This Magic Motorcycle Technique SOLVES your Slow Speed Problem

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Yammie Noob

Yammie Noob

Күн бұрын

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@ragerider6283
@ragerider6283 7 ай бұрын
Great tip. Over the years I learned to use the rear all the time at low speed, especially on inclines, declines & making low speed turns for stability. It amazes me how many "experienced" riders don't use the rear brake at all.
@literal_lee
@literal_lee 7 ай бұрын
Experienced riders also know what it is to lock up the rear while braking at high speed. A very scary experience indeed and the reason that I didn't use the rear brake for nearly twenty years. With today's ABS it's not a real problem, but it takes some time to relearn the rear brake.
@ragerider6283
@ragerider6283 7 ай бұрын
@@literal_lee I get your point but experienced riders have learned from their mistakes & as mentioned in the vid, it's really not ideal to use your rear brake at high speed on the road. Unless it's in conjunction with the front during an emergency stop or a quick dab of it before entering a corner. If you're locking it up, maybe the travel wasn't set up correctly as in too sensitive / short or you just weren't used to how aggressive it was. Before ABS was commonplace, my instructor said to me after I passed my test to go to a quiet straight road & just practice with the brakes at about 30mph to see how much input locks the wheels. I started riding in the early 90's & learned to use the rear brake without ABS which was helpful imo. Also ABS poses it's own challenges that need to be learned too as most people don't understand how to use it properly. It doesn't necessarily stop you quicker but it does prevent the wheels from locking which allows you to keep maneuvering the bike freely at maximum braking force as once the wheels lock there's nothing you can do. ABS allows you to remain in control & steer etc but most people just slam them on & hope for the best which means they're missing the main point of them.
@literal_lee
@literal_lee 7 ай бұрын
@@ragerider6283 I wasn't really that bad with the rear brake. In emergency situations however, I had a tendency to slam on the rear brake, no matter how much I practiced. After almost crashing my near new bike in that manner, I decided to never use te rear brake again. Few years ago I relearned to use the rear brake for tight turns, but still will not us it while cruising, touring killing the twisties or on track. Obviously I still don't have ABS.
@drax3500
@drax3500 7 ай бұрын
I learned to use the front brakes mainly except for when on dirt or taking off on an incline
@yousefabdulrhman
@yousefabdulrhman 7 ай бұрын
Great tip haha
@Galuda
@Galuda 7 ай бұрын
That's crazy I just passed my MSF course 3 hours ago when this video was posted and this is the EXACT thing I wanted more coaching on because I struggled with it. Thanks Yammie!
@michaelcaine8311
@michaelcaine8311 7 ай бұрын
Left foot down is the only way for me. Not just because it's what I was taught but as I am also a right leg amputee right foot down requires more effort and time. I have a thumb brake for the rear, love it!
@257796
@257796 7 ай бұрын
Same here brother but my left is messed up. Horrible because that's how I was taught as well but now I hate standing on it. Glad you're still riding
@EbonyPope
@EbonyPope 7 ай бұрын
What kind of Suzuki model is that?
@mookins45
@mookins45 7 ай бұрын
@@EbonyPope GSX 800... long ago the GSX 750 was Suzuki's kinder gentler sportbike before the hard-edged GSXR 750 came out. That's what GSX means: more mellow
@ptilrem
@ptilrem 7 ай бұрын
I use the rear brake all the time together when braking, at all speeds. Before crossroads and roundabouts, coming to a stop before a light. And especially when having a pillion on, the rear brake helps alot in stopping power.
@EbonyPope
@EbonyPope 7 ай бұрын
What kind of Suzuki model is that?
@Nick-Emery
@Nick-Emery 7 ай бұрын
In the UK we (Or certainly I was). Taught at slow speeds to drag rear brake and ride the clutch. (Like pull the clutch in a little bit) but you need to keep the revs up. More or less rear brake then makes you slower or faster, also useful in stop start traffic
@K_Night...
