This Might Be The *GOAT* of Cook Pots In 2024 | Fire Maple Petrel G3 600ml Pot

[@BackcountryExposure]

What do you think about this pot? Gear From This Video ⬇️: - Fire Maple Petrel G3: geni.us/FM-PetrelPot - Fire Maple Petrel G3 Amazon: geni.us/FM-PetrelPot-Amazon - Toaks 550ml Pot: geni.us/Toaks550ml - Toaks 750ml Pot: geni.us/Toaks-750 - Soto Windmaster Stove: geni.us/Soto-Windmaster-Stove - Soto Amicus Stove: geni.us/Amicus-Stove - Fire Maple Polaris Stove: geni.us/FireMaple-Polaris

[@rpor984]

Great design, but it misses hanging lid. And has to be in titanium. Aluminium is bad for health reason. And the fact that everyone has a MSR stove and the brand says that is won't work with it is a no go too for me.

[@lawsnewton]

I think the best part is that the FireMaple works as a Heat Exchanger but the slots that the pot slot on to adds pot stability. Which keeps a basic accident from knocking your pot off the stove.

[@anthonyalpocetti5152]

Absolutely fabulous review: everything we needed to know, nothing we didn't, delivered in a clear and concise fashion. Many thanks! One aside: it is worth noting this pot will NOT work with the BRS stoves that are popular with ultralight backpackers. Those stoves have a 3 prong-pot stand, but the prong centers are offset so the prongs won't fit in the heat exchanger grooves.

[@EdgarSnowSki]

I also just received this pod. The plastic lid stuck on the pod when it gets hot, so that's why tests here are without the lids. No fuel consumptions data, because they wanted to show how fast it works, consuming insane amount of gas , these stoves are quite powerfull and diameter of the pot is tiny, so its very inefficient test, and yea, no one cares about couple of minutes outdoor except its race. I did my own tests, with pocket rocket2 and brs3000, and when you set the output to eco mode, the consumption is exactly the same ie 5gr for 500ml (sorry Im in Europe) comparing to msr titanium pod without HE. And lastly its seems designed especially for they own stoves and grooves below are offset indeed, however my pocket rocket 2 fits ok and brs300 also fits but some wiggling is required. Some people bend the legs a bit to make it more comfortable.There is a huge benefit of HE pots, however its not mentioned in this review at all. I guess thats fine for youtubers, its just a business and if they leave any negativity if the review, they will most probably be canceled by manufacturers. This is same stiry for majority of big youtubers ,

[@TheRealAlanStephens]

I bought this after seeing a short of this from your channel a month ago. For me it solves so many problems I didn’t realize were so nice not to have. I also use it with the windmaster. Very efficient, works very well in wind. Because it has the inset, it is hard for the pot to fall off. Used it in 35 mph sustained wind and 55mph gust and still boiled water in 2.5 min water temp around freezing. For those curious the BRS can work as well but tight. Can modify the groves a little wider so it can get on easier. Handle stays cool no burning your hand. Awesome lid. Can see water boiling so you waste less fuel and takes out the guess work. Just fantastic. Fire maple nailed it.

[@razorsharp170]

Irecently bought this pot. It took my homade red bull alcohol stove from 10 minute boil time with 2 oz fuel. To 7 minuts with 1.5 oz fuel for 2 cups water. Absolutly love it.

[@BackcountryExposure]

That is awesome!!

[@FlatCatGear]

If it takes 1.5 to 2 oz of alcohol to boil 2 cups, you have a crappy stove. Just saying

[@razorsharp170]

Under natural conditions. A little wind. Ive used comercial alcohol stoves that did worse. What alcohol stove are you useing that uses less than 1.5 oz of fuel to boil 16 oz of water?

[@FlatCatGear]

@@razorsharp170 Well, if you look at our user name, you’ll find our company (yes, we make alcohol cooking systems). That being said, not only us, but Trail Designs offers systems that will boil 2 cups using 15-20 ml of alcohol. Been there, done that. The windscreen will help reduce fuel consumption in the wind. In very high winds, these system will never consume 1.5 oz for just 2 cups of water.

[@FlatCatGear]

FYI, With a canister stove and the Petrel pot, we routinely boil 2 cups of water using 5-6 grams of isobutane fuel.

[@tanvach]

Gearskeptic has a really great test of this pot and other HX pots against standard Toaks pots. The take away is based on fuel saving alone, likely not worth the extra weight (with no wind). He is retesting with wind and we will get one and for all if HX pots are worth it. Personally, I have used both Toaks + Windmaster and jet boil stash HX pot + Windmaster. I much prefer the latter. Yes it weighs more, but HX pots performs so much better in wind and real world conditions. Set and forget kind of experience. Can’t wait to test the Firemaple pot and the Windmaster!

