This Is Why Robert Downey Jr Was Cast As Doctor Doom

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@NewRockstars
@NewRockstars 5 ай бұрын
What do you think "new mask, same task" means?
@hokage1997
@hokage1997 5 ай бұрын
it means eminem has been real quiet since he dropped those bars
@Nintendofan91
@Nintendofan91 5 ай бұрын
I interpreted it as Dr. Doom simply being Marvel Studios’ replacement for Kang. It’s a different “mask” or villain, but they share the same motivation and just plugged Doom into the hole that Kang left.
@seabornefiber9963
@seabornefiber9963 5 ай бұрын
"A suit of armor around the world." Though probably a bit more devious with Doom than with Tony.
@robodrew
@robodrew 5 ай бұрын
Personally I think he was talking about his task as the actor RDJ, to hold up the MCU on his shoulders. I am hoping that the 1st option is the one that we get, and that RDJ is just in the mask all the time and is acting as a totally different person. He's a good enough actor to pull that off I think.
@BillyHoox
@BillyHoox 5 ай бұрын
"peace in our time"
@kim-n
@kim-n 5 ай бұрын
Once we get the movies, please do a combined episode of "what I got wrong vs. what i got right" because you have some WILD theories rn.
@dumblydoor3741
@dumblydoor3741 5 ай бұрын
They did that for 2023..it was fun
@TheInfamousDope
@TheInfamousDope 5 ай бұрын
They get infos in advance from these companies (insiders, meet ups with writers, directors and producers, early screenings…)so what is the point? I know it looks impressive for you average viewers but these are not theories but marketing. They working hand in hand with Amazon, Disney, etc…
@dumblydoor3741
@dumblydoor3741 5 ай бұрын
@@TheInfamousDope I would have agreed with you except 80% of their theories last year were wrong.. Infact most of the time their theories ( especially during Got era) were so much better than the final product.
@Envy_8492
@Envy_8492 5 ай бұрын
They do that annually...
@jeromemunoz9343
@jeromemunoz9343 5 ай бұрын
@@dumblydoor3741 it's okay if they're wrong. they're not in the writers rooms or in the producer/director chair. that's the fun of these channels. we get to delve into the possibilities of nerdom
@TheBuddha747
@TheBuddha747 5 ай бұрын
RDJ could totally play multiple characters. Remember, he's the dude playin' the dude, disguised as another dude!
@ds_the_rn
@ds_the_rn 5 ай бұрын
This!!! ❤
@miscellaneousdanger
@miscellaneousdanger 5 ай бұрын
Underrated.
@ChosenOne232
@ChosenOne232 5 ай бұрын
Iykyk, lol
@ajwilson1985
@ajwilson1985 5 ай бұрын
Here you go… take your W…Good Job!! 😂
@nwad76
@nwad76 5 ай бұрын
🤣😂😅🤣 Love it!
@youmissed
@youmissed 5 ай бұрын
i guess RDJ gets to be in all avenger movies
@Raze9110
@Raze9110 5 ай бұрын
Lol i didn't even realise that
@stephenrobinson8244
@stephenrobinson8244 5 ай бұрын
Untill he's 90
@valarmorghulis3571
@valarmorghulis3571 5 ай бұрын
Lmao deadpool reference. Disney😂​@@stephenrobinson8244
@DAMfoxygrampa
@DAMfoxygrampa 5 ай бұрын
And next, Hugh Jackman as Galactus!!
@kvaldez46
@kvaldez46 5 ай бұрын
​@@DAMfoxygrampa😂
@Alienkiwi730
@Alienkiwi730 5 ай бұрын
We now have a shared Marvel cinematic universe where Josh Brolin is both Thanos and Cable, Ryan Reynolds is both Deadpool and Hannibal King, and Chris Evans as Human Torch and Captain America. Robert as Doom should work
@MrJoker725
@MrJoker725 5 ай бұрын
Wow this actually made me feel a little better about it
@joelmacgregor2615
@joelmacgregor2615 5 ай бұрын
and Ben Affleck is Daredevil and the Batman we don’t need, but deserve
@Lizardbrainzzz
@Lizardbrainzzz 5 ай бұрын
@@joelmacgregor2615you do realise Batman is in the DC universe
@michaelmorningstar8645
@michaelmorningstar8645 5 ай бұрын
I don't know why people are making a big deal about this. Doom never shows his face.
@KewaiiGamer
@KewaiiGamer 5 ай бұрын
@@Lizardbrainzzz that's why he said "the batman we don't need"
@DTM_329
@DTM_329 5 ай бұрын
Lived long enough to both die a hero and see himself become the villain.
@ComeWhatMay11
@ComeWhatMay11 5 ай бұрын
He started it, & he’s gonna finish it… again.
@RamWorkz
@RamWorkz 5 ай бұрын
What is this "finish it" mentality people keep going on about
@ogfortify7674
@ogfortify7674 5 ай бұрын
​@@RamWorkz RDJ was the first hero introduced in the MCU. And now he's the Final villain before the reboot.
@eliphas_vlka
@eliphas_vlka 5 ай бұрын
He finished with endgame the main story at the time ​@@RamWorkz
@im.konner3206
@im.konner3206 5 ай бұрын
Cause that’s how dad did it and that’s how America does it!
