THIS Makes Me SICK! ~ TOXIC Plants!

[@GrowFamilyNetwork]

Never thought about over wintering disease

[@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023]

I just made a video about my garden and my tomatoes look like yours. I purchased compost to fill the new beds a couple weeks ago and the leaves are curled along with the tomatoes developing points on the bottom. A viewer pointed me to your video and I am thinking there definitely was something wrong with that load of compost. Now I have more investigation to do. Thanks for sharing.

[@JubeeBijou]

Would you mind telling me the brand compost you used? Also, did you mulch with hay or straw?

[@tigercub1965]

I have a pet turtle and use the dirty water from the terrarium to feed my plants.

[@kathleencarragher8194]

I am sorry for your loss. I would never have known about this, without you experiencing it.

[@ScottHead]

Hopefully your contamination level is light like mine was. I was able to take it up with a tall dent corn that had a lot of mass to it, chopped it down later, burned it and the subsequent crops did fine.

[@GrowFamilyNetwork]

Got our zappers too..lol

[@hudson8865]

Thank you.

[@michellejohnson9741]

Thank you

[@mattingly1217]

That is really cool to be able to garden when its raining... i want a greenhouse

[@blessinghomestead657]

Thank you so much for this information. I try to grow organic myself and not use toxic chemicals. Im glad I havent purchased any hay or straw to use at my new homestead location. I will definetly ask these questions when I do need to purchase some in the future.

[@davidthegood]

God bless you guys and I hope your gardens make a full recovery.

[@DeepSouthHomestead]

Thanks David we are working on getting it fixed.

[@infinateU]

Good work. It's real motivating to see 1 correcting such a mistake. Best wishes for you and yours, be well.

[@staceyadams2272]

My plants look sad too. Okay no foods this year in 6B. You have a lot of guts and patience. The weather is because they cut the rainforest in South America in the 2000's. Amen.

[@jemmiestone5731]

I just hate this happened to you all. Praying that your new soil will be so much better for your Fall Plants. You are right, sometimes we just gotta do what we gotta do. God Bless You and Wanda.

[@petuniafuzz9083]

I'm sorry about your situation.

[@denisela3403]

this video is relaxing with the rain and the soft sound of picking. #ASMR

[@p2boulet]

I’m so very sorry. I know Scott at Black Gumbo Southern Gardening had the same unfortunate event last year. I’m looking forward to see what’s coming in the future!

[@keithwinslett9016]

Thank you for the info. Very helpful. ❤

[@nyletreloar9610]

I had no idea

[@bettyecarnahan5274]

I love hearing the rain!! I missed the part about a toxin. I have to find that vid. I don't know what happened.

[@edsmith4414]

Same here. I got horse manure (contaminated with GrazonHL unknown to me) and composted it for 2 years, flipping every 3 months or so. Had some issues with other vegetables, so I did a test of starting peas in regular commercial potting soil, and another in my compost. Compost peas curled up like you'd sprayed them with herbicide. I went back to the stables where I got the manure and they knew nothing about it. Apparently our local farm co-op puts it in the fertilizer they spread in the spring. And do you think THEY ever give the product label to the stable guy ? Nope. Look up the product label PDF for GrazonNext HL. It states "hay can only be used on the farm where product is applied" You think people SELLING HAY pay any attention to that ? Or even KNOW if the crap is mixed in with fertilizer ? "Manure from animals consuming this product 'may' contain enough aminopyralid to cause injury to sensitive broadlead plants".......May ?? Heck, it's DESIGNED so it passes right thru the animals and stops secondary growth of weeds in pastures. OF COURSE IT'S GONNA KNOCK YOUR GARDEN IN THE ASS !!!!!!!!!!! This CRAP is deadly to gardens, and apparently animal manures are no longer safe. I'll never have another piece of animal manure or bale of hay that wasn't produced on my place again. Thanks Dow Chemical.....for nothing.