[@DDF1408]

Ditto, I use the stash pot plus pocket Rocket deluxe

[@Andy-Mesa]

His testing crucially doesn't account for wind, which is a *huge* factor. I used this pot with a Soto Windmaster in the San Jacintos during a 70 mph windstorm and it lit right up. Neither of my lighters would work, so a BRS would be useless.

[@bcdowz4875]

If the increased efficiency of the HX pot enables you to carry one less fuel canister, or a smaller one, then you come out ahead weight wise. Otherwise, the Toaks pot is always going to be the lighter option. I just bought the Petrel to use with the Windmaster and I love it. But on anything less than a week long trip, I’ll be taking the Toaks 650.

[@DDF1408]

@@bcdowz4875 The Hx pot provides much better wind resistance which in real life reduces the risk of not being able to cook or with burning through a ton of fuel unexpectedly. Seen these play out on my trips. I also offset the weight of the Hx by bringing less fuel but you have to have really dialed in & know your fuel consumption

[@bcdowz4875]

@@DDF1408 You have some good points. I always carry a 1 oz twig/esbit stove that I made out of titanium sheet as a back up, and it also serves as a windscreen for the canister stove. Before I bought the Petrel Hx pot, I just carried 1 or 2 esbit cubes (0.5 oz each) just in case. With the Hx pot, I generally get about 1g more fuel efficiency per 2 cup boil than with the Toaks 650 lite pot and windscreen when using the Windmaster stove. This translates to one or two more boils for a 100g canister, which is not insignificant. But the Hx pot weighs more than double the Toaks 650 lite, so unless it saves me from carrying an extra fuel canister, it’s going to weigh a bit more than the Toaks system.

[@gman963]

I kind of like the see through lid so you can tell when it starts to boil without taking it off.

[@Andy-Mesa]

A thermal sticker that tells you when it gets to 70C is better, since waiting for water to boil is unnecessary.

[@grimgranite]

I absolutely love FireMaple! Excellent and informative video!

[@BackcountryExposure]

I haven’t done much with their newest stuff, but this is an obvious winner!

[@DaveOffGrid]

Great budget friendly option! My Jetboil Stash with Soto Windmaster boiled 2 cups in 1:15 with 4.5g of fuel used, but that was with the lid on. And it weighs a little less at 5.15 ozs. But the cost is def more. I agree that saving $ on fuel pays dividends and allows you to go further with your gas can. What's equally important in that equation is the stove. Higher BTUs with a regulator and being great in the wind goes hand in hand with an efficient pot. Nice one Devin!

[@drytool]

Even though it's a little heavier the style handle on the Petrel is my favorite. It has very controlled pouring with my hand out of the path of the steam.

[@lawsnewton]

That FireMaple G3 pot with heat exchanger and stove prong slots is next level! Going to have to pick that up for my next trip.

[@cufferino]

I bought one the second I saw it! The heat exchanger means I can carry less fuel. On a solo trip I can bring one small canister for five+ days with no worries I also have a larger Robens pot with an exchanger I’ve used for three years. Love these, they use 30-40% less gas per boil

[@tlgrimmy]

Glad to see they're offering this pot separately now! I bought it quite awhile ago as a kit with that Hornet stove, but knew I wasn't going to care for the stove much. I modified the base just by nicking the inside corners of the slots with a Dremel so that my MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe can slide in better. I've used it on a ton of trips now. This thing is an absolute beast! The boil times are absurdly good. I'm not sure there's a better/faster combo out there than this pot with an MSR PRD or the Soto Windmaster. It even beats an MSR Reactor! I went on a backpacking trip with 4 people and would feel comfortable with this being the only stove setup. It boils so dang fast that I can rapid fire prep 1.5-2 cups of water quicker than most larger setups could do a larger batch. It's also not overkill for solo adventures. Love how wind proof it is too, especially with the slots allowing the burner to sit further up in the heat exchanger area. If you're thinking about trying this little pot, you definitely should! Easily worth the slight weight increase over a Toaks 750ml pot.

[@debbilermond1553]

Thank you so much for introducing this new pot. Devin, I use my Soto Windmaster stove with the 4 prong burner so it wouldn't work for my set up but I can still fit it on top of the fuel canister in my Toaks 750 ml pot. I'm able to do it by squeezing the pot slightly so the stove fits down snugly below the lid. I also put a mini Bic lighter down first and set the canister over it saving space for my Soto Windmaster, cleaning sponge, camp soap & paper towel. Works like a charm & the paper shop towel doubles for the pot holder when it gets hot. Small twigs work for taking the lid off, LOL! 😉

[@thiskingswingsthings]

Same system I have - my Soto Windmaster fits quite easily inside my 750ml Toaks (maybe my pot diameter is a bit bigger?). I usually have access to shelters to cook in so wind is not such an issue but I'd consider this pot if I was doing a lot of exposed cooking.

