This Lifeweaver Is Convinced They're In ELO Hell | Overwatch 2 Spectating

[@cipherlight7522]

“I need to get out of here” is hilarious framing. Like, I can just picture Lifeweaver in a cage, clinging to the platinum bars and shaking them in desperation.

[@aepokkvulpex]

Platinum bars is an amazing detail in this metaphor lmao

[@sr.cabritopredador5130]

i imagine that one vid of squidward running with the fake J's (lifeweaver with plat shoes trying to run from rein)

[@CheGuava-fm5dq]

I started in OW I, I only climbed to plat but man, up to bronze 1, many good games. From silver, I felt like in ÉLŐ hell for these many years.

[@lumines.6622]

They complained about their tank but the Mauga just going in constantly and almost never dying for it is the reason they did as well as they did. The other team couldn't figure out what to do about him.

[@bendubz9000]

Their Ana deserves a lot of credit for that win. Whilst the LW didn't really try to adapt or playmake, the Ana noticed how their tank only had W binded, so took up aggressive positioning on attack to compliment that playstyle. That made Mauga into a raidboss getting consistent heals, and the enemy couldn't do anything about that until they had an Ana of their own to purple the Mauga

[@capwnzor9342]

As a Lifeweaver main, watching this vod was tough. From the gameplay I'm seeing, Plat is definitely where this person should be right now. There was nothing insane about their plays and I don't think they've actually gone back and watched it from an objective standpoint. They seem to think "we won, it was obviously because of me," and that can be a hard mindset for people to get over, praising yourself for team successes while lambasting your teammates for losses. And as you said, the Petal Platform usage was abysmal. I was almost yelling at the screen for them to use it in front of the firetruck on first point, or when his teammates were behind the wall after first point on defense, or to get up to second point high ground. So many opportunities to use it to great affect. Also, listening to emongg and chat discussing Petal Platform cooldown hurt my brain lol. The cooldown starts as soon as you use it, and the platform will last forever if no one steps on it for the entire game. If you stand on it the entire time it's up, it will last as long as your cooldown, so you'll have another one as soon as it breaks. The enemy team killing the platform has no effect on the cooldown, it is constant. The uptime of the platform is only reduced when it's used it to raise someone or if someone is actively standing on it.

[@juniorvazquez9169]

This guy's gold or silver at best, for sire teammates boosted him

[@kaijuu_tho]

*does barely anything of value outside of the bare minimum* "I deserve masters".

[@Senor_Fast]

Average lw player

[@phil1500]

@@Senor_Fast yeah the real truth is, lw has a really deep kit and you can do a lot of cool things with it. If you manage to do all of them, cancel all the ults, make all the right pull and petal plays, time preemptive heals perfectly, everything perfect... Then you'll be on par with a sub average juno in terms of actual contribution to a win. You have to do more, you have to be fancy and imaginative with his kit to genuinely climb on him. Reacting to everything perfectly isn't going to get you anywhere, all supports have to be proactive to really make a difference.

[@mayitakeyourhatsir8632]

"i realized partway through that our pharah was being kinda epic" is a great quote

[@AdrianBermea]

*HAMME-~~~AAARRHHHHH!" emongg: "Big Slam"

[@nealhodge8560]

Never gets old

[@_Moralle]

Emongg's talk about making plays resonated so much with me because I've been trying to get Bap's cute spray achievement again recently. Naturally, I play the hero as safe as possible to avoid dying, and I so often notice how I have to go against my natural instinct of going in and making a play that could have won a fight but also risked me dying (this is all in qp before someone accuses me of throwing people's ranked matches). Not dying is nice, but you really have to take the risk at times if winning is your priority.

[@freakenstein1991]

I’m gold 5 and a LW main.. I would walk circles around this guy lol he’s silver at best. Not using petal for his ash as an elevator. Every pull was within arms reach and had 0 value. Horrible tree timing.. LW has no falloff dmg, poke tf out of em at distance! Character with awesome mobility and he’s always on the ground with terrible positioning.

[@joshyaash]

bro hasn't used petal once

[@superstarr310]

It makes sense why you lose rank for leavers. Otherwise people would team to boost an account and one member would leave losing games.

[@YellowSpaceMarine]

I didn't know ELO hell was the place where you could only use left-click. Good to know.

