This Netflix Show is WORSE than Fifty Shades of Grey

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In NO WAY am I trying to excuse Billie's actions throughout this show - she's the one that started the downfall of her own life, it's just clear that the writing is trying to make us find the stuff Cooper does worse so we sympathize more with Billie as the narrator... until the end where it all goes up in flames.
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[@pmadude160]

Rumor has it if you watch Amanda’s Fifty shades, Twilight fanfics, romance novel, three six five, and this video back to back, you qualify to be licensed as a clinical psychologist

[@Naathalia12]

Haha, me finishing my psych degree

[@Strannik01]

You're certainly qualified to write the next big Wattpad sex drama hit type thing.

[@evakonopka121]

@@Strannik01 coming to Netflix in 2022 😍

[@its_v69]

Haha

[@GeekPsychologist]

Damn. I wasted 4 and a half years of my life going to university.

[@viviantompkins7925]

No line will ever make me cringe as hard as “Are you lost, baby girl?”

[@AmandaTheJedi]

There are no memes that good in this show

[@sharee1053]

I just got over the PTSD.... 😢😢😢😢

[@5am_nightmares]

I have started looming over my friends' shoulders whispering "are you lost baby girl" and now I can't stop

[@emtims1670]

I laugh every time someone brings this up!

[@MeganIsNotHere]

@@5am_nightmares you are evil incarnate

[@marlowener]

the show sucks ass but my dad was a key makeup artist on it and he said it was one of the easiest jobs he's done in years, so at least they were good to their crew lol!

[@blueorchid9455]

thats kinda a cute behind the scenes story, it did create jobs and they were relative good based on what you said, so nice outlook

[@oliviafernandes9195]

Ow that's good to know

[@llamathedrama1454]

wait is your dad a makeup artist? that's coolest thing i ever heard!

[@kamonskye240]

I love YT comments like this that remind me that totally normal people work on these shows lol

[@AnikMonette]

​@@blueorchid9455Agreed, but what is it with shows and movies that have better stories on their set than in their narrative?!😅

[@youcantduccthezucc6806]

The main character is beyond repulsive. Cheating on your spouse shouldn’t be romanticized and it ESPECIALLY shouldn’t be labeled as “feminism”. Nothing about this screams feminist to me or any other sane woman. Billie doesn’t respect herself at all and chooses to only hyperfocus on the sexual aspect of the relationship seeing how she chases after an absolute trash of a human being that is Brad. Cooper has done some questionable shit throughout the series, but in comparison he’s nowhere near as bad as those two and can be (somewhat) redeemed. Brad and Billie deserve each other seeing how shitty they are as human beings. What’s with media’s obsession with glamorizing cheating anyway?

[@PatriciaSmyle]

Who said it’s supposed to be feminist ? Who says the main character is supposed to be sane ? It’s all fiction… And also, how is the show glamorizing cheating ? Billie literally spends half of the time crying and being depressed

[@youcantduccthezucc6806]

@@PatriciaSmyle the way Billie’s actions were portrayed (especially in the last episode) made me think that they were not only trying to justify her actions, but frame it as feminism. Yeah, Billie does show SOME remorse, but the way they’re trying to demonize Cooper for doing the exact same thing is what got to me. Writers are trying to make the audience sympathize with Billie and root for her, while she keeps destroying her marriage and actively harming her spouse - that’s why I think they’re glamorizing the entire ordeal

[@PatriciaSmyle]

@@youcantduccthezucc6806 i don't see it that way... all i could think about during the whole series was how dumb Billie was for destroying her marriage and how her actions pushed Cooper to cheat on her (i know that doesn't justify his cheating). Not once i thought it was a feminist choice, i just see her as an immature and lost girl who wants to have it all. I really liked Cooper, he was the only sane one and he was just trying to save his marriage

[@youcantduccthezucc6806]

@@PatriciaSmyle agree to disagree. I thought that the writers were trying to make her out to be a feminist for choosing to do what she desired (I consider myself to be a feminist and I frankly felt very offended). I don’t understand why writers these days are so bad at writing actually empowered female characters

[@Onnarashi]

The media only glamorises cheating when women do it. When men cheat, we're disgusting pigs. We're supposed to just "take it" when women put us down, degrade us, make us feel inadequate and unwanted, because that's "female empowerment".

[@leahmarie112]

Cooper Is the only person in all of this who even thought about the kids for a second. Let’s not chastise his delivery 😅. Brad is asking a mother of 2 to marry him but he literally doesn’t want to be a father.

[@georgempacosta]

That is a good point

[@dominikas6939]

I mean the show still is toxic and billie is awful (so are all 4 of them tbf) but in all fairness Brad did want kids by the end. He didn’t want them at first bc of his dad but im pretty sure he overcame that when billie got pregnant and he acc wanted it.

[@leahmarie112]

@@dominikas6939 I did watch the show so I know what happened. The only indication of Brad wanting kids was one line of dialogue saying he’s “finally ready”. But give me a break his moods change like the wind and he would be taking on another mans children. It’s badly, badly written garbage.

[@taylorgayhart9497]

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! Like Brad is going to stick around once he realizes how much work being a parent is!! One of those babies is NURSING, that means years before the kids will consistently be staying with their dad!!!!

[@leahmarie112]

@@taylorgayhart9497 and let’s talk about how inappropriate that apartment is for young children 😅😅😅

[@char6481]

The most unbelievable part of the whole series was, why would you still have your ex’s number if you haven’t seen or spoken to each other in over 8 years?

[@leahmarie112]

I raise you one more - Why would she pick up the phone twice, surprised and not knowing who it was while simultaneously having him saved her contacts and seeing his name when he texts her?

[@Bringon-dw8dx]

Tbf I never delete numbers or change my number so plausible

[@JReds-bw9kg]

@@Bringon-dw8dx same

[@LunaWitcher]

My guy/gal, I haven't deleted a number I saved on my phone since high school, I just finished my second degree, some people are just that lazy and saving contacts to your Google account instead of your SIM card has just made it worse

[@chestersnap]

I liked this thinking "yeah!" And then I checked my contacts and I still have ex's number in my phone from several years ago. Tbf, I'm fairly certain I deleted it but google remembers everything and tends to put it back into my contacts

[@chelscara]

Netflix: Tells me to hate Cooper Me: Man, it sucks what people do when they're mentally and emotionally manipulated, poor Cooper, Netflix: >:(

[@hugoumero9723]

Me : yeah fuck you Netflix you make every characters died,cancelled the shows just from smut fanfic that became from wattpad,hope you will shut down forever

[@dreamer9375]

I ended up hating everyone expect Sash and Cooper and the kids of course(poor kids). At least they both have some sense of right and wrong.

