THIS is why Photography Drone people hate FPV - KEN HERON

My friend Kelly HATES flying FPV and I don't get it.
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[@snifflesfpv7321]

Tip 1: get a simulator Tip2 : don’t let go of you sticks on loops and flips Tip3: lower your rates or put in like 10 hours learning your rates

[@sunshynff]

Velocidrone is a simulator, he talks about putting a lot of time on it in the beginning of the video.

[@2x.prod_412]

thank youuuuu exactly he dont know what he doing ong

[@mathieuf.2788]

My 2 cents as a newer pilot: lower the camera angle (it will decrease your speed and you’ll see the ground/horizon better, as well as maintain altitude better), keep moving forward (you can maintain altitude better, see hazards, controls are easier, won’t drift into obstacles). Have fun!!!

[@willsintheair]

Mathieu F. This is the best tip. Almost flat still feels super fast for a new pilot. Gradually bump it up as you get more confident.

[@mathieuf.2788]

Shinobi FPV glad it helped

[@zachmachina]

When you use auto level (angle) mode to help someone new fly, you should lower the camera angle. He was basically just seeing the sky (assuming the fpv camera has the same tilt as your action camera) because the camera angle was too steep. In order to point the camera down, he would've had to have had his pitch held down all the way forward, which is not something a beginner is gonna do or want to do. He would've done better with less angle. You seem to be getting along just fine. Lots of learning and you're already in velocidrone. Just takes time in the sim. You'll get it!

[@abdiasthera]

Zach Machina yeah and definitely not what you wanna do with a cinewhoop. He hasn't crashed though so that's good 😊

[@colinhabursky9037]

Hi, when your learning to fly slowly you should probably put the fpv camera pitch down.

[@Krusty-]

i was about to suggest that.

[@Swole_Gecko]

I think it is down when they show the drone close up but we are seeing out of the gopro that is tilted way up

[@skyfoxfpvulpine]

Yeah, I have to agree with rj h on that one.

[@DanRichmondFPV]

@@Swole_Gecko yes looks like the gopro angle is much higher than the fpv cam angle

[@droneracer]

I think the FPV cam should be tilted up a bit more, so that the quad has a bit more forward momentum, which makes it easier to keep spacial awareness, also the GoPro camera angle should be lowered to match the FPV.

[@F34rwaffles]

also, getting some smaller batteries would help. 6s is really a lot of stinkin power

[@elsterfpv4904]

depends on the motors. 6s is not necessarily faster than 4s.

[@F34rwaffles]

@@elsterfpv4904 that's true, of course, however he comes from DJI land..

[@F34rwaffles]

@@elsterfpv4904 even a 4s on 1900kv motors, i imagine, as i have not tried it, would be fiestier than what we are comparing here

[@F34rwaffles]

DJI quads

[@rambozo_fpv176]

Expo on throttle.

[@nara4420]

It is hard for a beginner, and this thing is not set up right for the rookie. But after some simulator-hours and some Bardwell-videos you'll know how to set it up for you and you'll be able to fly it in acro/air-mode. Thats where the fun begins cause you'll feel the freedom.

[@Herbflyinghigh]

Now I don't feel as bad as a beginner, I flew mine high as well, but I find that the smaller ones are easier to learn on. Cool video guys 👍🏾😎👍🏾

[@skree_fpv436]

I can tell you two things not to do that really held me back when I first started. Do NOT fly in self stabilized mode ever and don't be afraid to crash. I downloaded Liftoff one night,practiced flying acro and the next day I had my first successful acro flight. After switching to acro and realizing crashing is part of flying,FPV became 100% more fun. Good luck with your journey into FPV Ken!

[@ericzhu2953]

How are you losing signal so easily with crossfire?

[@SYN420]

Horizon can make you crash if your not careful, and Acro is harder to fly, but is so much better. I learned Acro flying liftoff and velocidrone.

[@fpvdave]

Glad to see you're having so much fun Ken. And you're getting others into it as well. Keep em coming.

[@lakeliving2013]

I rub a little bacon on the top of my drone. My hounds take me right to it. A little old-school tracking in a new age. LOL

[@TokeyFPV]

I think the reason your getting telemetry warnings is because your running a QX7 without the crossfire mod...this can temporarily be resolved without much consequence by doing the following...In the Taranis, long press the Menu button, then press page till you get to the “Hardware” page. On the Hardware page, there will be an option for “Max bauds”. Change the Baudrate from 40000 to 115200. This will slow down the communication between the Taranis and the module, but it’ll fix the issue.