[@seanrasmussen2877]

Im tempted to agree with the leaving point. I know people could take advantage, but losing SR because of someone with a poor mental game is frustrating.

[@FawwazMuhammad-Yusuf]

Or even just bad connection. I've lost games where we were crushing the other team only for one of my teammates to, presumably, disconnect and we end up losing a game we we well on our way to winning.

[@BrazenBull91]

​@FawwazMuhammad-Yusuf how common is this for you?

[@anthonyfarias5076]

True but that doesn't happen enough to be relevant to climbing ranks. Even if it did, that applies to both teams as well so his rank is still what he deserves. Not their teammates' fault if this groundweaver can't play as good as masters like he did in the past.

[@ragingdemon1344]

I kinda agree on the fact that one match lost due to a leaver also punishing your SR is dumb. But those are rare cases on every rank, it's not the norm. I don't know if there's a way to program around it and I don't have experience with other games to understand if this is something that can't be avoided. But blaming leavers, throwers and everything else as the reason you're in your rank is the stupid part. Yes, you get those kind of people. But you also get people high above your own skill level in your team too. You also get people leaving on the enemy team. The enemy team will also get throwers. At some point if you want to climb up the ranks you have to start thinking that the only thing in common in your games is yourself (and/or your duo/group). When you realize that you're in the same rank as all those people and that you're there for a reason, then you'll see how to climb out. I used to be bronze for about three seasons when i started in comp (i played a lot of QP) and I was convinced my QP experiencie should've been enought to put me at least on plat. Turns out when I started working in my own mistakes i started climbing. Yes, you're gonna have bad luck in some games where you get those kind of people. But believe me, you aren't gonna drop from Masters to Plat just because of those people. You're gonna lose ranks because maybe you were boosted by good rng in matchmaking. Maybe you were having a good series of games/seasons. At some point, if you belong in a rank, you're gonna be in it for a while.

[@FawwazMuhammad-Yusuf]

@@BrazenBull91 Honestly, depends on the week. I've had weeks where I don't have a single leaver, and I've had disconnects in like 5 consecutive games some other weeks. When the latter happens, it's very disheartening watching all your SR just leech away in games you lost due to no fault of your own. In the grand scheme of things I'm sure it evens out, but it's very frustrating while it's happening.

[@GO-sz1nv]

As a Masters support who sometimes plays LW, this player does not deserve masters like they claimed. Maybe high plat. Actually, I'm going to downgrade them to low plat after some of the things I saw.

[@vergverilvehrigl]

im plat 2 and this person is way worse than the people i usually see tbh. most supports in my rank(from my experience) know not to healbot 96% of the time but this guy doesnt know. 🤷

[@GO-sz1nv]

@vergverilvehrigl I can forgive healbotting on LW but yeah I do a bit more damage usually. Love surprising and assassinating a Widow.

[@senor135]

chat is crazy about the petal. petal CD starts when you throw it... that's it, that's all. when the ability is ready again you can throw another one. doesnt matter if it's been damaged or destroyed or self-destructed or anything like that. the duration on the life of the petal drains when the petal is elevated, and pauses when it's on the ground.

[@ralphforbes5807]

Solution: don't play lw lmao Dear God, you ain't masters Nah emongg they bragged about it being their teams fault and how they should be masters, they are in fact bad

[@justinc6536]

As a lifeweaver main i can confirm that you are correct

[@VonTachyon]

I was just about to say this myself. Even by the low standards I have for a lifeweaver, this guy is doing zilch.

[@Ajsobrainsalot]

Unless ur actually good at him* there helped u finish ur sentence

[@BrazenBull91]

​@@Ajsobrainsalotno, he got his sentence correct the first time round.

[@Ajsobrainsalot]

@@BrazenBull91 nah

[@calvinbratkovics1493]

Idk if it's the right thing to do but for me when I see we have Anna I usually use the petal to give her better los

[@faelheavymetal]

Plays like silver, gets ranked as plat 2, thinks it belongs in Masters. Feels like bait. I don't think someone can be that delusional.

[@bunnyg4464]

Mercy/Moira/LW players usually are.

[@emuvarke7687]

@@bunnyg4464 as a M1 LW player, I hard agree. most of us are delulu asf but some have common sense.

