This laptop was ALMOST great! - MSI Summit E13 Flip Evo

[@sowimdp31plus40]

"bigger touchpad" Are you sure that the touchpad is not made with golden ratio in mind, too? 😂

[@TECHNICKER_Cz]

So I wasn't the only one thinking that XD

[@loop5720]

If it doesn't, this laptop a damn scam

[@raccoon2276]

if being funny = confused, im a professional comedian, whats golden ratio bruh

[@raawesome3851]

@@raccoon2276 a jojo reference.

[@elijah_9392]

@@raccoon2276 The golden ratio a pattern noticed in nature. It is considered geometrically "perfect". Consider the fibbanachi (I spelled thag wrong) sequence. 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21 etc.. The ratio between each of the numbers get's prigressively more refined. 8/5 = 1.6 13/8 = 1.625 21/13 = 1.61 Etc. Math is cool :)

[@random_n]

Ah yes, IIISI, such a great professional brand!

[@ImperiaGin]

I couldn't even tell it was MSI thought it was a off brand company or something

[@tanmayd9873]

and the weird thing is HP did the same thing with their logo as well , it looks like lı|ı

[@Nib_Nob-t7x]

He said twice Msi before he even opened it

[@loop5720]

@@Nib_Nob-t7x dude, we know.

[@lespaul1631]

351

[@sixunity1171]

"16:10" is the golden ratio My 2008 16:10 Monitor : "My time to shine"

[@Carlosanta15]

Dell U2412m rep

[@LyricsFred]

@@lexecomplexe4083 for a moment I was like whats so great about 16:10 (I thought you were giving a timestamp of the video for a second)😂😂😂, I even own a 16:10 laptop 🙄🙄🙄😂😂😂

[@sujimayne]

But 32:9 is the diamond ratio

[@jyothishkumar3098]

@@waldolemmer 16:g

[@jyothishkumar3098]

@@sujimayne ratio

[@craesh]

The desktop background with the spiral looks like the default one of any Debian distro from the past 20 years!

[@thanosal-titan]

That is the golden ratio spiral

[@Leoappeared]

@@thanosal-titan you can call it that, but it’s also just the Fibonacci sequence

[@Lachz10]

The Fibanacci sequence and the golden ratio are basically synonymous since the golden ratio is just any physical, or visual, representation of the Fibanacci sequence. The golden ratio is not incorrect. So yeah you can call it either of these two. I’d argue however m the golden ratio is more correct, in this context anyway, since it’s to do with geometry and not the numerical sequence (which you can’t represent in any finite space since it’s infinite).

[@thanosal-titan]

@@Leoappeared It's the same thing. Golden ratio spiral is the visualization of the Fibonacci sequence

[@robergarcia11]

@@Leoappeared It actually is the golden ratio, the Fibonacci sequence is the string of numbers that follows the same geometric pattern of the golden ratio

[@staffie85]

I need the marketing person who wrote the "Golden ratio" marketing to do the words for my tombstone 🤣

[@ElJuicetin]

He was a good man, and also he did good things, yet he was not bad.

[@ullasbabu1732]

“Choosing the person to do my tombstone - no other regrets”

[@HeyKai]

I feel like that person just learned about the golden ratio and wants to have all things golden ratio. and I do mean ALL THE THINGS

[@jemiebridges3197]

@@HeyKai Getting the same vibes from that Rick & Morty meme, "This is Level"

[@tanmayd9873]

even the MSI logo redesign looks like what HP recently did

[@davidrajchman7162]

Yeah right, i havent noticed it but you are right, they have ripped HP off and made it worse, how do you manage to do that.... This makes MSI look even worse as a premium laptop brand, they should stick to gaming stuff

[@Revision_General]

Love the golden Minecraft sword in the background to symbolise the golden ration

[@VladimirJovanov]

The golden WHAT

[@Astropup5000]

@@VladimirJovanov it's a military thing

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

@@Astropup5000 what the fuk is a golden ration??? Is it a ration that fits within a golden ratio tray???