[@juanitaspeak5101]

I'm confused. What happened? I must have missed something. Can someone explain please? Danny and Wanda we are praying for you and the homestead everyday. We love y'all and the knowledge you spread ❤

[@Katydidit]

Grazon... it is a Dow Chemical herbicide... aminopyralid. Clopyralid is also a persistant herbicide. Unfortunately the half life on some persistant herbicides can be over a year. Sometimes the only option is to dig it out. Those tomatoes were toxic. I lost my whole garden this Spring to the same when I brought in a "garden soil mix" to top off my raised beds.

[@staceyadams2272]

Hello guy. Thanx for this knowledge. MY JAMAICAN CALLALOO IS SURVIVING FYI. Learn a lot from you. God's grace to you.

[@gopro7164]

OMG, that is terrible that you have to go through that.

[@reneebrown2968]

Thank god that i know i only use my own produced compost and compostables from my own soil. That way i dont have to worry about chemical leaching into my soils or veggies

[@MrLittlelud4]

Interesting as always , keep it up .

[@orchepiaviolinviola]

OMG! A good ol' Southern down pour!

[@virginiabrister8642]

This is sooooooo sad and aggravating but my goodness, what a teachable moment for all of us. I would've never thought!!!!! I've always thought more about what got sprayed ON them and not about what they absorbed from the soil!! Love and Prayers.

[@ScottHead]

Oh man, I've been in your shoes Danny with the Grazon. Hope you are able to take up that herbicide. Heard about it from David the Good, and have been hammered by that nasty stuff myself.

[@melodytenisch6232]

Gee, I'm so sorry for you folks! After all your hard work to find that out! I'd be sickened, disgusted, unhappy too. Thank God you're doing the right thing though; I hope you find peace in that. So, more work to replace the soil...God bless you Danny and Wanda. Big hugs from a Yank who respects your integrity! Your greenhouse is great. Take care.👵🐕🌱🌱🍃

[@celticfiddle7605]

I learn so much from your channel

[@ritzbitz2000]

Same here. Spent 5 days grading the site, building 6 boxes, 5 truckloads of manure, only to find out its heavily contaminated... and this manure is YEARS old... but DOW says this shit breaks down in 6 months.... guess not. We're out all of our crops this year.

[@JubeeBijou]

Did you amend the soil to health or did you get rid of the soil?

[@shashakeeleh5468]

OMG! You know, I saw several of your videos where you were using hay, but being a beginner, I figured you found a safe hay to use. Oh Man, I'm with you on this one; my hay/straw went 6 weeks on outside plants and thanks to David The Good, I gathered it up and threw it all away. Don't use Black Cow or any bagged manures either. I'm so sorry to see this happen to y'all! You might want to strongly consider removing hay/straw from your outside beds too.

[@jksatte]

I bought a bunch of black cow and I don't have anything else to use. What do I do?

[@shashakeeleh5468]

@@jksatte I don't know what to tell you. I still have bags that are over 3 years old sitting idle. One guy I spoke with just bought some and said there was so little manure in it, he wasn't worried about it and so far, so good. IDK.

[@mmonr]

I am an Urban front porch gardener and have spent my spring loving every minute....but I have been in denial since you first informed us of the tainted straw and manure. But, today, the writing was on the wall, I used commercial cow manure with my own aged leaves and kitchen scrap compost. It has contaminated all my veggies and garden soil. I am so upset. But I am grateful for your info before I ate the puny veggies. I knew something was not right but just was faithful with the fertilizer. Nope, they have looked worse every day. It is all going to the dumpster now. I bought a new cedar raised bed from a man. How do I decontaminate the wooden box? I would appreciate anyone’s suggestion.

[@shermdog6969]

I just planted my beans.

