I always get him in my full playthroughs, I'm quite sure he said he was mainly going for the platinum with all the sidequests.

[@dylpickle0192]

@@user-cc6ru2ys8iI’m doing Angelo Search farming now on Disc 3 before I go get Odin and progress… 6 hrs in with 3x speed, still 0 Mog Amulets, Ribbon or Friendship… I really, really hate this lol

[@LOVEPHOENIXDANCER]

way late but do you know what is the point of that organ? i never never figured it out

[@cesarpalacios5782]

Way later. If yo go rigth were the fountain is you will find a passaged closed with some metal pipes. If you press all the buttons at the same time in the organ; the path will open and you wil find a Rosseta stone( teach G.F. ability x 4).

[@JakeRBlaso-nh7oq]

Final Fantasy VIII has the best designs when it comes to weapons. Same with Final Fantasy X.

[@pointedspider]

What happens if u run across the bridge?

[@jaceycarlos]

It falls and you'll have to fetch it at the dungeon right below it.

[@NEKVAHN]

How do u walk?I know but I cant figure it out

[@seancondon5572]

That's... not a bell. It is a pendulum.

[@FuzzfingerGaming]

I always called it a pendulum until people on live stream chat were saying it’s a bell lol.

[@starsnstrife]

doing things like this at disk 4 is pointless, the whole story is almost over. I'm getting eden as soon as possible.

[@cristianpallares7565]

At that point I lose all interest as well... Guess I paid this game to many times 😔

[@jetstormable]

so how you able to get eden card if you drawn eden from tiamat? and you wont able to earn star status for completing all cards before disk 4

[@RedMarioXIIINanaki36]

As LONG As You COMPLETE The CC Group Quest(AND Queen Of Cards Quest) AND Get ALL RARE CARDS In The Game(Aside From The "Eden" And "Odin" Cards) BEFORE Going To Lunatic Pandora With Your Ragnarok, You Can STILL Get ANY RARE Cards ONBOARD The Ragnarok In The TIME-COMPRESSED-WORLD. The MAIN THING Is To COMPLETE The CC Group And Queen Of Cards Sidequests BEFORE Going For Lunatic Pandora. The Left Girl Of The Diamond Duo Will PLAY ANY RARE CARD From ALL RARE CARDS That You REFINE Into Items.

[@rosamontoya9154]

@@RedMarioXIIINanaki36 Except player cards right ? Only the gf cards

[@RedMarioXIIINanaki36]

@@rosamontoya9154 ALL RARE Cards, PLAYER Cards Too(Rinoa, Squall, Seifer, Selphie, Quistis, Irvine, Edea, Etc.).

[@RedMarioXIIINanaki36]

@@rosamontoya9154 Edit: The ONLY REALLY RARE Card You DO NOT Wanna REFINE Is The "Pupu" Card.

[@TheVergile]

ultimately FF8 is so easy that its pointless to discuss about this. its fun to go crazy and become op on disc 1 - its a fun run to do for every fan. but thats that. there simply is no challenge that requires even the slightest amount of stat optimisation

[@rosamontoya9154]

Omega weapon ultimecia herself the end battles can be pretty difficult

[@TheVergile]

@@rosamontoya9154 not really. whenever you see people having difficulties with them its because they dont fully understand the crafting and junctioning system. Even if you dont play cards or collect items you get endgame magic for free on the two islands. It takes almost no effort to max out your most important stats. Your level doesnt matter at all. In fact the less you level up the easier the game is. The limit break attacks from Xell, squall and irvine are so incredibly OP and easy to get you can oneshot all normal bosses and even finish omega/ultima weapon in no time at all. FF8 gives you anything you need for free or very little effort. And there is little strategy required once you get good junctioning magic. Haste+Aura+Limit break is a mono strategy that always works. Compared to the endgame challenges of other final fantasy games FF8 is extremely easy and takes little time to prepare

[@TheGravitune]

True. IMO FF8 is one of the weakest instalments of the series 😎

[@TheVergile]

@@TheGravitune eh, id strongly disagree. I vastly prefer it over FF7 and FF9 (both of which are great games in their own right, dont get me wrong). Its just that Final Fantasy games in general and FF8 in particular arent what you would call difficult. FF8 was specifically made to never be grindy. The whole junctionin system and the way monsters progress with your level haave one purpose: to make it so there never is even a minute you need to grind. You can of course do it. But it is never necessary - not even for Ultima/Omega weapon. You can get everything you need to beat them without having to fight monsters and they actually get easier the lower level you are.

[@Marc83Aus]

Not interested in the spoilers. But clicked for Nobuo Uematsu.

[@willjohnboy]

Why didn't you go after ultima weapon after doing the fixed encounters you could have learned more or all of edens skills and still fought tiamat.

[@xAshe10x]

The reason is you cant get Luck Up without Eden's GF Abl RF so you have to do your grinding with Eden.