[@pothos9913]

If you're interested Soto sells a three arm attachment and it fits the slots in the Fire Maple pot.

[@BigDawgCAM]

Great analysis! That handle mechanism is such a good idea

[@BackcountryExposure]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@lcdrjsmasterson]

Same design as the classic Stanley cook pot, if I'm not mistaken.

[@ianpadley3334]

Been using the Windmaster/Petrl combo this spring, it’s an excellent system and very wind proof. I will still use a very minimalist alcohol stove this summer, but for windy winter morning coffee, this is now my go-to. Good review, confirms my field experience.

[@BackcountryExposure]

happy to hear that!

[@gdx52]

for longer trips, i have been using snow peak mini solo pot with primus stove or pocket rocket and home made windscreen for over 10 years. i can normally get about 11-12 days per small canister. the windscreen, stove, lighter, canister and some paper towel all fit in the pot. for short trips, i use snow peak 450, primus stove, piece of tin foil, no lid. stove, foil and lighter fit in pot but not canister. foil is used for lid or a windscreen. i have a toaks 750 and 450 that i do not care for.

[@dons1643]

Great video thanks for the tips and showing how those three arms on your stove fit into the pot that's pretty good That's almost like having the jet boil where it screws into the burner stove... And I especially like your rack with all your gear behind you neatly stowed in those boxes I've got the big tubs in my garage but I need to get a rack like that and separate it out thanks for the tip on that too even though you didn't say it... Ha

[@GideonSmit]

Hi Devin, thank you for this review. I've been hoping for a smaller heat exchanger pot, so when this came along, I grabbed one. I happened to have the Soto Windmaster already. Before this I used the Soto New River Pot, which is wider and more shallow, so stoves don't fit quite so easily into that on top of a gas cannister. This Firemaple pot is the perfect size for solo hiking, and apart from the Windmaster with Triflex pot support, I also add a Bic Mini lighter and the Sea To Summit XCup fits on top. I love how the handle snaps over the lid and keeps everything in place. The Soto River Pot has a very loose lid and I had to use rubber bands to secure it. I'm very pleased with this pot.

[@mab0852]

I took a dremel to the bottom of my Oilcamp XTS and it works great with my FMS-300T.

[@caryveech7223]

Picked up this pot after seeing this review not long ago, along with the Polaris Pressure-regulator Gas Stove (since I am regularly at 9500+ ft of elevation) and have to say I love the setup. I have Jetboil MiniMo and this kit is so much easier to use. Borrowed the canister stand from the MiniMo to make it a little more stable. I'm able to fit a 100g fuel can, stove, Jetboil folding stand and a full size Bic with no problem. Pot lip allows for an extremely even pour of liquid, without having to worry about it trailing back down the bottom side of the pot as you pour. Its a little detail, but not having worry about boiling water dipping or coving your dehydrated meal bag is a welcomed benefit. Have used this setup on 3 trips up in the Uinta's, at 10.5K ft, and had full 600ml pots at a rolling boil before I could get two backpacking meals opened, and in their Big Sky insulated pouches. Averaged 6.5g of fuel usage on each boil, which included bringing the flame down and letting the water raise in temp for 20-30 seconds after the boil to compensate for the altitude. Am thinking of picking up one of the knock off Windmaster stoves (Campingmoon XD-2F) with the TriFlex pot stand to see how well this setup works. Having a reliable piezo igniter attached to the stove would make this almost the perfect setup. Only issue I have had is the lid seems to suction onto the pot at the time of boil, which can make it is pain to get off if needed. I have just started aligning the staining holes on the side of the pot I will pour from, making sure to hold the lid closed by the little rubber lid grabber.

[@georgeleakos8376]

Good review! I ordered this pot mainly for my alcohol stove setup as decrease in boil time using an alcohol burner is more significant compared to canister stoves. But what’s really significant is the fuel savings, regardless of type of stove or burner. Glad someone came out with a smaller HE pot.

[@JarradShaw]

Very cool. I will have to pick one up here in the next few weeks. Thanks Devin.

[@BackcountryExposure]

Right on!

[@daveonahike5561]

Just got mine today. I'd used the Snow Peak Ti Mini Solo set (pot and cup) on my AT attempt in '22 with my Soto Windmaster stove and really liked the titanium cup the pot nestled into. Just tried the cup from the Ti Mini and the Fire Maple stove fits in it perfectly. They can share the Fire Maple lid too. Happy with this combo! Like you I wasn't happy with not really being able to fit the Windmaster stove into the Toaks pot.