[@forestmichael7050]

Have you ever tried to eat the leaves of the beans, just put them in the sun dry very well and pound them to dust form

[@coramdayo]

I had this happen to me 4 years ago when I had a dump truck load of "Black Gold" made locally from the huge horse farms delivered. Turned out they sprayed their fields with Grazon! It remained in the soil for several years and effected my harvest significantly. I ended up not planting a garden in the spot again and have now moved to a new property...won't be making that mistake again!!!

[@caroled3924]

Hi Danny. I’m sorry about your tomatoes! I have 3 plants doing ok but yesterday saw end rot ! They are in containers What can I do to save them. Thanks in advance ! God bless you n Wanda n I just love your videos. Take care. Rain sounds soo soothing. ❤️🤗🙏

[@kay-wt2rw]

I am a single mom in CA and been following you for the last 3 months. I turned on the computer to start my day. Always with you folks. When I saw you pulling up the tomatoes it made me crawl out of my skin. Toxic! I am so sorry. I believe I have to do the same. It is sad but thank God you learned of it now. God will bless you with another amazing harvest next season.

[@kay-wt2rw]

It is important to spread the word. What sucks is all the Blood and Sweat you put into your garden...to have to toss it. Who has the money to do that?! Ugh!

[@reesysorganicworld153]

What type of soil do you recommend that does not have Grazon 24d in it?

[@JubeeBijou]

I’d like to know as well.

[@lindasisosn5621]

Same thing happened to my garden, so sad

[@gretchice69]

How very sad. But glad you found out and helped us all know.

[@chrisbenda2601]

I have been doing some research on getting impurities out of soil and have you ever thought about growing sunflowers to detoxify the soil? From what I have read sunflowers are great at taking toxins out of the soil.

[@jksatte]

I heard potatoes were good for that as well.

[@merlinashland5136]

Danny, good morning to you and your lovely wife. Your comments on hay being sprayed were most helpful. Once a week I receive 12-15 tons of manure delivered and dumped on my farm in Ohio. The manure comes from an animal’s sanctuary nearby. I take it as a courtesy to the people who work daily to help abused and sometimes tortured animals. A lot of what these animals eat is local hay. Not only is this hay sprayed but the animals are given antibiotics and medicines to heal their illnesses. My concerns are about the hay that is sprayed on the fields and also the residue inside the animals that are treated by licensed veterinarians. So far my solution is to simply let the manure sit. Some manures sit 3 years. Others sit a minimum of 2 years. I still worry about what’s inside the horses and cows plus the poultry and swine. But I try to remember that the animals don’t care about anything but eating everyday. Now since watching your video I know I should wait longer before putting compost on the fields. Thank you for your most welcome advice. I am jealous about your beautiful greenhouse. We really appreciate your teaching skills. Marlin.

[@andreaberryman5354]

We have to compost everything we get now-especially compost-it's loaded too. 😢 I DO recommend the 3 years-excellent because persistant herbicides DO last 3 years, so definitely glad you do that. 3 1/2 it's SUPPOSED to be gone.

[@OkieRob]

Take some of that new hay and put it in a bucket of water. Use the water as a test on a potted plant. If it curls the leaves and causes the plant damage you will know the soil the rye grass was grown in was still contaminated.

[@davesrvchannel4717]

The lizard will be attracted to the yellow strips because of the bugs. He will stick to it and die a miserable death. May wanna put those where lizard cannot get to them, but flies can. He’s doing as good of job as yellow strips.

[@DeepSouthHomestead]

We haven't had a lizard get on one yet.

[@patriciadinh573]

We started to learn to grow food in our garden, but I didn't know it can have toxin. Like we was growing a certain spinach and it grew well. We ate from it a few times, then we noticed rust like growing on the leaves. You guys know what that is. How can I find out if the plants are no longer good or the soil. Man I have a lot to learn.

[@Angie-jg4nz]

Some of mine did this. The leaves are hard, grow turned down! I think I heard roots and refuge say something was up with one of hers

[@Katydidit]

Grazon... it is a Dow Chemical herbicide... aminopyralid. Clopyralid is also a persistant herbicide. Unfortunately the half life on some persistant herbicides can be over a year. Sometimes the only option is to dig it out.