[@monimoobag246]

As a woman, I never understand the romanisation of toxic relationships. When can we get a show where the main couple loves each other very healthily and still be sexy sometimes. Where they aren’t fantasying about their exes (cuz that’s just fucking weird). 🤦‍♀️

[@nebula1oftheseven488]

Addams family 🖤

[@irian42]

I think it stems from the idea that conflict is needed for such a story to be interesting. Which is somewhat true, but sometimes a low stakes story about people that care for each other would be all I need

[@monimoobag246]

@@nebula1oftheseven488 truuueee such good movies

[@monimoobag246]

@@irian42 yeah exactly. There is conflict in every relationship but it would nice to see more fictional relationships where the conflict is cheating and other related things. Even healthy couples have conflict and I’d love to see more well written films that show this

[@monimoobag246]

@@danielasilva8765 honestly 😆

[@boysobsession100]

I think the worst part about this show is that Billie has relatable fears but it gets really hard to empathize with and like her as a character, which also results in the writers robbing Cooper and turning him into the villain of sorts so that Billie isn't as bad in comparison

[@ariannasilva4462]

Honestly. They could have explore relatable themes about Post Partum Depression Disorder and being parents. Especially being parents in a slowly dwindling relationship. It's really aggravating. These are serious issue that feel kind of trivialized.

[@frostfang1]

It just makes me want to rewatch Tully.

[@irian42]

I must admit I still find Cooper less horrible than Billie. He did really shitty things but I can understand that they stem from his (somewhat understandable) insecurities. I just don't really know why both of them wanted to stay together....

[@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701]

at least the show had a fucking hot cast, dont deny that

[@liubovbelotserkovskaya9978]

@@frostfang1 yeeeeees! Exactly.

[@midnight_rose2337]

I didn’t watch the show, but these are some things I took from it: 1. Cooper has *major* self-esteem issues definitely not helped by his wife messing with his head by writing about her wild, sex-filled past. 2. Does Billie even respect herself? Why would she still want someone who had treated her so poorly? 3. It appears that Cooper’s infidelity is framed as the bad thing that it is while the ending scene of Billie going to Brad is framed as something of a girl power moment? Why? Adultery is horrible no matter what. 4. Having fantasies about your past is one thing. Getting yourself and other caught in this tangled web of toxicity is another. 5. *ALWAYS TALK TO YOUR PARTNER IF YOU ARE DISSATISFIED IN ANYTHING. COMMUNICATE PEOPLE.*

[@Marie-ds1mz]

Amen, amen and *checks notes* amen!

[@johnsnow04]

I can aswer number 3. Its Netflix and its female production. So it will always be bad if a guy does it and always be good if a girl does it. Its even framed as a good thing "OMG girl you have 85% of your needs taken care, that is not enough you need 100%". They were also very careful that no matter how horrible she was and was her thats causing troubles(talking to ex, jerking off on him fucking her best friend) it was always her husband who crossed the line first. He wants his Boss, he gets BJ at the party etc. Its a basic problem that Netflix and even other productions today have now. They look at it through "Twitter lens" so no matter how horrible female is, male needs to be worse. For other examples see "I Care a Lot". No matter how a monster of a female character is, its always framed as she is in the right.

[@lastquarter3992]

@@johnsnow04 See, about the 85% thing, I could be fine with it if it were framed correctly. Like, saying "Maybe you and your husband should try therapy to fix that issue or get a divorce if you feel like this isn't a fulfilling relationship" could be an alright message. Here though it's "get both girl. Keep your husband for the stability and cheat on him at every turn for the spiciness". Trust is thrown out the window, it's disgusting.

[@Sasu123456789x1]

All of this!!! 👏🏾👏🏾

[@brynnehu3643]

@@johnsnow04 I don’t think the mostly female production is really all to blame for this trash. There have been plenty of trashy shows and movies made by predominantly men or just normal men/women crews. I do agree there is a weird blind spot in how current media portrays adultery with men vs women, where it’s always bad with men but with women there can be “exceptions.” Hopefully writers will soon realize that this is stupid, but it’s a bit of a generalization to say the trash story is only because of the predominantly female crew, rather than the shitty writing of a few individuals who happen to be female. Also “I care a lot” was pretty clear cut in how shitty the protagonist was, she’s a classic anti hero, walter white, anyone? Tony Soprano? Don Draper? Dexter? And the protagonist of I care a lot literally gets her just desserts at the end, ignoring the fact that the whole movie is pretty much about her downfall. Awful people being the main character of a piece of media (both of high and low quality) is not an invention of feminism, as much as people would like to believe.

[@rynthorn1551]

"The way he works it in my kitty cat" is the erotica version of "I'm weird. I'm a weirdo. I don't want to fit in."

[@steamyvegetables1445]

And "ArE yOu LOsT bABy giRl"?🤪

[@cro.7081]

radiohead moment

[@UnagiTempura]

Also the fact that someone who was getting her doctorate in psychology, and worked as a THERAPIST FOR CHILDREN was so pathetically easily manipulated and emotionally toyed with is super disconcerting. She has zero autonomy. Is a total doll swayed by everything everyone else does with zero attempt to take responsibility for herself

[@Onnarashi]

Sounds like an ideal show for modern women: no personal responsiblty but all the entitlement in the world.

[@jazzfarer]

While I agree that most of the characters in the show are garbage, being able to help untangle other people's lives doesn't mean you have even the capability of seeing your own life clearly. If that were true, there wouldn't be so many therapists needing to see other therapists.

[@incharak1927]

@@Onnarashi bro are you okay? you're in every comment thread kinda bashing women. Don't let shit like this paint pictures in your head of what women are like. It's toxic garbage.

[@Onnarashi]

@@incharak1927 I'm bashing women?

[@shareetz3154]

@@Onnarashi yeah, you are actually. 🙄🙄

[@rgs8970]

I have a preschool-aged child, and I do not understand how anyone with small kids has the time to do any of this intrigue/cheating/breaking into houses

[@huynhthuyhanh3906]

seriously, i don't have kid but i have seen enough people with small child like that having time to sleeping and eating is sacred to them.

