This Knock Off RC Truck is now CHEAPER, but... there's a catch!

[@Gerar79]

I am passionate about short courses and this one looks very nice. I believe that the reference model by size and characteristics is the Losi Baja Rey, I have one and I love it just like my UDR. The Baja Rey once you tune up the damping and change the tires (I'm wearing Louise Uphill) it runs great and is incredibly reliable. The most reliable of the cars I have. It's not cheap but it's worth every single one of the €529 it costs here. The 1002 S is €345 but even though it is an important difference, I would not change it for the reputed quality of Losi. Good video and greetings

[@TheCabledawg1]

I agree. I'll take a Losi over this or a Traxxas.

[@createsomefun]

You are really missing out dismissing these trucks. They are made in the same factories and are very good

[@TheCabledawg1]

@@createsomefun Did you see how that brick drove? It was horrible. No thank you. There are much better RC vehicles out there.

[@PhantomMark]

@@TheCabledawg1 I have the Losi BR v2 and the UDR, they both offer different things and bring their own joys IMO ?

[@calebprescott9822]

Can someone please tell me why KZbinrs and reviewers never give the freaking price. Why do they always have to give us the run around saying "it's expensive" and "it's cheaper". I just want a number.

[@Lord_Pistachio_Nut]

So like, click the link in the description before you watch the video.....then you get the price lol. You new here bub?

[@jujishouazhun]

Emm… it’s made in China , and it costs about 1300 RMB in taobao, I owned one also, and it can upgrade to be the same as the black one.

[@squaddingquads]

From personal experience I find quoting a price bites you on the ass as they change all the time-and someone pre Relase products you don't always know the prices

[@sathos]

Videos are around for more than five minutes and prices change all the time

[@squaddingquads]

@sathos this

[@giddybots]

For me in the states, a base Slash 4x4 is $70 less at 299. The Slash 4x4 VXL is only a bit more than this at 399. Plus there's hobby shops all over the place that stock almost every part you could need for a Slash. My local shop even stocks a bunch of RPM parts for Traxxas. The ease of getting replacement parts is the main reason why I still pay for the name brands.

[@ghostinng274]

Still not a fan of Traxxas with the high prices.

[@smokeyrameriz478]

While I have Traxxas and a ton of Chinese RCs. I've never had problems getting parts for Chinese RCs. But, this right here is ridiculously priced. The cheaper version he's talking about is more expensive than the really nice upgraded version on Banggood. It's just doesn't make sense to me.

[@seanwilson9117]

But comparing this to a Slash is a bit off, closest thing to it in 1/10 scale is the Losi Baja Rey and that thing is amazing but also VERY expensive for 1/10

[@MustangsCanTurnToo]

I consider the Slash as the standard 1/10 truck. I bought one just to test it against my super upgraded Nikko Dictator. The Nikko wins everything except durability 😅

[@seanwilson9117]

@@MustangsCanTurnToo Omg. I had a Savage Dictator as a kid and was in love with that little 4.8v beast. Lol. The Slash is but it has the typical short course double wishbone suspension which is why I kinda separate it off from this but it is a pretty nerdy distinction to make. Lol

[@mikehagquist5198]

They took out everything that made it interesting

[@YoShImUrA53]

But nothing really that this type of RC needed, to be fair...

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah… but they could have at least changed the tyres 😅

[@YoShImUrA53]

@@TomleyRC I think reducing the costs were at the top of their priorities. So, if the previous tires endured abuse... Most owners of this will probably haven't had any previous experience with these type of RCs and won't be too bothered... Until they actually try a nice one, and then either get tires and dampers, or ditch this completely. 😬

[@createsomefun]

The boxes are always generic, that's why there is no upc. There are multiple trim levels the SELLER can order. The model number probably is not the same (which is what the box says). SG is usually the cheaper version. Hbx or ZD etc being the. high end

[@duncangallegos1775]

​@@TomleyRC make another video with different tires on it?

[@fielde11]

Honestly by design this is one of the best car set ups I've ever seen it's more realistic to me and that allows me to have more fun but some may have their own opinions but it looks fun minus the tires lol

[@andrewwadas2180]

Phil would U muck around with this and/or the original maybe for another video? Overhaul and tune it with stuff U have laying around already? Tires obviously but possibly a gyro, etc... Maybe go all out and one is a parts car. Gives RCers ideas of what can be done with a little tinkering. Thanks for the great videos as always.