[@arlarl5122]

Blight spores require living plant tissue to survive. Blight does not survive in the soil. You can put blight in your beds with things like potatoes, but once all the potatoes are gone the blight spores die. That’s one garden myth worth forgetting.

[@scottwhite4645]

The same disease showed in my tomatoes AND my beans! I know it must seem trivial to a hobby gardener, but I/we have so much of ourselves invested in our gardens, we’re growing to provide for our families and the future. Mr. Danny and Ms. Wanda I know it makes you sick....I had to do the same. All that said, I fall back on what my granny said, “when you have a garden, you always have something to look forward to”. Blessings to you both!!

[@mmonr]

Scott White I discovered the same thing today with my little garden. Tainted commercial cow manure. I was in denial for the last week but today, I was convinced. The poor little puny cucumber was green but that is about the only resemblance to a cuke.

[@lindafoster8182]

I wanted to cry watching the tomatoes go. I have one plant and it isn’t doing well. I totally understand your self preservation.

[@johniac7078]

My wife won't let me clean the house with my leaf blower.......she is so old fashion......but seriously, you guys are at a whole different level of gardening. Beautiful.

[@heidifrog7894]

Tactical Priority too funny! 😂😂😂

[@OutWestHomestead]

👍😂

[@itstheblessing]

Good one ! Blessing's , Linda

[@bridgescwr6136]

The rain in the backround is sooooo soothing. Thanks for sharing.

[@barbaraguthrie5107]

Man that was a sad thing to witness! I so hope changing the soil out does the trick. At least you now know how well the tomatoes will grow and produce in the green house.

[@mrkrharris]

what was the toxin... I missed it somehow. what and how did it get there.?

[@Katydidit]

Grazon... it is a Dow Chemical herbicide... aminopyralid. Clopyralid is also a persistant herbicide. Unfortunately the half life on some persistant herbicides can be over a year. Sometimes the only option is to dig it out. It came in the hay... or cow/ horse manure

[@mistydooley7799]

My husband believes our tomatoes are being affected by the same chemical. He knew something wasn't right, but didn't know what until seeing your video. Going to see about getting it tested to be sure. Sickening.

[@merlefunk4032]

We have the same chemical here in south east Arkansas the farmers here spray it on their soybeans which has 2 4 D in it people here don't even plant a garden no more on the count of it. I live in the woods but I still get the effect from it it drifts in the air.

[@janiceseigler6317]

I certainly don't blame you for feeling the way you do. I would have ripped them all out, too. It sure pays to do your research on EVERYTHING. Stay safe and God bless.

[@chrisgreen177]

You should invest in praying mantis egg sacs. You can attach them to the branches of you plants in the greenhouse, and when they hatch, you'd have your own military force of assassins patrolling your crops for bugs.

[@lindasmith6202]

Sorry about your loss but really appreciate you educating the rest of us. I can understand your anger.

[@itstheblessing]

So sorry you had this problem . what do you think about Black Gold Veg. garden soil ? The soil we like to bring in , by the yard in son's truck , was unavail. because of Corona they were not letting people fill their trucks. Had to get from another place and found glass in it . My beans look terrible and thinking lack of nutrients and maybe too much rain in WA. . As an experiment I only bought three bags of the Black Gold to see if it would help one area. couldn't find black Kow or I might have mixed that in too. Our son built us nice tall raised beds since we have trouble getting around these day's . So thankful for them. People that sell Hay etc . need to post if it has been sprayed with chemicals ! Blessing's , Linda

[@DeepSouthHomestead]

Put some of the soil in a small container and put in a few bean seeds and see if they show signs of the disease.

[@chunkymonkey4life791]

Is grazon typically a chemical just found in hay? Can you get it in soil you purchase from a store or could store bought plants already be affected with it? I have a lemon boy tomato plant that I just noticed today has the point at the bottom like you showed. Still new to gardening so not sure if all tomato plants grow the same either. Thank you in advance!