[@toemke]

I got this pot for my windmaster a while back and it is pretty much the stovesystem I've been looking for: - perfect size - Heat exchanger - A lid that doesn't fall off (like a toaks), but is not too tight (like an evernew Pasta pot) - Handle that secures the lid --> no need for storage bag or rubber bands - fits gas canister and stove perfectly - pot doesn't slide around because of the cutouts

[@Mohdock]

Very helpful. I was undecided, but now I have made up my mind.

[@trailkrum]

Thank you for the recommendation! I love my SnowPeak 900 but wanted to try something a bit smaller this summer. Happy trails!

[@dons1643]

$24 is a No Brainer... Thanks again for the comparisons.. I'm going to combine this with a snow peak I guess you called a stove and see how that works... I've basically got the snow peak already and it fits on its own nice little container I don't even know if they make them anymore... Yeah as somebody else has said if those three prongs or whatever they are on the stove fit into this maple fire heat exchange that is like a extra added bonus to stability of the system...

[@tomlovesdiy]

Ordered one b4 your video finished playing. Now my Jetboil buddies will be envious. Thanks.

[@BackcountryExposure]

Ha ha ha nice!

[@monsierlemaire8282]

Thank you for the excellent analysis! Great video. I’m going to check out that pot.

[@BackcountryExposure]

Thank you!

[@m.hernandez1404]

Got this pot on your recommendation a few weeks ago and am not disappointed. My concern was how hot the toaks handles got on the windmaster (or any stove). I'm getting older and a tiny bit wiser and don't want to risk burning my fingers and dropping two cups of boiling water on me. This looks like an outstanding system. Thanks!

[@BackcountryExposure]

Love it!

[@flybyguy1450]

You can fit the windmaster in the toaks 750, just need to squeeze the sides of the toaks ever so slightly to get it to fit. This is what I use and it works great.

[@BackcountryExposure]

😬 it’s still just a little too tight for me to want to do that.

[@Rickstar270]

100%. It’s just the tiniest squeeze. Lid fits on nice and tight doing this s well. No rattling either. I line the pot with a thin bandana as well. Stops the stove and canister from rattling and scratching up the pot 👍🏼

[@zakafx]

Regarding the lid on the TOAKS pot, there are 2 guys that I know that are working on silicone replacement tops that hold everything inside of the TOAKS pot, as well as being lighter than the original lid, while also acting as a top to sip out of.

[@BackcountryExposure]

Yeah I know Suluk46 has something in the works, and Justin Outdoors has a lid in development too.

[@zakafx]

@@BackcountryExposure 46*

[@gman963]

I guess you need to have a Soto stove to go with this pot. I have three different stoves including a Pocket Rocket, and the pot supports don't align with the slots of the pot on any of them. lol. Not sure if it's really that big of a deal for fuel efficiency, just triggers my OCD.

[@thathikingguy]

I love mine! It’s so fast and useful. My only warning is be careful taking off the stove for pouring. This thing is my new go to pot for backpacking

[@BackcountryExposure]

Love it!

[@timmo971]

I got one a month or two ago and I’ve used it twice. No complaints except the handle which is only an issue if you eat from the pot. Much like the Jetboil stash pot it doesn’t have a cup like handle so it’s a bit of a wrist yoga move to eat from a hot pot and prevents it from slipping into a pot cozy. I still don’t know why no one makes a titanium pot with a heat exchanger? It seems to me to be the material that really needs the assistance.

[@tanvach]

Jetboil used to with the Sol but the titanium fins keep melting due to low thermal conductivity

[@Addora_SheRa]

You should see if it works with the MSR Pocket Rocket!! :)

[@k.whiking4372]

It won't

[@Curlew-Corner]

Thank you. Very interesting. I've been using my Toaks 550ml pot with my BRS 3000 stove which works fine for the limited use. I would certainly consider the Fire Maple pot if ever in the market for another pot.

[@kohort1]

It would be nice if fire maple could modify this to fit a brs stove...but then how many other stoves could fit that.

[@wolfeadventures]

Interesting pot. Toaks 750 and Amicus hasn’t let me down and is 90% of Windmasters performance. All fits in 750 with lighter. Toaks 550 ultra light versions and BRS 3000 for peak bagging trips.

[@DanceCommander]

IMPORTANT Not only does the stove need 3 potstands with a 120° spread, but they also have to be in an 90°angle to the stovehead. So Pocket Rocket Deluxe and Pocket Rocket 2 DO NOT WORK (only the original pocket rocket works) I think it´s best to be paired with the FireMaple Hornet since it's also inexpensive. With the 80$ Windmaster in there, it's not a budget cook system anymore.