@ZaOnly420
@ZaOnly420 5 ай бұрын
​@@RamWorkzreboot after secret wars
@mohzayd1234
@mohzayd1234 5 ай бұрын
RDJ was originally considered for Dr Doom in the 2005 Fantastic Four movie, but that never happened, so this has been basically 19 years in the making
@xaviev
@xaviev 5 ай бұрын
That’s not the reason the movie has a lot of imagery and only Robert Downey can continue that
@tennisman8304
@tennisman8304 5 ай бұрын
@@xavievLOL yup he’s the only actor 😂
@xaviev
@xaviev 5 ай бұрын
@@tennisman8304 don’t you get it ?
@tsevere
@tsevere 5 ай бұрын
They're 19 years too late.
@CeeWorld69
@CeeWorld69 5 ай бұрын
He wasn’t considered, he failed that audition lol. Just because you audition doesn’t make you considered 😂😂
@mmarie1400
@mmarie1400 5 ай бұрын
Do you think they trusted Tom Holland with the information that RDJ is returning? The thought of Tom finding out on the news the day after comic con has me cackling LOL
@DaftEddy2025
@DaftEddy2025 5 ай бұрын
He’s washed up as a actor so he really don’t care as much as when he started
@kay-jay1581
@kay-jay1581 4 ай бұрын
@@DaftEddy2025”washed up?” He was in the highest film from last year. Also it was a whole summer event Barbie and Openheimer
@DaftEddy2025
@DaftEddy2025 4 ай бұрын
@@kay-jay1581 in other words, he's done with the Hollywood BS that he ain't got time for all that.
@Stephanieegon
@Stephanieegon 4 ай бұрын
I'm gonna guess he didn't know 😂. I'd like a reaction video however 🤣
@KnotSandy
@KnotSandy 4 ай бұрын
the movie is probably like being created, so yeah he probably knew
@tazgroce3415
@tazgroce3415 5 ай бұрын
RDJ being the anchor could explain why all other movies after endgame were shit because the MCU was falling apart
@tizardloes
@tizardloes 5 ай бұрын
😂
@sirspoonkm.
@sirspoonkm. 4 ай бұрын
No way home? Guardians 3? Shang chi?
@TheScumBads_Official
@TheScumBads_Official 4 ай бұрын
​@sirspoonkm. Good job, you were able to count the 3 good movies out of the last 20!
@libbyallen2566
@libbyallen2566 4 ай бұрын
@@TheScumBads_Officialso? That’s still not all movies.
@Stephanieegon
@Stephanieegon 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 omg
@motoflex1876
@motoflex1876 5 ай бұрын
I think this RDJ - DOOM came from one of the 14,000,605 possible outcomes of Dr. Strange saw that they didn't win over thanos.
@AC-yw2qs
@AC-yw2qs 5 ай бұрын
Could it be tied back to Thanos eluding to knowing Stark. It's a stretch but possible
@georgewashington7982
@georgewashington7982 4 ай бұрын
@@AC-yw2qsthat would not make sense, cus the Russo bros said that RDJ will be victor von doom, not stark
@motoflex1876
@motoflex1876 4 ай бұрын
@@georgewashington7982 Good point! It's also possible they met Victor after those events (which they've failed). Then Victor switched bodies with Stark and that's it RDJ - Victor not Stark. Still a theory haha
@MikeZ-eo9jv
@MikeZ-eo9jv 5 ай бұрын
How about the possibility of Marvel paying off the line that Tony says to Steve in Endgame: “when you mess with time it tends to mess back; you’ll see.” THAT, would be an interesting twist.
@theuponfurthereview
@theuponfurthereview 5 ай бұрын
This is good.
@varunteja6583
@varunteja6583 5 ай бұрын
Really good
@millerwlee
@millerwlee 5 ай бұрын
Love that
@timothyaigbe8023
@timothyaigbe8023 5 ай бұрын
Love me that plot twist
@the.scarlet.stitch
@the.scarlet.stitch 5 ай бұрын
I love that.
@ricardoberrios6137
@ricardoberrios6137 5 ай бұрын
“TILL YOU ARE 90!”
@ServusDeiSmith
@ServusDeiSmith 5 ай бұрын
Well, prepare to see this already lame joke for the next 5 years.
@iokua1120
@iokua1120 5 ай бұрын
Nice
@alantaylor7591
@alantaylor7591 5 ай бұрын
@@ServusDeiSmithyou seem sad 😢
@jamiejktube
@jamiejktube 5 ай бұрын
@@ServusDeiSmith next 5 years? no, "Till you're 90!"
@Silentcharlie88
@Silentcharlie88 5 ай бұрын
😂😂
@jctobias2916
@jctobias2916 5 ай бұрын
Your mention of Oppenheimer backs up that Cillian Murphy would also play a great doom. Hope he’s the choice for 616 doom
@tdoom1354
@tdoom1354 5 ай бұрын
Cillian would never join Marvel
@DrugzMunny
@DrugzMunny 5 ай бұрын
@@tdoom1354 Based on what? That he is too serious of an actor like Anthony Hopkins? Or that he's already worked for DC like Ryan Reynolds? Did Marvel dump a bunch of toxic sludge on his hometown or something?
@ItzSpritz
@ItzSpritz 5 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@DrugzMunnyI could be wrong, but I’m almost certain Cillian said he never wanted to play a superhero. Because most people who play hero’s, that tend’s to be their only role for years and years to come. Or something they’re ONLY known for. Actors like to be noticed for more than one role. Kinda like how Steve Carrel seems to not like talking about his role as Michael Scott in The Office considering he’s done sooo much more
@thonironman8570
@thonironman8570 5 ай бұрын
RDJ NOT GOOD FOR DOOM. GET ANOTHER ACTOR
@salawinborn7246
@salawinborn7246 5 ай бұрын
RDJ is stunt casting to be sure. However I do believe he is also there to play on the emotions of characters who knew him. Such as Thor, Scott, Strange, Clint, and mostly importantly Peter Parker. Picture this possible scene in Secret Wars, Peter seeing an unmasked Doom and assuming he’s Tony. Peter runs over, hugs Doom, only to realize or be hurt by Doom then saying “You’re not Tony.”
