This MaxPax vs Clem Finals is AMAZING! StarCraft 2

[@crabapplemcnasty3546]

Just wanted to say I really love your sense of humor and style of casting these games. "M, the most dangerous letter in the Starcraft alphabet, besides in addition to the letter G. Few things end the game so quickly." = top tier wit

[@hristoborisov3713]

i didnt get that joke, is it a hotkey thing?

[@tsukiyumio3467]

@@hristoborisov3713 M for marine, marauder, medivac and G for gg lol

[@luishurtado2170]

49:38 LUL

[@dustytrag]

@@tsukiyumio3467 I think he means in addition to the letter G as in GM, (grandmaster). Love winter

[@lagduck2209]

32:06 OMG

[@HarryTheOwlcat]

24:56 "shout out to my blind viewers - I kind of have to" lol

[@kurisu313]

I literally laughed out loud. Funniest thing I've heard in ages

[@AJ-ri7tb]

That last game was nuts. MaxPax is just awesome

[@unclenchasbestos]

The DTs doing something was amazing in itself but IMO Maxpax going back to Collosi was key to actually whittling Clems army down in the late game.

[@ZC.Andrew]

DTs do a lot, frequently. They're great units. MaxPax himself has proved many times how OP they can be.

[@DaevorTheDevoted]

12:01 "Well, probes are not the ideal counter to marauders and hellions. You can write that down somewhere".

[@thewealthofnations4827]

The winterisms are one of the best parts of this channel. They need to be catalogued.

[@joshmartin5537]

Maxpax vs Clem my new favorite matchup. Seems to be happening more regularly too 🎉

[@S3IIL3CT]

rarely have we seen such highly skilled and balanced pvts

[@firestarter000001]

Same. It replaced for me Showtime vs Heromarine.

[@jermstergaming8780]

Sometimes I'm a blind viewer, I have no problem just listening to Winter cast!

[@SuperPlantSC2]

I see dark templar on thumbnail i click the video

[@kevincol808]

"MaxPax is just streets ahead" And Clem is streets behind

[@ggmg7178]

Thank you for casting this great series!

[@simontullberg9449]

Thanks!

[@pooglechen3251]

48:18 Has Winter casted an offline event before. I can imagine Tasteless cracking up if he heard this

[@DiscipleofVenser1992]

DTs are rough especially with blink. Spread you out when controlled right and it's very difficult to have the right amount everywhere. Clem did great though. Wonder if his TPM will spike now against toss. Lol

[@hermihermi5665]

I just wanna appreciate the "nevermore" - raven-comment. Congrats, that's very clever.

[@-mokelo-8421]

I see MaxPax, I click like.

[@cracgor]

This pairing is likely the most entertaining to watch. This video made my day a little bit better.

[@hexaquras9374]

the herO vs Dark part of the EU

[@johnnguyen6224]

Clem always be like :"I will f$!*king do it again" whenever his cheese doesn't work the first time.

[@benismann]

mild SPOILER: Clem got hit by a disruptor shot? Like actually hit, not just lost a marine or two, but actually got hit? How's that possible?

[@UrielAngeli147]

I think it may have been the confusion and the map coloration, he wasn't looking for it until after the hit went through

[@the13thfox46]

lol, "like repairing our units" "no we are too proud for that"

[@ninjabreadman22]

Liked for DTs Commented for DTs Watched for DTs

[@ymc86]

“Probes are not the ideal counter to marauders and hellions. You can write that down somewhere.” I died

[@cubandarknez]

top notch wit and humor

[@SamGray]

My first Starcraft disc says version 1.0, therefore I'm probably older than Clem's parents.

[@3Gfotos]

I've never tried this online before. Now I've tried this 5 times in a row and was "cheested" 4 times in a row or it was canceled because of Protos v. Protos. :D

[@BostonRubyEric]

Shout out to my blind subscribers... I kind of have to... is an amazing ad-lib

[@JROCK2000-wuv-u]

MaxPax aggresive and clever playstyle has me rooting for protoss, which is a rarity, super fun games

[@Kosss2001]

That was a good series!