@K_Night... 7 ай бұрын
Interesting! In Finland to get your license you have to be able to ride at around 3-4 km/h without putting your feet down and at the same time they teach us exactly to drag the rear brake when driving slow.
@VLokkY
@VLokkY 7 ай бұрын
Same in Belgium, mandatory 9h course for a temp drivers licence, 12h course to be able to do your license at once.
@EbonyPope
@EbonyPope 7 ай бұрын
What kind of Suzuki model is that?
@awakeholic
@awakeholic 7 ай бұрын
Same in the Netherlands, you learn this at your mandatory driving lessons!
@winark66
@winark66 7 ай бұрын
Its even longer in France haha, i'm baffled whenever I see these videos explaining extremely basic skills to people that are already on the road with actual heavy loaded CC bikes. The USA is really a different world lmao
@Disturbing.noises
@Disturbing.noises 7 ай бұрын
In Hungary you have to do a 27 hours course. Half of it on a track that looks like a slow speed training, the other half has to be done in traffic. You have to take separated exams, for the slow speed and for the traffic part as well.
@molecularconcept1318
@molecularconcept1318 7 ай бұрын
ive dropped my bike twice stopping quickly with front . tipped it right over at a stop sign, the other iwas doing a uturn bnut same thing tipped it right over lol. frame sliders for the win!
@evanwesley387
@evanwesley387 7 ай бұрын
Got a brand new ninja 500 today, rode for awhile. Came to a slow stop and front braked and dropped my shits. Shoutout to frame sliders.
@soggywuffles882
@soggywuffles882 7 ай бұрын
Adding in rear brake especially helps on adventure bikes with mitigating fork dive / balancing the chassis during quicker stops.
@BOLDONAS
@BOLDONAS 7 ай бұрын
the one about rev matching on downshift changed my riding. Love these edu series! 👍
@nkboon1234
@nkboon1234 7 ай бұрын
Here in sg they teach rear brake slow speed manoeuvres on less 2. And you’re required to drag your rear brake and stay on a narrow plank for a above a certain timing to pass the lesson 😄
@madcyrus80
@madcyrus80 7 ай бұрын
Took the MSF last month and rear break saved me a lot of stress during the box. I heard you mention this in a previous video and it helped a lot.
@Davidmakesvideos.
@Davidmakesvideos. 7 ай бұрын
This definitely boosted my confidence when braking as I had trouble remembering what to do and how to do it properly
@plap.
@plap. 7 ай бұрын
It's easy, Just remember front brake if you want to stop, rear to slow maneuver or skid. The stopping power is all in the front brake!
@Davidmakesvideos.
@Davidmakesvideos. 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, it was especially the clutch part that I just am not used to with my other 4 wheelers
@I7ave
@I7ave 7 ай бұрын
if you want even more confidence, get wider handlebars. so the bike is less twitchy
@richkeylor787
@richkeylor787 7 ай бұрын
When you are just about to stop with your right foot on the peg, give the bars a teeny turn to the right. The bike will gently lean onto your left foot. It's very smooth when you get the timing right, and you look like you know what you're doing.🙂
@itperdition
@itperdition 7 ай бұрын
I ride like that all the time and I have never thought about it. Just something that comes with experience I guess. Good video
@poker8193
@poker8193 7 ай бұрын
This guy is One of the few people on the internet with useful knowledge teaching people. And he gives pro tips explained for beginners
@brothscout864
@brothscout864 7 ай бұрын
I like these instructor style videos alot. Yam is a suprisingly good teacher for a internet meme lord 😂
@700clx2
@700clx2 7 ай бұрын
Another great video. One additional advantage to using your "left foot down" technique is that if you have decided to ride in the center of the lane you'll avoid your right foot coming back to the peg with all the oil, antifreeze, wiper fluid, and other liquids deposited most often from the center of cars and trucks at lights and stop signs. I learned to ride in NYC and spent most of my time riding 2 up. Now that I'm in the heart of the Catskill Mountains that works greatly to my advantage. While riding mostly solo I stay as close to the center of the road for a few extra milliseconds in case a rabbit, possum, deer, or bear jumps out into the road. When oncoming cars approach I slide over to the right and then back again when traffic has passed. I also used to ride with a plastic shorty helmet since traffic was usually below 35mph but due to the size of flying insects and much larger birds in the wild I won't ride without a face shield and have gained a lot of respect for those that do it nationwide. Keep up the great work.
