THIS Is Why NO STEP BACK Changes EVERYTHING! - Hearts of Iron 4

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@FeedbackGaming
@FeedbackGaming 3 жыл бұрын
CLICK HERE To Continue The REVOLUTION! play.heartsofiron.com/FeedBackGaming
@Valiere2024
@Valiere2024 3 жыл бұрын
WHY DOES IT GIVE YOU A SPAA ICON FOR YOUR "OBVIOUSLY A MEDIUM TANK" TANK?! IMMERSION BROKEN!
@johnuthus
@johnuthus 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE DEMOCRACY
@generalaigullletes5830
@generalaigullletes5830 3 жыл бұрын
This game *perfectly* relives what real life German supplies were like in the Eastern Front :troll:
@Spiritus_Invictus
@Spiritus_Invictus 3 жыл бұрын
The Red Alert 2 theme song alone deserves a like... damn it YT we don't need a disappearing dislike we need a double like button!
@csabafarkas2274
@csabafarkas2274 3 жыл бұрын
You dont need the dlc to see trains and others. I do not have the new DLC but i got a lot of changes.
@hvcskmagyar
@hvcskmagyar 3 жыл бұрын
When you finally understand the combat mechanic in 5 years Paradox: there is another
@hvcskmagyar
@hvcskmagyar 3 жыл бұрын
And we can wait for our mods to be updated
@haukionkannel
@haukionkannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@hvcskmagyar Some years and mods will be compatible... for a while ;)
@Reddreambigfart
@Reddreambigfart 3 жыл бұрын
me irl
@morisco56
@morisco56 3 жыл бұрын
@@hvcskmagyar true, that truly sucks
@lordbaysel3135
@lordbaysel3135 3 жыл бұрын
Hoi 4 is at least recognizable, Stellaris is the one that changes the most. they changed everything about this game, twice.
@dakshsingh4780
@dakshsingh4780 3 жыл бұрын
Welp time to learn the game again after 1000 hours
@FeedbackGaming
@FeedbackGaming 3 жыл бұрын
YOU NEVER STOP LEARNING
@kevinhayes3672
@kevinhayes3672 3 жыл бұрын
@@FeedbackGaming I refust to learn but I know a youtuber who does that for me
@elarmando2954
@elarmando2954 3 жыл бұрын
I feel just the same. Like wtf am I supposed to do with the new logistics system
@the_tactician9858
@the_tactician9858 3 жыл бұрын
@@elarmando2954 Paradrop on the Russian railroads and watch the chaos ensue.
@bepisdoggo155
@bepisdoggo155 3 жыл бұрын
I swear🤌🤌👎
@Gamago
@Gamago 3 жыл бұрын
Dave: *Finds a new meta on the day of release* Paradox: "A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one"
@Louis-uu8qu
@Louis-uu8qu 3 жыл бұрын
When LEGO Indiana Jones speedrun World Record video coming out?
@Gamago
@Gamago 3 жыл бұрын
@@Louis-uu8qu When the weekly uploads come back, that's when
@Louis-uu8qu
@Louis-uu8qu 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gamago just knowing it makes it easy
@154Kilroy
@154Kilroy 3 жыл бұрын
Is it a surprise tho?😂
@Jan_Strzelecki
@Jan_Strzelecki 2 жыл бұрын
"A surprise to be sure," "but a welcome one".
@joemorris3924
@joemorris3924 3 жыл бұрын
No one gonna talk about how Dave’s new meta took 6 months to defeat ai Poland
@catalinbugi2035
@catalinbugi2035 3 жыл бұрын
the polish destoryed our railways!
@tomiv3751
@tomiv3751 3 жыл бұрын
Almost 1 year
@LabreezyFam
@LabreezyFam 3 жыл бұрын
I think he's saying he figured out the new meta during the conquest of Poland. Which is just upgrade the hell out of your rail roads I guess...
@zerindszendrey4986
@zerindszendrey4986 3 жыл бұрын
Oof
@krzysztofkozowicz9830
@krzysztofkozowicz9830 3 жыл бұрын
​@@LabreezyFam Also push hard with tanks for the logistic hubs and supply them with planes so they can fight at their max strength even without railways.
@aravindhanil7235
@aravindhanil7235 3 жыл бұрын
Devs: Chnages combat width to shake up meta units Feedback: releases meta on day of release
@ahmadtarek7763
@ahmadtarek7763 3 жыл бұрын
Wait how did they change the combat width?
@williampaabreeves
@williampaabreeves 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadtarek7763 Different terrain has different max widths, so no one division size fits all anymore. 20/40 meta is dead
@zkave1899
@zkave1899 3 жыл бұрын
@@williampaabreeves how is it dead the most are 80or 80+ (except mountain)
@luansagara
@luansagara 3 жыл бұрын
@@zkave1899 nope Urban 96 Desert/plains 90 Jungle/forest 84 Hills 80 Marsh 78 Mountain 75 15 or 14 seems to be the new standard, depending on if you want frontline art/AA/AT
@zkave1899
@zkave1899 3 жыл бұрын
@@luansagara it will not matter as much they will still do the 20/40 because as i said its overall more than 80+
@Daniel-rh7kh
@Daniel-rh7kh 3 жыл бұрын
I think this new logistics system will wreak as much chaos if not more as the fuel update, people will initially hate it, but eventually adapt
@morte2504
@morte2504 3 жыл бұрын
I still hate fuel, I always play with a mod that gives every nation unlimited fuel.
