For everyone interested in this gun: you DO NOT need the long barrel, the gun already has a 50+ meter max damage range without it, and the barrel only adds another 11 meters, it's MUCH MUCH better to take the merc foregrip instead, to make the gun a lot more controllable and a lot more mobile with the hidden movement speed it adds. Additionally, the new season 5 blueprint gives you absolutely fantastic iron sights which lets you keep extended mags and equip the ADS stock, you will not be pushing close range with this gun and it already has AR sprint out speed, and the ADS stock gives a colossal 50 MS ADS reduction as well, the gun doesn't have to be slow, you can make it directly compete with ARs in terms of mobility without losing any lethality
@samcowin74174 жыл бұрын
You should start your own KZbin channel. Cover the things most others don't know about. Could be very interesting.
@ivanfranebijelic70094 жыл бұрын
@@samcowin7417 Not like that would bring much traction unless I had a big name backing me... The game's current state is proof of that
@steroe79654 жыл бұрын
What’s the blueprint called?
@ivanfranebijelic70094 жыл бұрын
@@steroe7965 Cover of Night or something like that? I don't fully remember but it's a free blueprint on Tier 1 of the season 5 pass, everyone should have it literally just for turning on the game during season 5
@steroe79654 жыл бұрын
Ivan Frane Bijelić yea I just checked and I have it. I don’t have much unlocked for it so I may have to go on shipment and unlock the suppressor and mags
@Dr_Z3NlTH4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I use this gun a lot, one change I would make to the class is replacing the 25.4 barrel with the stippleded grip/cqc stock. The SA87 already has the fastest base muzzle velocity in the game so the monolithic alone gets the job done.
@Dr_Z3NlTH4 жыл бұрын
@Julia Slane Agreed but for warzone the bigger impact the mono has to ADS isn't as severe. Also the little extra range plus muzzle velocity suit the longer range engagements in BR.
@Predalien1954 жыл бұрын
@Julia Slane If you're using the shorter barrel, it makes a difference.
@Omar_054 жыл бұрын
Is there a website or something where I can see the muzzle velocity of all guns
@cjadams52504 жыл бұрын
Omar look up cod gun data, they have most guns and how all the attachments affect them and you can compare ttk and dps and such
@Omar_054 жыл бұрын
CJ Adams thanks man
@snake71564 жыл бұрын
Westie: hey the SA87 is pretty good British army: *enraged indistinguishable British screaming*
@bubbled56304 жыл бұрын
This is why I loved bf4 the variety of engagement distances allowed for use of just about any weapons you liked and it's also why I love how warzone plays for the majority of guns can be kitted out to be flexible across a variety of distances and play styles, the ttk is slow enough and most guns are genuinely usable so you can often leverage the terrain to your advantage the recon bounties are a fantastic way to go about doing this
@BuffDaddySmoove4 жыл бұрын
I always try and tell them. Fishbone is dope. They never listen.
@bigGyan214 жыл бұрын
I agree, there was something special about fishbone....
@VMonkies4 жыл бұрын
I agree, I used the SA87 of my own to great effect from the beginning. Ironically, it was the mag size that did it for me, the stopping power of an LMG but no need to fiddle with the reload for an hour and a half.
@hattchetman16264 жыл бұрын
Not as dope as that ram though
@destinyascension6954 жыл бұрын
Missing its season 4 thermal optic, unfortunate.
@questionyourself7184 жыл бұрын
How do you Control the Recoil on the Weapon?? When i pick it up the Barrel is in the Sky after 3 Shots..
@mwuhahahahaaa8544 жыл бұрын
I’ve been telling people to use this for about a month and all my friends try it for 5 minutes and forget about it, I’ve been waiting for someone on KZbin to discover it
@ryannorthrup47254 жыл бұрын
Thanks for trying out all these non-meta weapons! You and tomographic are both really great for this kind of content and it's so refreshing to see you guys slay with guns so often dismissed by other streamers. Looking forward to what's next!
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r4 жыл бұрын
Westie: Recommends a gun Me: Uses that gun and melts people
@kylexwlsn83724 жыл бұрын
Tried this yesterday.... Loved it! It absolutely melts people! So underrated! I ranked it up to like rank 25 or something in just one day of warzone, that's how much I loved it!!