@andrewthomasestrada
@andrewthomasestrada 5 ай бұрын
"I am... Doom."
@christian8657
@christian8657 5 ай бұрын
The "good luck on your mission, Doctor" reference is such a deep cut
@ralphcorneliuscastro
@ralphcorneliuscastro 5 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh I get it now
@TENCHUSNAKE-
@TENCHUSNAKE- 5 ай бұрын
"You mess with time, it tends to mess back.” -Tony Stark/Ironman Endgame
@FireJach
@FireJach 5 ай бұрын
The stage was full of Dr. Doom. Are they hinting we're getting multiple Dr. Dooms in the movie like they tried with Kangs???
@SpiritKingD
@SpiritKingD 5 ай бұрын
Just Doom bots
@riqdafriq4156
@riqdafriq4156 5 ай бұрын
That has to be it
@Naptosis
@Naptosis 5 ай бұрын
Doom is smart enough to create androids (Doom-bots) to carry out his plans, so he doesn't even need to be there himself. Meaning he can appear to be in multiple places at once, and isn't defeated even in the unlikely event of someone getting to 'him' & destroying 'him'. Only 60% of the time, defeating Doom works every time.
@timothygarner477
@timothygarner477 5 ай бұрын
I think its more hes an easy replacement for kang. Im imagining all the instances with doom bots are just going to be the fodder kangs we saw at the end of quantum mania. So they dont have to scrap everything with kang
@vicanthonyleriorato8225
@vicanthonyleriorato8225 5 ай бұрын
suit of armor around the world
@LKYHGaming
@LKYHGaming 5 ай бұрын
Honestly though the fourth option is the best one bcuz it ensures that Reed and Victor's classic rivalry is still there even if its not a true Victor Von Doom adaptation. Like they could be rivals in how smart they are and their intellectual achievements/contributions to the world. He could always be trying to one up Reed in everything until it all goes wrong one day.
@SemiramisAudron
@SemiramisAudron 5 ай бұрын
Im fully expecting it to be an alternate timeline where Tony Stark BECAME Dr. Doom
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je 4 ай бұрын
It's going to be THE Victor Von Doom (surely from another universe, not the one from the sacred timeline), not a Tony variant, both Russo Brothers AND RDJ himself confirmed this!
@wyattmarcoux6942
@wyattmarcoux6942 5 ай бұрын
I assumed that RDJ was just doing the voice, like Doom was not going to take the mask off because his face was severely disfigured this time around
@mathiasfrandsen5468
@mathiasfrandsen5468 5 ай бұрын
i think it would be cool if he had a mask that opens or a mask he can take of, but only half his face, because the other half is scared like the commics
@vgautamkrishna5197
@vgautamkrishna5197 5 ай бұрын
Sadly doom's mask got melted onto his skin and it can't be taken off ​@@mathiasfrandsen5468
@JasperBlake2010
@JasperBlake2010 5 ай бұрын
Ok but didn’t Chris Evans’ Johnny Storm in Deadpool & Wolverine kind of set a precedent that the same actor can be a non-variant of their character? Deadpool thought it was Captain America at first, which lends itself to the Avengers having to fight someone who looks just like someone they all love so dearly, but is a totally different person.
@bohemiangroovepod
@bohemiangroovepod 5 ай бұрын
good catch m'boy
@TheInfamousDope
@TheInfamousDope 5 ай бұрын
They literally said that in the video when talking about the actors who already played previous roles in the MCU
@JasperBlake2010
@JasperBlake2010 5 ай бұрын
@@TheInfamousDope you sure bout that?
@KomaValorina
@KomaValorina 5 ай бұрын
Except Fantastic 4 came out 19 years ago long before he was ever Cap. I don't see anybody talking about Killmonger also being Johnny Storm and that timeline would have been equally pruned in the buyout
@farhanlabib-kc7ud
@farhanlabib-kc7ud 5 ай бұрын
It is. But is that was with something do with stones that Cap gonna give them back? Remember portal can send you different time line. Maybe different universe? So many possibilites.
@Jimmy074x4
@Jimmy074x4 5 ай бұрын
I believe they announced him on stage as Victor Von doom. I think they showed us in Deadpool that an actor can play two different characters. I think that’s a whole reason for that cameo to say this person can play two different characters and it’s OK. I also think RDJ as Tony Stark was amazing but I kind of got the feeling he’s going to one up it by playing the villain Victor Von doom. Plus we know when Peter Parker sees Mr. Stark again in tears only to be told by Viktor Von doom he is not tony and then probably beating him up it’s gonna break all of our hearts lol .
@levischorpioen
@levischorpioen 5 ай бұрын
Double-casting has been a thing since Phase Two.
@Jimmy074x4
@Jimmy074x4 5 ай бұрын
@@levischorpioen yes I know he said that in the video, but this is the first time besides that big cameo in Deadpool that it’s been a main character.
@Rand0mCommenter
@Rand0mCommenter 5 ай бұрын
@@Jimmy074x4I don’t think it will happen sadly.
@voodooness
@voodooness 5 ай бұрын
Doom: Peter... Parker? Peter: Mr.Stark? Doom: no. (Doom then Kills Peter Parker)
@KC_sonic-on
@KC_sonic-on 5 ай бұрын
spot on analysis @Jimmy074x4… cldnt agree more! 💥👌🏼
@Dru2Usucka
@Dru2Usucka 5 ай бұрын
The “Baxter Building” on that mat looks familiar… I think we all guessed where Avengers Tower was gonna end up.