@va3893
@va3893 3 жыл бұрын
@@morte2504 just buy them smh
@gerhardsmith7892
@gerhardsmith7892 3 жыл бұрын
The fuel system was pretty easy, I don't remember ever having troubles with it, my only complaint about it was that the Axis always won every single game since the allied AI was incapable of getting fuel for some reason This on the other hand, I literally don't understand what's happening, but that is just cause I'm dumb
@thelordofforeheads2839
@thelordofforeheads2839 3 жыл бұрын
Fuel is great though, playing as the Soviets and navally blockading Germany while taking Romania to completely cut off their oil supply is always fun.
@alfalafelstine1536
@alfalafelstine1536 3 жыл бұрын
@@VarenvelDarakus For me HOI4 was always been that way. Which of a dozen different modifiers is crippling ny offensive? Is this enough guns? Completely at a loss. But I like trains. Anything that adds more trains is good.
@antonino6485
@antonino6485 3 жыл бұрын
losing the war because you lack supply and infraestructure actually sounds realist as hell
@NexusGaming857
@NexusGaming857 3 жыл бұрын
... Realism doesn't always equal to a more fun time.
@antonino6485
@antonino6485 3 жыл бұрын
@@NexusGaming857 i know i just thought it was interesting
@gavins9846
@gavins9846 3 жыл бұрын
@@NexusGaming857 it's simple af just turn the HUD on and limit the weight of your armies. Quite fun adapting to new areas
@NexusGaming857
@NexusGaming857 3 жыл бұрын
@@gavins9846 Unfortunately, I like to produce quality divisions. Also, I don't feel like producing at least SIX different infantry division templates to fit the different combat widths.
@l.h.9747
@l.h.9747 3 жыл бұрын
@@NexusGaming857 yeah but its not that important but it is what would be needed for max efficiency and that is great in my opinion because it means small nations can specialise with their territory (because they mostly defend on their territory) and if you attack you need to find a compromise
@emib6599
@emib6599 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see the tactics of overwhelming the super armored enemy tanks with hundreds of very cheap tanks made of scraps
@hana_irl6996
@hana_irl6996 3 жыл бұрын
AI would never build super heavy tanks
@ScamallDorcha
@ScamallDorcha 3 жыл бұрын
Don't attack tanks with tanks.
@cisarovnajosefina4525
@cisarovnajosefina4525 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScamallDorcha exactly kill the inf and drive around the enemy tanks
@1EthanCC
@1EthanCC 3 жыл бұрын
@@cisarovnajosefina4525 Sometimes you have to attack tanks, if they're sitting on Kiev or something you need to push them past the river to safely move your tanks somewhere else.
@XYZ-zn6qz
@XYZ-zn6qz 3 жыл бұрын
@numax just use light tank destroyers. The trusted Hetzer tactic
@pierniczekpiernikowski758
@pierniczekpiernikowski758 3 жыл бұрын
This makes wars more longer and probably more realistic because, you could capitulate USSR as Germany in like 1 or 2 years now you need to spend more time organizing supplies and thoose other things
@haukionkannel
@haukionkannel 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! HOI4 is becoming a real war game now!
@Daniel-rh7kh
@Daniel-rh7kh 3 жыл бұрын
If you maximize everything (collabs and naval invasions), the Soviets could capitulate in mere four months, now it is gonna take at least a year or two if you do the same, a welcomed change
@kaikk5918
@kaikk5918 3 жыл бұрын
Lol look tommys vid and you will sound hella stupid now
@signoguns8501
@signoguns8501 3 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-rh7kh You could wipe out the entire soviet front line in a few months by spamming cas and tanks. In some of my playthroughs the only had 40 or so divisions left on the front line by the end lol. Could just walk deeper into russia until they capitulate. Was one of the most satisfying parts of the game. Looks like that will be impossible now.
@MDMssHypNoTiZe
@MDMssHypNoTiZe 3 жыл бұрын
@@signoguns8501 you still can push ussr with 96 40w infantry divison
@EliteCannonFodder
@EliteCannonFodder 3 жыл бұрын
With the new Supply system, paratroopers might have a use besides being surprise tourists for capitulations. Does dropping paratroopers onto a railway cut the supply connection? If so, dropping some paratroopers onto a few sections of railway before offensives might be an easy way to cut down on losses and force your enemy to de org.
@ahmadtarek7763
@ahmadtarek7763 3 жыл бұрын
That would be very cool if it's true, you could even do that before naval invading to make the the landing easier, which is very similar to real life.
@EliteCannonFodder
@EliteCannonFodder 3 жыл бұрын
Considering rail gage conversion time, it could be useful long term, as the AI would have to reconvert the rails, allowing a large window for offensives, depending on the implementation.
@EliteCannonFodder
@EliteCannonFodder 3 жыл бұрын
Upon watching Yesterday's stream, I see that I am not the first person to suggest such a thing, around the thirty minute mark.
@rev84921
@rev84921 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't played the DLC yet, but one of the Dev Diaries mentioned a Scorched Earth button you can use to destroy railroads in "territory you occupy" for a few CP. Imagining a return of the old Paratrooper Chicken Pox strategy but with supply depots and rail junctions instead of victory points. Do the Tannu Tuva justify trick at the height of the purge and roll over the entire Red Army with 2-width Cav divisions.
@craigstephenson7676
@craigstephenson7676 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what paratroopers did irl
@antonino6485
@antonino6485 3 жыл бұрын
"HANS VE NEED BETTER TRANSMITION!" "MORE ARMOR YOU SAY?"
@talltroll7092
@talltroll7092 3 жыл бұрын
10/10, perfectly historical. Also works for "Ivan"
@akerem4475
@akerem4475 3 жыл бұрын
"NO HANS WE NEED A BETTER TRANSMİTİON!" "BİGGER CANNON YOU SAY?"