[@platty9237]

Tokey FPV isn’t that a crossfire antenna attached below?

[@feelmyola]

This is exactly his issue, as soon as his radio started calling low signal before he even took off I knew that was the issue.

[@housinit]

"It is a little disconcerting, isn't it?" Hahahahaha......those were the very first words I said when I first flew a 5 inch quad! And its what I say to people when they ask what it's like to fly a 5 inch quad the first time. It most definitely can be disconcerting, just the sounds of the props are disconcerting! Great video though Ken, you're pretty damn hilarious! 🤣🤣🤣

[@tykinsey4338]

This reminds of myself the week before Christmas lol. I wasn't brave enough to have people watch though until I got a handle on it a lily. Great Video!!!

[@thebeast976]

What degree do u have your fpv cam set to it seems like u need to tilt down quite a few degress

[@Klaus_2323]

This was exciting/terrifying :D Looking forward to more of your adventures!

[@JHB141]

FPV is a steep learning curve, dont sweat the growing pains. When I first got into the hobby, I didnt even think my reflexes were good enough to do it. Now, I think I am mediocre, but let me put a second set of goggles on a friend, they say it looks like the videos on youtube!

[@alexphilistine2252]

Ken went to look in your long list of gear for info on the fpv drone and didn't see anything. Anyone have some insight where to start

[@joeys5429]

Hey Ken do you know how much difference the lume cube say to a generic brand Is performance wise ?

[@KenHeron]

Lume Cube uses a really good battery. That's why they cost a bit more. Don't skimp!!

[@DanRichmondFPV]

In North Carolina here.. been flying about a year and still get stressed flying the 3 inch... whoops are fun all the time because no real danger.. my tip: put a 50% throttle limit on a switch so you can choose to have twice the resolution and half the power.. or 3 way switch 50% 70% full.. helps me alot

[@loveyourgear]

Hi Ken, Loving your recent FPV vids! Your Phantom vids were very inspirational when I started using my Photography drone, and now that I’m a newbie FPV-er, your pace of progress is very relatable :)

[@JackSparkyFrahn]

Kelly's response when it took off was priceless!! That fpv drone is a beast.

[@DoomerONE]

Great job getting Kelly to fetch your drone........well done. Great work Kelly you did a great job on your first time doing FPV.

[@DocmurdocFPV]

JAS Aerial Jeff when is it gonna be your turn?

[@EdwinvandenAkker]

3:10 That's so cool! You have one of those carts too! I am one of the first cameramen in The Netherlands who got a cart like that. Call me lazy... And now I see almost every facility house in Holland having a bunch of these things. On my cart I added a v-clock quick-release plate, to secure my big-ass camera to it. Works like a charm!

[@williamevans6043]

That was great you guys!! I'm going to try my hand at that soon!

[@grumpyvlogger]

Another great and entertaining video. You and Kelly remind me of Brent Douglas and Phil Stone, the creators of Roy D Mercer on KMOD-FM. Again thanks for all you do in the Drone Community and keeping us entertained.

[@shanewatters9251]

Setting a throttle limit to 90-95% can help smooth out the throttle and make it a bit less touchy. Also you can run 4s which will tame the quad a bit.

[@frozenbeverage]

Love these FPV videos Ken but I have to say that you and Kelly make a great team onscreen, looks like great fun! Thanks for the videos ☺️

[@emp29]

Happy to see you folks having fun. I agree this FPV thing is stressful, I don't know why I keep on doing it. :)

[@JS-wz3km]

Is there a benefit to the power-off descent being upside down? Or is it just a side effect of the battery position? I assume the weight being above the props moves the CG toward a neutral stability position to make it more agile, yes/no?

[@StormadoMan]

Takes a good while to master a Miniquad...I kinda miss it, I quit after 6 years due to the f**k awful regulation changes here in the UK.

[@hartrockets]

I found buying a load of small training cones and setting up a rough course and flying around them helped a lot with flying drones via FPV. The cones help you judge height and distance.

[@colbiecallister2307]

Haha awesome just keep doing what you’re doing, pick a simple line and fly it until you get good/bored then expand it or find a new one. it’s been working for me at least 🤷‍♂️ eventually you will get more comfortable and try new things!