@mathiasfrandsen5468
@mathiasfrandsen5468 5 ай бұрын
Him getting the powers of the beyonder, fighting kang, ripping thanos spine out, the comic stories mixed, him meeting peter parker as doom, seeing tom cruise as superior ironman, making ironman the archor beeing 616, ironman varient standing in a shot with tobey maquire and hug jackman wolverine, doctor doom owning a badass castle like the comics, having a mask that opens half from his scared face maybe, or darker eyes/makeup. Just a little brainstorm, but if non happen im sure the movie will be great, in Kevin fiegie we trust!
@oluwabunmiadedotun3807
@oluwabunmiadedotun3807 5 ай бұрын
I feel the movie is gonna look like S2 Ep1 Avengers “Earth mightiest hero’s” animated series fr
@NoirNameless
@NoirNameless 5 ай бұрын
The mcu wishes it was Earth’s Mightiest Heroes. 😒
@GTheoryTV
@GTheoryTV 5 ай бұрын
No...AEMH was good. This is shit!!!
@SpiderManMCUniverse
@SpiderManMCUniverse 5 ай бұрын
@@GTheoryTVI’m against RDJ Doom but you can’t say that when we don’t even have a trailer.
@DJ-hx9oj
@DJ-hx9oj 5 ай бұрын
i’ve been wanting them to just adapt that universe so bad it’s legit aura
@SecretMagician
@SecretMagician 5 ай бұрын
​​@@DJ-hx9ojhopefully after Secret Wars since it'll apparently lead to a soft reboot.
@annas.3142
@annas.3142 5 ай бұрын
Remember in Infinity War that Tony unknowingly leaned up against the "Cauldron of the Cosmos" in the Sanctum Sanctorum… so who knows what essence of Stark could’ve cooked up in the multiverse stew. To refer Doctor who’s Clara who went into Time vortex to save the doctor, It could mean multiple Starks got reborn as Doom to save the multiverses through Loki’s shenanigans with the timelines. Loki is watching from his realm, Kang is still around so he’s giving the multiverses a chance.
@MirageUchiha
@MirageUchiha 5 ай бұрын
_I can't WAIT for Parker to meet this Doom._ _Interactions gonna be CRAZY!_
@_Amit_Sunil
@_Amit_Sunil 5 ай бұрын
Noone on 616 remembers Peter anyway
@MasterZeus94
@MasterZeus94 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure that's the cheap shock factor they will go with. Peter will thwip Doom's mask off.
@MirageUchiha
@MirageUchiha 5 ай бұрын
@_Amit_Sunil Uhh, okay...? What's that gotta do wit Peter looking at someone who looks like Stark? That's what I'm talkin bout!
@SpiderManMCUniverse
@SpiderManMCUniverse 5 ай бұрын
If Feige has brain cells, we WON’T and should NOT ever see Doom’s face. But due to needing to see an actor’s face, this is unfortunately possible.
@bryanpowell2388
@bryanpowell2388 5 ай бұрын
It’ll be Peter meeting Tony not doom no what they do
@Gamerfang2929
@Gamerfang2929 5 ай бұрын
They really took “once you live longer enough to see yourself become the villain” to another level
@artvocado5943
@artvocado5943 5 ай бұрын
I really like the idea of Tony being the anchor being of the MCU. This could put Doctor Strange in a pretty stressful role once it’s revealed, as he’s the one who put the idea of a sacrificial play into Tony’s head, therefore getting the anchor being of his universe killed.
@kenkyunni8375
@kenkyunni8375 5 ай бұрын
Anchor being..I like that
@donkin2563
@donkin2563 5 ай бұрын
Regardless, im really looking forward to seeing how the Multiverse Saga ends, this is going to be interesting!
@blakewalker6883
@blakewalker6883 5 ай бұрын
I’m really more following the scenario in my head that they choose RDJ because he’s just such a good actor. If they can keep his mask on just like he does in the comics, then it’s not going to matter who is underneath, the only thing that will matter is that they are doing a killer job with the role
@Youtube_Street_Drifter
@Youtube_Street_Drifter 5 ай бұрын
You know his mask will come off sometime during the fight and it will mess the Avengers heads up of what to do
@almostadonovan
@almostadonovan 5 ай бұрын
RDJ is too valuable to leave the mask on though. Most actors have agents who refuse to sign them for a role unless they get a certain amount of facetime on the screen, and you can bet your life savings that's the case here.
@TheInfamousDope
@TheInfamousDope 5 ай бұрын
@@almostadonovanDoom never takes his mask off and you don’t know wtf kind of deal RDJ agreed on with Marvel
@SShortyduwaaap
@SShortyduwaaap 5 ай бұрын
If he's going to keep the mask on, then what's the point of getting RDJ? for his voice?
@blakewalker6883
@blakewalker6883 5 ай бұрын
@@SShortyduwaaap because he’s a great actor like I said. At the end of the day nobody knows what they have planned for Doom and why they choose RDJ, that’s just the scenario I want to happen and would make the most sense for me to be on board with his casting.
@OURHAPPYPLACE
@OURHAPPYPLACE 5 ай бұрын
I beleive its either a variant or a Loki like moment where Tony is ripped unexpectedly from the sacred timeline and instead of a redemption arc gets a villians arc.