@Superjet113
@Superjet113 7 ай бұрын
This works great on dirt bikes too when turning corners in deep sandy stuff. A good amount of throttle and ride the rear brake.
@cujoedaman
@cujoedaman 7 ай бұрын
I never thought about using the rear brake for slow turns. I always see vids saying to feather your clutch... but kinda hard to do with a little Super Cub when the clutch is also the shift pedal, it isn't as refined as a clutch lever. I'm sure it could be done, but I have a heavy foot.
@toethumbmorris9
@toethumbmorris9 7 ай бұрын
I always use both the front and rear brake at the same time while driving around and use the rear for slow speed maneuverability.
@jonlough3074
@jonlough3074 7 ай бұрын
This is how i have to do it on my africa twin dct, and it lets you turn really tight circles at low speed.
@VKd-lp1gn
@VKd-lp1gn 7 ай бұрын
It scares me that obviously in the US people are allowed to ride without any basic knowledge, so that a video like ths is actually considered helpful in the comments. The european license-system is very restrictive, but there are a lot less horror-vids with bikes on YT... The content of this vid is the content of the very first lesson in any motorcycle license- course.
@toethumbmorris9
@toethumbmorris9 7 ай бұрын
Probably 70 percent of riders in America don't have a motorcycle license lol specially down here in the south. They just buy a bike and start riding. I bought my first motorcycle brand new from a dealership a month before I took my msf lol don't need a license to buy a car or motorcycle here in America.
@AceGoodheart
@AceGoodheart 7 ай бұрын
European seems too restrictive while U.S. is too lenient. 2 days is all it takes to get a motorcycle license in the U.S. and any type of bike you want. That's kinda scary. European system requires more classes and has you gradually upgrading to a larger bike (if I have that correct). That sounds like overkill. For me personally, I'm super happy with the U.S. system. My goal is to be as safe as possible on a bike. I'm very aware of the risks involved with motorcycles so I educate myself and practice, practice, practice my motorcycle skills and ride well within my skill limits. I don't want to get hurt. Plus it's nice to save money by not having to buy lower powered bikes. I have no desire to ride too fast, especially while in traffic. I do love acceleration though.
@oldcowbb
@oldcowbb 7 ай бұрын
@@toethumbmorris9 it scare the shit out of me there are tons of comments like "i have ridden for 10 years, finally decided to take the MSF course" like what the fuck
@peterfong1556
@peterfong1556 7 ай бұрын
Wet grass, or going off road rear brake in less traction is the only way!
@Jonasegway
@Jonasegway 7 ай бұрын
I have been sorta struggling with tight low low speed maneuvers. I'll remember to drag my rear brake while turning hard (like making a uturn.
@mikecarthy88
@mikecarthy88 7 ай бұрын
That's super great, but can you explain how this is better in stop and go traffic when you don't want to wear out your clutch hand without having to switch feet? Right foot down seems to make the most sense since you can still brake and put right down when you stop.
@johnshatzko4153
@johnshatzko4153 7 ай бұрын
Never use the front brake in 1st gear. Use the engine revs to add stability....think of the spinning engine mass as a hidden 3rd wheel.
@unwarrywanderer
@unwarrywanderer 7 ай бұрын
Sometimes I use the 2nd gear to keep the torque from kicking in, not sure if it's a good idea though.
@donnellans
@donnellans 7 ай бұрын
The friction zone should be mastered first for low speed maneuvers and then add the rear brake for control and stability. If a new rider jumps right to rear brake techniques while without mastering the friction zone, it’s not going to help. It will just cause abrupt movements and installing because they’re not comfortable with the friction zone.