[@Astropup5000]

@@shanedoesyoutube8001 exactly lol

[@7grand-dad900]

I saw the golden spin on the thumbnail, I’m interested.

[@hikarinogami4990]

Here to unalive Mr. President Hilarious Romantic Day too?

[@sharathkrishnan7403]

🤣🤣🤣

[@mohammadgamaslazuardi6438]

U mean the golden scale??

[@ip11542]

Something spinning but I don't know what

[@raawesome3851]

@@h3nry_t122 yeah... I think it had a guy who couldn't walk, and was in a wheelchair...

[@ZNotFound]

8:51 "Apparently their webcam is good" Camera quality looks like it's from a decade ago. (Like most laptop cameras)

[@DeadpoolPlayz]

Well , i guess its good in the laptop world?

[@raawesome3851]

@@DeadpoolPlayz no. That's a MacBook. That has the best 720p camera.

[@loop5720]

Ngl to me it looks good, like a decent Samsung S7 edge camera

[@filiperocha4025]

@@raawesome3851 MacBook camera looks like crap compared to my surface book.

[@raawesome3851]

@@filiperocha4025 that's true. But for 720p cameras, the MacBook has the best.

[@robertvantine2810]

3:05 Alex: [waves digital pen over quick start guide] "I solemnly swear I'm up to no good..."

[@ChaiTimeDataScience]

These videos have become so much nicer. I love how it feels lesser "Oh I'm watching an expert influencer talk about X" instead, more like a laidback discussion I'd have with my friend about a product (I'm a nerd, a lot of our discussions cover grounds similar to reviews) So Thanks ShortCircuit for giving us these!

[@loop5720]

I know right, dude these tech youtubers are killing me, they're all the same and cringe, trying so hard to be professional with their REALLLLLY REALLY SHARP 8K CAMERA WITH MOODY LIGHTING. Especially the ones with glasses. I love ShortCircuit videos

[@ChaiTimeDataScience]

@@loop5720 On that note-I just realised no one at LMG wears glasses, I think? LOL

[@pannedandcanned]

@@ChaiTimeDataScience Brandon, andy and dennis all wear glasses.

[@ChaiTimeDataScience]

@@pannedandcanned Oh yes! How could I forget! :(

[@liberusmagnus]

"This laptop was almost great" *proceeds to basically roast it for 14 minutes straight* Edit: guys I didn't want to roast him... mine was just an observation, probably the editor didn't understand really what Alex was saying since they don't use actual scripts for short circuit and gave it a bad title...

[@OnlySourSauce]

Dude I am not a fan of this guy's opinion at all. He always does this and such a nitpicker about everything and really shoehorns his specific taste only instead of what a general users may want to consider

[@ImperiaGin]

@@OnlySourSauce you would do that for something that costs $1800.

[@Raz0rsedg3]

@@OnlySourSauce I would say if its as expensive as it is, "nitpicking" it is completely justified.

[@liberusmagnus]

@@OnlySourSauce well, this laptop is priced way higher than his competitors and it is worse... you can't blame him for complaining so bad

[@wh1ff78]

Yea, why should bother to create that title anyway I really get annoyed fast after 3 minutes watching this

[@ryanb6503]

I like to imagine that's also Alex's response to the map on a road trip

[@mikkelbreiler8916]

Plot twist. On an actual road trip he studies maps on a laptop.

[@oshwaflz]

watching this on my 1500 dollar hp spectre lmao. love the 3:2 ratio

[@seansleee]

At this point I genuinely believe that we’re gonna go back to a 4:3 ratio for “more vertical space”. I also feel like there’s going to be back and forth battle from 16:9 to 4:3 as people want more space on either side lmao

[@zimbu_]

Golden Ratio™

[@seansleee]

@@chrissieblossom Yeah... to that I simply say get a monitor with more pixels so you can expand in both directions. You could also get a larger screen in terms of length if people want it to feel physically larger. Imo this would be a better solution to “more vertical” or “more horizontal” space thing.