@bravostrat4381
@bravostrat4381 5 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say. Been watching for years and I love your hypothesis and the positivity you bring EVERY VIDEO. Thanks!
@TrillCannon
@TrillCannon 5 ай бұрын
You cookin with the last theory 👨🏻‍🍳
@thisis_lungstar
@thisis_lungstar 5 ай бұрын
This one video alone has given me hope. That What If scenario is pretty solid.
@blackadam86sinister51
@blackadam86sinister51 5 ай бұрын
This is the type of energy I like, it's like they ain't hungry no more
@barijade
@barijade 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for always being optimistic, looking on the bright side, and exploring and explaining options outside of our normal spectrum of view. I would have never concluded such options and you opened my eyes to what could be and I think it would be a very, very cool perspective to see!
@mezuba
@mezuba 4 ай бұрын
I loved the announcement but I couldn’t imagine how would it work, now I can! Awesome theory as always 👏🏼
@ImThePerson0
@ImThePerson0 5 ай бұрын
I’m really interested to see how they tackle his character since they confirmed he’s playing Victor von Doom and not some Stark variant
@3phasefault
@3phasefault 5 ай бұрын
I mean, to play devil's advocate, how important is a name? Can't Victor von doom be a tony stark variant?
@sonofthesea9184
@sonofthesea9184 5 ай бұрын
​@@3phasefaultmight as well be a stark variant with a different or changed name
@ImThePerson0
@ImThePerson0 5 ай бұрын
@@3phasefault if his name is Victor von Doom, then no, he can’t. It would be a tremendous waste of potential as a character and completely destroyed Doom for what he is. I don’t think that they’ll go that route, though.
@rafauwaxc2871
@rafauwaxc2871 5 ай бұрын
What about Victor Timely? And Kang? They're variants and have different names🤷🏽‍♂️ It's possible in my opinion
@rafauwaxc2871
@rafauwaxc2871 5 ай бұрын
And also Qeng, Nathaniel Richards, etc.
@walisonjr25
@walisonjr25 5 ай бұрын
does anyone else see Ryan Reynolds behind RDJ at 1:03 ?
@Zehneee
@Zehneee 5 ай бұрын
Dude this is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels on here. My god you guys kill it!!
@stevil6669
@stevil6669 5 ай бұрын
Always astounded by your theorizing on these things. Gives me hope for a great story to come out of all this.
@bobhos1
@bobhos1 5 ай бұрын
I wonder what they would've done if there were a bunch of no's and boo's in Hall H when they revealed him. Would they have pulled the plug on the idea and canceled all the contracts to rethink the story?
@RiviaRK
@RiviaRK 5 ай бұрын
No one boos Robert Downey Jr
@markm_koko
@markm_koko 5 ай бұрын
I feel like people generally likes RDJ or a fan of him, he can never be booed
@internetj3r
@internetj3r 5 ай бұрын
Thankfully, we don’t live in that reality so there is no answer to your question.
@hih1951h
@hih1951h 5 ай бұрын
Did you honestly think the crowd would boo him LMFAO. The haters are only loud on the internet
@bobhos1
@bobhos1 5 ай бұрын
@@hih1951h Two magical words: what if 🙄
@chandru4584
@chandru4584 5 ай бұрын
3:36 Too out there?!?! We just watched a movie where two characters who touched matter and anti-matter to stop the McGuffin from destroying the universe... We have crossed the line of belief long back!
@CharlesChristinaWH
@CharlesChristinaWH 5 ай бұрын
This channel never acknowledges Victor's romani gypsy origins nor how great of a sorcerer he is that is compared to Steven Strange They just see mask and technology savant He's much more than that
@dwen_mix_
@dwen_mix_ 5 ай бұрын
while listening to Madonna!
@adambermudez5158
@adambermudez5158 5 ай бұрын
RDJ is gonna kill this role!
@davinalopez-oz1ez
@davinalopez-oz1ez 5 ай бұрын
destroy it yes
@Dhieen
@Dhieen 5 ай бұрын
in a good way
@iamssmedia
@iamssmedia 5 ай бұрын
He will but it still seems cheap…
@davinalopez-oz1ez
@davinalopez-oz1ez 5 ай бұрын
@@iamssmedia 👍👍
@joelmulligan8213
@joelmulligan8213 5 ай бұрын
So desperate
@BlackSun6393
@BlackSun6393 5 ай бұрын
I actually really like your take on it. Kind of eases my mind about the whole thing.
@TheFilmSpace1
@TheFilmSpace1 5 ай бұрын
Johnny Storm changed this. Deadpool thought it was Cap. So multiple characters can see two different people
@420blackdragon69
@420blackdragon69 5 ай бұрын
simply, there are timelines where Tony was not named Tony but it's still technically the same person
@rorythenerd
@rorythenerd 5 ай бұрын
This is why I wait for your videos! I had such a weird reaction to the announcement. I had all these theories running through my head but you've made sense of them, thank you!!
@sigma_0722
@sigma_0722 5 ай бұрын
My theory is RDJ is playing a variant of Tony who is the same as MCU Tony until he gets kidnapped. While kidnapped, instead of making mach 1 armor, he makes a doom suit. Instead of feeling bad about the destruction his weapons have caused he becomes radicalized and believes that he is the only one who can fix the world and everyone else is a threat to his world peace
@inspiritinghearts
@inspiritinghearts 5 ай бұрын
Great. But it sounds like wat Ultron would do.
@mechominecraft
@mechominecraft 5 ай бұрын
Ultron 2.0
@declanhickie1394
@declanhickie1394 5 ай бұрын
I really hope not, I just want doom to be doom.