@VeganerHippie
@VeganerHippie 3 жыл бұрын
@@akerem4475 "Gottverdammt Hans" "Oh, Schlachtschiff Kanon" "Ja Hans, JA"
@youraverageuser7039
@youraverageuser7039 3 жыл бұрын
Now the Bob Semple will be unstoppable with german engineering
@the_tactician9858
@the_tactician9858 3 жыл бұрын
Heresy! Bob Semple is already unstoppable, German engineering can only slow it down!
@gyuri989898
@gyuri989898 3 жыл бұрын
Oh boi can’t wait to fight in the amazon.
@zignik2213
@zignik2213 3 жыл бұрын
😢
@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329
@fieldmarshalbaltimore1329 3 жыл бұрын
Driving my armored trains through the amazon
@GrigX
@GrigX 3 жыл бұрын
oh god no!! can't even imagine
@metallord999
@metallord999 3 жыл бұрын
First time I looked at the tank viewer in the announcements I thought, How will FeedBackGaming cheese this
@ryanmercer3165
@ryanmercer3165 3 жыл бұрын
The neverending struggle of keeping up with the changes in meta helps us understand how the allies felt falling so far behind in real life doctrine.
@haukionkannel
@haukionkannel 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds and looks fun! Really looking for this. That supply is killing everything, so nice to see it being a thing now!
@mr__music5719
@mr__music5719 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna lay low on multi games for a while and just do some testing with my friend and figure this out.
@ArkliteDC
@ArkliteDC 3 жыл бұрын
I hope they do some balance adjustments with the supply system. I have played a few games and watched some short playthrough videos such as yours and everything has a very common theme. Everyone's construction queue is just building or repairing railroads and sometimes building supply depots and that is it. I had hardly any chance to build factories except for prewar. Only to realize not building up the supply lines for major fronts was a mistake. The idea of reducing the amount of factories isn't a bad one, as it should result in less over all units in the game. However, if the ONLY thing you can build is supply related construction it is going to cause games to be extremely long. This is also going to cause playthroughs starting as minor nations extremely difficult as you pretty much can't build factories during war, unless you are purely on the defensive. Previously, the best way to play minors was to conquer other small nations around you to build up your industry quickly, but if you can't conquer another nation in a timely manner due to supply issues, it makes that method near impossible. The only way you can reliably push is to constantly build up railways as you push, so if your industry is crap, building those railways is going to take forever. It really makes me wonder how much this new supply system was tested. Many nations have insanely reworked focus trees and dozens of new events, some of which were seen in this video. Kind of makes it seems like most of their time went into development and very little was spent actually testing. This is just speculation of course, but the supply system just seems so significantly out of balance to me that I can't think of another reason.
@FLUX.2226
@FLUX.2226 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, a lot of time is indeep spent on the focus trees instead of game mechanics. I'm pretty sure one of the NSB dev diaries mentioned that these trees take a lot of work to get right. Most players want huge and powerful trees with fancy RPG mechanics and believable alt-history, so that's what Pdx focuses on. I feel like they improved the DLC quality with NSB, but it's still not great. And my monkey brain preordered it anyway because "preorder bonus neuron activation". Eh.
@ArkliteDC
@ArkliteDC 3 жыл бұрын
@@FLUX.2226 I havent played all the focus trees, but I did enjoy Estonia's. I think they have a good concept here, it just needs some balancing. This has the potential to be my favorite DLC for HoI4 of they can fix it.
@FLUX.2226
@FLUX.2226 3 жыл бұрын
​@@ArkliteDC It's probably one of the best DLCs, yes. And personally I think the minor nation trees that come with main DLCs are most of the time quite nice (though I haven't played as the Baltics yet) - partially because they are more compact. But Stalin's paranoia game is something that I don't like, it puts too much focus on playing another game within HoI4, much like all of the BftB trees. I've been playing HoI4 since since WtT, so I'm used to focus trees being more straightforward and easier to understand, not having a unique mechanic for each country, and being less powerful overall.
@stassmith8200
@stassmith8200 3 жыл бұрын
Makes it more realistic
@voltairethegoldflame9280
@voltairethegoldflame9280 3 жыл бұрын
They should add industrial companies that give build speed for railway and infrastructure.
@crimsonghost235
@crimsonghost235 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to cry for joy when I saw that doctrines no longer were researched, instead bought. This'll hopefully free up research slots for more exciting things. Now I can finally research all those random naval mechanics 🤣
@efulmer8675
@efulmer8675 3 жыл бұрын
Your research slots instead go to researching artillery and radar because they give tank modules. Although if you really want to go crazy with the tanks, rush the jet engine research as it gives a truly op tank engine module.
@magni5648
@magni5648 2 жыл бұрын
@@efulmer8675 If you had any naval or serious air fighting to do, you'd be researching radar anyway. And well, who doesn't research at least tube arty and either AA or AT? The turbine engine is... well, it sure helps make your tanks go fast. It also DOUBLES their fuel consumption.
@efulmer8675
@efulmer8675 2 жыл бұрын
@@magni5648 True, the fuel consumption is a significant downside, but I've generally found the gains in reliability, armor and breakthrough to generally be worth it.
@WalrusJones185
@WalrusJones185 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that surprises me is how easy it is to fuse several support companies now, as light tanks recon can basically act like recon+at guns.
@craigdoran7873
@craigdoran7873 3 жыл бұрын
Mfw I saw it's 1944 and he hadn't even taken Moscow. I can't wait to be in pain for hours on end.
@alfalafelstine1536
@alfalafelstine1536 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, Hitler wasn't in Moscow in 1944 either.
@ZoeyCrimson
@ZoeyCrimson 3 жыл бұрын
@@alfalafelstine1536 A game being fun > boring amounts of historical accuracy
@ablazewig6808
@ablazewig6808 3 жыл бұрын
Time to Larp and make Ferdinands with the worst reliability possible
@PadaV4
@PadaV4 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder whats the lowest reliability possible. And if that means that the 100% of the tanks explode immediately after deploying.