[@Nightykk]

@@chrissieblossom Very few games I run into these days that doesn't support 21:9. Sure, at times you get some HUD issues like cutscenes being made for 16:9, and it showing a picture outside of some 16:9 overlay, but it's really not that bad. For productivity I'm uncertain if I'll be able to go back to not having two "full-screen" applications next to one another, without either feeling squished. Gaming is fine though. Any modern title is a non-issue, and even older titles have very little issues.

[@deokureta108]

@@seansleee i've been working with 3:2 screens for 2 years and i now hate it haha i can't explain it but i think it has to be with when you try to put one window on the left and one on the right or something (i use linux and windows btw)

[@lazyreuvin]

"This laptop is nowhere near good enough for the price..." There, fixed your heading.

[@arnox4554]

MSI thinking they're Apple here.

[@narwhal4304]

@@arnox4554 Ironic that Apple's Macbooks are now the better value.

[@thinnedpaints6503]

Jesus wtf, nearly 2K for a quad core, what year is it?

[@MidlifePanda]

the moment he said ".. with an intel 11700" ... i was like ... NOPE

[@IcyGeez1337]

IKR I just commented this... $1900 for a quad core with integrated graphics, shitty camera and a shitty keyboard, and a screen that flops over... Not a fucking chance you are getting any business done on that 😂

[@winonesoon9771]

and no fucking gpu holy shit.....................!!

[@DerekDavis213]

You are paying for a *fast* quad core, with premium screen, and very good integrated gpu. Most people have ZERO need for 6+ cores on a 13" laptop.

[@shayan-gg]

@@DerekDavis213 oh yeah? most people didn't need 256mb ram in 90's

[@AHarmlessPyro]

I was kinda genuinely sad when alex said that he's willing to give up a type A in exchange for a larger trackpad. That's a damn tiny trackpad and I'm not sure any meaningful changes could be made to it's size without pushing the keyboard up so much that the edges of the laptop don't dig into my wrists. Plus having a type A without worrying about a dongle makes life so much better.

[@Rikorage]

I'll agree with that, but small usb-a to usb-c adapters are so commonplace at this point, that it's not that much of an issue anymore. Having the trackpad be big enough to use on the go is something that a device like this would benefit more from. In all honesty, if you're using this on a desktop, as a potential desktop replacement, you will be buying a dock to supplement the ports lost anyways. However, what this thing offers versus what you could get with the price is so off-putting that there is no way that anyone could justify that cost. If they were to compete with HP using their own designs, the point would be that they need to undercut HP in order for them to get people to buy this at all, this would only be for someone who even has an idea to look for this, but most people would more likely buy an Apple product if they were into this kind of vanity opulence range.

[@jaq_vg]

Damn, they weren’t lying when they say that everything is a JoJo reference.

[@kreeziethef7613]

it's not a lie :)

[@sidsullivan4888]

Thank god someone else mentioned it. Didn't wanna be that guy calling out the spin and the golden ratio.

[@Mewingisgood1]

Kono Dio da

[@filiphonegr6462]

This is truly a Golden Experience.

[@shayan-gg]

@@Mewingisgood1 kono Giorno Giovanni umega aru

[@FelixIakhos]

Watching this on an HP Spectre, that laptop looks familiar

[@loop5720]

Kinda reminds me of the Asus 13 something laptop

[@021ritvik]

1:57 the sound of opening the box just syncs up with the background music. Wow!

[@jacobcollier7194]

no it doesnt lmao

[@kortaffel]

Yo Alex, did you know that you can move KZbin videos frame by frame forward with period and comma? If you want to sync up the crab rave, this might be handy

[@ArchaicAce]

You should check out the 12th gen Summit E14, I’ve had mine a while now and it seems like they fixed a lot of the things you mentioned, like the keyboard, and track pad is bigger. Also the screen is more solid I couldn’t get mine to just fall over like that.

