"how does he not seem them" -caster with full map vision for an hour, not seeing them
@_Wai_Wai_6 ай бұрын
Spirit really dropped the ball, not using his remaining workers to mine the mineral walls. theres even few patches in the base near center of map
@polygondwanaland83906 ай бұрын
Yeah Spirit weirdly just decided the last 250-500ish minerals on his side of the map weren't worth mining, slightly frustrating
@_Wai_Wai_6 ай бұрын
@@polygondwanaland8390 It was more than 500 minerals. The center base he had, was probably 1000, plus there were golden mineral walls, and a few blue minerals in his secondary bases.
@asdfasdf-mn8iu6 ай бұрын
Arguably he would've probably lost anyway. Astrea is about the best lategame protoss player atm. I hope he continues to improve in the neeb fashion since neeb retired.
@kenora1016 ай бұрын
@@_Wai_Wai_Spirit had like 3000 minerals left over. The one patch had 935 and another patch had 750 or something. Then a few with a couple hundred left. That would have made a huge difference!
@_Wai_Wai_6 ай бұрын
@@kenora101 yea, and it was so frustrating seeing his 20 something SCVs just sitting there, and they were close to the center mineral field. As I said, the golden mineral walls, and few patches left in secondary bases close to his main.
@calcif3r.6 ай бұрын
“Storm, a historical and StarCraft related counter to Vikings” HAS ME FUCKING ROLLING OML.
@JoshMariana6 ай бұрын
💯🤣☠️
@nathanmays79266 ай бұрын
That, and "the map is dark and full of terrans". A+++
@adrianlayman8926 ай бұрын
19:37 THIS Metal Gear reference is CLASSIC! God Bless you ALL!
@SnkobArts6 ай бұрын
❤ it
@robertr.hasspacher77316 ай бұрын
Winter is absolutely classic when he's on his game. Always entertaining anyway
@erikvarga43676 ай бұрын
29:57 the pathfinding on that 2nd Zealot..
@randomstranger11886 ай бұрын
As soon as you said the map is mined out I looked at the minimap, and couldn't believe you didn't see the pale blue scattered on spirit's side of the map.
@fruz13784 ай бұрын
"the night is dark and full of terrans" you sure have hillarious lines ^^
@FloridaManYT6 ай бұрын
i was screaming the whole time about the minerals
@werevamp6 ай бұрын
I was too, are Spirit and Winter both mineral blind? I was actually half expecting Astrea to start mining them and Spirit's mineral wall with his idle probes, but now I'm wondering if he did the 1000 IQ move of intentionally not so as to avoid reminding Spirit they were there.
@FloridaManYT6 ай бұрын
@@werevamp lol I was too. The whole game
@justins64586 ай бұрын
Some people might not like this style of game but i really enjoy it. Thank you for casting!
@SnkobArts6 ай бұрын
Can confirm: I was yelling at my TV about the unmined patches like it was sportsball. Then, so dependent on Winter's unfailing expertise, almost gaslit myself into thinking they weren't actually there (they are doodads? destructible rocks?) and had to go to the liquipedia page to double check. I shudder and grimace at the thought of the cast ending with the lingering patches unacknowledged; where would I be, then? 2+2=5? Considering Flat Earth? Voluntarily entering the Church of Scientology again?
@PaulthePhilosopher26 ай бұрын
Again?
@SnkobArts6 ай бұрын
@PaulthePhilosopher2 Again. Grew up there.
@kathorsees6 ай бұрын
@@SnkobArts Thank you for putting my horror and exact thought process into words, kind sir. You have some of the best words too. Also, congrats on leaving Scientology - it must've been really hard, but you pulled through.
@kiwmyak6 ай бұрын
I actually was triggered about minerals in the middle, but then I assumed its some kind of a new map bugs, cuz pro players and casters with full vision should saw it years ago. Now i'am tilted cuz i was right and let myself down.
@erikvarga43676 ай бұрын
36:19 that Ghost deifinitely got "fedback"
@alltat6 ай бұрын
Feederbackered, clearly.
@jermstergaming87806 ай бұрын
That was me, why is he throwing away the SCVs when he could be mining out the rest the minerals? Though i didn't think he had 2k left!
@_Wai_Wai_6 ай бұрын
there was plenty of minerals left all over Spirit's side of map. He left his SCVs sitting around doing jack. Including golden mineral walls.