[@saddleridge4364]

so, even though the green beans were raised in the greenhouse, they can still get a disease? Where does disease like that come from? Sorry you had to rip them all out Danny, but I agree, you caught it before it could migrate into your soil. I am glad for the previous video about Grazeon, I had no idea. We just can't get away from these noxious chemicals, it's disgusting. God bless.

[@DeepSouthHomestead]

It comes from humidity. We don't have our new fans installed to keep the humidity down.

[@b.wooten4505]

Maybe the Ruth Stout method wold work in the green house

[@WeatherwithSeth]

Great video and I have a separate dump pile just like you have for the tomato plan, potatoes, and sweet potatoes separate from my somewhat of a compost pile. And where did you get those sticky pads

[@S2sparkleS2]

How did you find out that there was Grazon in your soil? Did you guys do a soil test? I'm wondering if I should do a soil test for the 4 yards of organic soil i just purchased...

[@Katydidit]

You can do what is called a bio-assay. You take 3 clean pots. Fill one w the new soil. One with your own garden soil or planting mix and one pot w a blend of half new and half your own mix. Plant 4 bean seeds in each and compare the results when you have 3 or 4 sets of leaves. If you have contaminated soil the results will be obvious.

[@Katydidit]

I brought 4 yards of soil into my garden unaware. Do the test first. You can also plant a few other veg in the new heap. A tomato plant will quickly be affected esp if the contamination is severe. Squash and brassicas are not affected in appearance. But are they safe to eat, that is the question? It is devastating. If your soil is truly organic... there should be no problems.

[@willow8094]

Last year black gumbo had this happen , I put straw down to help clay soil and nothing is doing well . I have pole beans planted and once they come up I put straw up closer to them and they started drooping in one day . This is real and sad not to mention the money spent . Organic seems to be a scam ! Big eye opener

[@Dan-yw9sg]

Breaks my heart to see this! I understand, knowing how much work went into building those beds and growing the tomatoes and beans. Thanks for the info about Grazon. I had no idea but will be aware from now on out. Thanks for sharing this important info!

[@Maggie-Gardener-Maker]

Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I had already made arrangement with local horse stable to get some of their composted manure but I won't now. I did some research and see that the responsible ingredient in Grazon is the aminopyralid. I read on by one source it can remain in sil up to two year, another says a year. I read that in Britain many of the food allotment gardens were contaminated with Grazon tainted composted manure. "Dow AgroSciences, which manufactures aminopyralid, has posted advice to allotment holders and gardeners on its website." "The Dow website says: 'As a general rule, we suggest damaged produce (however this is caused) should not be consumed.' Those who have already used contaminated manure are advised not to replant on the affected soil for at least a year."

[@marycook9607]

I'm so sorry you had to get rid of that much food after you guys work so hard. You try so hard and I learn a lot, makes me wonder about the rabbit pellets I feed my bunny.

[@christinaparker7630]

I’m so sorry. Same thing happened to me this year. Pulled everything and started over. So frustrating!

[@JubeeBijou]

How is your garden doing today? Did you remove all the soil as well or plant corn to soak up the chemical? Also, what do you suspect caused it - manure or did you use a hay or straw mulch?

[@Marli2023]

Danny thanks for the info about Grazon. I need to take corrective measures for my garden as well but my question is what is the cylinder around the base of the tomato plants you pulled. Is it copper tube by any chance?

[@DeepSouthHomestead]

Its a toilet paper tube to keep cut worms from getting to the plant.

[@jeanpeters2748]

The rain sounds wonderful. Good luck with the cleanup. Oh and, how did you initially detect the toxic chemical. 🍅🌿🌻

[@danielcossaboon7007]

We added manure tainted with grazon to our garden three years ago. Still dealing with the situation, even after removing soil. I was told that Dowe chemical avoided responsibility by placing the onus on the user. Any farm product leaving a farm that has been treated with grazon must sign a chain of custody document disclosing use. Nobody follows it though.