[@filiped7298]

"Mouth to prop!" ahah Kelly is always very funny.

[@bendyaerial5940]

Filipe D joke was gay

[@madsinner1737]

This is hilarious because this was literally me from switching to a Parrot to Acro lol I was absolutely dumbfounded.

[@idrone5218]

If you ever come back to Houston, I would love to meet and fly with ya either FPV or DJI style. Love your channel Ken!

[@FloridaWildlife]

I need those thumbgrips! Got a link? Love all your vids and the LIVE weekly shows!

[@shogunemperor]

Awesome flight guys!! Keep at it!!

[@josh413localz]

Very fun to watch! Glad to see you are getting into FPV. I recommend lowering your fpv camera and go pro to an angle of 10°-20°. If you are struggling with throttle control, I recommend going into betaflight and scale your throttle to 75% this will scale the entire throttle band and give you more control

[@brandonrein]

I haven't tried fpv yet, but it seems awesome! Great video as always!

[@bren42069]

As for the rxloss, are you running crossfire? You should really set up rssi, that definitely seems like a loose or broken rx antenna

[@dizzydeanfpv45]

Hey Ken I want to thank you for your channel it's helped me a lot through my recovery 🙏 ❤ your willing to take risks and enjoy what your doing I've only been flying fpv for a year or so it's amazing 👏 cheers ken

[@KenHeron]

Thanks so much! Hope you're feeling better. Happy flying!

[@jeremiahmelson8530]

I want to build a drone for a video. Can you guys comment on good sites? Is there one where you can buy it all in one location? I’m a noob lol

[@capnye6580]

Sir your video reminds me of my very first FPV experience which happened in year 2009 lol. Miss the good old days

[@imothy]

practice acro mode with a tiny whoop, and in the simulator

[@abdiasthera]

I practiced a lot in the simulator but first acro mode in real was a disaster, smashed a brand new go pro 8. For acro I would recommend line of sight first at low altitudes just to reduce damages 🤔

[@malo6748]

@@abdiasthera may i ask why it was a disaster? I am flying in sim for around 3 months now daily and in 1 month i have all parts for my first mini quad build, and i think because of the sim it will be fairly easy..?

[@mr.despar905]

@@malo6748 Yesterday I flew the first time with my drone. I've been practicing on the sim for about 4-5 months and the only thing that was different in real life is that the drone falls much faster because on the sim the gravity is very low so you almost "float" around but other than that it was just like the sim. Just be a little carefull at the beginning. And don't crash cuz u won't be able to push a button to restart!

[@malo6748]

@@mr.despar905 i agree, quad falls slightly faster, but IMO the quad is easier to handle in real life than a Sim drone. It feels way more locked in. Had my first flight 1 week ago banggood shipped my parts pretty fast so i had them earlier then i expected ;) Safe flying bro !

[@mr.despar905]

Ma Lo yeah I mean the speed at which the drone falls depends on which sim you use. And regarding feeling more locked in: The sim is almost too perfect( the way the drone handles). In real life the drone‘s slightly faster so a bit more difficult to fly at first. But once u get the hang of it its fun

[@stevieg6616]

It’s time to double switch arm quad. Also you can find drone using receiver in goggles if bat in copter is still plugged in

[@diedie111590]

How much does a setup like this put you back?

[@pelletubbies]

Turtle mode an AUX channel for when you're flipped over! Keep at the FPV stuff, it's hard but rewarding!

[@sunshynff]

That quad is a little big for turtle mode.

[@My_Alchemical_Romance]

In grass…?

[@steveo726]

The words blind leading the blind came to mine lol

[@juha-matti]

Thanks for the fun video! It's hell of a lot cheaper crashing those first 100 flights on a cheap whoop. And when the whoop is comfortable at 100% just progress to bigger machines. I found it quite easy and enjoyable to progress from a cheap Eachine E013 to BetaFPV 65S and 65X to GepRC 3" (RTF) and to Armattan 5" (self built) incrementally. I definitely would've stressed myself to death jumping straight to 5" power.

[@DocmurdocFPV]

Ken that was awesome for Kelly to get his FPV wings dampened a bit. And by the way you ARE an FPV pilot. We all started exactly right we’re you are. Only difference is stick time. By the end of this summer you will be zinging around like a mad bumble bee with a huge smile on your face.