[@whiteeeveeangel]

@@xAshe10x actually that's not true. With the Odin glitch, you can mug a Luck-J Scroll from him every 20 minutes, which is about as fast as collecting the 100 Curse Spikes from Tri-Faces. Plus, on top of the Odin glitch, there's also the Monteith method for enemy spawn RNG manipulation, which guarantees us encounters with all Devour enemies for stat boosts on the world map. (Ruby Dragon, T-Rexaur, Adamantoise, Behemoth, and Malboro). So personally, I prefer to get Eden from Ultima Weapon before I start power-leveling so that Eden can level up with everyone else.

[@xAshe10x]

@@whiteeeveeangel WTF Really? i didn't know you could Escape from Odin Fight

[@whiteeeveeangel]

@@xAshe10x Yeah! Fuzz recently did a video on it! You can't speed up the timer at all, so it is a guaranteed 20min endeavor, but if you start a final Renzokuken on Odin that would normally kill him, but the timer runs out after the animation sequence stats, but before the first hit connects to "kill" him, the game defaults to kicking you out of the Centre Ruins after the fight as if you never made it to him within the time limit. So you can just reenter and do it again, getting the same spoils and all each time! XD

[@xAshe10x]

@@whiteeeveeangel 20 minutes ok i will test how fast i can get 100 curse spikes with x3 speed later

[@HaqiKusanagi]

Gee. You sound exactly like Oaka the XXIII.

[@davidblack6365]

No, He sounds exactly like Alan Carr.

[@MentalOutlvl6]

Im going to start 8 any tips and how do i get the ultimate weapons and tips to max level my characters i intend on using rinoa Laguna squall quistis Selphyie

[@MichealReese]

I'm disc 3 and CHOOSE to keep starting weapons except Selphie and Quistis for carding reasons. Squall no trigger can attack buel and geezard as examples and nit kill to card. Selphie I don't really use so meh, Quistis has micro missles which is perfect for carding. Demi is used for red bats early on to keep the seed rank happy while farming holy

[@Mangomesh]

Isn't Tiamat Female?

[@FuzzfingerGaming]

No idea if I'm honest.

[@Mangomesh]

@@FuzzfingerGaming The queen of evil dragons, I think that's why she uses dark flare....... I'd have to read up on it to be sure. By the way, I like the idea about waiting until Disc 4 to get Eden!

[@Garviel-Loken]

She is! At least in D&D she is. She could be male in other media.

[@Mangomesh]

@@Garviel-Loken I have a copy of the squaresoft FF8 guide, it does refer to Tiamat as a he, however this guide isn't the ultimate guide, more of a supplement guide........ Tiamat to me is the queen of dragons, and Bahamut is the King.

[@Garviel-Loken]

@@Mangomesh I have the guide. Should have looked in it. Bahumut and tiamat are actually gods of dragons as opposed to king and queen. In Arabic mythology bahumut is a giant fish and tiamat in from babalonian mythology and is either a serpent or a dragon, she was split in half to after being killed by marduk. But it does appear in ff8 that tiamat has become male.

[@yurimoura9698]

why take Eden with Tiamat and not with last weapon ??? I did not understand.

[@whiteeeveeangel]

Hey, Fuzz, any reason why you decided not to get Eden from Ultima now that we're aware of the Monteith method? We can RNG-manipulate all of the fixed-encounter monsters on the world map once we have the Ragnarok, and with the Odin glitch, we have access to all of the Luck Ups we want whenever we want. (It's no faster getting 100 Curse Spikes than the 20min to get Luck-J Scrolls from Odin regardless of how we encounter the Tri-Faces). Just curious...

[@Rs3mocha]

Do you go back to play this game? Lol

[@skyown3678]

Don't u get Eden by draw to ultima weapon?

[@RedMarioXIIINanaki36]

You Don't Necessarily HAVE To Draw Eden From Ultima Weapon, You CAN DRAW "Eden" From Tiamat Which He Did. I Did As Well In Mine.

[@Roksana-gy1ek]

If u ask me, my fave final dungeons are 8-10 and 15.

[@randyvoid155]

TIL you can draw eden from tiamat.

[@TheWizeTim]

That, and you can draw all of the missable GF, like Siren, Alexander, and so on, from the other bosses in the endgame dungeon.

[@randyvoid155]

@@TheWizeTim that i knew, but i never missed them

[@rosamontoya9154]

What about bahamut? Where can you get him I always thought tiamat had bahamut since they are very similar

[@VincentPascual]

@@rosamontoya9154 You can fight him at the Deep Sea Research Center on either Disc 3 or Disc 4. That gets you Bahamut as a GF as well as his card.

[@christopherpatterson8981]

They need to bring back lightning and serah and all the other characters of ff13

[@maoetsu]

James Gravil yeah. Because why WOULDN’T a 14-year old kid be mentally traumatized or whiny after witnessing the death of his mother at such a young age. Yep. Guess he should’ve been a big boi and just, got over it huh? Mhm.

[@ThunderstruckGames]

I have to do this correction for Tiamat. Tiamat is a SHE, not a HE.

[@DinDonDan.]