[@BackcountryExposure]

Thanks for sharing the info on the pocket rockets. I wish I had either of them to have shown that. But knew someone would chime in. The Hornet is a funky stove. For the budget route I’d go for the Buzz, it sits closer to the bottom of the pot and will be better in the wind that way. Thanks!

[@DanceCommander]

@@BackcountryExposure You're right, the Hornet seems not very wind resistant But neither does the Buzz - at least on its own (maybe it's better inside the heat exchanger). To bad, the pot isn't designed for 4-prong stoves. The Soto Amicus would be the perfect pairing. Inexpensive and good wind resistants.

[@fr.davidkuttner4034]

I just purchased this pot and have not used it in the field but at home when paired with my msr pockrocket deluxe stove it works great.. and the pot will work with the pocketrocket deluxe stove which will fit in the slots of the pot..

[@DanceCommander]

@@fr.davidkuttner4034 You're sure you own pocket rocket deluxe and not the original pocket rocket? Because i tried that myself and it didn't work. OR to be precise - it could have worked if i had bent the arms of the stove, which i was not willing to do.

[@markwhite7881]

@@DanceCommander My son uses the PRD. We just used it for a test run and it fits quite nice.

[@braxtonbliss9440]

I was able to slid my Soto Windmaster into my Toaks 750 mL pot though it's a tight fit. Perhaps there is some scratching but it works for me. I had a Bic mini lighter to the bottom, add the gas cansiter in, add a collapsible cup, and then the Windmaster on top of it.

[@BackcountryExposure]

Right on!

[@browsman2328]

I bought this pot several weeks ago and have three stoves that fit it. The Windmaster Triflex, the Fire Maple Polaris Regulator and the Fire Maple Greentree which is non-regulated but only costs $20. All of these stoves have minimal burner to pot distance and work well with the Petrel pot. I’ve heard that the Fire Maple Hornet sucks with this pot due to excessive burner to pot distance.

[@adamhoward7596]

Which of those stoves do you recommend for it?

[@browsman2328]

The best deal in stoves for the Petrel pot is the Fire Maple Greentree stove, $20 Amazon. It fits into the Petrel Pot stove perfectly and is wind resistant due to the small burner to pot distance.

[@rayklahne7117]

I think weighing the canisters to determine how many grams of fuel you're using would provide a better guage of efficiency. I know for a fact, that Windmaster will use far more fuel than most other options. Additionally, full throttle is pouring out heat that's not transferring to the water. I think if you tinker with the stoves, you'll discover the best setup for boil time and fuel consumption.

[@vvs3796]

Which stoves are most efficient?

[@crimson25543]

I just ordered the Petrel G3 pot and a Soto Amicus stove. Will see how they work together. I've seen high ratings for the Amicus stove, so even though it won't be the fastest, it may be good enough for me.

[@BackcountryExposure]

The Amicus has 4 potential supports, so the pot will still work, it just won’t be able to sit down into the grooves of the pot.

[@GrizzlyGaz]

The fire maple gear is pretty decent. I have the frying pan (best non stick pan I have!) plus the mars radiant stove. Absolutely love them both!

[@BackcountryExposure]

Is that the 6” fry pan? I bought that along with the Petrel. But haven’t used the pan yet.

[@GrizzlyGaz]

@@BackcountryExposure not sure of the size (6-8 inches?) but it has an orange handle that flips underneath it. It's the flat bottomed pan. You can fry an egg on it with no oil! Haha... The one with ridges isn't very good and stuff sticks to it so I wouldn't recommend that one... That mars radiant stove is great for winter! Too heavy for you though lad 💪😜💪

[@davidcooper8390]

It's nice to see a great aluminum option that isn't too heavy.

[@davidcooper8390]

Honestly its tempting to get the Windburner stove with both pot holder setups for the versatility.

[@BackcountryExposure]

The Soto WindMaster is an incredible stove! It's worth having for sure.

[@exz0r.ex3]

Flatcatgear makes an adapter for the pocket rocket deluxe it would be nice to know if the adapter stove and 8oz canister with a lighter all nest in the pot.

[@robynroamsoutdoors]

I got this pot a couple of weeks ago. While I haven't had a chance to try it but I'm loving it so far. It does fit the Jetboil MightyMo.

[@westcoastbestcoast7683]

This looks awesome! Wish they made one that would fit on the standard 4 pronged windmaster though!

[@BackcountryExposure]

You can still use the pot with that setup. The stove just won’t sit into the slots, but it will absolutely still work.

[@pjmclach]

Great review

[@Mike_Blanda]

Great video! I have started to use this stove myself and I absolutely love it! Iv been working on getting a video out on this too because I think people should consider this as a great option. Always love your videos man… good work 👍

[@todd4480]

Cool. Just ordered one, with their stove.

[@BackcountryExposure]

Right on!