[@fairytala]

That's propably the MOST unrealistic part of these shows... :D

[@anycullen21]

I dont even have children and I barely get 7h to wash, eat and sleep

[@krisztimunnoch7523]

Well they always have a nanny over :D

[@melodyalex9507]

Your life doesn’t have to stop just cause you got kids

[@TheOnlyBasketCase]

This show has just the worse kind of relationship where I just get disgusted at almost every moment in it. *Can't wait to watch season 2.*

[@samf.s8786]

I think the plot has a classic case of "adult films logic".

[@TheRealityofFake]

I know! I was definitely hate-watching this show. Can't wait to torture myself some more next season

[@edeniceribeiro7075]

I was thinking about hate-watching it but i thought the trailers were to boring, do you recommend watching to suffer?

[@turkicnomad5632]

It makes me feel less terrible about my immense failures as a partner.

[@TheOnlyBasketCase]

@@edeniceribeiro7075 If you want to rage and have a feeling of punching the peeps on the show in the face, then yes.

[@komal146]

These movies act like stability and passion are mutually incompatible. The "passion" these female protagonists feel is basically some form of emotional abuse and insecurity.

[@amyadams9970]

I understand the feeling of needing, at the same time...you cheat on your build-like-a-Greek-god husband for a man who cheated on you and dumbed you after you lost your baby? Like the husband has problems but...your willing to give up stability, good marriage, money and a man that loves you, with loving children who adore you...for that 15 percent? I can't handle the stupidity, thank you for watching the series because I wouldn't.

[@JEM-hl4dk]

Oh my god, that part. Her husband is build like wow. I couldn't understand what she was looking for.

[@dreamer9375]

Copper was the one person I could bear in this shitty show.

[@jonasquinn7977]

It sounds like the show is constantly trying to excuse Billie’s actions and make out Cooper’s to be worse while also acting as if it’s impossible that Cooper could ever have legitimate reasons to want a divorce

[@hayteren]

Makes sense… the show is written by a woman who is trying to justify her own ineptness in a relationship and making her self insert to be a hero in a clearly villainess behavioral pattern

[@angelicsailor1st]

@@hayteren yeah it's exactly that and I don't appreciate it Its putting a bad name on all female writers, directors, filmmakers etc when shitty things get made

[@MM-hf6om]

@@angelicsailor1st honestly I don't even like self inserts when they are actually positive but this? But this is the type to make me go " go f yourself " to the writer

[@angelicsailor1st]

@@MM-hf6om yes! Nothing matters if the writing is horrible it's not funny, its frustrating, aggravating and just a waste of money in my mind

[@runeanonymous9760]

@@angelicsailor1st it’s because most things are terrible, and there are more males in the business, so any woman hired in the same way as a man has the same odds of being good, but also there are just less of them so it’s harder to find good things- it’s not just choosing whatever girl shows up first for sj brownie points, film studios (and television networks) are just dumb

[@abbewinter9249]

A few weeks back, some friends and I were dragging terrible "romance" stories, such as 50 shades, Kissing Booth, ect. Someone brought up this mess, which I had previously not had the misfortune of hearing of, and I knew I wasn't going to watch it, but I still wanted to know more. So thank you, Amanda, for saving my eyes, my sanity, and the reputation of my profile on the Netflix account I share with my parents.

[@runeanonymous9760]

I mean, 50 Shades and this are basically high-budget premium pornography, The Kissing Booth has no excuse

[@need-to-know-]

So I can watch it on mute, then?

[@suyint.6841]

don't forget after and its equally or more terrible sequels

[@Kalvin5]

Amanda has saved me from SO MUCH crap!

[@annak8604]

Also, why does this woman's "true self" have to do so much with what man she's with? It sounds like she needs to be single for a bit and find her "true self" that way. I know this is a woman lead production but the idea of who you are being so defined by a man is so blatantly sexist.

[@MM-hf6om]

I wouldn't say sexist as women like her exist . I would say its insane that they portray these as positive traits.

[@PatriciaSmyle]

It’s just a show… the characters are obviously flawed, that’s the whole point

[@Onnarashi]

As a man I find it interesting how so much of this toxic trash is written (and directed) by women. Twlight, Fifty Shades, 365 etc. As men we get accused of being disgusting, objectifying etc. and yet I keep seeing these films and shows written by and for women where women cheat, ogle men, are irresponsible, entitled, materialistic, and all kinds of toxic.

[@emilyau8023]

@@Onnarashi uhm, I think you're using selective facts to try to say women do this to themselves when men do it to women as well. In fact, ever thought that women directors know the toxic market well enough that they just continue the sexist themes? Afterall, if you're being sexualized and discriminated on because of your gender why not take advantage of the system that was originally created by men? You seem to have forgotten that there's an entire porn market for men that have themes of cheating, SA, kidnapping, etc. I don't actually care if that's your kink and you want to jerk off to it as long as you don't act on it. This show is just like a porno with just as bad of a storyline. It's just being marketed on a public streaming service and somehow that upsets you. Somehow that brought you to the thought that women do this to themselves as you jerk it to something just as bad. Additionally, it doesn't even take a few minutes to search up sexist male directors who are probably under scrutiny for SAing female actresses during filming. Furthermore, all the movies you listed aren't that popular amongst the public outside of teenagers and horny people. You'll find big hit movies that won awards that portray women in a disgusting light created by male directors who are complimented for their work to this day. Films that are basically pedophilic in nature, but are disregarded for the times. These themes are equally disgusting and it doesn't matter what gender you are as a director and it honestly is maddening that you chose to focus on the gender of the directors rather than just pointing out the theme is toxic. I didn't think I would have to say this, but these toxic themes are represented from directors of both sexes.

[@Onnarashi]

@@emilyau8023 I wasn't talking about porn, but sure I guess. Also, shows written and directed by women typically are meant for a female audience, so why include male sexist tropes? BTW as a man I find shows like this off-putting. If it was directed by men and catering to men, I'd think the same thing, but the thing is that I don't thnk men have the same degree of interest in sexy dramas as women. Usually, shows catering to men are more action-based, i. e. fighting, danger, sci-fi, drugs.

[@irena4545]

In a nutshell: a story about selfish D-bags who never got past the hormonal stage of a relationship and cannot accept adult responsibility.