[@kelevra558]

It's all preference for the driver. Personally, I run a spool which is 100% locked. Guys like Harley Letner and Robbie Gordon use a clutch pack style limited slip differential. Some guys use wavetrac, some guys even use an air locker still which is what I used to have in my truck before I upgraded. BTW that pinion angle would NEVER work on a full size truck. You have to find a happy medium between full droop and full bump or "compression"

[@nicks86gt1]

Yep, spool and an Evan Weller third member for me. Though next year we're going with a fortin or gear vendors under drive to drop ratios and get a little more tooth engagement from the pinion.

[@mitsuman5555]

The sliding around on pavement might seem annoying but it's better than traction rolling, which is all the UDR does.

[@TomleyRC]

yeah, I guess lol

[@stevenblair9454]

I think it's great that I I actually guessed the speed correct it was 35 miles an hour, I would say this truck is possibly good for beginner but then again probably not. Love the video Tomlin keep it up

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic truck, Phil! Awesome bashing and review!!! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@mattster197]

I have a bullet proof slash that I have modded from bumper to bumper, Only thing left on it stock are the servo and the chassis lol. I have decided that from now on I am just buying the chassis and adding all the parts cause I just upgrade them anyway. Wait til you see my Comical Grasshopper. Have you made one?

[@Pablo668]

Yeah, I think for companies putting out competing cars with the big guys they are going to have to provide something at par or better for the money just to break into the market. They are also competeing against the name brands with people like me who often go the 2nd hand route (at least when the prices are a bit more sane).

[@mikehansen9898]

I feel like the low traction tires are intentional. Saves on the slipper and other driveline components on high traction surfaces.

[@malky525]

That needs some work like most. Trailing arm trucks are a different animal. Need power up your sleave in the corners. There is a thing called to much traction with them also. But be weary of the massive weight transfer they have. I love them. Have udr, twin hammers,yeti,bomber and baja rey.

[@davidburke5686]

Interesting rig, I didn’t notice with the first video but I have a UDI racing desert racer which is a ssv version of this, same layout, same hard tyres same difficulty controlling it until I realised it has stability control, which I turned off, handles way better now.

[@praetor47]

you have the 1001? tell more more, it's on my shortlist :)

[@Pshady]

Good for you giving a real honest review. If a none RC car expert parent is buying an RC car for their child as a present they don’t want to have the bad experience of a an impossible to control car which doesn’t live up to the speeds which the box claims.

[@GodStink]

I got one. Cost ¥45,000 from AE while a Losi Baja Rey was ¥110,00 I’m stoked with it-goes good enough for me. Run four battery sets through it so far… turning the steering down as I turn the power up helps a lot Split the body already, jumped straight into a tree. The tires are ok, slide nice on concrete too but I’ve buckled the rims from flipping it 😂 So, what is it a copy of? Going to need some spares eventually. Or now 😂

[@doubledome2076]

I had high hopes, but think the senton would be a better choice like you said. Another great standard setter video! ...hmmm... the Tomley SS‼️🤘👍👍🦾🦾

[@dixie8329]

Discovered your channel a few weeks ago and now super addicted to your videos 😂 👍

[@wyt_boi]

Hello! Thank you for the review of this "cheap" version! Can you tell me if it's XT60 for batteries on both please? Thank you ✌️

[@Fixingeverthingwithaengine567]

Trophy trucks run 40s up front and 38s on the back. The front axle is wider for control ability on the dunes.

[@ismanapribadi8842]

I think its good starting point at least for me who doesn't want to spend alot of money for this hobby, i would later upgrade the suspension and it'll run way better. I always love throphy truck style rc but they're so expensive, I'll take this as consideration. Thanks for for this video

[@chrishorst1318]

There is really no need for 8 shox in truth.

[@tim0339]

Did you end up doing it

[@ismanapribadi8842]

@@tim0339 always, im cheap, just having fun not really going hardcore😀

[@westcoastrider3008]

I just got a vrx blast2.0 roller, only down I can say about it is plastic drive shaft u-joint broke. Was 109 canadian pesos for a roller chassis.