@vincentroyoshea23154 жыл бұрын
Fyi if you keep using it tac laser/18.2/12.4/barrels and cqc stock increase ads the most
@kylexwlsn83724 жыл бұрын
@@vincentroyoshea2315 bruh I know how gun mechanics work in game but thanks anyway I guess.
@vincentroyoshea23154 жыл бұрын
@@kylexwlsn8372 i only said because the ads attachments have different physics on the sa87 than other guns
@vincentroyoshea23154 жыл бұрын
Like if I go ext mag long barrel mono suppressor and rds. Cqc stock and tac laser add more ads than stippled does
@vincentroyoshea23154 жыл бұрын
Depending on the other attachments the ads attachments are more or less effective depending which one you choose
@Ashfielder4 жыл бұрын
Absolute beast of a gun, and it carries the home nation bias advantage as well.
@benskinner36074 жыл бұрын
Toby Wood that’s why I use it, love it!
@coxy37654 жыл бұрын
Surely though, to use it in trios or quads you’ll just pair up with an MP5 or another smg if you wanna take those rushes into buildings? Also absolutely love the SA87 in this game
@triggamanful4 жыл бұрын
This gun is a monster and I've been telling people about it
@tankiller96384 жыл бұрын
Triggaman same its been lowkey amazing since Warzone released
@HydratedPelican944 жыл бұрын
Lads you gotta keep these gems quiet. We don’t everyone using it
@triggamanful4 жыл бұрын
@@HydratedPelican94 cat's out the bag now thanks to Westie 😅
@twoboss73774 жыл бұрын
PC94 18 the PKM, M91, Holger, and Bruen are better than this gun and that’s just for the LMG class. There’s a reason nobody runs this gun. It shoots slow, has low damage, small mag, and has a bad ADS speed. This gun is far from a gem. I would love to see more people use this so I can absolutely destroy them and get free kills
@triggamanful4 жыл бұрын
@@twoboss7377 u literally have no idea what ur saying
@Happy_Tunafish4 жыл бұрын
I think my favorite thing about Westie's content, is that there's no bullshit in it. Other KZbinrs would go on and on about nonsense to stretch the vid, or show you game play of a weapon that isn't the one in the title. I watched someones MG34 video yesterday, and he spent the whole game using the Bruen, with an MG sitting sadly unused in his pocket. Westie gets right into what you clicked on, and I respect that.
@CertainlySpooky4 жыл бұрын
Everyone sleeps on this gun, but it absolutely melts people
@Mr_Him4 жыл бұрын
Never in my time playing this game have I seen anyone even mention this gun. They're some hidden gems in this game's gun collection, but people just stick with the meta most of the time. Edit: Spelling
@talhaahmed78314 жыл бұрын
Yh I used this to unlock the Bruen lol
@valiant39174 жыл бұрын
I agree it’s a brilliant weapon, especially when no one else uses it, makes u feel more powerful 😂
@Fistageddon4 жыл бұрын
For me, one of the best things about the SA87 is the sound it makes, sounds so grunty, even with a silencer. Probably my favourite weapon in the game.
@ObnoxiousCamoToe4 жыл бұрын
Every time I pick up the Fishbone, I put it into semi-auto and use it as a marksman rifle
@thesavagegummybear73414 жыл бұрын
Damn there goes my secret weapon, I’ve had a ton of fun with it my self
@shivrajsingh72064 жыл бұрын
I've never thought I would see sa87 and monster in the same sentence but damn
@jbrodie19804 жыл бұрын
I got it gold purely because of the fact that I have used this rifle on multiple range days and completed field craft and weapon handling test ( knowing how to strip the rifle, clean the rifle and all of the weapon drills etc ) and therefore I somewhat have a personal relationship to this and I like switching my load outs from the “meta” to this from time to time and once put into the correct hands then this can be deadly to summarise in one word. I just wish that this had some sort of buff from how slow this is and even perhaps swapping it to the AR department.
@dandel22264 жыл бұрын
The majority of weapons are actually pretty good with the right attachments. Its just unlocking the attachments that take some time. This is one of the good ones. Great vid.
@gabrielrenteria82564 жыл бұрын
The fishbone is beast! My homies already know to ping that for me, its actually pretty beastly
@Totes_ma_Goat4 жыл бұрын
Man I was hoping no one would pick up on this rifle. I been using it for awhile now in both MP and WZ. It is a beast!
@RyzenoID4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, SA87 is very-very-very underrated gun, I personally love it for Mid-Long range use, whether I play it in Solo / Duos / Quads! This gun is fire!!!