[@moonsubsrare7590]

Basically

[@GenerationWest]

I know five things about this show beforehand: 1. It's a female driven production, with female writers, directors and creators. 2. Sarah Shahi is naked a lot in this 3. There's some me full frontal make nudity 4. Sarah and the male lead dude starting dated because if it. 5. And the show has some godawful reviews. That's all I need to know.

[@Emancy3]

Tbh that sounds like "Jennifer's Body" 😂😂 (Except the dating part ig)

[@paperboy1116]

fun fact: Sarah got divorced during 2021. I wonder why.

[@WhyThisWhyNow]

@@Emancy3 Was anyone really naked in Jennifer’s body? I don’t remember seeing any nudity in the movie; male, female or anyone else. And who dated, seriously dude, spill the beans… The Godawful reviews part and the all female making team are the only parts I am able to verify.

[@baebyun2914]

@@WhyThisWhyNow no, the only time "nudity was shown" Megan's character was shirtless and her hair was covering her breasts. Aside from that only legs, cleavage, and her back

[@WhyThisWhyNow]

@@baebyun2914 this, I remember. The partial frontal nudity which was actually tastefully done. I was puzzled when it was so hated back then, it was something different. Now I see it was the marketing messing things up.

[@sonzi2013]

The cutting out of the "sex" part in the title is absolutely killing me

[@AmandaTheJedi]

After MUCH testing I figured out that was literally the only thing that was getting the video demonetized so I had to sacrifice for the good of discoverability

[@me30000]

@@meaninglessmovietalk4283 iirc, KZbin has a rule or something where a youtuber cannot swear in the first minute of the video

[@WinterFogFilms]

@@me30000 sex isn't... a swear word tho?

[@dylanbranam8535]

@@WinterFogFilms well,,, to youtube it is

[@user-qh2xz2bf1l]

@@WinterFogFilms KZbin sucks that's why

[@coffeemug3009]

And I thought the 2000s romantic comedies were too cheesy, somehow the post-streaming 2010s are even worse if not the worst, straight out toxic, dumb and manipulative.

[@LeoDBW]

2000s: Legally Blonde, cheesy comedie movie about female friendship and empowerment, about leaving things that make you unhappy and showing your worth without losing yourself. 2010s: 50 shades of Grey Something went really wrong in barely a decade....

[@FruityHachi]

i mean even those 00s rom-coms have some toxic shit, like romancizing stalking and manipulation, in the notebook the guy literally threatens to kill himself if she doesn’t go on a date with him but yeah, 10s movies are even more toxic

[@zo4196]

I feel bad for their children, there is no way that they aren't being at least subconsciously affected by all that even if they don't know whats going on (thankfully)

[@raicrush]

I’m lowkey shocked that Billy didn’t abandon her kids, seems the type-

[@moonlitskylight5740]

I think she's going to lose them next season.

[@johnhenry4844]

@@moonlitskylight5740 Hopefully

[@soonsims]

She kept drinking alcohol...while breast feeding. That's the kind of mother she is. Disgusting.

[@georgempacosta]

@@soonsims holly shit i didn't notice this before

[@raicrush]

@@soonsims DMN DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF THAT.

[@nirman423]

Why do we keep on getting a yearly overly sexual fantasy that is just glorifying toxic relationships? Don't get me wrong, get off on what you get off and enjoy your garbage... I just feel like the reason people are enjoying it are outside of the toxic relationships on display but everything else here and in stuff like 365 Days. So why is do we always go back to such toxicity in a glorifying way????

[@solace8355]

Don’t get me wrong, these stories suck, but I’m guessing they’re so popular because of how batshit insane they tend to be with their drama. For the people who watch it sincerely, they find it interesting. For the people who watch it ironically, it’s because they’re a train wreck you can’t look away from. Also the target demographic consists of horny, middle-aged women who are either in a stable but not very spicy relationship (like the MC of this, now that I think about it, minus the cheating) or are single divorcees.

[@nirman423]

@@solace8355 I get a lot of that but as I said I feel like if that's the case the toxicity could be dropped and the drama/trainwreck you can't look away from will still be there. It is less the why people are watching this stuff and more why is there always some underline of toxic behavior that gets romanticized for no reason and honestly tends to barely even be commented on by the story itself (the forced sexual situations in 365 days despite promising not to do it to the woman until she wants it and the emotional cheating that's is disregarded for the opposite parties actual cheating)

[@sleepysera]

Idk, fictional toxicity is just kinda...fun? I could never watch something this trashy, but if I look at what I enjoy reading, there's definitely some overlap in the toxic relationship department. I can't really explain why I like it - irl toxic or abusive relationships are the worst but the fictional version of it is fun because you get all the desperation and uncontrollable NEED for the other person without any of the actual consequences because no real person actually gets hurt.

[@nirman423]

@@sleepysera that's really fair. I don't want to intrude on said fun in anyway or devalue it. My problem is mostly how it feels like the show glorifys them by not addressing their toxic elements that the show seems unaware of. Again if that's part of the fun and enjoyment it's far from me to tell anyone they shouldn't enjoy it or anything like that. I just wonder about the system that keeps on missing that this elements are toxic you know?

[@rashotcake6945]

People are turned on by what is forbidden to them. For example, many feminists love the idea of being dominated in bed by men. Many traditional conservative men love the idea of being dominated by a woman in bed. Many monogamous folk fantasize about polyamory. Etc. You get the idea

[@gabrielle3960]

For the record I don’t say “kitty cat” while referencing my parts to my close friends. We all say vagina without flinching. Because were grown ass women

[@anycullen21]

I swear all these new toxic sex stories are making Christian Grey look like the perfect man

[@dylanrodrigues]

We need to stop having so much adultery in media. I understand that the conflicts that ensue provides a lot of story content but this is too much. I see this with Asian dramas too, not just in Hollywood. One end of the spectrum, infidelity is just straight up glamourized or justified. On the other end, we see the full, painful consequences for the cheated party and it always breaks my heart. I think we should stop depicting infidelity and just find some other trope to run to the ground.

[@ChipsDeBurnish]

This! It looks like the movie industry can't physically make healthy relationships and rely on the most toxic tropes. And even dare to present these as "normal"...

[@imsadlol4528]

“me no like something so it should not exist 😡😡”

[@Elora445]

@@imsadlol4528 That's not what they said. They seem to be tired of this trope and simply want some new trope to be run into the ground instead. Anyone can get tired of a trope and want to see something new instead.