[@k3v1n-_-77]

No Alan Key lol I was waiting for the ground hog to to say Alan! Alan!. 😂

[@watkinz999]

Your videos have kept me sane the last 3 weeks so thanks for that, I snapped my collar bone crawling accident (long story) so have been house bound after surgery can't wait to go out soon and I'm looking into my 1st mid price range 1/10 off road basher with a good amount of speed what would you recommend ?

[@ThEtEcHnOsAm]

Most Trophy Trucks are RWD with a locked diff. Although 4WD has become more common over the past few years with new tech

[@TipoftheMitt69]

A lot of shade being thrown at the little guy but it looks great. With a few upgrades (that most will do anyways) it’s probably on par with about everything else.

[@vbspeed7571]

Sweet paint job..looks like a losi rhino 🤟

[@Humble444]

Lol, tires are ice skating litterally😂

[@Harry-of4nw]

What would be cool is if you do a modification video where u upgrade the steering,gearbox and wheels

[@wordreet]

On the advert page it says it has a gyro, Shirley that means it shouldn’t slide around so much, or it can be adjusted?

[@ghostinng274]

The rear axels on trophy trucks or stadium trucks or whatever you call them, they're always locked. So technically this one is more realistic.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes I thought they may have been. Tyres… the major let down on this

[@ghostinng274]

@@TomleyRC yea, they didn't look like they were all that good lol

[@benhaywood2510]

Reminded me of “Samir… you’re breaking the car”…! 😂

[@createsomefun]

Trim level is specified by the seller for the most part when ordering from the factory. Look at remo, you can order the ultimate version which isnt even listed on the SCT box (it is a model above the TOP)

[@roblowrie1969]

Looks like the FTX Zorro (brushed), or Axial Yeti underneath, with that chassis design. The Zorro has a locked rear axle, and handles much better than that. Looks great though. 😎👍🏻

[@mangler.m4950]

Put Senton tires or Slash tires on it. Or maybe, a "Make this bad truck good," episode. I would like to see you unlock the trucks potential.

[@tobydyes]

yes most trophy trucks have a solid diff

[@ericchristopher9037]

G’day Phil, this truck looks alright. You just need new wheels on it and some oil for the shocks. That should help it. Love the show Phil, keep up the good work. 🤓🇦🇺

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers Eric.. appreciate it

[@ThompsonRc]

I was thinking about getting this glad I waited. Great review

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate

[@rayxxkaiser3586]

I find this rc car price very economic and perhaps I will buy one in the future. Thanks for your sharing Tomley❤, but please don't drive your car too fast😂😂😂. This car has a center diff and front diff! Look decent.

[@craigpimlott204]

Open diffs on trophy trucks or locked depending what they’re used on .and usually 2wd .

[@kyleteal5888]

As for your diff question it is a setup thing. So it changes from team to team

[@Marky-dt9xk]

I really like the location, is that based near Cambridge

[@BeardRubEnjoyer]

Arrma Senton 3S, chuck a Pro Line VW body on it, absolute blast of a truck. I've never regretted that buy.

[@halmakenreuther8843]

With locked rear diff and those tires i would call it a drifter 😂😂😂

[@antwontwontwon2378]

Hows the G shock? I love the idea of a glow in the dark face on the ga2100!

[@MagnifiedGiant]

Any idea on how to bind the transmitter to the truck?

[@SharkysGarageRCandMore]

You bringing this to EAST ? Could be fun in the bashing area !

[@aarondavies8486]

Could you fit 2 shocks back on to make it look like the gray one help please

[@FeralRC]

Desert Truck "Lite" or "Sport". It has potential. Better IFS than Element has.

[@johnsalt19]

Hi phil the red udi version is the same price as the one you have there

[@ShaunMcCloud]

Can you bind it to another transmitter and keep the stability control system?

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

If you had to pick between this or an arma senton, which would you go with?

[@6132-k1n]

Senton is somewhat of a safe bet (unless you go with the brushed, which sucks) but the senton is not a realistic/scale looking tuck. I love mine but it’s a basher first. Depends what you prefer

[@BelowTheHardDeckDoesNotCount]

Great review! Thank you.