@w5527
@w5527 3 жыл бұрын
I’m lukewarm on the supply rework. I’ll learn it eventually but it seems WAY more harsh than is reasonable for balancing reasons. I like the basic concept but I’d ask for what you invest to be a better value. With time we will learn though
@doodguytheblank2403
@doodguytheblank2403 3 жыл бұрын
Especially seems bad as many nations start IMMEDIATELY with supply issues.
@SoVega301
@SoVega301 3 жыл бұрын
@@doodguytheblank2403 I think they didn't personalize supplies for each nation
@wheelman1324
@wheelman1324 3 жыл бұрын
No more 7/2 divisions. No more blocking off the capital to destroy enemy supply… I love it!
@andrewlechner6343
@andrewlechner6343 3 жыл бұрын
7-2 divisions have been unmeta since the artillery nerf of 2018. However I am extremely happy to see the capital supply cutoff removed. Happy days indeed.
@rafael_pinto
@rafael_pinto 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, back again to UGA BUGA and 1000 hours of learning
@AGamingPand
@AGamingPand 3 жыл бұрын
This system looks like it desperately needs some balancing.
@FeedbackGaming
@FeedbackGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Its only just begun!
@arthur2014
@arthur2014 3 жыл бұрын
It is, a Spiff would say, perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
@johnathanjarisch7323
@johnathanjarisch7323 3 жыл бұрын
@@FeedbackGaming Dave no, the balance is already dead.
@elpl1293
@elpl1293 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnathanjarisch7323 how do you know it’s only been out for like 4 hours
@priceless3020
@priceless3020 3 жыл бұрын
@@elpl1293 It looked like his production list was literally railways the whole game and civilian factories to repair and build more railways. If thats what you have to do to keep supply then it needs balancing, I know how important supply and railways were in real life but this is just silly. Its a wargame not a railway simulator.
@tannerbanban1
@tannerbanban1 3 жыл бұрын
If you motorize your supply depot it will help with supply issues immensely. Just click the little horse icon when you click on a supply depot or shift click the supply depot.
@yaldabaoth2
@yaldabaoth2 3 жыл бұрын
If Paradox put half as much money into quality control as they do into marketing and sponsoring practically every yt channel I subscribed to, they wouldn't be so bad.
@cabbage2241
@cabbage2241 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you figured out to invade down the railways because that poland invasion was painful to watch. I can't wait to see what you do with the new mechanics though
@MeatCuthbert
@MeatCuthbert 3 жыл бұрын
From playing the soviet civil war a fair amount, im pretty sire supply depots are more important than railroads when it comes to supplying troops. Railroads just dictate how much supply reaches the depots and what route it takes.
@alexandrubucur8075
@alexandrubucur8075 3 жыл бұрын
in a couple of dlc's i'll need a ph.d to play this game, oh god
@stassmith8200
@stassmith8200 3 жыл бұрын
Funny but true
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 3 жыл бұрын
Well, that's what those games are supposed to be tbh.
@kobalto1740
@kobalto1740 3 жыл бұрын
yeah supply its gonna be a nightmare but in reality thats how real war is, 10% combat, 90% supply
@TheCheekyhalfling
@TheCheekyhalfling 2 жыл бұрын
Makes a game very dull though. Supply simulator 2022...
@kindasimpson9704
@kindasimpson9704 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh, I play this meta a lot before the update, two things you are missing here are air supply and mechanised. Mechanised got insane defense stats, they can cover your breakthrough path, it’s cheaper, it takes less supply and they are fast to go along with tank divisions
@jerryrgzz1571
@jerryrgzz1571 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah seems like they want to avoid the spam of tanks in general, and promote mech that wasnt used as much
@1EthanCC
@1EthanCC 3 жыл бұрын
Mech costs almost as much as a medium tank.
@jerryrgzz1571
@jerryrgzz1571 3 жыл бұрын
@@1EthanCC no the prod cost of the first mech is 1.5 and for just the chassis of the early medium is 7.2 what are you talking about
@boxcarz
@boxcarz 3 жыл бұрын
@@jerryrgzz1571 Go look at the battalion equipment numbers.
@Copperhell144
@Copperhell144 3 жыл бұрын
@@jerryrgzz1571 Those are production costs for only a single stock of equipment, while battalions take multiple stocks to create, and how much of each equipment is used depends on the battalion in question. For a dumb example, if one mech battalion needs 10 mechanized, while one medium tank battalion only needs 2 tanks, the total prod cost of one mech battalion would be 15 against one medium tank battalion 14.4
@elpresidente8127
@elpresidente8127 3 жыл бұрын
Alone we waited for this dlc. Alone we prepare to the new meta. But an old enemy has returned to it backstabbing ways Our lack of money and pricey DLC's resist the workers revolution. WE stand alone. The greedy company is plunging its hands deep into our exposed pockets The Paradox games are unconqourable If we must win this next DLC we shall do that too.
@jean-sebastienlefebvre5497
@jean-sebastienlefebvre5497 3 жыл бұрын
I just think someone will make a mod that will be ten times better than this thing. Also, where is that Katyusha song we were supposed to get with pre-order?
@stassmith8200
@stassmith8200 3 жыл бұрын
@@jean-sebastienlefebvre5497 same I preordered and dont have it.
@runkid123
@runkid123 3 жыл бұрын
@@jean-sebastienlefebvre5497 i think you are supposed to claim it in paradox's webiste??