Nah. That's the mythological Tiamat, this one is at most an IT. Also, the SHE Tiamat wasn't a dragon. A silly correction at best.

[@thangquang6096]

By this way you don't have eden card

[@amidamaru1981]

what the stupid thing i see??? why?? you can draw it from ultima. and if you miss any @draw gf's@ you can draw it from ultimecia monsters too

[@Tukemuth]

I believe Tiamat is a girl.

[@miguelito3265]

Why not just press R3 and have unlimited limit breaks

[@dreambiscuits]

That's not fun at all dude

[@Roksana-gy1ek]

Plus fuzz hasn't unlocked the limit seal. Pointless!

[@miguelito3265]

@@dreambiscuits it is for emergency, in the old final fantasy viii not remastered, you couldn't speed the game nor have unlimited limit break

[@dreambiscuits]

@@miguelito3265 where was the emergency lol

[@miguelito3265]

@@dreambiscuits if there's some really tough enemies and your not strong enough, well use it

[@terryautry6493]

yes ultima is not hard at all

[@00076Paint]

Make sure not to level up your characters to 100 before getting Eden.

[@rosamontoya9154]

Why not ?

[@RedMarioXIIINanaki36]

@@rosamontoya9154 The REASON To STAY LOW LEVEL Throughout The ENTIRE GAME UP UNTIL You Defeat "Jumbo Cactuar" And Get Your "Cactuar" GF Is Because It Makes The Game SO MUCH EASIER(Thus, You Can Make FULL USE Of ALL The "Stat Gains" For EACH One Of Your "Characters"). The "GFs" That "Come With" The "Stat Bonus" Abilities Are: Ifrit(STR Bonus), Siren(MAG Bonus), Brothers(HP Bonus), Carbuncle(VIT Bonus), Leviathan(SPR Bonus), And Cactuar(Comes With ALL Them). AT MAXIMUM, You Would WANT MOST Your Characters AT LEVEL 10(With The EXCEPTION Being "Rinoa" And "Irvine", Who Both Join At Levels "11" And "13", Respectively). You Can Also Do The "Seifer" Trick In The Dollet SeeD Exam And LEVEL UP Your "Quezacotl", "Shiva", And "Ifrit" GFs And LEVEL ONLY Seifer "Without" Leveling Squall And Zell(Same Thing Can Be Done With "Edea" WAY LATER ON In The Game With OTHER GFs). ANOTHER Thing You Can DO On "Disc 1" EARLY ON, Is You Can LEVEL ONE CHARACTER(And ONLY ONE CHARACTER) Like "Irvine" Or "Quistis" To An OBSCENELY HIGH LEVEL Like "I" Did To Like Level 67 Or So So You Can Fight LV30+ Enemies WITHOUT Leveling Anyone ELSE. The REASON I SAY One Of "Those" 2 Is Because I'd Reccommend "Irvine", Since He Joins At Level 13 By Default, But Quistis Is Another Option If You Wanna Farm "Laser Cannons" Off Those "Elastoids" In Laguna Scenario 2. There IS Another Way To Get Them Though In Squall's World Though Before Deling City: The Belhelmels(That's How I Got Them). The LV30+ Belhelmels Drop Them At A 5% Drop Rate. I Think The Reason He Said "Wait UNTIL You Get "Eden" To LEVEL" Is Because THEN You Have ALL GFs.

[@RedMarioXIIINanaki36]

@@rosamontoya9154 Oh Yes, Rosa, If You Look Over "My" FF8, I Go Over More In-Depth On Some Of The Other Stuff In The Game Too As Well(Like What I Did With Spreading "Open" To FH From Deling City Before I Even Get There). I Have "Highlights" That I Made From That Game When I Did It.

[@DinDonDan.]

@@RedMarioXIIINanaki36 The only reason to use STR or MAG Bonus is for completionists purpose. There's no real need to get all stats to 255, and even then, you can do that easily junctioning the right way. Hell, with STR+60% you can get to 255 with Blizzard.

[@RedMarioXIIINanaki36]

@@DinDonDan. Oh I Know, I Was Just Going Over Everything From The Start As If Starting From Scratch. The MAIN THING With The "MAG" Stat Is Having A HIGH MAG STAT So You Can "Draw" More Easily(And Not Having "Failed Attempts" At "Drawing Magic). As For "STR", It's Your MAIN TOOL At "Damage Dealing" Throughout The Game(But ONLY Against "Bosses"(Add The "Drain" Spell To Your "ST-ATK"(Which You CAN Get On "Disc 1" If You "Draw" It Off "Lefty" If You Go Into "One Specific Spot" After "Leaving "Timber" Which Is A "Mountain Cliff-Wall" In The "West Of Timber")) And You Basically CAN'T DIE. UNLESS Of Course If The "Boss Enemy" Is "Undead" But There's VERY FEW Of Those. In MOST CASES, Your "Limit Breaks" Do MOST Of The "Work" For "Damage". Yeah, Stats Like "STR+60%" Are REALLY GOOD.

[@OnslaughtSix]

Calling both Tiamat and Eden "he" is super stupid