[@bacongl]

It has potential for sure. But wow those tires are terrible. Shocks probably need a rebuild with green slime to keep them from leaking, new oil, maybe springs. That locked rear diff is going to make the turning circle wide. I would swap it out. Much better driving experience. Other than that looks decent. I would still go with a Mojave. Parts availability is a thing.

[@TomleyRC]

It could be so much better. Same as always… they fail to test them or at least get someone in the company to test them that knows what they are doing

[@lightspeed_0680]

Hi, i know this isn’t anything to do with the video but i was wondering if you could do a review of the updated mn models mn99s 🤞

[@paulbarnett7196]

put on better tyres and thicker oil in the shocks, and sounds like it could be a half decent starting basher

[@tobydyes]

huge tuna circle because of the lock differential

[@TheMdavis07]

Tuna circle lol 😂😆 please don't edit this it's hilarious. And you're right yes lock differential can make things kind of difficult when you're trying to have a lot of maneuverability good for rock crawlers not good for bashers

[@aljensen7779]

You know when you get a word stuck in your head (an ear worm)? For me it's been Rlarrlo ever since you did that video. It's worth it though because your normally reserved self took like a sheet to the wind when you so earnestly uttered an 'Oh Shit' when you crashed it. It was a beautiful moment & the truck needed it.

[@TomleyRC]

hahaha... I usually edit out language like that, but it was so much better with it left in

[@TekRant6781]

when are you going to race the mini cxd cars?

[@ARRSEY-RC]

In my experience a locked rear diff is no good ... put it in the front then go again i bet you a large coffee it will be a difrent car .

[@rustafar_2354]

Great video Phil , They should of named it "Not Aven any of It " 😉🤣🤣

[@TomleyRC]

hahahaha

[@momentarylapsofreason]

if it comes hear under the udi brand and parts are easily available and its priced at say £250/£300 then id say its worth a shout

[@andrewburtschin3553]

Will UDR parts fit on it?

[@ocularcavity8412]

Great Vid dude XD I am still undecided on this truck I REALLY liked the transmission so I am disappointed they removed it (SIGH) I thing they put the hard tires on to keep it from traction rolling on pavement and I would rather the car slide than flip but it appears they went to far it takes a delicate balance the UDR's tire feel like they are close to Ideal a little too grippy out the box but are better after they are worn in I save a bald set for pavement and grass runs. I still run my Yeti Score with a 2 speed but I am running out of spares and would like a 10th scale trophy truck but I DON'T want a Baja Rey because it doesn't have a 2 speed and it killed the Yeti and they were different enough that Horizon shouldn't have cancelled it after the Acquisition

[@Ahmed91]

Hello, I think it can handle 4S

[@anarochrc986]

How do you like it tomley?

[@ricardosilva4036]

So the real question is this better than vrx RH1045sc V2.0

[@N_Fortune]

Ouch! Looked undriveable on ALL surfaces, has a turning radius worse than a public bus. Banggood's Monday morning staff meeting: "ok guys, back to the drawing board...AGAIN!"

[@namok-wx6xn]

you guys have any knowledge on why my rcmart order comes so slow I ordered it 1 week ago

[@jaystarmini]

Rather have the ftx apache. I no different chassis design underneath. Saying that dr8 is tempting me more this weather

[@TomleyRC]

Yes Apache or DR8 or Brushless Zorro.. all worth considering

[@winksley1981]

The dr8 is a great car....you do need to change the tyres but after that is a rocket

[@jaystarmini]

Have a mt10 so wanting something to tag along with. Think dr8 could be it! Keep the videos coming tomley

[@Razdawg22]

​@@TomleyRCdo you know of any ftx distributors that sell to USA?

[@OldeSchoolRcUk]

Tbh Trophy truck wise I’m more than hello worth my 6s Mojave. Might just make it 8s but all in all I’m chuffed with how tough it is to. So thanks buddy but i won’t be rushing out to buy one Thankyou 😊

[@TomleyRC]

Mojave is an awesome truck 👌

[@OldeSchoolRcUk]

@@TomleyRC yea blx 6s atm I do have an 8s system that I think is going to be imminently installed at some Point Phil

[@gicungduoc3860]

is the zd mx07 still good mate?