@thelordofforeheads2839
@thelordofforeheads2839 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to make a light tank out of the highest equipment, and max out engine to see them zooming around Europe at 60km/h
@blubbber
@blubbber 3 жыл бұрын
can we please talk about the icons in the production screen for the tanks ? your advanced tank 2 has the picture that resembles a Jagdpanther (Sd.Kfz. 173) which is not a tank but a tank destroyer... the picture for your first tank variant was that of a Wirbelwind (Sd.Kfz. 161/4) , an anti-air tank.
@ellingsindre2485
@ellingsindre2485 3 жыл бұрын
The image changes depending on what modifications you have on your tank, you can also select what image you want.
@frankunderbush
@frankunderbush 3 жыл бұрын
As a casual player, my only complaint with the new supply system is that it seems a bit overly punishing. With so many little things that can affect supply, if they just tune back each debuff a tiny bit I think the game would get back to a more balanced state (ie. Most offensive tactics are more or less equally viable)
@FeedbackGaming
@FeedbackGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@madrooky1398
@madrooky1398 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah like "cmon i know my fuel tank is empty but cant you not just reduce my speed a little?" hihi
@154Kilroy
@154Kilroy 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what drove them to replace the overrun text? That's one of the most satisfying things in the game. The helmet just doesn't do it for me. Well, if they don't patch it back in, I'm fairly certain modders will save the day.
@IceMaverick13
@IceMaverick13 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the low-contrast helmet icon doesn't catch the eye in nearly the same fashion as the bright red OVERRUN!
@boxcarz
@boxcarz 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't even notice that until it was specifically pointed out.
@flAMe9610
@flAMe9610 3 жыл бұрын
@@IceMaverick13Ironically the new railway guns still have the red overrun when you overrun them.
@IOADESTOYER
@IOADESTOYER 3 жыл бұрын
am i the only one saw the t2 med tank production went up to 24? pre patch heavy t2 were 28 production.... and med t2 were 14. gonna be harder to produce tanks? good ones at least.
@thezeroalchemist277
@thezeroalchemist277 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, it kinda makes sense that good tanks are much costlier and therefore you have to take it into account when optimizing your designs. It's better if simply making "the perfect tank" doesn't work in all situations... after all, it wasn't the best tanks that won the real war, but the good enough, incredibly cheap ones.
@IOADESTOYER
@IOADESTOYER 3 жыл бұрын
@@thezeroalchemist277 thats why i said at least good ones, same time good t2 med tanks are closer to t2 heavy tanks production in the older version... which again means less tanks in game... since im guessing heavies cost sky rocket also
@MrNicoJac
@MrNicoJac 3 жыл бұрын
@@IOADESTOYER Omg just imagine the cost of the super heavy tanks XD
@gromsword6984
@gromsword6984 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrNicoJac They are about 30% cheaper btw. Unless you want a useless chunk of steel.
@paradoxinteractive
@paradoxinteractive 3 жыл бұрын
Viva la revolution
@glitchman5876
@glitchman5876 3 жыл бұрын
Fix supply lol
@minefoxc4015
@minefoxc4015 3 жыл бұрын
The troops in Moldova had that one supply depot in the center that was going along the river to probably Sevastopol, since now apparently supply depots on rivers can give and receive supply along them
@jaysvideos9107
@jaysvideos9107 3 жыл бұрын
Construction before no step back : Mils, Civs, Air After no step back : *RAILROADS*
@Valigorr
@Valigorr 3 жыл бұрын
The trailer for this DLC looked amazing personally I think it’s going to be a great one to play
@AB34R
@AB34R 3 жыл бұрын
10/10 with the music. Perfect timing and implementation of another great series. Now to make a mod to get the RA2 and YR sound tracks in HOI....
@RedArmyShogun
@RedArmyShogun 3 жыл бұрын
There is a mod that does this in the workshop.
@doodguytheblank2403
@doodguytheblank2403 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a mod which contains all the C&C soundtracks and another that has music from Mental Omega
@aarushjaiswal5990
@aarushjaiswal5990 3 жыл бұрын
Im glad u are not just winging it and did your work for the meta because this is super confusing and seeing others just winging it is well idk why stressful for me to watch anyways are you going to try ussr first or poland or the other baltic nations?
@Marcoz588
@Marcoz588 3 жыл бұрын
Feedback yells “SNAKE INTO BREAST!” Neighbours thinking “oh my, lucky boy!” 😅
@rev84921
@rev84921 3 жыл бұрын
My concern here is that with the amount of trouble even experienced players seem to be having with the new system, how badly is the AI going to suffer once we get the system down and the AI can't? That seems to be a persistent problem with Paradox games, they keep adding more and more layers of complexity that the AI just can't utilize effectively, making them more and more trivial to defeat for players who can use the systems to their full advantage.
@EliteJax4180
@EliteJax4180 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, the AI I fought against as Estonia were pretty powerful and had good supply for the most part. The only AI I know that had problems was Finland, my ally, but I quickly figured out that you can build railroads in your allies territory.
@Itsovergiveup
@Itsovergiveup 3 жыл бұрын
I think the AI improved a lot in the patch.
@shanepower9201
@shanepower9201 3 жыл бұрын
I played 3 games yesterday and every time the axis stomped uk in Africa because uk was always out of supply, needs some adjustment in Africa imo
@EliteJax4180
@EliteJax4180 3 жыл бұрын
@@shanepower9201 True.
@alexhirlam7750
@alexhirlam7750 3 жыл бұрын
Tip to instantly solve supply on a push: build like 40 transport planes -> right click where all your tanks are -> solves supply instantly. I used it yesterday and honestly, I think that'll be the new meta. You don't even need to build many it's hilarious,
@EshBBX
@EshBBX 2 жыл бұрын
8:32-8:37 makes me cry to think about AI Soviets using Scorched Earth effectively, making it take 20 years to capitulate them moving tile for tile.