@4gates46 ай бұрын
exactly the middle base should have landed a orbital and resume mining
@DrkCarbalt6 ай бұрын
Spirit gave up when he saw the carriers probably
@asmundurthor50466 ай бұрын
Awesome content. Last time I played Starcraft was when 2 was brand new and then only one game. But I absolutely love your videos. And the Queen jokes are so funny.
@e7venjedi6 ай бұрын
WINTER!!! THERE ARE STILL MINERALS AT THESE BASES!!! ;-) Some peeps did not look at the map and see the blue glowing things...
@DJAntwerpen5 ай бұрын
The base at 4:20… Blazing a path… The number is high 😂
@Reztiips6 ай бұрын
Spirit just left like 3k+ minerals at the rich vespene base for half an hour plus. He easily couldve mined it with the scvs and an orbital. Once the terrans fully mine out of the map, theres zero reason not to float back to the main and turtle. They have repairs. They have scans and sensor towers. They will force you into a fight that favors them or draw
@Reztiips6 ай бұрын
Lol winter just realized. Still, I'm so sick of watching Astrea games. Absolutely zero killer instinct.
@ElysaraCh6 ай бұрын
in this case, Tempests are the stalemate-breaker. With their long range and tectonic destabilizers they shred entrenched positions. Astrea can slowly chip away at the outskirts of the Terran's position and be ready with templar & stalkers any time the Vikings move out to counter.
@TertorForss6 ай бұрын
Yeah, that was just silly.
@asdfasdf-mn8iu6 ай бұрын
Of course there's a reason not to move back to home base. Tempests are gonna kill you easily and if protoss does not have to fear the viking cloud flanking, they can clear the map and EASILY win the game from there. That's not zerg there.
@Grond1123586 ай бұрын
His mind was broken.
@kahlforpresident98436 ай бұрын
"Warps in a 'Cinimatic' of Stalkers..." so thats the ~Collective Term~ for stalkers...
@calvinabbasi6 ай бұрын
Winter, I want you to know I watched remastered Return of the King in theatres tonight and when the lighting of the beacons hit I was obviously moved by the film but I also thought… “BATTLECRUISERS” GG friend, keep up the good work
@sudstahgaming6 ай бұрын
omg I've just realized I use to watch you years ago, you use to look like 10 now you look like 20!
@Thomas-bz2iy6 ай бұрын
Aged like maru
@Eric-nu3wh6 ай бұрын
yes but he's 40....
@AngelusMortis60006 ай бұрын
He's actually 15.
@alexr.1386 ай бұрын
Yeah, he looks like he might have shaved once
@l3loodR4IN6 ай бұрын
Gamers don't get sun lol
@YoshiKirishima6 ай бұрын
There were like 2500-3000 minerals left on spirit's bases wtf T_T
@tarkin62266 ай бұрын
after watching the whole game the title seems ironic xD
@PashaSlavaUkraine6 ай бұрын
Trust me bro is an ultimate answer of an Alfa game. Thanks Winter. Jimmy nice call to cast this.
@cathulionetharn51396 ай бұрын
Thank You Om nom nom
@wind13096 ай бұрын
did anyone find the 2:00 mentioned game between reynor and soul ? I only found some older matches 4 years ago
@WinterStarcraft6 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYCbdKNtnrKGl7c - pretty hard to search it took me a while too xD
@kathorsees6 ай бұрын
WINTER, THERE WERE STILL MINERALS AT THESE BASES
@biloxi97616 ай бұрын
new to the whole SC2 tournament play so pardon my noob question. Do the players get to choose which faction they want to play in head to head, or are they drawn when they show up? the thought of not knowing which faction you will command would be really interesting but stressful for the player at same time. Make them well rounded or is that too much?
@Golinth6 ай бұрын
Yes, they choose the race they play before going into the match. It’s very very rare for one player to play multiple races at a professional level, so usually they just declare their race for the whole tournament.
@MrWolfgang19816 ай бұрын
@@Golinth And typically they never change races after they have found "their" race
@Areckahn6 ай бұрын
When the Flanker becomes the Flankee, are they engaging in Flanky Panky?
@VAPhillyFan546 ай бұрын
THERES AN ENTIRE MINERAL LINE LEFT!