[@GarryCollins-ec8yo]

Just when I thought there wasn't enough gear to geek out over you present this. I'm not a big fan of aluminum but I'm going to give it a try.

[@BackcountryExposure]

Ha ha ha! Like I said, not much in the cooking realm has piqued my interest as of late, but this did. 😊

[@trailgoodsco]

Makes me wonder if Fire Maple will make a titanium version!

[@Andy-Mesa]

AFAIK nobody makes a titanium HX pot

[@DM-fv7hw]

Weight vs. Efficiency, depending on the length of the trip you may need to carry the extra weight in fuel.

[@paulmctaggart3760]

Devan great video. The combination of a heat exchanger and burner = Burn performance and gas efficiency. Well worth the weight penalty in my view. PS Soto WM 4ever.

[@craig3401]

Well I use the toaks 750 and I can get my gas canister and my soto wind master and the canister support and the gsi pot grip.the Coleman gas is just slightly shorter and the jetboil stand fits in the windmaster is tight just gently squeezing the pot it goes in.then slide the triflex in.yes the lid is rubbish but a cross band solves it.

[@magicalframe9441]

Things that fall into the price category of "Have dinner at a restaurant or buy this" are my favorite pieces of gear.

[@krimke881]

If I could replace my jetboil system with firemaple pots, I would. It's a lot more versatile, as It's not dependent on the burner, and that is far more than any other system I've seen can offer.

[@Everydaybackpacker]

Really cool design. I do love the pot support cutouts. Firemaple is definitely coming out strong in the field. I’m still going to stick with my toaks 750, but it’s definitely a sweet design.

[@BackcountryExposure]

Yeah if you’ve already got the 750, then stick with it.

[@fathersonoutdoors7487]

Hi from Newfoundland Canada great video

[@rodoutdoors]

That's a nice price for the pot. The cutouts are handy. Does it fit on a BRS3000? Looks handy with the smaller capacity. For JetBoil-like performance, I pair the Soto Windmaster with the hard anodized aluminum 1L Olicamp XTS pot. It boils water ridiculously fast. One of the reasons why I chose the Windmaster is because the distance from the burner to the pot is less than the Amicus. For better efficiency.

[@BackcountryExposure]

It does not fit the BRS cause the pot supports of the BRS don’t come out perpendicular to the burner. Yeah that XTS pot is great. Essentially the same thing here just smaller. In fact, Olicamp is just Fire Maple white labeled.

[@rodoutdoors]

@@BackcountryExposure Thanks for the info. Still looks tempting. I'd be nice if it had butterfly handles like Olicamp. I've been tempted to pick up Firebox's modified Toaks 650ml titanium pot just because it has butterfly handles lol

[@chrisfoxworth3228]

Ordered!

[@IndomnitableForceofNature]

Does anyone know/recommend a pot, cup or bowl that will nest outside of the Petrel pot. I need something to pour boiling water into for coffee. Maybe one of the MSR 4" bowls would work?

[@simartnullnet]

Super helpful, thanks!

[@readyme]

I have the MSR windburner and it’s been good. This new Fire Maple pot seems to best the Windburner at every point. Any chance you know which MSR stoves fit it… and what their boil times are? This pot seems like a game changer and I’m hoping to see more content using it.

[@LousyFIBs]

totally want one. I need to condense my stove systems. I might replace them all with this. Q: do you thin this would be usable over a camp fire or with an alcohol stove?

[@BackcountryExposure]

I can see it being used with alcohol, but not sure it makes sense over a fire.

[@michaelstoddard1606]

Sounds great! I’ll take that windburner off your hands if you’re done with it. 😊

[@BackcountryExposure]

Oh I’m far from done with it. I use it quite often actually.

[@michaelstoddard1606]

😂 😢 Well, if that garage needs a bit of cleaning… you know where to find me. 😊

[@millerhoo]

I swapped the top with a sea to summit collapsing x-cup. Seems to hold and only adds .5 oz net.

[@woogle_camper]

very good work

[@melonydodson8725]

So cool! Do you happen to know if the MSR pocket rocket works with this? You said the Soto Windmaster does, tho? I actually have a BRS stove (which I’m sure won’t work with it), but anything that improves fuel efficiency has my interest. I was thinking of upgrading to the pocket rocket anyway…

[@daveyyc9784]

I just bought this pot and the greenpeaks stove. I have the pocket rocket deluxe. The deluxe is a far better stove. If you want to use the deluxe all you have to do is slightly turn in the supports as if you're about to put it away. I don't mean bend them, I mean start to turn them in. Then it fits perfectly. And boils super fast. Best I could do boiling 500ml cold tap water using the greenpeak is 2min30s. With the deluxe 1min45s. I wish I had saved my money and didn't buy the greenpeak.