[@fabrizio12]

the joy when life is hard, but ou wake up on a sunday morning to a max pax clem final with winter 🤗

[@brownriceprod]

"....and the wookie said, 'it'll be about tree-fitty.'

[@Catssonova]

I love the live reaction shots after game 2

[@ghregoryk4830]

clem really doesn't know when to surrender 😄

[@christopherscott6383]

Yes!!! Winter, I'm late, but here. 0:53🎉Let's Go!!

[@ferguskennedy3135]

"Shout out to my blind viewers. *Cough*. Kind of have to" is Brilliant

[@DuppyBoii187]

Winters casting has really become top tier.

[@SerbanOprescu]

This was extremely high quality. Makes me wonder if I truly know ow to play Starcraft.

[@SaccoBelmonte]

That was a hectic series!

[@michaelhunter4446]

And a new car! Showcase Showdown after this! I heard what you said, Winter

[@spokoman23]

Wow, their level of play is insane. GG kids

[@insomniagaming9588]

omg the last game was so beautiful

[@RandiOW]

What a series wow

[@keyes8495]

All he needed was 3 turrets to choke out the Phoenixes to the north but he opted for a 4th command center. Greed kills.

[@satou7552]

Thanks for the upload, here have a like.

[@blakeblake5127]

Some of the highest level SC2 I've ever seen wow !

[@JROCK2000-wuv-u]

"Shoutout to my blind viewers, kinda have to" this is my favorite wisecrack I've heard recently, gold line

[@JasonAuger-gs4ve]

Jimmy youre at tree fiddy 🎉

[@vincentrochette1387]

MaxPax really continues to impress

[@scottmills4164]

I can never get over how bad Archons are at the pro level, and how good they are in the metal leagues. It's dramatic.

[@the13thfox46]

I love seeing awesome protoss play

[@rhNchek]

😮that was fun to watch

[@commandertex4389]

'shout out to my blind viewers. kinda have to. " lmao, sick games i love watching clem max pax because me and my friend who play tvp always end up doing 1/2 base all ins alot so its good to see even at the top there is no escape from that. love the casts keep it up!

[@queze]

lOVING THE CONFUSED REACTION AFTER GAME TWO Xd

[@YuNherd]

always loved cheesenanigans, theyr intense openings

[@petrus19881]

That dt at the end is so dirty

[@RamziHammoud]

That was a beautiful match

[@korpscomacho]

Never understood why terrans always hold out on making a couple of turrets when they see phoenixes.

[@arbymatignas9896]

Spoiler shield like this to block top comment spoiler

[@darkd8528]

Spoiler shield against wilshireanasurimbor!!

[@georgeromaniajr.2680]

The first battle of the first game is how starcraft should be played. Non stop action

[@TheRecurrence]

"this is one of those 20 IQ plays that's so dumb it rolls around to being genius" LMAO

[@cathulionetharn5139]

Thank You Om nom nom

[@Overi4096]

I really miss moments when you drunk water from huge five-liter bottle)

[@LegionFarming]

when you see a marine, you can write that down, it means its not a reaper O_O

[@skiptoacceptancemdarlin]

Maximum Package is my favorite

[@PandaRizzArg]

25 kills DT !!! 😂

[@keep_walking_on_grass]

Sure we know scrab station. I remember Dimaga games versus....players whose names I don't remember.

[@qT1ify]

Winter needs more like on videos guys plz

[@CherryAlias]

“Shout out to my blind viewers, erm I kind of have to” 😂

[@AndrewKim-w7s]

Finally, MaxPax wins one vs Clem

[@edwinboswinkei2297]

That game 5!