@npne12534 жыл бұрын
It's a good thing that they animated the bolt of the gun on the blueprint versions at least they put some effort into it
@ridhosamudro21994 жыл бұрын
Why does that blueprint design have an ambi charging handle on the left side of a bullpup gun?
@righteousindignation4 жыл бұрын
Ignorant game designers
@FriskyDecisions4 жыл бұрын
So you can have sticking out bits to catch on things when you’re running in the field
@the_bridges4 жыл бұрын
Really wish this had a daniel defence rail
@guiltycheese5754 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using this for a while. I’m glad people are using it!
@underhandedjoe5684 жыл бұрын
Hey glad to see you took my Tweet into consideration! I've been successfully using the SA87 for a good while now and was surprised to see almost no one else using it. It's a lot better than people give it credit for.
@buddermonger20004 жыл бұрын
Finally someone notices this thing. It's been statistically amazing and personally I've always loved it. Better to take off the barrel and go merc foregrip. It can be kitted out as a heavy AR but it'll hit like a proper LMG.
@chubsolo73834 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you gave the SA87 a go. I like using non meta weapons in CoD and BF. Including this particular weapon. And I have hoped for you, Jack, Stodeh or Tomo to roll this gun. And show people that yes, it is an LMG. It is not as nimble as an AR or SMG. But it absolutely slaps people! I use it in multiplayer as well, a bit like a fully automatic DMR. Good on you Westie. Such a legend.
@wretch13004 жыл бұрын
Westie, please make a video on the Holger. I feel like it's really satisfying to use and quite effective, especially in solos.
@SpunkyGo0se4 жыл бұрын
It's stats just aren't competitive.
@wretch13004 жыл бұрын
@@SpunkyGo0se I know it's not the best weapon, but it's really fun to use
@derwerbungindiekommentares77514 жыл бұрын
I already see me gettin melted with this gun while using this gun
@jackmoseley314 жыл бұрын
Westie, can we have a vid covering your audio setttings pls? It seems so crispy and the footsteps are a lot clearer than when I play
@chrisdotdash51544 жыл бұрын
[PC] I just got it to gold. I think it’s pretty good, but it just takes a lot of skill to use. I still love my PKM/RAM-7 loadout. The RAM-7 shreds people in close and medium range with almost no recoil. Love the vid!💯
@willcraft91844 жыл бұрын
Sa87 was one of my go to guns in season 4, it's just so powerful more damage than any similar guns. I used a foregrip over the scope as I thought the irons were ok. No one believed me when I said it was good. Glad it's getting some exposure
@sharbanu14 жыл бұрын
sa87 can actually be used with the single fire pretty effectively as well. Catch someone at range with the single fire and you can still fire pretty fast but generally with very controllable recoil.
@takodac24694 жыл бұрын
I love how people finally use the vlk now do to its stats, I use it just because you know... It's Russian and it fits with the Russian weapons well.
@SumCanadianDude4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting out these off meta weapon videos! I have always been leveling and trying a wide variety of weapons since launch, as using a single weapon too much gets quite boring. It's nice to see how these weapons behave with the proper attachments. Keep it up Westie!
@Leo-de4ju4 жыл бұрын
the "cover of night" from the bp has fantastic iron sights similar to the m4
@SpunkyGo0se4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to stop you right there, the M4 does not have fantastic iron sights.
@Leo-de4ju4 жыл бұрын
@@SpunkyGo0se i like them
@s90004howie4 жыл бұрын
@@SpunkyGo0se M4 blueprints have much clearer iron sights than the default one
@nathanskinner41004 жыл бұрын
I love have westie always gives the loadout at the start of the vid unlike many other youtubers who make u wait till the end but i still watch the entire the vid though. Keep up the amazing loadout westie, peace out.
@animalxINSTINCT894 жыл бұрын
If you REALLy want an off-meta powerhouse....ODEN + Colossus Suppressor + Longest Barrel + Standard Sniper Scope + Stippled Grip + ADS Stock I call it ODEN's Eye, and it absolutely SHREDS in Warzone (just not in solos). It lets you have a MEAN medium range TTK and at long range it works kinda like a light DMR with the tradeoff bonus of using AR ammo
@bloody_dagger33174 жыл бұрын
There goes my favorite lmg
@bennettfleegal26924 жыл бұрын
the oden is good too. It shoots a little slower but hitting upper body/headshots are deadly. Lower body hits hard but it still shreds.