@DaHobbyGoblin
@DaHobbyGoblin 7 ай бұрын
He covered the friction zone pretty well in his learn to ride video, this is more for ppl that may be struggling with stopping smoothly after that...
@donnellans
@donnellans 7 ай бұрын
@@DaHobbyGoblin He’s talking about dragging the rear brake at slow speeds. That’s generally only done when you’re working in the friction zone. He didn’t mention that in the video. And he didn’t preface by talking about his previous friction zone videos. I’m just clarifying.
@spinnetti
@spinnetti 7 ай бұрын
Seems odd that motorcycles don't have linked brakes with proportioning control like all cars since the 60's... Modern cars often lead with the rear brakes just for this same reason - stability, and the greater the braking application, the more the front is fed in due to weight transfer. Most important on this topic though is you can't do stoppies with the rear brake lol.
@sergh8605
@sergh8605 7 ай бұрын
Wow, great video. Thank you.
@HookLine48
@HookLine48 7 ай бұрын
Rear brake is a scalpel and front brake is a hammer
@233kosta
@233kosta 7 ай бұрын
They're both scalpels. The rear is a pretty blunt one, the front probably has frickin' lasers or something. Point is, it's as precise as you are.
@RedlineFeline
@RedlineFeline 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. I've heard the term "dragging" the rear brake but I couldn't figure out that they just mean to "use" the brake.... I was straining my brain trying to figure out what "dragging" meant.. duh.
@yoo912
@yoo912 7 ай бұрын
Lmao terminology seems to be an issue with all hobbies, motorcycles are no exception 😂
@edwardhinz
@edwardhinz 7 ай бұрын
I started left foot down and became so used to it that I struggle with right foot down. Sometimes I want the brake, sometimes I want the shifter. But I don’t want to shuffle foot anymore. 🤷‍♂️
@moeclash238
@moeclash238 4 ай бұрын
Bro what? you sound like a person who doesn’t ride a motorcycle trying to fit in.
@edwardhinz
@edwardhinz 4 ай бұрын
@@moeclash238 30,000 miles on my ‘12 R6 and 4500 miles on my ‘24 ZX10R. Both Anniversary Editions. Both still racking up the miles. Where do you fit in?
@michaelfuncheon7060
@michaelfuncheon7060 7 ай бұрын
Folks, this is Gospel. I learned the hard way by using my front brake in a slow speed turn and went down. Was riding a Fat Boy at the time. Got the mandatory ride in the ambulance to the hospital with a gash on my left leg. Developed a blood clot that could of killed me (flew to Las Vegas and back). Has to do with the physics of a spinning gyro (front wheel) when braking is applied. There were no MSF classes or licensing requirements when I started. Learned on the mean streets. 80% of your stopping power is in the front brake. Rear brake is for control and trailbraking. Yammie, I commend you. One of your best segments yet.
@EbonyPope
@EbonyPope 7 ай бұрын
What kind of Suzuki model is that?
@ericgreen1079
@ericgreen1079 7 ай бұрын
I would only add that when you stop it helps to turn the steering to the left so that the bike tips to the left for your left foot rather than having to use your right
@razzle1964
@razzle1964 7 ай бұрын
Dunno how easy this is on my bike, a Super Meteor 650. One wag remarked it has the turning circle of the Amoco Cadiz. Its rear brake probably has the stopping distance of, well … the Amoco Cadiz, I’d say.
@ItsDaJax
@ItsDaJax 7 ай бұрын
Akira slide!
@roddas26
@roddas26 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. Great informative video.
@Victor-cj1pc
@Victor-cj1pc 7 ай бұрын
I had to stand up my ducati monster S2R800 on its front tire (no ABS) just 100 mtrs from my working place due to a big pickup pulling out of his driveway without looking. I'm sure it hit both brakes, but ended up on one tire only. Hope you all keep safe.