[@rotorwashuav]

Ken: "You're not gonna crash into yourself!" Kelly: "I could, oh I would". lol Time to Whoop it up Ken!

[@KenHeron]

Totally agree!!

[@k2OS]

. and then there's Rotor Riot, who fly both for the adrenalin and the great imagery :) (look up their youtube channel - loads of great tutorials too)

[@ChrisM-yr5tt]

Ken nice video. Been flying phantom 3s for many years. FPV is what keeps me alive now. Whole different element controlling all aspects of flight and tricks. Stretchest your mind a little but sometimes that's good. Keep up the good work.

[@budrocket6702]

Don't give up on him start him off with something a little less powerful like a tiny whoop style drone so that he can fly around outside or even inside his house and get the feel of it🚀👏

[@twitchfpv6797]

Where are you located? I'm in Jersey if it isn't that far for you.

[@KenHeron]

West Tennessee. 😥

[@JClintB6538]

This was great, lol, it looks like it's very hard, but it also looks like it would be very exciting. Love these videos where the master is just learning and your like the rest of us.

[@timmytson1]

So much better than a gps I remember when I thought I could fly a camera drone. Now I really fly

[@bruceleroy61]

This is a good example for drone operators/photographers to realize how that they`re not pilots.

[@nexxusty]

Lol, yup.

[@carlosd972]

HAHAH! i love your videos with FPV please MORE!! there gosh darn hilarious every time! but it also shows how well your learning~! im only maybe 2-3 months into FPV but i have been flying model planes for over 2.5 years, my advice would be first going slow, practice alot with your whoop and not have alot of camera tilt, also, alot of simulator!

[@mattschoular8844]

Thanks guys. You guys are great together...

[@Sky-wakka]

Your videos are too funny, i recognized you from joshua bardwells mavic mini video. I don't think i laugh as hard at any other videos on youtube. Subscribed :p

[@KenHeron]

Hey thanks for the sub my friend!🤓👍

[@JSKCKNIT]

Great video as usual Ken! If you're ever in the No. Virginia area again, we'd love to have you fly with us! I'm still a beginner as well, but getting there!

[@Northstar-Media]

I have the same quad racing frame & battery. I did a swap for it for a Hubsan 501-S I said to him "are you sure" he said "just take it “ & ran into the house laughing. Had it out once the curve is steep with no one to show you the way.

[@steveroxx69]

Just got that bugs 8 to start trying fpv with the punch out with a 3s battery is insane good video thank you

[@christera2686]

I wonder if maybe your kwad needs some tuning? Or just try the rpm filtering, it works very good! 😁

[@scarfacefpv7822]

Looks like you need to turn up the module output power I usually use 100mw I had problems at 25mw.

[@souocara38able]

I gotta try that! But 1st I need to make some money taking pictures or doing construction progress because I have none yet lol

[@tommyzegers]

Where you located

[@bullzye101]

awesome stuff ken .. big thumbs up

[@KenHeron]

Thank you kindly

[@akeem11h]

I love you guys. I was feeling down today, and now I can’t stop laughing.

[@proximityfpv1722]

glad to see you catching the bug :) I'm in Santa Cruz CA. but there's lot's of groups and you-tubers dedicated to FPV. Watch Skitzo, Mr. steel, and really old Rotor Riots. :)

[@JohnSwitzer]

I'm even newer at this than you are, so I can't be much help. But I did discover the other day after I crashed that I could use the signal strength from the directional antenna on the goggles to get an idea where it was. Still took 45 minutes trudging through the snow, but i did find it.

[@bren42069]

Pro tip, get a vifly buzzer. It's extremely loud and it's self powered So it will still beep even if you throw the battery. Which you eventually will 👍 It's like 20 bucks and so very worth it.

[@keenanlanser9409]

Hey Ken! Great video as usual! I would love to get into FPV’ing sometime soon, and it sure is a lot to learn. Do you recommend any beginner/intermediate FPV drones that are not super expensive, but are not cheapy ones that you just fly in the house. I’d prefer it have a RTF option, since Betaflight looks pretty scary to me. Thanks!

[@DocmurdocFPV]

Keenan Lanser There are a number of RTF’s out there. Check Rotor Riot, Race Day Quads, Get FPV, Flite Test and Xhover. But keep in mind you are gonna break it and then have to fix it. You can build one a lot cheaper yourself and then you will know exactly how to repair it. Food for thought.