[@ashcoolik4492]

Agreed!!!

[@avgerinos8280]

The Philippine Entertainment Industry has to realize this or I'll make THEM! 😭

[@AmandaTheJedi]

See you for season two 😔 Oh in NO WAY am I trying to excuse Billie's actions throughout this show - she's the one that started the downfall of her own life, it's just clear that the writing is trying to make us find the stuff Cooper does worse so we sympathize more with Billie as the narrator... until the end where it all goes up in flames.

[@zionkurtz6894]

god I hope not

[@joeymills5827]

oh no :(

[@milktea6676]

What can be worse then fifty shades of gray?

[@asarishepard8171]

whats the name of this lol

[@MT-od7mc]

Stay strong, Amanda!

[@pokelover1kassey]

If I wanted plot driven porn I'd go on Ao3 to find a Naruto x Sasuke fic with better writing than this

[@spreadhappiness3250]

LMAO 😭😭

[@ceciliatoledo837]

sasunaru and obikaka teen writers indeed do a better job

[@craigh5236]

As someone who has been in a good marriage for 20 years this kind of behavior is absolutely alien to me. Why would you go around hurting the people that care about you so much just because you want excitement? Hurting people makes you a bad person.

[@CeltCanCook]

"I'm not one to disappoint...except for my parents when I make these videos." I feel that on a deeply personal level.

[@sarahwithstars]

We sympathise. We relate.

[@minniemcc]

The book is soooooo much better I swear. BB (Billie) loves her husband and after realising he read the journal she planted fake stories about her exes to change specific behaviours like getting him to give her a nickname. Ken (Cooper) in the book is really loveable and has no reason to feel threatened because she writes about mulitple exes insted of fixating on one. BB also shares how flawed her past relationships were and clearly does not wish to relive any of it.

[@rebeccafernandes6415]

Sounds a ton better than this shit

[@anthonythompson6053]

Honestly I think that would have made a better show. Maybe flash back to those relationships for the people who are into that, focus on the rebuilding of the relationship and reestablishing communication... I can dream

[@kiararawat7812]

Exactly! This show is such a disappointment, I can't understand how the author got behind such a distorted screenplay of her novel

[@ragnarokaftershock]

@@anthonythompson6053 things can't be "fun" anymore. If it isn't a dumb drama bigwigs dont think its gonna sell for some reason.

[@als2480]

Okay but that actually sounds interesting

[@Serechor]

As someone who is asexual, hearing about these kinds of shows always makes me think. The fact that Billy/Billie inherently finds sex to be THAT appealing is so interesting to me, and it makes me wonder how people can be so dependent on their sexual desires, even if they supposedly love someone. It's really hard for me to try to understand her motivations, as it seems like all she wanted was sex, like the "novelty" of her marriage was getting old. Honestly, I'm in doubt that she even loved her husband.

[@fauna1974]

im not asexual but i feel the same way. The fact that pure sexual desires can make a person throw everything away is interesting..

[@golflefleur887]

Ace girl here, and honestly same. These shows are so wild to me, it's like watching a nature documentary where everyone just seems to act based on their most primal instincts, while seemingly disregarding all common sense/logic/empathy for others. Couldn't be me.

[@luvithdrevis]

Hey, i'm ace too and I couldn't agree more.

[@EmyN]

Ikr? I'm not asexual but I just kept thinking how can she need sex so damn much lol

[@keroessa0146]

I'm asexual and I have no idea why this was made

[@JadeReloaded]

I will never watch this show but i have questions. 1. Why do these guys fight so hard for this woman? She's pretty but seems to have the Twilight problem where the female lead, in the words of Kennie JD, has the personality of lawn clippings. Why is she worth fighting for? 2. As a parent i have to know, how does she have the time/energy for all this while looking after a baby? When my child was this age, i barely had the strength to shower, let alone journal, scheme, and fuck around. And i didn't have a second kid that is the age when they will definitely try to climb up the chandelier, eat detergent and put the possum they found into the dishwasher for a good clean. 3. Does any kind of therapy even come up as a possible tactic to deal with these issues? 'Cause that would be my first thought.

[@Onnarashi]

I can answer no. 1. It was based on a book witten by a woman for women, and the show is written and directed by women for women, so they need to stroke the self-insert egos of their bored housewife viewers. A lot of women feel entitled to male attention but not all of them get attenton from the "right" (handsome/successful/tall) men, so shows like this exist.

[@aloe.wera.]

as for 2., Billie leaves her children with the babysitter a lot. like A LOT. i can remember one scene where she’s describing how tiring motherhood is and she’s shown taking a shower and her baby needing immediate attention so she gets out without having the time to dry herself off; she’s also up a lot of the time at night because her baby is restless so i guess that’s why she has the time to write in the journal? but yes it all seems very unrealistic. point 3. is what cracks me up because billie actually is getting her PHD in psychology and her current job is a school counselor if i remember correctly. she’s supposed to be an amazing psychologist i guess. Cooper mentions how the kids at school loved her and her friend Sasha praises her a lot for her skills as well. i think the only person who suggests therapy is Sasha, but Billie never responds to this..?? also another point i never see anyone mention is that Billie drinks alcohol while breastfeeding 😐

[@JadeReloaded]

@@aloe.wera. thank you, that was actually helpful! Yea, the shower scene seems realistic, and if she is breastfeeding she should definitely stick around more. No shaming for the babysitter, like hire help if you can and if you need it, sure, but this just makes her come across even more selfish. As for her studying psych, dunno what here goal is, but here in Hungary (as far as i know) if you want to become a licenced therapist you have to take therapy first to make sure your own shit doesn't cloud your judgement. Must say, being brilliant in figuring out other people while totally screwing up your own life is also something I've seen plenty of ppl do, so that is also a positive.

[@kyris66]

Yeah, as a psych major, why wasn’t her first thought that MAYBE she might be going through some kind of PPD and seek help? Cos this all ain’t normal and she of all people should know people who can help her with therapy.

[@OpheliaTerat]

@@Onnarashi As a woman, I feel like its more of a wish fullfillment thing than the women into it actually feeling entitled. I think the fantasy of having two attractive people interested in you is something a lot of people fantasize about, regardless of gender. I mean, just take a look at how popular the harem genre is in stuff like anime.