@empese11276 ай бұрын
Vikings: the perfect counter to all Protoss air units plus Colossus and even Stalkers 🤷🏽♂️
@benismann6 ай бұрын
dont forget probes
@admiralmurphy15436 ай бұрын
While I generally agree the viking does its job a bit too well, leaving little to no room for the Battlecruiser to replace them, I think this game was a good demonstration that they're not the final word in air superiority. The range, the blink, splash, and the plasma shields kept the Vikings unable to breach the Protoss kill zone.
@arthuryong49686 ай бұрын
@@admiralmurphy1543 what about mass marine and few ghost emp?
@admiralmurphy15436 ай бұрын
@@arthuryong4968 that works too, but you gotta get past all the layers of splash damage first. And marine/ghost is even less durable than viking swarms.
@arthuryong49686 ай бұрын
@@admiralmurphy1543 so the best way to fight carrier comps as terran is either you harrass non stop or go BC?
@McTerrox6 ай бұрын
best SC2 commentator out there
@nicedream10016 ай бұрын
I will like every video where Terran loses.
@FlokiTech6 ай бұрын
Gotta love how Terran players slowly kill themselves by spamming nukes worth 10k/10k resources and kills like 1 cannon
@SnkobArts6 ай бұрын
bit of an exaggeration, it was like 7.5k/7.5k resources, and he efficiently traded them for like 2.2k of minerals in cannons and batteries 😂
@fluffyfang42136 ай бұрын
Are we looking at the same game? There were probably about 20 nukes (even including the mind-game canceled ones). That's only 2k/2k resources and it's not like clearing those clusters of Cannon/Battery was going to be free.
@Wwillswords6 ай бұрын
@@fluffyfang4213 he could have simply used tanks and scans to a similar if cheaper affect. I mean to clear the cannons not the distraction portion
@SnkobArts6 ай бұрын
@fluffyfang4213 I'd say you can still catch the flight ✈️ before it flies over you because it's still taxiing.
@arankoka6 ай бұрын
@@Wwillswords tempest come, tanks die.
@121zup3 ай бұрын
fajnie ze nie pokazujesz tylko protosow z zergami . Piekna potyczka bez zergow
@blockboygames59566 ай бұрын
Great commentary as always!
@100thMkey6 ай бұрын
This is Mind Blowing.
@skiptoacceptancemdarlin3 ай бұрын
When are they gonna experiment with higher supply limits? We have the technology now
@dunmatta26706 ай бұрын
Looks like popcorn’s back on the menu boys!
@zoedutch51436 ай бұрын
we trust you bro
@chrislctr6 ай бұрын
Came for the SC2, stayed for the jokes
@kain18516 ай бұрын
aw damn almost got to witness the fist of neeb again
@Sifu-intraining6 ай бұрын
Jimmy there is still minerals left!!!!!
@davidbuchanan40865 ай бұрын
We aren't going to talk about the *pen is* probes?
@rimonshamon86076 ай бұрын
if spirit built battle cruisers things would be gone differently .
@lacascaradebanano6 ай бұрын
they should bring back the mothership with vortex, lockdown ability of the ghost, the red archon, the scourge of zergs, etc and put it in the sc2 engine. the more variety of units would make the games more interesting. sc1 vs sc2 is interesting because nobody knows what is going to happen. the same would be if you have a lot of new units inserted in the game
@Die1PumaSchildkroete6 ай бұрын
One nuke... COULD have made the difference... could.
@AXharoth6 ай бұрын
why not emp canons before nuke lands?
@glupor6 ай бұрын
the only reason I can think of is to keep the location of the nuke hidden
@hivetech49036 ай бұрын
Why would you? A nuke one-shots cannons with full shields.
@AXharoth6 ай бұрын
@@hivetech4903 did you watch the video? even in case youre right , the batteries survived , idk what survived but soemthing survived , either batteries or canons , im nto rewatching right
@AXharoth6 ай бұрын
@@hivetech4903 yes in the epicenter everything dies but the damage falls off farther from it
@llamabeanz28 күн бұрын
Spirit sat there for 10 minutes with 15 idle SCVs right next to the middle base that wasn't mined out..... SMH
@Markty074 ай бұрын
Why isn't spirit long distance mining the middle minerals ?
@Markty074 ай бұрын
oh
@zypher7796 ай бұрын
I thought they were muling the entire map...then i realise what's mine means
@mumblety966 ай бұрын
The map is dark and full of terrans. 😂😂😂😂
@christopherscott63836 ай бұрын
Let's freaking Go!🎉😮😊
@laureloneiros15006 ай бұрын
scans pretty nice eh?