[@edsmith4414]

HEY....our local farm co-op adds it to the fertilizer they sell and spread and the owner of the hay field never even SEES a product label, much less any chain of custody baloney.

[@JubeeBijou]

Was it a brand name or did you get it from a farmer? Also, how long was it before you saw signs of damage. I found out about this AFTER sinuses black kow in my garden mix (1/3 top soil, 1/3 black kow and 1/3 pear). Now I’m freaked out and question I’d I’m seeing contamination damage.

[@andreaberryman5354]

I do not know if I have blight, or chemicals. Used compost, everything was GORGEOUS April-June. Put compost late April??? Think it's fungus-I THINK OUR COMPOST IS LOADED WITH PATHOGENS TOO! 😢 I am SO SORRY for such a HUGE loss in yield.

[@larrymoore6640]

Sad to see all those tomatoes go to waste but sometimes we have to sacrifice things to help us remember what we learned. Definitely a lesson that we all learned from.

[@DustanMoore]

What chemical was in your compost and how did it get there?

[@Katydidit]

Grazon... it is a Dow Chemical herbicide... aminopyralid. Clopyralid is also a persistant herbicide. Unfortunately the half life on some persistant herbicides can be over a year. Sometimes the only option is to dig it out.

[@kalilou2]

Ours start to grow about now in the uk

[@beery4farms617]

Where did you buy your greenhouse from? I am wanting one, and have looked on Amazon, but just don't know how sturdy they are.

[@sarar371]

I feel so bad for you losing all these vegetables. Thank you for the information on this chemical, I would not have been aware of this if I had not watched this video. Thanks so much for the information.

[@martelvonc]

This was a good lesson today. Sometimes it's okay to cull in order to be successful. It's a hard but important lesson to learn.

[@learntocrochet1]

I'm so sorry your greenhouse has been invaded by that terrible Grazon. These days one has to be so careful, every step, every decision, when planning what to do in the garden. We had wonderful, hummus rich, earthworm happy, mycorrhizal filled raised beds. As is typical, they soil leached out enough to need more added. Ordered the same replenishment from the same fella, supposedly from the same outfit. It was some nasty sand and silt junk that scared off the worms, killed off the fungi and worst of all, had some nasty chemical in it. EVERYTHING either didn't grow, or came up ill. One by one those beds have to be emptied and redone. It is especially hard for suburban, small garden growers who are reliant on bagged amendments. I've come to realize how necessary it is to know your supplier and know your brands. I'd rather pay more and know what I'm getting. Good luck with your later plantings.

[@brandyrichmond8147]

I love y'alls videos so much. I live in zone 8b in SE Texas and it's been such a chore learning how to grow here. Finding you guys has been a game-changer for me. So sorry you had to get rid of so much food due to the chemicals.

[@Katydidit]

I am also in zone 8b in Texas. This happened to my garden this year as well. I brought in 4 yards of garden mix to top off my raised beds. And watched my garden die. I will only purchase certified organic going forward. It is so devastating. My tomato plants never made it to blossom stage.

[@SueLD]

So sad this happened--makes me sick too. Glad you are taking care of it.

[@genecarr4568]

What is Grazon and how did it get into your soil? Just currious for my own education.

[@Katydidit]

Grazon... it is a Dow Chemical herbicide... aminopyralid. Clopyralid is also a persistant herbicide. Unfortunately the half life on some persistant herbicides can be over a year. Sometimes the only option is to dig it out. It shows up in cow and horse manure that have been grazed on fields sprayed w these products. Google Picloram

[@brandiisbell7746]

please please help. in absolute ignorance I went to a Rancher's born last week and got over 300 lb of dehydrated dried up cow manure. I was so proud of my work I came home and shared it with my neighbor and best friend on her in ground garden. and now I realize I have contaminated both of our Gardens with toxic chemical manure. what in the world can I do I have contaminated my friend and my own garden. please please give me some advice we're too old to start over. we are two senior women and I have contaminated our Gardens. what should we do. I thought I was helping and I did the worst thing I could have done

[@DeepSouthHomestead]

First, find out if the hay the cows ate was sprayed with chemicals. If so, find out what kind. If the hay was not sprayed, then praise God.