[@blakefarron]

When season 2 comes around, just remember Netflix has a 1.5 times speed. Instead of eight hours of torture, you can suffer through like five and a half instead

[@kuroeltheog]

So mad this feature isn't available on the PS4 app. :(( For two years I thought it was a US only feature until I logged onto my browser Netflix. But I don't like taking my laptop to bed.

[@themimsy]

Cheating is one of the scummiest things you can do in a relationship. And I especially hate how in media, when women cheat, it’s framed as either an “okay” or even a “girl power” moment. But if a guy does it, he’s framed like an absolute villain. Just don’t. Cheating is NEVER okay. Neither for the man or the woman. If you think you cheating is okay, you don’t deserve a relationship or a caring and loving partner.

[@imsadlol4528]

okay. that’s not true lmaooo. plenty of men in media cheat and are still framed as the good guys, first one that comes to mind is don draper from mad men. get that stick out of your ass. it’s a fucking fictional story like yeah- cheating is bad- everyone knows that. that doesn’t make it any less entertaining to watch in movies and tv shows like this. and also stop complaining about double standards that don’t exist

[@Ethan-nl2wg]

@@imsadlol4528 maybe the cheating isn’t the best example but double standards do exist for both genders and it has happened in media it would be ignorant to imply otherwise

[@calvintyler9281]

@@imsadlol4528 mad men ended in like 2014. he was presented as an ass from the beginning and his behavior was never glorified just shown and felt and mad men was an actual show with things to say while this show is a Circle jerk of garbage people with nothing to offer that I can't get from a fanfiction online. Besides their are cases where this specific double standard exists just not so much anymore-probably because of stuff like this.

[@MM-hf6om]

@@imsadlol4528 wasn't draper portrayed as a scumbag in madmen?

[@beckyweiss6072]

@@calvintyler9281 I was about to say - Mad Men presented the content of the show in a very frank manner. Aka "this is what happened and yeah it's not good at all." Underneath what one might call "glamour" was some pretty twisted shit in the early 60s. I feel really bad for Sally Draper. She's got a loooot to unpack.

[@snikrdoodls14]

The woman had two children with her husband, yet talking to the man about the staleness in bedroom magic is so difficult. Just go buy a set of handcuffs from a costume shop and see-through lingerie for god sake.

[@SergioKoolhaas]

exactly! bring out the leather, latex, handcuffs, whips and a copy of the kamasutra! what more do you need!?

[@laurenkester8560]

Lmaooo

[@TacticusPrime]

It's fine to have the terrible mother choosing a fling with the bad boy she dated in her 20s be the main character of a show. But the show shouldn't try to excuse her horribleness. We aren't going to buy it.

[@TacticusPrime]

Where the hell are bots getting these comments? It's creepy.

[@brianbommarito3376]

Words of wisdom by my late father: “Never put it in writing.” I would like to add to that: “If you can’t resist the urge to put it in writing, be sure to never save it and to destroy it immediately so that no one ever reads it.” I did this once and I’m so glad I destroyed it, because even though it was enjoyable to write my feelings down at the time, those feelings changed and it became as unpleasant as the scent of skunk spray. From my point of view, my life would have been permanently scarred if I had shared it with anyone, which I wanted to do at the time.

[@JadeReloaded]

As someone who found that putting it in writing has tangible therapeutic benefits for them, i would like to add that putting it on paper, looking at the way my handwriting changes based on the feelings i had during the writing process, and then setting the pages on fire, watching them shrivel and turn to ash CAN feel amazing. But yeah, never keep the writing. You don't keep and store your vomit after getting sick. Get it out of your system, clean up after yourself and move on!

[@NurmaBP]

And most important thing, don't post anything about it on social medias.

[@Torthrodhel]

I kinda disagree. All the awful people out there who do stupid things for no reason should be dumb, should keep putting it (and keeping it) in writing, and should get the consequences. And one should generally speaking, aspire to be open. There are exceptions and there is judgement, but there's also a sense of pride to be had from being okay with being 'dumb' about who you tell stuff to. 'Cos if you're worth not getting in trouble for it, then you'll just not do the bad things, right? And when you do the bad things, own it and deserve it. The adjustments come from people (and systems, and conventions) having different morals to each other, of course. One person thinks something's really bad when it really isn't, etcetera. So yeah you still think on it and make calls. But in a more macro sense, I don't like the idea of being proud of being clever about it. Like to at least aim in the more plain direction. Even from a self-interested standpoint, think about the practical erosion of your psyche, to be constantly aware that you deserve worse. I prefer to deserve better, which means accepting whatever worse I deserved for whichever things I did. Less inner baggage. I don't keep a diary. Just never a habit I could get into, not my thing. But I've done plenty of spilling online and while I do delete some sometimes, I like to think there are reasons outside of image sculpting when I do.

[@emmao6578]

@@Torthrodhel Yes we should aspire to be open with our friends, family etc. but these people are obviously talking about writing that is used essentially like therapy, there are plenty of things you might say to a therapist that do not need to be said to anyone else. It's not to do with "image sculpting" it's to do with not hurting others you care about with your initial angry thoughts or doubts that stem from your own issues that need working through but that they would take to heart anyway. I tried to make sense of the rest of your word vomit cause it feels like there is something of meaning in there but after the first few sentences it becomes so convoluted it's impossible to do.

[@Torthrodhel]

@@emmao6578 rude. I was gonna say I get what you mean. But needlessly rude, so I had to say that first. I was just talking, I wasn't attacking anyone. Fucking rude.

[@jaash7981]

Imagine like social media searching your old high school classmates and you find out that the girl who sat behind you in Algebra II is now making KZbin videos about Netflix pr0n.

[@endTHEhegemony_Today]

I would approve

[@dannyt7269]

With OFs and regular people doing prn, that’ll be like 40% of the occupations at high school reunions in 5yrs.

[@StJimmy-hj1bo]

thats cool haha

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

How's the delivery & content?🔎

[@agentverona]

I found out a boy I was in choir with in jr. high and high school had created a cam show site where he sold videos of himself (while he was 14 -17) to older men. Does that count?

[@MarinaKalle]

"You pushed me too far Billy.." "By asking you NOT to be a SHITHEAD?!" 🤣

[@kittyfacelawl1062]

Ok ok ok hear me out: a show/movie where a couple's s*x life is full and boring and the romance is dead so they try to spice it up with some BDSM. HOWEVER: as it progresses they learn how to PROPERLY perform it and learn from their mistakes and have HEALTHY communication and boundaries are RESPECTED.