[@BrazenBull91]

You have no idea how old this person is.

[@cccameo]

calling them "it" is crazy

[@faelheavymetal]

@@BrazenBull91 How is that relevant?

[@RogueBuraiSolo]

Man, every LW player I seen in this series doesn't utilize petal proactively and at 13:30 is when I had to type this. Blizzard even made the adjustment of timing with the usage of the petal and planting one down to get people to use it more often. He could have continued pushing the cart but launch a petal forward to have Pharah continue to be in the air without using their fuel for a little while. This definitely doesn't show this is their main hero used to climb.

[@babulbi]

Is spamming uncharged heals actually good now or something? I feel like pulling my hair watching them spam those flowers.

[@brandoncole5533]

Fr shit was pissing me off😭😭

[@StabbyMcGroin5264]

Right there with you lol

[@AquaWizardd]

Best when an ally is really low and you expect incoming/constant damage so they dont die while its charging… but otherwise, just charge the heals!

[@Weightsss]

First petal was used literally 3 minutes into the match… keep working up. Your petal is literally your best escape in your kit and can be used to reach teammates out of reach. You’re where you’re supposed to be and that’s ok. Keep grinding though❤️

[@angie2932]

as a lw main this hurt me so much. midtown has so many high ground spots and his team could have benefited a lot from petals

[@TraumaQueen65]

Setting the petal pre-fight also free's up the NEXT petal for whatever ult you are defending against. EG: that last Orisa ult, they didn't have a petal for because they'd just put it down

[@kickas151]

I bet this dude got to Masters in season 3 where we had a huge rank inflation. if you got to Masters the honest way, then you should be able to climb back with no problems.

[@brighterphantom4530]

"B.O.B! Ouwah!!" - Ashe(Played by Zephey). 23:01

[@ragingdemon1344]

Okay, I'm 11 minutes in and I will say this is not a plat LW. Plat LW will make dumb decisions, but at least anyone who gets to plat on support without being boosted will try and make plays. I have just seen this LW spam "group up" to his Mauga while he's on cart. A plat LW would either dash to heal/pull the Mauga. Maybe both. I've seen this behaviour in low gold/high silver lobbies where supports go directly into cart and they stay there trying to move the objective without any other thought. So I think he has a lot to learn before actually deserving to be plat. I would say mechanics are the only thing keeping him in plat... but most of his hero pool doesn't even take a lot of mechanical skill.

[@fireball1249]

Honestly, I'm not much if a LW user, but when I do, I tend to forget about the Petal and when I do remember it, I'm always panicing and struggling where to put it.

[@Waffl3B1T]

ALRIGHT SO!

[@rozynahh]

I watched that live, and lemme tell you, the chat was going insane Edit: we had a petal counter, by the end of first half it was at 4-5, that was a blast Like jesus christ, this guy in masters? Sorry but my lw is better and im low gold

[@itzxiria]

DRINK TO THE AMOUNT OF TIMES YOU HEARD "PETAL"! GGS Chat.

[@Nexusquo]

They seemed like a gold/plat lvl player to me. Especially considering the fact they didn’t seem to understand how incredibly hard their Mauga dominated and carried that game along with the Ana who kept him up. This LW barely had to play the game. He pushed cart and he held down an auto aim button… trees were okayish, very few good petals, very few good pulls, let teammates die from lack of using petal to hold good angles. This guy didn’t used to be masters, he got to masters once before the rank reset which really means he got to diamond at one point but is currently in plat which seems about the correct skill lvl.

[@redstonemonster5769]

A Ana teammate would very much like to use a petal for highground, that is not possible if the lifeweaver does not use it.

[@juniorvazquez9169]

Just by the description i can tell this life weaver is person who expects to be carried the whole game

[@redpaw2153]

I hope he rewatches the video and sees the issues with not using the pedal. His mindset was so 1 dimensional as a "heal bot." He should have been a heal tower! Just somethings I noticed, he spent so much time running back and forth instead of using the pedal to get a elevated line of sight on people

[@victime4360]

No petal no win

[@pogchamp154]

If they mean masters before season 9 and they are plat post season 9 then they are in the correct rank by their own definition

[@timeparadox999]

they do NOT know what to do when their team is full health

[@bunny-n4h]

wheres the masters? is it hiding behind the low plat?