@Sifu-intraining6 ай бұрын
Is Jimmy the one that said trust me bro ?
@malvokaquila67686 ай бұрын
I was hoping my day would get a little bit better and it just did. #winning
@anthyl53646 ай бұрын
I love your comentary, if i receive a responde i'll comment another one.. i'll probably be doing it anyway...
@ActionableFreedom6 ай бұрын
Are everyone blind? Theres minerals in the middle of the map, one entire base is not completely mined out. Probably 1k + there. Wtf?
@JohnnyFlame-de6er6 ай бұрын
Astrea could have won the game with that first blink. Dude needs to work on his control/micro
@sleepwalker80736 ай бұрын
I don't normally comment on these but damn that's a good game
@ArtoriaZz21376 ай бұрын
Can we get actualy good games for a change? I need some bronze league heroes
@deaddog36766 ай бұрын
long time watcher ive watched hundreds of ur streams over the years... first comment and like. Bro u missed out on the OG tower defense games back in broodwar in custom games... sunken defense... photon cannon defense where u turn vision off and literally stack towers one tile into eachother and make mazes....they even had TD where u buy units and fuckin make walls by hold position! missed ouut bruh.
@PJOZeus6 ай бұрын
There was zero reason at all to throw those workers away, it was just plain stupid. Those few thousand minerals left to mine, the walls, even just fighting with the army Especially against the carriers at the end, he could've got level 3 mech armour (important!), repaired, even filling out the supply with marines It may not have been completely enough, but he threw Even just imagine 40 marines up north fighting the protoss buildings like..
@Jasonsoloka20246 ай бұрын
There was no counter for the sky toss. Vikings got stormed and out ranged.
@hivetech49036 ай бұрын
Spending the gas on an extra medivac & 2 vikings is often more helpful than +3 armor, Stalker/Storm/Tempest is either spell or high burst damage. It does make a difference Vs Carriers but its very unusual to go back to Carriers so Spirit probably wasn't expecting it.
@MaRibez866 ай бұрын
Is this a Charlie Brown Christmas accent?
@Zerachael13376 ай бұрын
Girthy!
@StephenHood-ev1te6 ай бұрын
GG
@jasonnguyen3506 ай бұрын
@Doingxwellxthanks6 ай бұрын
“Just trust me, bro!” Let us down this time. Boring af watching two players with no killer instinct.
@arankoka6 ай бұрын
i liked and subscribed. Because by the years, i trust u, bro. [but in fact, was a bit boring, one sided attrition fight]
@arthuryong49686 ай бұрын
Spirit could have used that huge window of time to build tons of BCs with a handful of vikings, or adding some Thors wouldn't hurt
@hivetech49036 ай бұрын
BCs??? Against their perfect counter Stalker+Tempest???
@jamespidgeon87486 ай бұрын
Thank fuck Neebs intro has been lost, good fucking writens. Also can you make another cow boy video.
@Liatin16 ай бұрын
Spirit sucks, dude refuses to commit only to slow burn a loss. When you aren't able to replenish your army any more, no point to turtle
@AXharoth6 ай бұрын
aaaaaaargh ffs stop missing the nuke explosions thats the highlight
@lionrock20236 ай бұрын
spirit missed all the mineral in the gold wall.. and a bunch of the blue ones. he played horribly
@MagicianVideos6 ай бұрын
It was good until that last 30 minutes
@netspidercz6 ай бұрын
Click bait? Click bait
@SIR139856 ай бұрын
1339
@LabRat09786 ай бұрын
1893
@mauromattei97796 ай бұрын
Really…? The most procrastination game ever see…
@mrmrmrmrmrmrmrmrmrmr46036 ай бұрын
311
@ezequieltellez90826 ай бұрын
like
@thaynesmith106 ай бұрын
SPOILER SHIELD
@maurimat6 ай бұрын
This is by far one of the most booooring match ever....seriously 30min maxed out and no fight....this is dumb....strategy my arrrrgg....why would you cast this match...
@watchvideo72256 ай бұрын
This was painful to watch tbh.
@hdckdsadd5 ай бұрын
hard to watch/boring. We're spoiled with the high tier games to top players
@junhaozhang69156 ай бұрын
ngl, spirit kinda sucked...
@ymc866 ай бұрын
Boring
@laureloneiros15006 ай бұрын
terrans are just lazy. not upgrading mech/mining mineral walls because they're used to winning by a landslide thanks to the strength of their race