[@tsifirakiehl4250]

I would watch the FUCK out of that. (Pun 100% intended.)

[@brainysprite]

My husband and I are going through our divorce and he is getting SO ANGRY about how I keep calling him a cheater because he said he didn't have sex with the other woman until HE knew we were done. In case that wasn't clear, he didn't ever clue me in. I caught him emotionally cheating with the same woman that he admitted to physically cheating on me with. Been a whole ass mess.

[@amara560]

That's truly awful :( sorry you're going through all that

[@mihawk508]

Ma’am this is a Wendy’s…

[@Ethan-nl2wg]

Girl I know this is a hard time and you need to vent, and I don’t mean to come off as disrespectful, but are you sure you want to put this on the internet, instead of in something where people can help you like in therapy?

[@katierasburn9571]

y'all don't belittle this woman for sharing her story ffs

[@Elora445]

Wow, that must be an emotional whirlwind, to say the least. I hope that life will soon stabilize for you and that the feeling of betrayment will get less and less. Try to find possibilities for you to feel more relaxed, to "get away" for a while. Maybe that will help some.

[@xotoast]

i binged it. It was so fucking why? She went through her fucking arch and at the end she was like LMAO JK IMMA GO GET THE D, SEE YOU. I think its implied that they came to an agreement for an open relationship but at the same time any character development that happened she just said "Nawwwwwwwwwwh"

[@sarahwithstars]

This was a superb sum up!

[@julnitti]

Amen!!

[@rose191991]

i hated the end!!! i was on hubby side... she only cared about her hoohaa 🤣 i doesnt makes any sense - should be movie and not show

[@irian42]

I didn't feel they came to an agreement. Why would Cooper track her and look angry if he were okay with it?

[@rose191991]

@@irian42 he def. wasnt ok with that... she was supposed to forgot about brad and she came back to work and they worked on relationship... all for nothing lol

[@BlackCampariBlue]

"he has villain face" I actually went into the show knowing nothing about it and was convinced for most of the watch that this was an erotic thriller where somebody would get killed, suspecting it would be Coop killing the australian dude

[@victoriashevlin8587]

That sounds a hell of a lot more interesting than what actually got made...

[@abramova.a_style]

"if you wanna be horrible - don't be stupid and horrible" - my new motto for life

[@disaidra]

2:35 Now I want to see the alternate version where its just a cute romcom movie about a husband trying to up his game without letting on that he's been reading his wife's diary

[@minniemcc]

That is literally what happens in the book

[@MsReveur]

Now that is something I'd watch! Sounds a lot more interesting than this over the top drama of this show.

[@Wormwoodification]

I was just thinking the plot is like a bad execution of a sitcom episode. Sans the charming comedy and wholesome resolution.

[@johnthemangood8700]

Yo I would watch the fuck out of that

[@katburgess5926]

Props to Amanda for actually watching this all the way through! Netflix really is just churning out the strangest shows.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

I think part of that is that they just buy up a lot of shows in deals with other companies.

[@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701]

at least the show had a fucking hot cast, dont deny that

[@taylorgayhart9497]

Amanda, one thing of note about Cooper asking Brad to take care of the kids, even if they get joint custody, at the age is that they are those kids will still be spending almost all of their time with their mother. Hell one of them is still nursing! Brad will be the primary “dad” around for at least a few years!!! It’s not like we’re talking about older kids who will be splitting their time between the parents, we’re talking about a baby and a toddler who are still going to need their mother a majority of the time. Honestly that just makes the whole thing the more unrealistic, because no mother in their right mind would think that Brad would be a good dad.

[@taylorgayhart9497]

@Ava Zoey that’s so cool about your dad working on a tv show!! Has he done any other shows?

[@deaddumplings5565]

I was just about to comment this lol

[@Jade-bs3pb]

The worst part is that all they had to do was at the end, was write in that the characters realised that they wanted that excitement and weren't getting it from each other, and agreed to open up their relationship sexually, but only to one partner each. They both agree that they communicate when their going to see this partner, maybe even have it booked in once a month as a set date to release that excitement. Then bam, you have a show that demonstrates that not all relationships are perfect, but if you COMMUNICATE you can get what you want or as close as possible.

[@adamnorlen8532]

That sounds like the worst idea ever, all of these people should leave eachother and find someone they actually love

[@dylanrodrigues]

How am I supposed to sympathize with the main character, she is absolutely awful... Like her husband has a lot of issues, but honestly he should leave her and hook up with his hot boss, damn the HR issues, he shouldn't have to deal with this...

[@Musikchic47]

I don’t know if I can take a movie or book seriously when the sexy, man lead is named “Brad” lol

[@runningcommentary2125]

If you type in "top ten names for a frat douche" Brad is second on the list. Chad is first, obviously.

[@Musikchic47]

@@runningcommentary2125 hahaha!

[@CommissarMitch]

I would have loved if this story took a twist and Brad was a bland dude because 8 years has gone by.

[@illusiveaxeman9164]

There's something so weirdly fascinating about sex-centric media, as an asexual who will regularly forget that sex is a thing that happens at all.

[@CursedCatTruffa]

Right? I feel I'm looking at the allosexuals under a microscope, it's so crazy

[@ernie39]

Same lmao

[@IDEKaaaaaaaagh]

The writers know exactly what they're doing. People really love the frantic, evil/weird relationship stuff... I guess to like... feel better about their own relationships or something, lmao. Real dodgy tbh.

[@shekwaga]

I agree. Think it's deliberate. Also, let's not forget that entertainment is used as a form of social control. I am not saying that every TV show/movie has machiavellian intent, but I do believe the masses are fed things we take into our subconscious without examining them. Scenarios that normalize dysfunction, selfishness, greed and unchecked power will then be reflected in the society.