[@tolerancegaming279]

More scans than a Costco checkout 😅😅

[@brettmanning3494]

Damn loch Ness monster

[@firestarter000001]

Im probably blased, but what i feel very strongly the difference between Protoss and Terran balance: Terrans proxies in game 2 and you dont scout, you die (game 1 was an anomaly, im sure nobody else would have defended it, and even MaxPax could botch the same defence another time, it was prefect). Terran dont scout Protoss proxy in game 3, they loose some economy ... Terran defense both early and later seems so tough to break naturally.

[@wuschu5563]

i mean, clem did have a safety bunkier and pulled workers immediately, which resulted in 10 worker deaths putting Maxpax ahead. Maxpax made the shield battery too late in game 2 which resulted in his units dying before he could pull the probes, so he died immediately.

[@firestarter000001]

@@wuschu5563 a good point, on other hand it all comes down to tools for me: Terrans can salvage bunker, so its more easily affordable. They can mass repair the bunker, making out of a shield battery a laughing stock.

[@wuschu5563]

@@firestarter000001 that is fair, but bunkier requires units in it to work while battery doesn't and can be overcharged. I think each has their strengths and weaknesses. In the context of the matchup, terrans don't have many cheeses that work on protoss and the few that does can be countered by single battery. If you do it right you won't even need to pull probes. As you could see bunkier did not prevent clem from still taking economic damage from maxpax.

[@firestarter000001]

@@wuschu5563 That last part i cant agree on. The shield battery helps a bit, but even 3 marauders can focus a shield battery incredibly fast. Various 1 base and 2 base all ins with tanks laugh at shield batteries, because either the Protoss will sit at the battery and be shelled to death, or they need to attack and get out of range of the battery. I see it in pro games, and die to it often whenever i play the ladder (dia2)

[@wuschu5563]

​ @firestarter000001 i said cheese, not all-ins. A marauder proxy like the one clem did can't focus down a battery if you any units. Marauders have no healing and have to walk up past your units already shooting at them. I mean, they probably can kill the battery if they commit, but it will cost them so much hp you will defend anyways. And it's not like planetary fortess or bunkier can defend all-in on their own... edit: just to clarify, when i said "a single battery" what i meant was "a battery with any units", obviously battery can't defend on it's own since it can't shoot.

[@LunaCelyn]

The DT.

[@thevanky8311]

big fan, unrelated, more mecha streams because I need strats to steal

[@bothpinkysbroken]

Nice!

[@macallanswinney186]

When I've been watching for 350 Videos 😅

[@wilshireanasurimbor3068]

Woooooow. Feels like its been a long time since protoss won a finals, and against Clem as well. Maxpax is looking great.

[@luishurtado2170]

Thanks for the spoiler... guess I should've not read comments yet.

[@boristherin4104]

@@luishurtado2170 good guess, it's very smart to read comment if u dont want to be spoiled cry baby

[@pabloduran2674]

True thing! Amazing game! Why would you read the comments of a video you haven't watched. Obviously the comments are about the video. What would we discuss here? Our underwear color? Hahah

[@oldoddjobs]

​@@pabloduran2674 The human eye has a mind of its own

[@shawnyewest]

Yt shows a top comment without even clicking the comments button. Tough

[@alinmeleandra3175]

Disrupter: the worst design for a unit in this game (because it's a "hail mary" type of unit)... Ghost: the most imba unit second to Queen

[@WisdomProclaimer]

"This is one of those 20 IQ plays that's so low on the scale that it rolls back around to being genius... The Forest Gumpian school of terran strategy". LOL 🤣 Quote of the century! Now that's good news casting. (Better than the Brenda, Karen & Susan gimick).

[@sin7317]

Omg that zealot charge pun I’m dying 😂

[@muhammadnuralhafiz]

Where?

[@Broockle]

is that a Kurzgesagt shirt? 🌍

[@justinpeterson7246]

I swear protoss units are made of paper and spit. They just seem so fragile compared to terran.