[@OlederBaer]

1:56 so satisfaying that the drop hits with the box 🔥

[@JustAGlitchFL]

We need a yt short of just golden ratio memes

[@RandomL0s3r]

We have Jojo Part 7 for that

[@jupitercoyote348]

Steel ball run

[@kreeziethef7613]

Thank you.. Gyro...

[@Wedgebean]

*cri*

[@PR0XIDIAN]

MSI always strikes me as a computer brand that was designed by someone who has never heard of a computer before, and had someone describing it to them through a solo cup on a string.

[@jonathanjoestarjojolion98]

The thunbnail: THE LAPTOP IS A SPIN USER

[@danielwoods7325]

They even ripped off the wedges in the stylised HP logo - look at the weird M in MSI. How blatant is that lol!!

[@charredolive]

This man really pulled out another laptop to read the product page of the other laptop

[@zanewolf2509]

I think we should expect RAM slots on this one. There are dell laptops with the same cpu along with RAM slots and an M.2 slot, which btw cost less than $1500.

[@hunfules99]

3:11 Hello Budapest! (that's the building of the main circus in the background)

[@agbwow]

Gyro Zeppeli is spinning with excitement

[@amp_cackl]

Can you start including m1 MacBooks in these comparisons?

[@hi-vt2wt]

Only problem is M1 is wayyy out of their league + tbf windows is the best comparison rather than a completely different OS

[@ahyaan2552]

@@hi-vt2wt yeah thats a valid point

[@darthashpie]

M1 MacBooks are now way out of league for these laptops considering the price

[@CamoGirlPlayz]

Just got it for $999 from Costco and I use it every day for college. Killer deal for a smoking laptop!

[@simbac]

That flimsy screen hinge would drive me insane. Instant deal breaker right there.

[@vulpixgamer6126]

THE THUMBNAIL HAS THE GOLDEN RECTANGLE FROM STEEL BALL RUN IN THE JOJO MANGA

[@Ayulax]

SHORTCIRCUIT WAS THE THUMBNAIL A JOJO REFERENCE BRUV

[@geri904]

Maybe im one of the few hungarians who are watching you , but i was shocked when i realized at 3:10 our parliament in Budapest :D Cheers guys, nice touch :D

[@aadeshsenthilkumar]

Alex, I just saw the new 2022 model at costco with the new i7-1280P (a 14 core monster on paper). It's on sale for $999 I think it's a tasty deal if the cooling can handle it.

[@IGotCurbstomped]

I'm looking at this deal right now as well. Insanely low price for a 1280p w/ 1TB of hard drive space. Still thinking about spending up for a Lenovo or even an XPS maybe because of the cons mentioned in this video. Tough choice.

[@aadeshsenthilkumar]

@@IGotCurbstomped Yeah u saw how tiny those fans were. I think the CPU would keeo thermal throttling. I have a Thinkpad X13 Gen 2 AMD, and it's a nice compact machine, though i miss some upgradability.

[@davidrodebaugh2023]

Can't wait for Alex's opinions on the Microsoft surface laptop 4!

[@ThatOneOddGuy]

I love watching videos of things I can't afford

[@mobarkdosari989]

Yeah same

[@souravghosh3358]

Me too

[@arnox4554]

This is pretty much par for the course for ShortCircuit. Always super expensive items.

[@ThatOneOddGuy]

@@arnox4554 I'm maybe writing a literature test tomorrow on Shakespeare's hamlet And maybe a poem Good thing they let us bring notes so I'm spending my ink supply on photocopying all my notes from my book I regret my decisions already

[@jpjapers]

10:02 - Crab Rave See you at the next alex laptop review.

[@Thirdleg4sale]

I just bought the msi ge 66 with a Rtx 3070....it is my first gpu since the gt 570. I am truly at loss for words at how fast it is. Its my first pc that was not a hand me down.

[@guilhemjusserand3205]

I feel you, just got a "new" gpu (a 1650 from msi), after using an hd prebuilt gpu from 2008, mannnnnn the SPEED is insane, I can't even imagine how getting a 3070 would feel like.