@donovan516174 жыл бұрын
I’ve tried this but i feel like it has the same issue as the mg 34. U have to choose between a controllable but slow, or a faster but uncontrollable weapon and there isn’t really a good middle ground
@patrickjones92784 жыл бұрын
If you grind multiplayer to get the right setup then you start noticing the hidden potential with this gun, same goes for MG34.
@olafb.29294 жыл бұрын
Good to see some others weapons than the usual stuff.
@elijahm36884 жыл бұрын
I found it very fitting that you're featuring this gun, as it's part of the SA 80 family of rifle, which houses the L85 - the standard issue British Army Service Rifle.
@wabisaaby4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Have been leveling this gun for the past couple of days, and I feel like it's the almost-Oden-but-with-60-rounds. Ouch.
@HydratedPelican944 жыл бұрын
Why Westie why 😭. I was hoping my hidden baby would stay hidden 😂😂😂
@Keough244 жыл бұрын
I used this load out last night and I had a great time with it. I shredded so many people’s armor when I got shots on them. Thanks for the video and recommendation!
@adlerdefender80674 жыл бұрын
I love videos like this because it shows that you don't need the most OP gun to get some kills, can't wait to get my hands on this build... Personally I use the Ram the Scar and the Uzi...
@k3nny2784 жыл бұрын
Finally my fav gun getting the recognition it deserves
@c05rs4 жыл бұрын
i used the sa87 since season 3, glad to see it's getting the love it deserves!
@x_cadillac_xx-25514 жыл бұрын
I've know about this SA, I've got it Gold for awhile. Its hits hard!
@chrismoore4884 жыл бұрын
I've been using this gun for a while and I love it. Idk why more people dont use it.
@williamolik4 жыл бұрын
i thought everyone called this gun "Thatcher's gun"
@lothlorienspy4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@sinachilles90864 жыл бұрын
This raycon is going everywhere
@sim64464 жыл бұрын
this is my favourite underrated weapon you dont wanna know what happens when you load stopping power rounds into it
@Fogster374 жыл бұрын
Stopping power adds recoil
@jayquickscope44464 жыл бұрын
Use it as as a marksmen rifle in single fire and it is one of the best long range weapons
@djangofett48554 жыл бұрын
It’s the Oden if it had proper extended mags
@RusnakAutoDesign4 жыл бұрын
Swap the barrel for the bipod. Better ads speed and tons of recoil help while crouched.
@lt.danbearparticipates24304 жыл бұрын
If you pair it with an smg and use something other than the barrel you can get a more balanced weapon. I use the merc foregrip to reduce the vertical recoil
@WVLF_SPANKY4 жыл бұрын
The Ash 12.7 is still a naughty boy
@goldo11074 жыл бұрын
You can melee that barrier away lol.
@jonmy3574 жыл бұрын
Keep going with the lesser used guns, some are hidden gems in my opinion.
@Dan-qy6xw3 жыл бұрын
Thank you I love all of your videos I hope you keep making warzone videos even after cold war comes out!
@nicholassimone34704 жыл бұрын
Got 11 kills in Trios and placed 3rd this thing is absolutely disgusting and I love it!
@utkua.84744 жыл бұрын
I have been using MG 34s lately. You might wanna check it out. A lot of recoil but when controlled its got one of the fastest TTKs in WZ.
@goldo11074 жыл бұрын
I was about to say it works in solos and duos pretty well, but I tried it warzone and not so much especially when you play with a squad that has a play style where they only want to fight people at really long ranges. You get bruened up too much. I did really well with it in solos and a few times in duos tho. I don't put a scope on it tho cause I like to push medium range fights in solos as much as I can.
@SirValithor944 жыл бұрын
“No! No! NOO! Leave me alone. 😂😂😂
@Westie4 жыл бұрын
A classic Warzone reaction 😁
@vhalkarna60664 жыл бұрын
I’m genuinely going to try this one, I also love the off meta guns!! Congrats on being so close to 600k
@keinstein694 жыл бұрын
Offmeta weapons make the best video's!
@dovetman20474 жыл бұрын
Oh no the pros have found the sa87
@orphncriplr4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Ive been waiting for someone to do a vid on the SA87!