@taewilson94
@taewilson94 5 ай бұрын
​@@inspiritinghearts ultron is Tony in AI form lbs
@ethnlcs
@ethnlcs 5 ай бұрын
would be interesting, but the Russos already confirmed that this character is Victor, not Tony
@Pwn3dbyth3n00b
@Pwn3dbyth3n00b 5 ай бұрын
If they make RDJ a Tony Stark variant that will assassinate the Victor Von Doom character.
@sunnyjudd5946
@sunnyjudd5946 4 ай бұрын
Of all the years of following, this channel never misses.
@Rihana-u6f
@Rihana-u6f 2 ай бұрын
Your video is really informative😊😊
@NickK-v6e
@NickK-v6e 5 ай бұрын
I hear you. But i think at this point. Its insane to think they have anything resemebling a plan. It just comes off as they're trying to salvage this saga as best they can and move on
@martinisholt7052
@martinisholt7052 5 ай бұрын
Yup, they couldn’t stand just rehiring JM and moving on with Kang. Now they’re scrambling and spitballing ideas
@ewill9049
@ewill9049 5 ай бұрын
Yeah but rdj is here to fill in for Kang in the next movies he probably won't be doing doom after secret wars. It's oblivious he going be some variant of stark or doom. I'm for it can't complain before I see it
@michaelmorningstar8645
@michaelmorningstar8645 5 ай бұрын
"Salvage" as of the biggest franchise in history needs to be salvaged while raking in billions a year.
@guarism0
@guarism0 5 ай бұрын
I hope he's not an alternative Tony Stark, just be Victor von Doom
@wolvgrizz7763
@wolvgrizz7763 5 ай бұрын
Nah, when they reboot the mcu, there will be a true VVD. Let this onr be a variant of tony stark.
@eliteghost1001
@eliteghost1001 5 ай бұрын
No
@michaelmorningstar8645
@michaelmorningstar8645 5 ай бұрын
​@@wolvgrizz7763They won't reboot the MCU.
@castlebyers6134
@castlebyers6134 5 ай бұрын
Until the Hall H announcement I thought that John Malkovich would be playing Doctor Doom.
@KomaValorina
@KomaValorina 5 ай бұрын
A ton of us were convinced it was Howard Stern, he even said on a hot mic that he was recording for "Doom" and we never found out what he meant
@larrycarter890
@larrycarter890 5 ай бұрын
Thanks NR I always like how y'all break stuff down
@FullMace
@FullMace 5 ай бұрын
Great job, I like your guess for the origin of a Stark Doom.
@glen6ten
@glen6ten 5 ай бұрын
2 other options..... 1. Howard had a secret family in Latveria that he denied. The mother and son lived a poor, harsh life. Victor looks just like Tony and hates it. He tries to experiment on his face and gets the metal mask stuck to it. Boom! Dr Doom. 2. When Tony snaps his fingers with the stones. He made another wish. That if he was ever needed again he would return from the dead more ruthless and aggressive. And anyone that tried to stop him would face Doom. Marvel send me a check. 5% is cool.
@magicike2254
@magicike2254 5 ай бұрын
Once again thank god fans don’t write the movies
@Zyantium
@Zyantium 5 ай бұрын
@@magicike2254 ikr
@glen6ten
@glen6ten 5 ай бұрын
@@magicike2254 geez 🥺. I'm sorry.
@tionnawright1271
@tionnawright1271 5 ай бұрын
I thought the first idea would be quite good if it counts cause wow lol
@CootiePootieTootie
@CootiePootieTootie 5 ай бұрын
Ignore the bullies 😊
@fivenight
@fivenight 5 ай бұрын
This is definitely part of a plan
@edwardbickford8277
@edwardbickford8277 5 ай бұрын
I'd have to agree.
@xackwerley9184
@xackwerley9184 5 ай бұрын
I agree, I think there is no way they get RDJ to come back if RDJ didn’t like the idea and if this wasn’t part of a solid plan. I mean I saw reports about RDJ coming back as Doom weeks before the announcement at SDCC. So I think this has been the plan for a while or at least since the situation with Jonathan Majors. I think this has been in the works longer than people think and isn’t just a desperate ass pull.
@niksterfer6sir
@niksterfer6sir 5 ай бұрын
Ima be annoyed if they bring doom in for 2 movies and then he’s gone.
@Downsouthie
@Downsouthie 5 ай бұрын
12:16 Howard Stark figured out the element that made that arc reactor stability possible.
@KingDJL330
@KingDJL330 5 ай бұрын
Looks like he’s back on that❄️
@Flatfourdetailing
@Flatfourdetailing 5 ай бұрын
RDJ should play all the avengers.
@gurdeepcheema1527
@gurdeepcheema1527 5 ай бұрын
If doom is behind the mask the whole time - we don’t have to worry about who’s under the mask. We get to just enjoy the performance.
@justcommoncurt
@justcommoncurt 5 ай бұрын
Ok but you know if they're paying for Robert Downey JR. We're gonna see him more without the mask than with the mask right?
@VALUST17
@VALUST17 5 ай бұрын
But he won’t be behind the mask the entire time.
@mylegguy8115
@mylegguy8115 5 ай бұрын
Let the actor act they not just one character. This is their job not identity
@michaelmorningstar8645
@michaelmorningstar8645 5 ай бұрын
​@@justcommoncurtNo. Your assumption is baseless. It's not like he's Megan Fox and just gets cast because people want to look at him.