[@keenanlanser9409]

Docmurdoc how much do you estimate one to cost if you build it yourself? Also, would it be difficult to learn how to program it and all of that stuff?

[@DocmurdocFPV]

Keenan Lanser You can purchase an inexpensive frame for about 30’ish dollars. A set of motors for about $40, a set of ESC’s for $40, a flight controller for $35’ish, an FPV camera for $25-$35, a vtx for about $20, a control receiver for $20’ish, the remote for between $50 and $200 depending on the type and brand, box goggles from $50-$150 or Fatshark style goggles used from $250 to new as much as $600. You will still need batteries and a charger. 4s 1500mah lipos are around $18-$25 each, a charger to charge them from $40-$150 depending on brand and output amps. You can literally buy all of this off Amazon and EBay. Now all this is assuming a 5” quad as that is the most common and easiest to get everything you need.

[@DocmurdocFPV]

Keenan Lanser if you like hit me up on my Instagram page docmurdoc883 would love to help ya out if you are really interested in getting started. You can see all the ones I have worked through.

[@keenanlanser9409]

Docmurdoc dang, that’s like $250 for a quad. I’ve found a 3inch RTF kit that comes with a remote for $100. (Mantis 85), also, there’s a 5inch with remote for like $200. (Eachine Wizard x220) do you recommend trying to build one for first time FPVers

[@SCAerialsSteveCarpenter]

ROFLMAO, Ken & Kelly! Thanks for the fun video and good laughs, Guys! LOL, KellyFPV😂😂, Kelly you and me are in the same place! This was a blast, thanks for making my day!

[@tankthebear]

This is the most hilarious thing I have seen in awhile. There is a group of us older retired guys JUST trying to get into FPV so ... this is US!

[@KenHeron]

🤪👍

[@DFDuck55]

My first quadcopter, 6 years ago, I would tell people I was "going out to practice crashing." It was a continuous cycle of "it's going to high" followed by "it's coming down to fast" and would eventually just crash it into the ground so it didn't fly away. After about a year of that I started getting the hang of it and got my first GPS camera drone. I got all the crashing out of my system that first year and have never crashed a drone since. I think everyone should be required to learn to fly an FPV quadcopter before they are allowed to buy a camera drone.

[@zacback420]

Which state are you in

[@weaverl43]

Ken, always enjoy your channel, entertaining and informative. I would appreciate it greatly if you could explain the actual dynamics of quadcopter flight. I get the up and down, even the forward and back and the roll but how the heck does a quadcopter yaw?

[@KenHeron]

Great idea for a video. Thanks!

[@armandrone9016]

You were looking like Beavis & Butt-Head ... That was really fun 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I just subscribed ...

[@KenHeron]

Thanks bud! Welcome to the channel. 🤘

[@robdigital5920]

Haha loved this video! I just recently peaked into the world of FPV and got me a Tinyhawk rtf kit and I’m HOOKED!

[@XJ1345]

check your antenna allignment. seems like at least on the second failsave you were directing the antenna null point towards the failsave location.

[@KenHeron]

Thank you.

[@bob8086]

I run 4s and it’s plenty of sauce for me. Lower camera tilt, and Re-lax. I used to be so stressed on the sticks now I can fly somewhat casually and have fun!

[@KenHeron]

Thank you Bob!

[@snotsworld]

Your hilarious Ken, lol it's so funny seeing you get excited and addicted. Ye you shoudl always start someone with a whoop as the fear is too high. I mean it's dangerous. Love seeing you learn and get excited and trying to share that joy with others. It's funny ay such an addiction in such a short time and all you wanna do is try share the experience. I really have no time to make vids , so use my time to enjoy building and flying. If you need any help more then happy to help.

[@CaptureLifeConnection]

Lol, entertaining video! FPV drone videos look so cool but I’m not ready for the learning curve.