@oscargurdian9389
@oscargurdian9389 3 жыл бұрын
big encirclements are literally borderline impossible now. move 2 tiles forwards and all of a sudden, your tanks are snails
@bosanski_Cevap
@bosanski_Cevap 3 жыл бұрын
The irl scenario
@jeff-sp1fy
@jeff-sp1fy 3 жыл бұрын
Mass assault to reduce supply ftw
@coolguywithahat0127
@coolguywithahat0127 3 жыл бұрын
How effective would following the railroads be for supply? I'm not sure, but I feel like if you orientated your assaults' to follow the railroad networks and or rivers, you'd have an easier time with supply, and then all the areas void of railroads would end up being encircled. This is just a thought, I'm downloading the DLC right now and I'm going to test it out. It seems like it would make sense, but knowing me and my ideas it probably won't help anything lol
@ahmadtarek7763
@ahmadtarek7763 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please share your results? Your question has intrigued me as well.
@TurbulentEitri
@TurbulentEitri 3 жыл бұрын
This is generally the case based on the gameplay I've had since the update. The enemy supply hubs are your primary targets now, and following the rails is a sure way to reach them while maintaining better supply. It's also good for when you're using train artillery as their 10% debuff is pretty nice to have with green air.
@weehoo2
@weehoo2 3 жыл бұрын
I think the tank designer’s icons that it gives your tanks is bugged. Even when you do auto design and it auto names it as “Panther” it’ll show a hetzer. Also the division icons? It seems like some of them are gone? I can’t seem to get one that uses the Sturmtiger or Maus one
@enginduygu6028
@enginduygu6028 3 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I played a Germany game, the railways just prevents you from building anything, so I started a new game and went full fighters and cas added transports after fall of france, barbarossa started at 42 with 120 divisions of 8 infantry and 1 artillery with logistics and other basic support, capitulated the russians in late 43 thanks to supply planes, started producing naval bombers and invaded britain in 44, nuked New york in 45
@juicyjosh3581
@juicyjosh3581 3 жыл бұрын
Player base: Could we get a new Soviet tree? Monkey paw curls. Paradox: Yes, but now the entire game is like playing in South America
@howitzer4041
@howitzer4041 3 жыл бұрын
What will they do when they eventually get to italy 😳
@juicyjosh3581
@juicyjosh3581 3 жыл бұрын
@@howitzer4041 forts in the mountains get a +150% defense bonus to accurately simulate fighting up the peninsula
@howitzer4041
@howitzer4041 3 жыл бұрын
@@juicyjosh3581 *builds 1 level 10 fort line in the italian mountains and it is now physically inpossible for the allies to push through
@sharadowasdr
@sharadowasdr 3 жыл бұрын
I played an India game last night, this new supply system is hell for less industrialized countries and colonies ! Even then, I managed to sweep the floor with the Italians and Germans in Africa. Even had an Indian tank commander pull off operation compass with light tanks, did not even know of army spirits and did not bother with tank designer (my industry is too weak to deal with this :D ) . Libya came under a British puppet government who had shit supply and I coudln't do anything about it so my tanks became useless and Libya became a see saw battle like RL :(
@EliteJax4180
@EliteJax4180 3 жыл бұрын
If you are allied to Libya, you can build supply hubs and railroads through their territory.
@sharadowasdr
@sharadowasdr 3 жыл бұрын
@@EliteJax4180 But they're not my puppet. You can build in ally's territories now ??
@EliteJax4180
@EliteJax4180 3 жыл бұрын
@@sharadowasdr Only infrastructure, railroads, and supply hubs.
@dimazaharov8565
@dimazaharov8565 3 жыл бұрын
The main reason why you struggled with supplies is because all of your army was getting their supplies by horses. You can change that in the supplies hubs.
@boxcarz
@boxcarz 3 жыл бұрын
^^^^^
@lukematney7062
@lukematney7062 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that you can motorize your supply hubs so that some of the frontline logistics issues get mitigated somewhat. By default, all supply hubs use horseback. It can save you a headache and a bajillion queues of railways.
@apictureoftomcruise9354
@apictureoftomcruise9354 3 жыл бұрын
I respect this video a lot. You are the only content creator I know of right now that is not shying away from tanks.
@lavissebruh3144
@lavissebruh3144 3 жыл бұрын
I can already feel how cursed this video is after seeing Ostwind as a icon for a tank focused on protection
@CyberScapeRides
@CyberScapeRides 3 жыл бұрын
I perked up, as soon as I heard to music. Glad to see someone who played that game.
@FalkyRocket2222
@FalkyRocket2222 3 жыл бұрын
as a hoi4 player that also plays tf2 i have to be honest and admit that i would love a "hat dlc" from 0:50
@Yrojrund
@Yrojrund 3 жыл бұрын
How to fix supply for nearly all fronts - Double shift click supply nodes, what is does is increase the supply range of the nodes by assigning more trucks (Literally only 50, barely a difference). This works until you get to the Soviets, it’s a pretty straightforward push for each supply node until you get past Moscow in which good luck because there’s FUCKING NOTHING. Good dlc!!
@EliteJax4180
@EliteJax4180 3 жыл бұрын
Can we build it? (Hopefully you got the reference.)
@boxcarz
@boxcarz 3 жыл бұрын
@@EliteJax4180 No, we, can't! ...Cause the build speed in siberia is SSSSSSNAAAAAAAIIIL-
@Yrojrund
@Yrojrund 3 жыл бұрын
@@EliteJax4180 NO BECAUSE IT TSKES FUCKIJG FORCEVEVGVDRR
@EliteJax4180
@EliteJax4180 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@tescomealdeal9901
@tescomealdeal9901 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve played this game for just over 800 hours and I can confidently say that this will be like starting over again, they basically just made a new damn game
@Killroy_Is_Here
@Killroy_Is_Here 3 жыл бұрын
So the reason the encircled units didnt take attrition is because of supply depots which give supply to nearby units until the depot runs out
@karlthorsten9118
@karlthorsten9118 2 жыл бұрын
"THE SNAKE INTO BREST!!!" Well, that made my mind go VERY FUN!