@SailHatinSoap
@SailHatinSoap 5 ай бұрын
They referred to him as Victor Von Doom in the announcement-- he's not going to be Tony in and capacity. He's going to play both for one paycheck, essentially
@gregorabbott7400
@gregorabbott7400 5 ай бұрын
“You mess with time it tends to mess back, you’ll see”
@jeffreypeterson1732
@jeffreypeterson1732 4 ай бұрын
I'm down for this. The armor around the world line always stuck with me. Would also love a plot where 616 avengers meet RDJ Doom and think they know what he's capable of, while 616 F4 think they know him as well.
@MyoDest
@MyoDest 5 ай бұрын
At 1:03 I think there might be Ryan Reynolds hiding behind the DD mask standing behind RDJ. Look at his eyes!
@Ywouldnti
@Ywouldnti 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ravennalovecraft421
@ravennalovecraft421 5 ай бұрын
It's so so hard to tell, but it's hilarious 👀😂
@FutureBestFilmDirector
@FutureBestFilmDirector 5 ай бұрын
"Tony!?"Spiderman "Who's Tony I have one name..... DOOM!"
@jonalee5262
@jonalee5262 5 ай бұрын
Robert Downey Jr. is carrying Marvel and they LITERALLY know it because of this casting
@indominus5240
@indominus5240 5 ай бұрын
I've seen some speculation that it refers to the whole "suit of armor around the world" goal. So Doom's objective will probably be about saving the world or something like that, but he'll go about it in a villainous, brute force kind of way like with Thanos. In the Secret Wars comics, the different universes were colliding and destroying each other. Doom solved it by basically fusing everything into one world called Battleworld, where he ruled as its god. I imagine something similar will happen.
@ZombieRush22579
@ZombieRush22579 4 ай бұрын
I like your alternate timeline theory. It gets people thinking. Doctor Doom is such a forgotten character in modern media nowadays, when he's such a GOOD character. Seeing RDJ bring justice to this supposed alternate Doc Doom would be amazing to watch
@KC_sonic-on
@KC_sonic-on 5 ай бұрын
casting RDJ as Doom is a bold boss move… they KNOW how “fans” will react… they KNOW it will be confusing for regular cinema-goers… they KNOW they’ll get slammed “desperate”… so they also KNOW the reason they’re doing it is gonna be 100% WORTH THAT RISK!! dark twisted opportunities now open to them and the emotional rollercoaster audiences will experience is what Joe Russo describes as “unimaginable” - CRAZY jaw-dropping potential and i’m here for ALL OF IT!! 💥💥💥💥💥
@Green_Monster_
@Green_Monster_ 5 ай бұрын
Whatever it takes to make yourself believe this isn't the desperation move this is.
@christinaj.jensen4805
@christinaj.jensen4805 5 ай бұрын
Many saw it as bold to also cast him as Tony in the first place. Remember, he was coming out of his alcohol and drug abuse. He was a persona non grata because of his past. They took a shot and it paid off by the thousands. I think they will definetely make it work. Somehow. With Deadpook & Wolverine, the Multiverse opens up many doors.
@gurtfriends
@gurtfriends 5 ай бұрын
He got cast because marvel is terrified and went with the safest most profitable bet they could possibly do. There is no other reason.
@arriuscalpurniuspiso
@arriuscalpurniuspiso 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. They basically tanked this last phase. Deadpool is a one off. So they brought back Mr Moneybags to salvage the wreck
@Cor_Gaming
@Cor_Gaming 5 ай бұрын
Well no shit
@kyju7093
@kyju7093 5 ай бұрын
@@arriuscalpurniuspisothe only good movies was no way home and Deadpool lol
@michaelmorningstar8645
@michaelmorningstar8645 5 ай бұрын
He got cast because the Russos like working with him. What you said doesn't even make any sense.
@manicking
@manicking 5 ай бұрын
@@michaelmorningstar8645 If you think it doesn't make sense, then you're clearly just an MCU fan boy who can't think for their own. LMAO
@MirageUchiha
@MirageUchiha 5 ай бұрын
_He somehow lived a villain and died a hero._
@sethwarner9280
@sethwarner9280 5 ай бұрын
The comics explained shoutout was dope. That’s what I watched as soon as it dropped to theorize
@akilcharles3473
@akilcharles3473 5 ай бұрын
I was so glad to hear when someone brought up Gemma Chan who also played 2 roles in different Marvel movies, most often actors/actresses have 2 if not more roles of characters that are in Marvel. Chris Evans as both Johnny Storm & Captain America, Idris Elba as both Moreau & Heindall even Josh Brolin as both Cable & Thanos.
@brianpainter6620
@brianpainter6620 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I think it just comes down to the simple fact that you need an actor of RDJ's caliber to adequately portray such an iconic villain as Dr. Doom. Especially since Marvel seriously dropped the ball by not establishing the character in any way and they need to do a spectacular speed run back story before the 2 Avengers movies so the audience is invested in Victor Von Doom as much as they are for Thanos or even Loki. Given the special effects/CGI possibilities available now, I'm not worried about Victor Von Doom looking and sounding suspiciously like Tony Stark. Also having the Russo brothers directing is another smart move, they have proven that they can handle multiple characters and Secret Wars is going to dwarf Endgame by far on that.