@br2000j
@br2000j 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video appreciate the advice
@3089280288
@3089280288 7 ай бұрын
I just started to do that..Trail braking to save my front
@TOMeightoh
@TOMeightoh 7 ай бұрын
get a litre bike and only use the rear brake like a real squid lol
@eliinthewolverinestate6729
@eliinthewolverinestate6729 7 ай бұрын
Drag the rear like a dog itching it's butt. I gotta say some of those squid things learned on a dirt bike have actually made me a better rider today. My tips. Check your tires, brakes, look for leaks. First thing before starting. Sportster tire looses air. Wear your gear. Turn around the motorcycle(s) before starting. Next tips would be know how to jump/push start it. Might want to check the lights too. I bought a new bike didn't check headlights. More looking at mechanical stuff and suspension.
@RRoDCarnagesURL
@RRoDCarnagesURL 7 ай бұрын
see, this is why i feel its better in the uk and ireland to get a bike. you have to complete a two day course called the ibt. this rear braking method is what you are taught on the first day and you cant pass the ibt unless you learn this. in two days youre on the road on your own bike and you know all this stuff from the get go.
@wereoursouls3472
@wereoursouls3472 7 ай бұрын
Same in Australia
@str8jktblahblahblah84
@str8jktblahblahblah84 7 ай бұрын
I was catfished with the FTR thumbnail!!!
@kennywheelus6857
@kennywheelus6857 7 ай бұрын
But don't you have to squeeze the clutch as well,how much clutch do have to use before pressing the rear break
@tischot
@tischot 7 ай бұрын
i am learning this trick as well taking motorcycle lessons in NL, only thing is that it is absolutely forbidden to put the left foot down. that is an instant fail on the exam. reason for that is because we learn to drive and stop at the leftish side of the lane and if you put your left foot down, traffic can run over it. another reason is quicker shifting at standstil.
@plap.
@plap. 7 ай бұрын
Don't know how qualified they are for lessons but I have been riding street for forty years and have never have had my left foot run over being down. That is ridiculous, how does a leg even stick out off the bike so far it is in the other lane. If a car is that close It would hit the bars that stick out farther than your foot ever would. It is much more useful to hold a bikes position at a light or on a hill with the right foot holding the brake left foot down and hands free. They are giving you terrible advice.
@AugustoTobias
@AugustoTobias 7 ай бұрын
To me, stopping on the left side seems more dangerous. If a driver is flying up behind you, and won't stop in time, stopping on the left makes it harder for you to escape. If you go left, you head into oncoming traffic and/or the driver behind you possibly veers to the left directly towards you. Going right keeps you in the direct path of that speeding car a little longer, assuming the driver doesn't veer left. Where as stopping on the right side of the lane allows you to quickly lane split to the right and have a higher chance to avoid the car. Getting in front of the cars that where in front of you allows you to use them as a shield. As for the left foot down, that's how it should be IMO. You should still be in first gear when stopping. That way you can just go instead of fumbling with the shifter. Having your right foot on the brake frees your right hand, if you need to flip your visor or something. If you stop on a incline, you obviously need to use the brake to not roll back. Trying to release the front brake at the same time as twisting the throttle is difficult. Possibly dangerous as you might accidentally pop a wheely.
@nonyabusiness4151
@nonyabusiness4151 7 ай бұрын
My instructor told me that was not mandatory. Though they are religious about it. NL I'm curious to find out what the truth is... In the Netherlands, the CBR/DMV is a massive extortion practice. The rules are written by beaurocrats who don't know what they are talking about. There are so many bad habits I must learn for two tests.
@michielshub
@michielshub 7 ай бұрын
Dutchie here, rear break use is tought in driving lessons. However the left foot down thing is not correct as far as I know. I passed with it and during lessons this was never a topic.
@plap.