@jc5512
@jc5512 3 жыл бұрын
12:46 lol that visual model is not a panther chassis. Panzer 4. The meaty boi that follows is a jagdpanther, which IS based on a panther chassis but has a casemate instead of a turret. There's some weird shit going on here.
@hedgeearthridge6807
@hedgeearthridge6807 3 жыл бұрын
For against AI, if you want to be a Mr. Moneybags, build medium tanks with Howitzers and go nuts with the armor and engine until the AI can't pierce it and it goes over 9 kmh. A 40-width division that's half these and half Mech/Motor is over 500 Soft Attack and over 1000 breakthrough. They have almost no Hard Attack, but you can just encircle the AI armor if you need to. Also since they are so insanely expensive, try to keep the reliability high. But these things are nearly unstoppable once you have them. I gave them the hilariously butchered German name "Getroffenpanzer"
@seno5530
@seno5530 3 жыл бұрын
Getroffen is passive, when the subject itself is „hit“
@chandlergloyd4230
@chandlergloyd4230 3 жыл бұрын
its very comforting that the weird looking design he came up in the first 15 seconds looked exactly the same as my first tank design in the dlc.
@leonardlopez4106
@leonardlopez4106 3 жыл бұрын
this is nice, but when playing i've noticed for the supply you need to set motorization priority for armies and army groups. Not sure if it really helps supply but it lowers the supply debuffs so it kinda works
@Starsky3022
@Starsky3022 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like they kinda made tanks useless with the new system. Once you pushed into a province you get immediately stuck down because there's no supply for your tanks anymore
@Khomann
@Khomann 3 жыл бұрын
Now you know how the real german army felt lol
@Le-eu4bf
@Le-eu4bf 3 жыл бұрын
I think me might have to use quality not quantity tanks
@1EthanCC
@1EthanCC 3 жыл бұрын
People will adapt by making more trucks to assign to those supply nodes.
@Ronald98
@Ronald98 3 жыл бұрын
@@Khomann once the german tanks made a breakthrough they would pour in at insane speed... no huge problems with supplies.. examples : the breakthrough in the benlux and dunkirk.. also the huge encirclements in the eastern front at minsk and kiev
@eoozy2617
@eoozy2617 3 жыл бұрын
yeah u need to have patience and build supply hubs and upgrade railways. makes the game far more interesting because ur tanks arent super op anymore
@mrfisher1072
@mrfisher1072 3 жыл бұрын
All and all looks pretty good the little tank image though is odd and doesn't really line up with what components have been used.
@ZZ-zu7ht
@ZZ-zu7ht 3 жыл бұрын
You can supply ur troops if you have air superiority with transport planes.
@BaronVonAnime
@BaronVonAnime 2 жыл бұрын
That Red Alert 2 soundtrack, just perfect :)
@wolfi6467
@wolfi6467 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you convert the starter tank divisions to infantry only to convert infantry back to tanks later? Seems inefficient.
@talltroll7092
@talltroll7092 3 жыл бұрын
Gets manpower in the field to enable focuses. You can restore their experience later via training, which will consume early game equipment, in return for army and commander XP. It's a good deal for many nations, but ESPECIALLY Germany, who have some very powerful early focuses that rely on deployed manpower
@wolfi6467
@wolfi6467 3 жыл бұрын
@@talltroll7092 Ah, didn't think of manpower requirements, that's a good point
@davidodonovan1699
@davidodonovan1699 3 жыл бұрын
5:15 - 5:35 Cast armour is way easier to build that riveted armour in reality, because it's easier to make a possibly reusable cast inner mold, outer cast mold. Then make the sand or clay inner and outer casts, Wait for them to harden and then remove the possibly reusable inner and outer cast molds. Put the inner and outer molds together it they aren't built into each other already. Pour in the molten steel. Wait for it it cool, before breaking off the inner and outer sand or clay or whatever other cast material is used. Done. That's a lot easier then making a riveting frame, riveted plates, and praying that the riveted frame holes, line up with the riveted plate holes, with 1930's and 1940's...actually scratch that, just make the rivet holes way bigger then the rivets to make room for error. Still probably way harder to make a new rivet skeleton frame for each tank then to just make an inner and outer cast mold that might be reusable, depending of the design. For the record, I studied both of these manufacturing methods, but didn't do either of them in practice. Also, in real life, the Germans didn't seem to do either during WW2. They welded everything that I have looked up. Yes, they had some interwar stuff that was riveted, but I think these where just a handful or a few dozen things not worth mentioning.
@Zlatirano
@Zlatirano 3 жыл бұрын
Everything was broken in the new update, now they added the best stuff to the paid side (they added all best stuff to the dlc so we dont get it for free) like the Railway gun or tank designer.
@danielharshman796
@danielharshman796 3 жыл бұрын
paradox makes the best game shitty with the good features on the dlcs. greedy bastards
@Илья-п5з9н
@Илья-п5з9н 3 жыл бұрын
It's a pity that AI still does not know how to retreat. But encircling the ENTIRE army of the Soviet Union is still fun. He also almost always keeps all the troops on the border. Thanks to paradox for changing the gameplay again :)
@gr_egg
@gr_egg 3 жыл бұрын
people unironically saying its too much micro.. isn't that the point of the game? or is tabbing out and watching yt the optimal hoi4 player experience
@madensmith7014
@madensmith7014 3 жыл бұрын
Clicking a button then seeing the number of casualties tick up is the best part of the game.