[@deaddog3676]

i wasnt a fan of protoss untill Maxpax recent glo up lately lol hes sooooo good

[@FilthyBadh]

I see clem. I watch. No doubt.

[@EspacioInterpretado]

"shotout to my blind ...viewers!! hahaha

[@reznya2700]

Spoiler shield since top comment is a spoiler

[@OhmicContact]

Spoiler guard

[@lumingchan9301]

>Spoiler shield

[@kobragangbit]

its me Winky. Sorry for talking crazy in General. its still Trump Though

[@orangepearlf40]

Spoiler: PVT the most scrappiest lets end it quickly matchup.

[@hivetech4903]

PvP and ZvZ not only say hi, they say get of the way 😂

[@corypopoff865]

I was like number 1350

[@alx2903]

5:25 why even Clem using Ravens as idiot? Instead of keeping Raven alive and using it vs Observers and Dark Templars, he sends it to the enemy to deal zero damage. And this happens every time I see Raven, rather than even Clem being so stupid that he doesn’t understand that mobile detection is better than killing 5 probs? god damn

[@oldoddjobs]

Yeah what would he know

[@hivetech4903]

If you think Raven's can be "kept" through to the late game maybe you need to rank up higher than plat. Also there's the basic logic flaw of a Raven not being able cover all the paths a DT could take 😂

[@alx2903]

@@hivetech4903 you get an advantage in a different way anyway. With Raven at the base, you at least interrupt the free vision of your production, when Clem’s Raven died, he had an Observer flying freely around the base. Moreover, you say that “Raven not being able to cover all the paths a DT could take”, but that’s not the point? Maxpax always separates the Dark Templars into different corners, forcing Clem to spend one scan per one templar, Maxpax also often destroys turrets as a counterattack, and you can see how much time it takes Clem to fight back, he spends scans, returns part of the army, and all in order to deal with five-six templars. And the main question is, what is the dispute about? Do you seriously want to say that destroying five or six probs with Raven's turrets (and he is kinda slow and might even be intercepted) is better than denying vision and Dark Templars? And the late game is the late game, there the Terran has a ton of scans, but this is the fifth minute, this one Raven gives you a certain reliability in the next 3-4 minutes, but it’s worth it.

[@wuschu5563]

Also, Raven is a deterrent. I don't think Maxpax would be so freely sending Dts to Clem's main if he knew there was a raven...

[@REDRAGON12345]

Wild how underpowered Terran still is

[@hivetech4903]

Can't tell if you're trolling but Terran is only slightly under-powered, Protoss is 3% favored at pro level. Balance is very good for all MU overall according to the latest from aligulac.

[@benismann]

true and real, terran is underpowered and toss is OP, should probably buff EMP to strip all shields by default

[@PJOZeus]

For how much repairing units is talked about, doesnt really provide that much value Repair cost + Repair time + travel time (pulling off map or pulling away from mineral line) +reintegrating to mineral line and the scv shuffle to line everyone up Feels like it might just about equal out, for more apm, compared to just building another and more production Only real use case is max out where you can't just build another, or mine out where the repair cost holds a larger value than mining

[@wuschu5563]

The biggest problem is probably attention that it requires to repair and then actually send workers back to mine. Repair is actually big, the most known use case is bunkiers vsP and planetaries vsZ. Then you have reparing units you can no longer produce after you switch addons like banshees or medivacs whose hp is a difference between dropping units or dying with all hands on board. Also, if you are not maxed out your production is limited by buildings. It's hella expensive to build another starport and reactor to make 4 medivacs at a time to replace the lost ones, even if it is easier. It's better to keep alive the ones you already have and make 2 more tanks with that money.

[@nathanluce6120]

i was 210

[@Redtornado6]

Why is top comment a spoiler. Please someone make a spoiler blocker 🙏

[@macallanswinney186]

Soup

[@sfgdragoon]

SPOILER SHIELD

[@marinav3905]

First 🎉