@CloudyB_MT4 жыл бұрын
Max range SA87 is literally a 3 hit gun in multiplayer. I use it as a marksman rifle with a sniper scope. Will surprise snipers 100% of the time.
@ryanrubidge58624 жыл бұрын
To be honest, this is one of my main guns I use in warzone. Even in the 3 or 4 person squads.
@soccermonkey6334 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you try the Oden. Apologies if you already have. I don't see it. But I always enjoy picking it up as ground loot.
@seahorsepuncher33464 жыл бұрын
Keep this stuff coming great stuff!
@valiant39174 жыл бұрын
Brilliant weapon, Personally I run it in trios with a mono suppressor, tac laser, red dot, slight of hand and a 60 round mag.
@marvinminaya90434 жыл бұрын
Glad the SA87 is getting some love and appreciation it’s not a bad gun that’s one of my favorite guns since the alpha I just wish they’d buff that ROF just a little bit lol
@kyleh8774 жыл бұрын
I love the sa87 in hard-core, 1 hit kill almost everytime, the only issue I have is the blueprints that have the cooking handle on each side of the upper tmh, because you'd break your jaw every time you fire the weapon, then again i use it as apart of my job so there is also that But if you build it like an assault rifle its decent at close range as well, hip fire is surprisingly good with it, I've hot mine built like the british army standard issue, with the second unlockable barrel, any of the down grips, slight of hand, integrated sight (the one with the red dot on top) and a laser sight to get that aim stubbility
@stephenlim79554 жыл бұрын
Im just wondering, what could be the best way to set up the SA87 for trios or quads? And what gun to pair it with🤔🤔🤔
@Niko-cr5ms4 жыл бұрын
I tried the AK like this: monolithic suppressor, 5.45x39mm ammo, grip with less recoil, slight of hand. This gun is better than the M4 imo. You definitely have to try this. It doesnt look really exotic but it is really enjoyable
@markusk10154 жыл бұрын
The AK is slept on. With the Romanian barrel it’s insane in warzone
@khairulazri2784 жыл бұрын
this gun first bullet kick so hard
@Westie4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a strong recoil upwards!
@acasual91514 жыл бұрын
They fixed the gun glitches:)
@slanggemz24194 жыл бұрын
Currently leveling this and the bisson up, off meta weapons are way more fun to play with if you don't mind getting smoked while leveling them up haha. Your pkm build was a beast i use it often in plunder :)
@TheBossInDaBuilding4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy non-meta-gameplay
@Solid-Snake-sh1ls4 жыл бұрын
Exposing all my loadouts😂
@theredcorn86564 жыл бұрын
The SA87 and ODEN two of the best guns in the game
@reeo57554 жыл бұрын
The sa87 needs a buff for sure.
@UpperAquatics4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that you're a Verified Brave Publisher! I sent some BAT your way my dude! Keep up the good work xD
@chrisdotdash51544 жыл бұрын
You can also melee deployable cover/shields.
@bread_37374 жыл бұрын
You should try the holdger as it can beam people at mid to close range
@GhostDean1744 жыл бұрын
Finally people are using this gun i been using this for awhile awesome gun better than the crap mp5 and grau and the An 94
@bobmills23714 жыл бұрын
Wish this had been kept a secret. It’s my favourite warzone gun and it’s been under the radar.
@wiedzmin29084 жыл бұрын
Finally someone started listening to me. Noice. Next one SCAR long range.
@Predalien1954 жыл бұрын
He already did the SCAR not long ago. Didn't go long range with it much but it was discussed.
@TMn-ei4yt4 жыл бұрын
3:11 Ah, the season 1 background music, does anyone else miss it?
@halkon04 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@ggggddddhhhh3 жыл бұрын
Honestly been using it as an smg with the smallest barrel and It slaps
@tijmenvanlier94294 жыл бұрын
The ak smg is a fun gu. To use : no stock stippeld 40 round monolithic merc
@michaelgroux8394 жыл бұрын
Been using this for a long time and people are just starting to use it lol
@Predalien1954 жыл бұрын
I just wish we could get a proper SUSAT sight for the SA87. I always like building my guns to military standards or a real world build(should one exist) for the weapon. Always was a tad bit disappointed it didn't have the option.
@ReALiVE244 жыл бұрын
Try using AUG with 556 and the Merc Foregrip U got AR Damage with SMG Hip Fire weapon And its a Beast in Warzone and Plunder