@gr_egg
@gr_egg 3 жыл бұрын
@@madensmith7014 clearly you don't own an air fryer
@cervod2529
@cervod2529 2 жыл бұрын
if you have pretty reliable air superiority I find transport planes on supply mode make pushing hard 1000x easier
@The-Gadget-tag
@The-Gadget-tag 3 жыл бұрын
16:20 Love the edit!
@frederf3227
@frederf3227 3 жыл бұрын
"His helmet fell off, do you know what that means?" Robert Downey Jr.'s character didn't die in the beach scene and is here to save Benedict Cumberbatch from the SS platoon in the dramatic conclusion to the third act?!
@schmiddy8433
@schmiddy8433 3 жыл бұрын
While working on a tank designer rebalance / expansion mod i found a joke in the game file about riveted armor "#soft_attack = 1 # that's when rivets shoot back because they got dislodged by the shock. That was in fact the first reactive armor."
@bluestorm749
@bluestorm749 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so confused… it feels like it was yesterday when army exp was gained through the disbanding all but one division trick…
@lorgpanther8920
@lorgpanther8920 3 жыл бұрын
It seems so so much more complex now with infrastructure and railroads
@MMircea
@MMircea 3 жыл бұрын
One DLC is a tragedy. A million DLCs is a statistic :(
@timhand3380
@timhand3380 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen anybody make a video on how to get Modern tank chassis by 42. Just use both tank bonuses on advanced light then modern, it's that easy.
@dunning-kruger551
@dunning-kruger551 2 жыл бұрын
16 minutes into the video he figures out the motorised supply button! You can set the logistics on your Field Marshals as well.
@alexanderstoyanov7464
@alexanderstoyanov7464 3 жыл бұрын
The Grinder soundtrack from RA2 at the end was most suitable, this was one hell of a grind. I still have mixed feelings about the logistics change, it might have made the game too slow and grindy
@callumbird2749
@callumbird2749 3 жыл бұрын
In real life, the diesel in Germany’s tanks froze in the Russian winter. Would have been cool if that was a drawback for Diesel engines.
@Wick9876
@Wick9876 3 жыл бұрын
The Russian tanks (at least the T-34) were diesel while all of the German tanks used petrol. So probably not a good idea.
@michaireneuszjakubowski5289
@michaireneuszjakubowski5289 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, they didn't - Germans used gas in every single one of their tanks. Which is curious in itself, considering they were the only force to ever field diesel AIRPLANES, but yet, here we are. Russians, on the other hand, used diesel extensively in tanks.
@SMGJohn
@SMGJohn 3 жыл бұрын
In reality, Germany mostly only had Diesel engines in captured enemy tanks, petrol is quite resilient against freezing, however USSR used Diesel mostly, add anti-freeze in their fuel, we use it in Norway even today prevent Diesel from freezing.
@Hammer4iv
@Hammer4iv 3 жыл бұрын
My God this expansion looks like it breaks the game if it takes even Dave until 1941 to invade France, but looks so much fun too.
@ahmadtarek7763
@ahmadtarek7763 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine it would make paratroopers more valuable now, as others have suggested that dropping them behind enemy Frontlines on rail roads could starve the enemy and make offensives easier. Same could be probably done to assist naval landings.
@Le-eu4bf
@Le-eu4bf 3 жыл бұрын
I heard we are supposed to like advance following railway lines
@VonPlanter
@VonPlanter 3 жыл бұрын
*THOMAS AND FRIENS IS HERE!!*
@PresidentHMV
@PresidentHMV 3 жыл бұрын
The supply map mode crashes my game immediately after clicking it. Anyone knows how to fix it?
@ronswearingen552
@ronswearingen552 3 жыл бұрын
Probably because you have old mods. You would need to leave them off or go back to a previous update.
@PresidentHMV
@PresidentHMV 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronswearingen552 makes sense. Only mod I had enabled was clean borders, probably is incompatible with the new update
@CharliMorganMusic
@CharliMorganMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Armored divisions are so incredibly strong now. Kinda sucks that this system wasn't extended to mechanized transports, though. The fastest mech units can move like 16 speed, but tanks can break 30 speed. Kinda dumb.
@sh4d0wvr42
@sh4d0wvr42 3 жыл бұрын
I spent over 6k hours in this game. It seems with each update paradox makes something un needingly complex and then ignores italy completely.
@GambinoTheGoat
@GambinoTheGoat 3 жыл бұрын
dave’s encirclement: 1MILLION HATS
@gromsword6984
@gromsword6984 3 жыл бұрын
But why does my tanks only have 30-40 breakthrough instead of 66 for double the cost?! I don´t know how the new mechanics justefy this change. I get the feeling that tanks just got nerfed hard.
@dimitarbelchev3062
@dimitarbelchev3062 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you start with civs? MIFO bills increase the construction speed of mills by a lot.
@EliteJax4180
@EliteJax4180 3 жыл бұрын
You need civs to repair those factories when the Americans inevitably join the war, turning the industrial heartland of Germany from absolutely safe to, "Oh god, my mils! My supply! They are melting!"
@dimitarbelchev3062
@dimitarbelchev3062 3 жыл бұрын
@@EliteJax4180 Does that matter for SP? I am sure that when I was learning the game I ended up in situations where I needed more civs, but now I can do all I want to do by 1942.
@EliteJax4180
@EliteJax4180 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimitarbelchev3062 Well, that is because of war economy. I like building civs early on to not only repair everything, but to build more factories throughout the game. However, I will mention that MEFO Bills also uses up to 20% of your civs on payment, and that you need civs to trade for oil with the middle east.
@MrRobotRob
@MrRobotRob 2 жыл бұрын
Had to like with your final audio choice haha such memories
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