[@brandiisbell7746]

@@DeepSouthHomestead thank you so very much for responding. And when I find out can I reach out to you again?

[@debbiealtman4572]

Sorry about the garden having toxic. Blessings to both of you. Love the gardens you have. TFS

[@reneebrown2968]

Danny why are you taking out your tomatoes? I wanted to cry and i saw you pulling them. Near me everyone has problems growing tomatoes. I can grow a great bush but the bugs eat then down to the ground.

[@tomv7017]

how did you figure out this was contaminating your food?

[@inderwink]

I ❤️ the thunderstorm soundtrack for this post. In fact, I’d watch a video of your greenhouse in the rain all day long. So peaceful! ❤️👩🏻‍🌾

[@livesoutdoors1708]

So sorry about the toxin. Grateful that you are using an unfortunate experience to teach the rest of us. I’ve used raised beds for decades so know the hard work of replacing soil. Your lizard is an anole, I had them as pets as a child.

[@charmainemontgomery582]

Leaf blower works great 😊 Too bad your plants need jerked out because of chemicals in the hay 😞

[@donnaocasio45]

I understand the heartbreak, all the care and effort put into it all that has been harvested already 😭😭🤯😩😫😖

[@sherrytucker7102]

As you pulled the toms, I noticed the peat pots you seeded into were still intact...that is precisely why I never use them.

[@mickimartin8841]

I think those were empty toilet paper rolls. Used to deter cutworms.

[@DeepSouthHomestead]

We don't use peat pots.

[@Kristina-mm9ih]

I am just thankful that the Lord showed you the truth about the wide spread use Grazon, and it being in cow manure. You have helped many of us avoid this issue. It is so maddening, the entire reason we grow our own food is to avoid this type of poison. Please give us a new update on if your corn is looking like it will bounce back from the storm. Fingers crossed.

[@naeemah2027]

For us who don't and can't create our own manure source what type should we use from the store that doesn't have Grazone???

[@armymobilityofficer9099]

There is no way to know for sure until it is too late. The only way is to find a trustworthy cattle producer that does not put it on their fields AND that does not feed their animals hay that was sprayed.

[@jojoihrke]

What kind or brand is your greenhouse?? What is the dimensions??

[@jasonhuschle471]

As a subsistence farmer deen growing a garden for the last 40 years .I can tell you that his green beans for more than likely over fertilized they do nothing to the soil when it decays what he needs to do is test the soil to find out whether there's too much acidity in it because of over-fertilization. Also it could be nothing wrong with his green beans they have just reached the end of their life and start to die.

[@DirtyHarry771]

You brought up another good question. I've heard that tomato plants are not good to use for compost. Even if they are disease free.

[@albanymountainhomestead]

It's true

[@DeepSouthHomestead]

Yes it's true.

[@jksatte]

I wonder if that's true of all nightshades or just tomatoes and potatoes.

[@Green.Country.Agroforestry]

So many gardeners are awakening to the realization that those traditional staples of organic gardening, manure and straw might not be safe to add to the garden anymore. In my gardening efforts, I have been experimenting with alternative methods for building organic matter, and achieving a good balance of nutrients without manure: I've got a 2-year process for making liquid fertilizer, a 1-year process for making a slow-release side dressing of 10-10-10 (minimum, with a variable high end), and another process in the works, perhaps 5 years total, that should produce the very richest soil - and make some good food at the same time. Hey, despite the setbacks, that greenhouse is looking good, folks!

[@jksatte]

I would live to hear more about your process.