@plap. 7 ай бұрын
@@nonyabusiness4151 It is so different everywhere. Some make the license a progressive thing. Some places all you need is money to buy the bike you want. Most things are common sense. Don't know what is being taught now different from years ago. Have never heard one foot or the other on the ground issues before. Foot on the brake is just way more useful. If nothing else to take a break and just sit at the light without holding on to everything. All you do with the left is stomp the lever while putting your foot on the peg. Put it in first to move when the light goes green, how close does your foot need to be. Most motorcycles do the same. It is very easy to do blind. If your feet are getting run over at stop lights something else is happening like a pile up. Can't imagine what other crazy useless stuff they are telling people to worry about. Squashed left feet is one great example
@ulyspot
@ulyspot 7 ай бұрын
Same with linked brakes ? VFR1200X has linked brakes front and back.
@jonobester5817
@jonobester5817 7 ай бұрын
Really helpful to this relative novice 70yr old :-) So how many entries do you typically get on your drawings? Let me know when you will be giving away a Triumph Triple. And it doesn't have to be new 🙂
@RovingTrader
@RovingTrader 7 ай бұрын
I always tag the rear with slow speed maneuvering… I drag my rear like a dog with worms!
@xpayleskill
@xpayleskill 7 ай бұрын
wth are you learning during your motorcycle lessons in the USA
@kyokosgarden3779
@kyokosgarden3779 7 ай бұрын
Can this apply to someone that is 5’0 on a hawk 250 😭 I’ve lowered the bike as much as I could but still toes
@AlexR_44
@AlexR_44 7 ай бұрын
good stuff
@talan7503
@talan7503 7 ай бұрын
ABS saved my ass, so no complaints about it from me
@monsun3365
@monsun3365 7 ай бұрын
Just when I fell down on a nc750 using the front brake because I panicked
@pouyatorkiyan3258
@pouyatorkiyan3258 7 ай бұрын
Nice
@Euphorica
@Euphorica 7 ай бұрын
You learn this 'secret' in any decent class
@davisroberson7839
@davisroberson7839 7 ай бұрын
I use my rear in the corners ????? Is that a bad habit
@pacobanshee5265
@pacobanshee5265 7 ай бұрын
Nope, but u should using instead the front brake “BEFORE” entering a corner… Rear brake is more “effective” in slow speed maneuvers.. Ride safe! 🫡
@9u13t
@9u13t 7 ай бұрын
in very low speed and small angle corners
@GaryJahman
@GaryJahman 7 ай бұрын
Wayyy back my instructor taught me this and I thought this was basic knowledge. Looks like it’s not
@paulconnell1309
@paulconnell1309 7 ай бұрын
Cool. Use the front brake in the car park or at slow speeds and you will drop the bike.
@literal_lee
@literal_lee 7 ай бұрын
Not if you know how to apply the frontbrake. But obviously you use them as an on/off switch. So much to learn, you have....
@paulconnell1309
@paulconnell1309 5 ай бұрын
@@literal_lee My comment was a bit vague. Obviously you have to be turning to drop the bike, straight line is not an issue. However if you brake with the front brake in the middle of a slow speed tight turn, the bike will normally fall over. best use the rear brake.
@literal_lee
@literal_lee 5 ай бұрын
@@paulconnell1309 Yep. You have been working that out over the last two months ? 😜😄
@paulconnell1309
@paulconnell1309 5 ай бұрын
@@literal_lee 🤣 Clearing my email inbox. Missed the date 🤭
@literal_lee
@literal_lee 5 ай бұрын
@@paulconnell1309 Fair enough.😁 Drive safe brother. 👍🏻
@kinseylloyd
@kinseylloyd 7 ай бұрын
That's one sexy moto!!
@kupalisky3553
@kupalisky3553 6 ай бұрын
riding the clutch achieves the same thing
@TheWolf1203
@TheWolf1203 7 ай бұрын
don't break your screen hitting the subscribe button 😂
@Mrtweet81
@Mrtweet81 7 ай бұрын
Why are you wearing your boots on the wrong foot?
@AGRIV8TD1963
@AGRIV8TD1963 7 ай бұрын
Really!?😂 Sorry, I suppose this is for the inexperienced you focus your videos to!?😢
@LaJiahao
@LaJiahao 7 ай бұрын
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