@jarrettmaynard6306
@jarrettmaynard6306 5 ай бұрын
Cillian Murphy could've easily filled that role, he's just as skilled an actor as Tony and has a wider range of characters he's played. Hopefully he gets the Doom casting for the next saga, since we know Doom sure as shit ain't gonna be one and done after this saga
@JoeyTheSaint
@JoeyTheSaint 5 ай бұрын
@@jarrettmaynard6306 Absolutely. Casting RDJ as Doom because "we need a star" is the height of B.S. Cillian Murphy would've been a great choice for a younger Doom. If they wanted someone RDJ's age, cast Predrag Bjelac, or Nikola Djuricko, or Misha Collins or Tobias Menzies. For that matter, get Jason Isaacs on the phone! Holy hell would he be a brilliantly charming, terrifying Dr. Doom! Or if they were going for a bit younger, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Tobias Santelmann, even I bet Michiel Huisman could've done a great turn at making Doom a fully-fleshed out villain.
@chex234
@chex234 5 ай бұрын
0:02 looks like a spot for the arc reactor in the chest area🙂
@joemamma953
@joemamma953 5 ай бұрын
bad
@capt.n.kano.8707
@capt.n.kano.8707 5 ай бұрын
Yooo my boy @ComicsExplained got the shout out 🎉🎉🎉
@TPlocks
@TPlocks 5 ай бұрын
The comics explained shout out is so dope!!!
@staplesaresilvernotgray
@staplesaresilvernotgray 5 ай бұрын
When RDJ was shown as Dr. Doom. I already assumed that we would be an alternate universe version of Tony Stark, who changed his name to Victor Von Doom, and took the role of Dr. Doom with the same task that 616 Tony had, just taking it in a more villainous way.
@bhedrick101
@bhedrick101 5 ай бұрын
Timing. If Tony was a soldier in WW I, he'd be 60ish in the FF movie. So timeliness kinda works
@kim-n
@kim-n 5 ай бұрын
Casting RDJ as Dr Doom reinvigeorted my waing interest in the MCU. Actually looking forward to what comes next!
@AnotherScone
@AnotherScone 5 ай бұрын
What if they do the body swap angle and Doom is actually Cillian Murphy but Tony is trapped in his body. Cillian Murphy acting as Tony Stark would be wild
@rickjames501
@rickjames501 5 ай бұрын
With this explanation, I haven't been this excited (or excited at all, for that matter) about a marvel in years.
@solacm8673
@solacm8673 5 ай бұрын
I’m glad he’s back. Perfect casting.
@karsonchrist1212
@karsonchrist1212 5 ай бұрын
Imagine Thanos knew Starks name because he met Doom Stark
@matthewlee4697
@matthewlee4697 5 ай бұрын
Oh wow that hell of a thought! 👍
@yuichirouka6722
@yuichirouka6722 5 ай бұрын
11:41 i like this what if scenario
@Rock-Child
@Rock-Child 5 ай бұрын
Okay, I really dislike the RDJ casting, but your story sounds AMAZING!!
@radiohostalastor
@radiohostalastor 5 ай бұрын
He’s a Stark variant
@anubusx
@anubusx 5 ай бұрын
I would rather they give us the proper Doctor Doom.
@stikboi2115
@stikboi2115 5 ай бұрын
I hope to god he’s not
@radiohostalastor
@radiohostalastor 5 ай бұрын
@@anubusx Maybe they will. Just because he’s a Stark variant for one movie doesn’t mean they can’t bring in the true Victor Von Doom in another and find a way to keep him as a villain for a long time.
@TheChocoboKid
@TheChocoboKid 5 ай бұрын
RDJ Variant
@mikelopez7462
@mikelopez7462 5 ай бұрын
Totally love your pitch vs. demon in the armor
@surgicalninja216
@surgicalninja216 5 ай бұрын
I like the “what if” theory…my bf suggested this theory to me yesterday and I appreciate this take
@Nkwagolesleymakgahlela
@Nkwagolesleymakgahlela 5 ай бұрын
They doing Jonathan majors dirty
@brandonbitsilli1232
@brandonbitsilli1232 5 ай бұрын
What he did was dirty
@MrBornUnique
@MrBornUnique 5 ай бұрын
​@@brandonbitsilli1232What did he do that was dirty?
@takeomasaki260
@takeomasaki260 5 ай бұрын
in Feige we trust !!!!!!!!!
@davinalopez-oz1ez
@davinalopez-oz1ez 5 ай бұрын
hes desperate
@takeomasaki260
@takeomasaki260 5 ай бұрын
@@davinalopez-oz1ez I've been seeing alot of TROLL accounts say that Feige and Disney is desperate, explain to us all how are they desperate? please elaborate...
@YungLanxx
@YungLanxx 5 ай бұрын
@@takeomasaki260 using their most beloved actor in their franchise to play a character that they’re using to replace Kang, having a short time to find a replacement before production for the next Avengers movie starts, after years of losing the general audience…not hard to comprehend at all 🫤
@davinalopez-oz1ez
@davinalopez-oz1ez 5 ай бұрын
@@YungLanxx desperate like i said
@takeomasaki260
@takeomasaki260 5 ай бұрын
@@davinalopez-oz1ez what you call desperate is ultimately a MASTER chess move. I wouldn't expect you to understand how power plays work though. In due time you will see the genius in this casting. In Feige We Trust !!!!!!!!!!
@SeeSetJaeMiirTv
@SeeSetJaeMiirTv 5 ай бұрын
Cillian Murphy
@fieljuan
@fieljuan 5 ай бұрын
Probable the best spec script for this Doom. WoW! That could be something I want to see!
@tiger_girl0079
@tiger_girl0079 5 ай бұрын
I work at a comic book store and this has been the most talked about ordeal
@kingaxxidnt2484
@kingaxxidnt2484 5 ай бұрын
I'm not even mad because the actor himself never Eva had a bad role I'm actually curious to see how he plays this out
@asmooshi9752
@asmooshi9752 5 ай бұрын
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