[@woodrunner51]

PS, flying a whoop, or a sim can help with the basic reflexes. Me myself has spent 3 hours on a sim and then flew a 5 inch. It was slow and stressful, after about 2 hours on the 5 inch i got comfy with a flip

[@espena87]

This looks like so much fun! And from a videography point of view, there's so many cool things a fpv drone can do that my Mavic Air can't! I haven't done much fpv research at all, but it looks like a very "custom" thing and that you gotta build your own drone? Maybe you could do a fpv video guide so-to-speak? Like either how you build a good fpv drone, or (if it exists) which manufacturer fpv drones you recommend for a few different prize ranges? :) Keep up the good work, Ken, you're doing great! From Norway - Buh, and bye ;)

[@KenHeron]

Thanks Espen! kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6CudYGpZbB2ftk

[@espena87]

@@KenHeron Wow, now I feel stupid and/or blind... But thanks alot! Gonna watch it after work for sure. :)

[@jeffstewart4133]

As an fpv guy I would say work on that tune you have on that quad. It looked a little shaky. If all else fails take it back to default settings. Looked better than my first couple flights!!

[@jamestavernier8222]

He's lightyears away from worrying about a little bit of oscillations...

[@rc-fannl7364]

Are you using Crossfire? It's odd to see the RX signal getting lost so close.

[@justinhealey-htcohio3798]

Hi, I just want you to know I watched your video and the first thing that came to mind was wow, these guys must be lucky and single. Then, shortly after you made a comment that made me piss myself laughing. Thank you both very much for making my day!

[@QOSQualityofSpeed]

Doing good, Ken. I know the Fail-Safe can kick off at about that distance. So try to keep it a little bit closer to you. You can also set it so that the brothers don't go to zero under your controller setups. Of course, you can do that in betaflight, but you can also do it in most controllers. I've done the same transition that you're doing now where I mostly want to fly the racing Drones. They are so much fun.

[@friendlyfire01]

Just keep on with the Simulator buddy you're coming to a point with stick time where things will just click and you'll be coordinating turns like a master. Next will be setting up modern tuning and filters to completely eliminate vibrations and wobbles. Once those are gone you'll be AMAZED the control you get.

[@FlyNasty]

More FPV videos!! You crack me up!

[@samhoff1724]

I fly only these acrobatic drones and keep at it there so much fun when you get used to them

[@scottcary9260]

Well done my friend, the first tries are TERRIFYING. It does come, it is addictive and for me it has been transformative. For me FPV is a way to relax, focus and recenter. How’s that for hippi, but it is true. Thanks for sharing and don’t give up.

[@CaptainMavic]

Fun to watch. 2 tips. Set your fpv camera angle to 30 degrees. It will slow you down and let you see more horizon. I like to fly low proximity as if you were racing. It gets your stick control developed. Set your arm switch the opposite in beta flight. All the pilots I know want to quickly unarm by pulling the switch towards you. It’s much harder the way you have it.

[@eskrace1104]

Reminds me a little about that grandpa that bought his first sports car ever and the first thing he does is driving it in the lamppost at the neighbors 🤣

[@Nilloc777]

My biggest tip is to always be moving forward. It is scary at first but speed is key to an extent

[@xtkfpv5306]

Hi Ken, Here is a tip for you. If you have a high uptilt on your camera like racers do (45 deg or more), you can make turns like a flying wing, more of a bank and yank style but if you are uptilted 30 deg or less, most of your turning is done with left stick, yaw. You will also find, even at high uptilts that by mixing your yaw and roll axis you will have much smoother turns and less oscillations in your video footage.

[@RobbieFPV]

FPV IS LIFE!! I'm not the type of pilot that hates camera drones unlike a lot of fpv pilots. I also enjoy shooting video's with a dji drone. But yea I definitely prefer fpv because it gives me such a rush.

[@RCDevotee]

You have all you really need...the passion to want to fly. Just keep getting more stick time. I started a while back so I pretty much learned the hard way to fly and build. You have so many great mentors on KZbin these days to help you with anything but getting the stick time is up to you. With today's tech I would probably get a good indoor whoop class quad so I can maximize my practice time and have more obstacles and an altitude limit. Whoop flying in your house also will help your throttle control since you have a limited altitude. A 6S 5" can cause some good damage especially if you keep falling out of the sky. You definitely need to troubleshoot that Rx loss or just go Crossfire like everyone else :) My flying vastly improved when I had obstacles and goals while flying. The little whoops are great for bouncing off things and still flying like a real acro quad. You can buy a ton of batteries for it and if you get the right whoop you shouldn't really need too many quad spare parts. There are so many great whoops for indoor flying out these days. Have fun!