[@Tommy-the-coffee-addict]

Sounds awesome,make sure high hz is enabled,it sometimes,sometimes it isnt on these laptops

[@Thirdleg4sale]

@@Tommy-the-coffee-addict lol was the first thing i checked and 240 was enabled by default. Playing overwatch at 120 plus fps is a crazy change for me

[@TheGodOfAllThatWas]

I really really think the side by sides with the dell were super helpful.

[@BriefNerdOriginal]

"The LG Gram exists". Could have been the title of the review 😁

[@aaronfox9145]

Every time Alex makes a video, It's just sooo much better than anyting else.

[@nolanainsworth]

I love laptop short curcuits

[@7orque]

Had an HP Spectre, using the microsd port to expand documents storage etc (work stuff) was actually very handy. Wish it was present on more machines.

[@privacyadvisor]

You just killed them..... And I love it..

[@lenaf443]

Love your reviews. Very objective and helpful!

[@rajanbhateja6844]

Love Alex reviewing laptops. He's a genius when it comes to laptops.

[@jasonluculence4467]

I like him, but jarrods tech and dave2d r better

[@onepiecepedia]

Just rewatched the Surface Laptop 3 unboxing/review from last year and can't wait to see Alex gets his hands on it!!

[@baijokull]

I'd always prefer the usb to a bigger trackpad but that's mainly because I almost never use the trackpad on my work laptop since I always carry a mouse in my briefcase.

[@scudsturm1]

i have an old 16:10 monitor here from Samsung that is probably 10 years old or more, it still works

[@LelandHasGames]

"I don't expect a 13 inch to beat out a 15 inch" That's what she said.

[@ZeroToWealthRedistribution]

The different camera angles doesn’t change the low energy tone BANG BANG, BOOM

[@notaaimbot3662]

LMG: man they really like the golden ratio Me: Man msi must have some real part 7 fans in their office.

[@rocker10039]

an xps chassis eith hardware like rtx 3080, ryzen 5800h and 300hz screen with 1-3ms response times, is loke a dream machine

[@deepsenpai6871]

that sponsor what i was thinking about lol because of that magnet cable.

[@Voltaic_Fire]

It's too thin, too many sacrifices have been made.

[@ashercoates4345]

Are y'all gonna do a short circuit on the Galaxy book pro 360?

[@electricmiragemedia]

Great first-look. Nice job focusing on the important details

[@km6832]

What i find interesting about alex is he always talks about laptops almost being great, but never actually says what or how he would put together his perfect laptop

[@rjcard2690]

Well it’s pretty simple buddy, companies send short circuit their laptops to get reviewed and Alex has reviewed lots of laptops, as he stated multiple times in the video he’s obviously comparing the MSI laptop to other laptops he’s done reviews on. So if you want to go and waste 1800 dollars on another overpriced msi laptop then please be my guest

[@djhokage1]

Probably an XPS15 with a better screen.

[@Tendeza_]

@@djhokage1 xps' screens are already really good, you could improve it's speakers or port-selection, than you'd be close to a "perfect" laptop imo.

[@ahyaan2552]

@@rjcard2690 heh i feel bad for some buisness to accidentally swap their x1 carbons for that

[@zackglenn2847]

He's a reviewer, not an OEM or system integrator. Talking about the pros and cons of the laptops he's given is the whole idea.

[@JAK_EDITS.]

I wanna be alex’s friend so bad dude, he just seems friendly..

[@Lonelemon]

"Microsoft makes great pen" - me as an artist who find wiggliness while drawing 😤

[@charliemaybe]

im glad that they have a usb port because if you are a professional, you are using a mouse and at that point, a dedicated usb is so nice. You also dont need a trackpad as much

[@metallurgico]

Me seeing the thumbnail: Black Than White are All I see In my infancy Red And Yellow then came to be Reaching out to me Let me see

[@startedtech]

1:35 I got a leather sleeve with my MSI prestige laptop I bought in 2019.