[@seanwilson9117]

Off topic, but looking at this got me looking around Banggood. Have you seen the HBX 2996a? Looks like a 1/10 version of the 16889a pro. If it is, I'm kinda sold on it. Might go ahead and order 'cause it's like $160.

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, doesn’t look to bad for the price!

[@MagnifiedGiant]

The battery tray is tiny on that HBX 2996a. Looks like a deal killer for me on that one.

[@seanwilson9117]

@@MagnifiedGiant I did notice that but for under $200 I might deal. Lol

[@MagnifiedGiant]

@@seanwilson9117 Yeah it is probably fun for a few minutes!!

[@6-Iron]

A locked diff is a bad thing?

[@kittyztigerz]

i would like to point this out because of rear stock is so bad can cause front end lost tracking which why leads you sliding all over the place if you can beast up rear stocks them will make big different because i own few off road rc 1/8 and 1/10 and i have noticed mine was doing it because rear end hit ground cause front come off the ground not touch it and just slide all over the place and after beasting up rear stock it make big different keep front end down

[@tyebraun]

The tires are legitimately like trying to drive on plastic drift wheels. Lol

[@TomleyRC]

Yup… and it was exactly the same last time I tested one. Maybe they should watch my videos before releasing a new one 😅

[@MagnifiedGiant]

@@TomleyRC You would think when you pointed out the obvious flaw with the tires that they might fix that issue.

[@ortonscustoms2577]

Is this at ruddington country park chap?

[@geetee7154]

Great review as always Phil, I don't think I'll be swapping my Traxxas Slash anytime soon though. 😊

[@phuque2ho]

slides around not cuz locked dif.. no gyro lol my udr is not stock electronics.. i use my non gyro.. & better than open difs.. only front open on udr.. center & rear are both locked

[@16jan1986]

Locked rear diff should be better on gravel

[@009ADVENTURES]

shame because I really like the look of it especially the colour scheme 👍

[@robertruiz5417]

Locked rear diff is trash if drive on to asphalt roll over happens

[@FarmerFpv]

That is more of a copy of the Losi Baja Rey with UDR looking body. The Traxass UDR is much different. Is it a UDi-Baja? lol

[@grahamjacob710]

Serious case of cutting production costs

[@TomleyRC]

agree

[@createsomefun]

I can assure you the model number is not the same.

[@AbsoluteAutoandRC]

You and those dam tire stickers lol looms good bud

[@SiuroRC]

I think the front lights look funny because they’re upside down IMO😅

[@Matthew-u3r]

I was gonna say something about that! Lol

[@onemansvideos2134]

Plastic or alaluminum wheels?

[@jonahfastre]

Yeah I’ll stick to my UDR tbh

[@craigpoer]

Reminds me of a crap axial I owned for about a week. Still good ooking

[@adamwolfy4826]

Im looking forward to team associateds new sct coming soon 😁

[@MagnifiedGiant]

I just checked it out. They know how to make good looking RC vehicles, why did they have to make this new SCT so Fugly!!! I was so excited to hear they were making a new model and then I see that ugly thing. I imagine it works great but dang it just so plain ugly. Seems it is only two wheel drive as well.

[@vhoknoyvelasco6877]

Hello good day nice video new subscriber here I bought a second hand of this and I broke the front metal CVD and I don't know where to find the exact size I don't have also the manual hope you can help me😅 thanks

[@RCvapor]

Such a shame, i reckon with some mods, i.e better shocks and tyres, could be a great truck. Nice overview 👌

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I think I might do that to the first one I had with 8 shocks

[@RCvapor]

@@TomleyRC look forward to seeing that 👍

[@dustinfowler7868]

A Chinese guy is putting those headlight stickers on upside down,and possible opposite sides.😅

[@tobydyes]

you should try on the beach

[@AllForFootball365]

thank you my bro for your reply

[@Raptor50aus]

Pass I'll stick with my Slash Ultimate.

[@andrewmagro7703]

definitely Nah Phil , go with Traxxas or Arrma thanks for sharing this expensive turd with us all and clearly💯Not going to add this to the collection. cheers

[@blasterbear336]

I think the head lights look weird because you put them on the wrong side and upside down

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I tried them the other way and I thought they looked even worse

[@midnight_gamer6454]

hey tomley can you turn a toy rc car into a hobbygrade rc car

[@createsomefun]

add shocks