[@Seissmo]

7:08 PHARAH NO!

[@cinnadala]

if people have the mentality that they should be in a higher rank than they are, they deserve the rank they are currently in

[@quinnhutson5566]

...I was so proud when I made Plat as support Also, I just realized their fellow support was Ana for most of the game. Anyone who flames Ana for having low numbers on the scoreboard deserves bad things.

[@jillrobertsfan]

this guy is atrocious on lw, It's very obvious he doesn't play lw that much

[@brandoncole5533]

Right? Bro is barely charging up heals and spamming it wondering why nobody is getting healed, and THEN he doesn't even take advantage of LifeWeavers decent damage capabilities when the whole team is full health.

[@azseal2669]

Sometimes I think Lifegrip should have Ana's nano confirmation toggle but I know most Weavers you get wouldn't turn that setting on lol. This player is very reactive, which can be good as Weaver sometimes, but there's none of that sneaky stuff you see in higher ranks. Like sneaking past 4 ppl and pulling someone with an AOE ult into their team lmao. Also their pulls are fairly awful and often a waste seeing as they pull some teammates who are full HP *into* danger rather than out of it. Also the next to non-existent use of petal. It's all a learning process but I don't think this person belongs in that rank, not as Weaver anyway. Maybe they're cracked on another support, but they're definitely not good at Weaver.

[@axelt6312]

the sneaky stuff is higher rank ? im gold and i do it with my reaper friend

[@deadmemez1446]

can definitely get into diamond no problem

[@Bloodrush414]

Not to be mean but this guy plays like he is in low gold.. I play a lot of Life Gripper. And that pedal is always out it gives such a beautiful line of site and you can pull teammates to the platform if they are low. His average actions are so low for being in plat. However I noticed this is console so maybe it’s different.

[@theamina6191]

Honestly if u only showed me their gameplay, I would say they are silver/gold

[@zeos26]

ALRIGHT SSSSO!

[@brittanybeez]

8:00 use petal and it starts a cooldown. If it's destroyed it restarts it. Like torb turret

[@WunderWulfe]

press your buttons 🐹🙏 also “i should be masters” but doesnt aim thorns

[@nicejarry]

Being a support is rough since you need to rely on your dps's and tank to not do dumb moves.

[@FawwazMuhammad-Yusuf]

This literally applies to every role. The tank needs the DPS and support to not be idiots and the DPS need the support and Tank to actually do their jobs.

[@nicejarry]

Basically do not feed.

[@samhamwich518]

Being support is easy. What other role can get to high plat by sitting on ults and never using their cooldowns

[@amandopurperhart1351]

I read lifeweaver and I am already convinced they deserve to be in bronze

[@vanthonvenus]

how am i this early

[@freaksh0]

This guy isn’t masters.. low plat or gold at best

[@manh-haimuller6027]

Omg! A LW main is saying: HE is in ELO hell!!! Take the L man! Honestly, pick up Kiriko, Ana or Baptist and start getting good BY WINNING TEAM fights by yourself! LW 🤦🏾‍♂️ yeah, GL relying on random team mates!

[@timelord_tori]

I’m early yippie :D

[@TraumaQueen65]

Second 😁🥰

[@NOQUE.]

2 view

[@wyattburns3005]

He says use the pedal but the pedal isn’t needed half the time

[@yoait4053]

What if he gets jumped on by a flanker, or by anyone really ? You never know when petal can be useful so you better use it preventively to help against them diving you : it gives you a little bit of cover, some vertical mobility and can help you heal better as you have a good view of your whole team. If you use it before, you have your cooldown available right after it is destroyed or when you break it, meaning that you effectively have 2 petals consecutively which is huge

[@StrifeDarksiders]

Ngl this lw is afk 90% of this game. Emongg is just trying to teach him stuff

[@samhamwich518]

Literally the first fight he could’ve used petal to save his Ana

[@azseal2669]

It's still good practice to put one down in case you need it and even if you don't your other Support/DPS can benefit.

[@axelt6312]

@@yoait4053 or simply use it to help dps getting to nice place or good view, some of the more immobile dps like cass like them a lot, widows also like petals