[@bertman4]

Really nice design features. I would purchase if there was a Ti version with 4 cutouts.

[@BackcountryExposure]

Highly unlikely for there to be a titanium version. From what I understand brands that have tried heat exchanger style pots in titanium in the past have has issues with the titanium fins not being able to handle the heat causing warping and issues.

[@zakafx]

​@@BackcountryExposuregood to know!

[@DrJimCares]

Can you ask the Fire Maple company to make a titanium version? The connection with aluminum and Alzheimer's is problematic. I have a jetboil flash titanium and they don't make it anymore. Would love another like this one from Fire Maple and I also have the Soto Windmaster stove!

[@Olan...]

Thats exactly my concerns. They have known since the early 80s that aluminium mess tins were effecting soldiers. I am only happy using Titanium these days.

[@ddff5242]

Fair. But this is mainly for boiling water which prevents the inside metal from getting above 212f. The concern around aluminum cookware is more so in relation to extreme heat exposure.

[@DrJimCares]

@@ddff5242 try placing a tsp of baking soda in the aluminum mug tsp and taste - slightly salty, then boil the water with baking soda in it. Taste then and you’ll definitely taste a difference.

[@ddff5242]

@DrJimCares I'm not sure what your point is. If you boil it in titanium does it not also change the taste?

[@DrJimCares]

@@ddff5242 titanium has nothing to do with Alzheimer’s, aluminum does - that’s the point

[@usmckozmo]

The Pocket Rocket Deluxe arms are offset a few degrees, but it will work if you are OK either bending the arms slightly, or cutting a shallow angle in the heat exchange on the fire maple pot. I just bent the arms and it works great. Great upgrade from the Stanley Adventure pot.

[@BackcountryExposure]

That's good to know. Thanks!

[@globetruck17]

Thank - love my pocket rocket and wasn’t sure if it would work with this pot.

[@tandscarlson]

Have you compared it to the Jetboil Stash pot? That is what I have been using with my alcohol stove. Or I could use it with the included gas stove.

[@skrub3761]

Do all of those Fire Maple stoves fit inside the pot with the gas canister??

[@Andy-Mesa]

The lid is obnoxiously heavy; it's an ounce on its own. I ditched it for a 5g tupperware lid. I can also fit my 16 oz cold soak jar inside with my food towel and Soto Windmaster inside that.

[@fharbord]

Thanks for the review :) could you compare it to the Firemaple Star X3?

[@michalbinek_]

the bottom of this pot will fitting with msr stove ? for example rocket pocket 2?

[@gallwb]

It is said that Soto does not recommend its stoves for HX systems because of the carbon monoxide poisoning problem. Is that true?

[@neemancallender9092]

I have for many years the 1 liter heat exchanger pot that weighs 30g more The extra size of 400ml is easily worth the extra 30g

[@ellicevictoria]

Is it the one without the slots for the stove? Do you use it backpacking, do you find it bulky?

[@NordicSnowhammer]

Just ordered on ebut I realize my stove won't exactly fit. I have a 3000-BRST. Do you have to seat the pot exactly for the heat exchange to work or can you just set the pot on the stove?

[@ellyrion8173]

Would this work alright for use with small pans and pots other than the one suipplied?

[@26parma]

I always see videos on the new stuff. I don't see many videos showing best in the market.

[@BackcountryExposure]

I certainly make an effort to provide a balance.

[@chrisconstant7416]

Great review! One question.... How deep/tall are the "stove slots"? I have a Primus Essential Trail Stove and I'm concerned the triangle base plate will interfere with stability.... Thoughts?

[@BackcountryExposure]

The slots are 1/2” deep and open about 1/4”. The diameter of the inner opening for the stove is 2.25”.

[@DeeJayEll]

Thanks for this video. Good timing. Seems to be exactly what i was looking for. You wouldn't be able to measure the inner diameter for me would you? Was wondering if an X Cup would fit in. X Cup is 3.75" dia according to their site. Wouldn't that be perfect?

[@BackcountryExposure]

I measure 3.76” for the petrel inside diameter. My collapsing sea to summit cup doesn’t fit inside. Don’t remember if the cup I have is the X cup though.

[@DeeJayEll]

@@BackcountryExposure Ok cool, thanks for looking. Just ordered this Firemaple pot, so I’ll see for myself. I’ve finally been temped away from my Jetboil after all these years.

[@curtelverd4008]

Have you tried the JetBoil Stash? Wondering if it performs similarly.

[@BackcountryExposure]

I have not. But I’d like to compare this to that.

[@flybyguy1450]

Definitely should've measured the fuel used. Post the results in the future?

[@BackcountryExposure]

I’ve got something in the works to compare it to Jetboil. I’ll measure fuel consumption at that time.