[@joemarais7683]

Mmm 40% more than equivalent thin and lights, I expect nothing less from msi.

[@andremartinez418]

How are they gonna pay their employers to pressure smaller review channels without that markup?

[@cassie.minimalist]

I have this laptop and I just bought it because someone was selling it for half the price (new, because he bought it on amazon price error). For this price it is awesome. I don't see the same cons as you, for me I just don't like how it gets super hot quickly.

[@aman-sood]

When you are so early that there are no fun comments to read-

[@Voyajer.]

OneNote is a great program to test pens with IME. It supports pressure and tilting.

[@mercuryzam]

finally, the perfect laptop to bring along with you for a horserace across America which is just a coverup for the President to find the body of Jesus Christ

[@gabrielebursi5509]

Oh come on this is a spoiler man!

[@dontask9002]

Alex is great at this.

[@iana.3388]

"I don't expect a 13-inch to beat out a 15-inch." ... that's what she said 🙈

[@skizzarz]

solid review!

[@zephaniahkhongjee581]

Is that a JoJo reference???

[@badi1220]

Perhaps

[@Ikxi]

Good job looking at the quick start quide, even if it's stuff you know Never know when there is something different

[@raawesome3851]

This feels like a Jojo reference

[@aelaan12]

Nice review!

[@caliqm2199]

Goddamn it,the found the way to instantly make me click on the video: A Jojo's reference in the thumbnail!

[@vyomdirt]

Yes. The golden ratio was indeed invented by JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.

[@TheTechAdmin]

3:10 This guy really needs to repair his relationship with his father.

[@LegitPick]

They are all commenting “FIRST” but as soon as they refresh it, everyone is saying “FIRST” lol

[@tipoomaster]

That looks SO much like modern HP designs. Are they sharing a chassis, or just some good old design borrowing?

[@David-gn8rn]

In few years or so, people will definitely be kicking themselves in regret for missing the opportunity to buy and invest in cryptocurrency.

[@johnsonmark1360]

Investing in cryptocurrency and other altcoins now, are the best lucrative way of making money now

[@AndroidDigest]

People need to stop pushing down on the keyboard deck to test how sturdy it is. You can clearly see in the video that the screen itself is what's resting on the bottom of the table. So he's pressing down on a keyboard dock that is lifted up above the table... Of course it's going to sightly go up and down

[@theinfluenceatl]

Congrats to everyone who is early and who found this comment ✨

[@anarchangel7]

that color on the trim is super clean tho

[@scottg7321]

Hp is such an underrated laptop maker

[@NeonVisual]

The irony that the golden ratio wallpaper is blocked by the task bar.

[@knowk5737]

was searching smash summit 13 and youtube took me here. to my suprise its also EVO so cool.

[@JamesScholesUK]

That hinge is gonna age out reeeeeaaal fast

[@baguette4425]

Everyones gonna be surprised when the laptop spins and releases an invisible energy

[@Aniumo]

its so nice to see someone not glaze on every product they get there hands on

[@jody.lumbantoruan]

04:34 that is so smooth

[@RiseUpToYourAbility]

This is why apple is so popular with the mass market. They charge premium prices, but their products feel premium. There is no flex to their chassis, the trackpad is amazing, the battery life is great, and the hinge feels really solid. The average Joe don't know the difference between memory and storage. They don't care about the technical specs of their computer as long as it can web browse and do text documents. Personally I use a macbook for work application, and I have a custom rig at home for gaming and photo editing.

[@TMM6900]

The background shelf reminds me of old kitchen, unboxing wall set

[@MarcusTheDorkus]

I burst out laughing when you pulled the laptop out. If it wasn't for the MSI logo I would thought it was an HP Spectre!

[@teawitkrispy7275]

the minute i knew this was msi i was expecting something ok for more than its worth

[@jillian9971]

Glad I watched til the end cause its on sale at Costco for $1300 now!