[@gregoryoutdoors]

It uses 4g of gas to boil 300ml of water in 1.30 or less maybe

[@shawnr6117]

Can you fit an 8oz gas canister in it?

[@BackcountryExposure]

No. The larger canister is too wide in the diameter.

[@michaelcariello6233]

Can you boil with the lid on?

[@BackcountryExposure]

Totally! I just didn't for the testing of boil times to see when the water truly hit a rolling boil.

[@commonfan5230]

If using a Fire Maple Polaris stove that has attached support arms, do all cook system components fit inside pot with lid closed (as you demonstrated with the Soto stove)?

[@BackcountryExposure]

Yes it does

[@Community-Action]

Toaks 650ml light is still half the weight at 2.8oz vs G3 at 5.7oz.

[@ittotaq]

how much does the fire maple weigh without the handle? If it drops it 1-2oz it would be perfect.

[@BackcountryExposure]

The handle is so minimal. It doesn’t easily come off, and definitely weighs less than an ounce. Removing it wouldn’t make sense.

[@Colby168]

I’ve got the windmaster 3 flex so I might need to try this pot. You didn’t mention anything about the handle but it looks like you can grab it without a towel? It stays cool enough to grab?

[@BackcountryExposure]

Yes the handle stays totally cool with no worry about burns.

[@Fizzyfuzzybignbuzzy]

This is killer Devin the second I saw this I was intrigued. I hate the jet boil style bulk/ weight but I absolutely love its design and functionality. Does this firemaple pot work with a BRS stove?

[@BackcountryExposure]

I’ve always wondered why there’s so much plastic and bulk around the stove of the Jetboil. Maybe thetas where the Stash system from them makes more sense. No, the BRS stove does NOT work with this pot. I mean it will, but it doesn’t slide into the pots cut outs, it’d have to sit on top of them. The BRS pot supports don’t extend perpendicular to the burner.

[@Fizzyfuzzybignbuzzy]

@@BackcountryExposure thank you for this review and that extra info. I am trying to find the windmaster with the three arms but they are all showing four supports. Is that a piece you have to buy separate? It looks to be with this pot and the windmaster combo that wind is almost totally protected with how close and covered the burner is.

[@BackcountryExposure]

@@Fizzyfuzzybignbuzzyyeah I bought mine with the 3 flex, but now I think they sell it with the 4 flex, and you can buy the 3 flex separately from Soto. Pretty sure I saw it on Amazon too.

[@user-no2ei6dp2q]

Minimo for the win!!!!!

[@Bikepacking]

Check out Kieth Ti6300 Multifunctional Titanium Cooker it the best pot i ever used

[@lcdrjsmasterson]

Agreed, the Keith Ti6300 is incredible! My wife hiked the AT with it and regularly steamed fresh rice with beef jerky and fresh vegetables for an amazing dinner.

[@Bikepacking]

@@lcdrjsmasterson yeah thats why i got it steam rice perfect ever time and did you know you can even bake bread in it very well designed from japan ..

[@BackcountryExposure]

Okay I’ve seen that pot. But didn’t realize it was a double pot so you could steam like a pressure cooker. Steam baking too! Definitely going to add it to the list. 😊

[@lcdrjsmasterson]

​@@Bikepacking... Yeah, I saw a video of it being used to bake bread, but I haven't tried it yet. I dig it for rice the most because I found that I can cook perfect rice (100g dry) using a Fancy Feast alcohol stove with 1 ounce of alcohol. While I'm cooking the rice, I can add anything to it and it still comes out perfect. I don't like that the latches lock going upward though, that's always felt bass-ackwards. You can't nest fuel canisters in there either, but the alcohol stove fits perfect.

[@Bikepacking]

@@BackcountryExposure yeah once you own it you never need another pot again ..and same with Optimus Polaris Optifuel cooker you can use any fuel dont need to change any nozzles when switching fuel .. and you can easy clean it even when your using it .. thier tag line is it maybe not your first stove but it will be your last

[@drytool]

On a thru-hike fuel efficiency is a HUGE factor, I say.

[@LisaDHolmes]

Have you tried boiling water in the Petrol with the lid on? When I do this, the lid gets suctioned on and I can't get it off until the water cools off. Seems strange since the lid has holes for draining but this consistently happens to me.

[@BackcountryExposure]

Yes that’s happened to me as well. I wonder if it’s more that the plastic expands just enough from the heat that it gets stuck.

[@Mike_Blanda]

Only for the first couple boils…. It hasn’t done it to me since

[@LisaDHolmes]

@@Mike_Blanda Good to know! I’ll keep using it and see if it stops happening.

[@LisaDHolmes]

@@BackcountryExposureYeah, that’s what I figured was happening. Did it stop after multiple uses?