[@tehtayziez]

I think it's also that it caters to the urges to be dangerous, ignore the consequences, throw caution to the weird or even be selfish and possibly villainous. Essentially it's somewhat of a power fantasy to take control of/ enjoy your life. These are popular topics because they often play with that fine line between being a confident, standing up for yourself and believing in your own self worth and the other side where those things are either taken too far, such as tearing others down to feel above them or to act selfishly and destructively in order to have some element of control over aspects of life that people might not feel like they could have the strength to do. The problem is that shows like this make out that this shit is justified, making it feel more like a revenge story, which is all kinds of wrong when you're basically saying it's fine to do shitty things because someone was shitty to you. It's a scarily thin line because so much of its subjective to preference and personal experience that it's kind of dangerous to treat as a generic power fantasy. The other thing is that people just like to get off to being bad ofcourse... which I guess is better if it's left to fantasy so as much as this stuff is trash it kind of serves a purpose I guess lol.

[@tehtayziez]

@222ckc big difference between good characters making realistic mistakes or just being human and the garbage, unlikable people that they come up with for their trashy fan fiction movies. Especially because they're the protagonist the movie plays it like it's some sort of enlightening story of self discovery and no doubt dumbasses out in the world think this is reasonable to act this way in a relationship, or even worse, start thinking that polyamory or open relationships just come from people who want a bit on the side lol.

[@FruityHachi]

unfortunately a lot of people don’t seek therapy to heal their attachment style and are stuck in repetition compulsion jumping from one toxic relationship to another, or sabotaging a functioning relationship because to them stability equals boredom and yep, those people watch shows/movies like this one to feel better about their own shitty behavior instead of taking the time to self-reflect and heal

[@MM-hf6om]

@@FruityHachi ding ding ding

[@gammawolf3]

I love how Amanda tuned out the word sex at the start but then gave up after like 5 minutes

[@angelicsailor1st]

KZbin doesn't let you curse for the first few minutes in a video (they consider the word Sex to be a curse word smh) or you get demonitized

[@datapepple8024]

@@angelicsailor1st yeah I was coming to say this lol. She has to bleep it out for atleast the first 2 minutes, after that, they don’t care what you say lol

[@gammawolf3]

@@angelicsailor1st oh, I didn't know that

[@yugoxgc]

Honestly now that I think about it this show sounds hilarious... like you gonna let your 85% perfect marriage go up in flames for that 15% that you left? Says a lot about how much you value your family

[@shannonrexroat5575]

My husband and I made it to episode 3 before agreeing it wasn't worth our time. I love romantic smut. But I cannot get behind the violations of privacy and rape scenes. Not the explicit rape most people think of but the not listening and continued actions that the other partner asked to stop. It's grossed me out. However, thank you for covering it! Even my morbid curiosity couldn't get me to finish the show and now I'm even happier I didn't. Thank you for your sacrifice.

[@arrow_of_ravenclaw5155]

Remember, they cancelled I’m not okay with this but keep creating stuff like this

[@archer1949]

Teenage Bounty Hunters, we hardly knew ye……

[@broccoli896]

And Santa Clarita Diet, GLOW, The OA, TBH as someone else mentioned, all great shows that deserved more seasons, but instead we get this lmao

[@arrow_of_ravenclaw5155]

@@broccoli896 I’ve been meaning to started the Santa Claira Diet

[@sarahwithstars]

The audacity

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

@@archer1949 Never heard of that one. What's it like?

[@nelilalune]

How is it that books, movies etc. that are made to be erotic and sexy are mostly just cringy....? It's like they want to make an activity, that really can be exciting and fun, look like it's just a weird shitshow between two humans that act like they are out of their minds. Sorry if my phrasing is a bit weird, I'm not a native speaker😅

[@lucifernazaedi]

I think this proves that in marriage and especially your sex life, you need to be communicative with your partner. None of this would have happened if Billie communicated to her husband what was wrong and together they could have fixed their sex life and marriage into something they were both happy with. If something isn’t right with you in your relationship, the first thing you should do is talk to your partner honestly and openly. Communication is what makes or breaks any relationship.

[@ArturGlass.C]

If Cooper cares about Brad so much he should just go and marry him honestly.

[@zaramikazuki8374]

Now that's an enemies-to-lovers fanfic I could probably get behind if written well, lol

[@allanvargastomas3493]

I seriously dislike this type of... "storytelling", because the writers (or writer) simply write ALL characters as people who do bad things all the time for the sake of doing bad things all the time

[@betinababbles249]

Im so glad you talk through these shows. I can’t watch Sex scenes 99% of the time so I just want to know the basic story. Thank you!

[@alisaurus4224]

Amanda does it so we don’t have to

[@leighnicole100]

I binged "s*x/life" within like two days because the lead woman's character drove me INSANE and I ended up finishing it out of spite to see what happened in the end. I ended it angry and unsatisfied.

[@rayspace6362]

Ironically for a series named "sex/life" the majority of the audience seemed to finish angry and unsatisfied. 🙄

[@MadGrubble]

This Netflix series sounds like total trash. The only theme (kind of?) that I can even remotely understand is why someone unhappy might stay married to a person that they do care about but don’t have romantic feelings for because while unfulfilling, the relationship feels safe and predictable.

[@hortensetaylor5707]

I don’t know how to feel about seeing the actress who played Carmen from the L Word and Shaw from Person of Interest starring in this dumpster fire. On one hand, the mental images are hilarious. On the other….oh god, the mental images.

[@user-ok4xb1rd9f]

Honestly same. I am just glad she has work.

[@solaceseries]

She is a mess overall.

[@dylanrodrigues]

I will never watch this show but Shaw from PoI was in this?? What role did she play???

[@user-ok4xb1rd9f]

@@dylanrodrigues It's Sarah Shahi. She is the main lead.

[@hortensetaylor5707]

@@dylanrodrigues Sarah Shahi, the actress who played Shaw, starred as Billie (the main character) in this show

[@Nerdorkgeek]

The whole conflict of this show could have been solved if Billie and Cooper just communicated and decided to have a Polyam relationship. They could both get what they wanted without all the toxicity and hurting each other.

[@mccartneys15]

YES I was so convinced that it will be the ending of this show

[@dannyt7269]

When you’re a married couple with kids, deciding to suddenly be poly is a long stretch to just come to.

[@irian42]

I don't really see Cooper wanting to be in a poly relationship though, he seems to be happy in their marriage and only when the cracks show he seeks outside validation. I mean theoretically they could have decided on just her having multiple partners - but definitely not this way!

[@anthonythompson6053]

Even if it doesn’t end in a poly or open relationship, proper communication could have helped. But I guess it’s too boring?

[@irian42]

@@Bombonribon Well, with these characters I am 100% sure there is no way a poly relationship could work. Especially not after what has already happened...

[@KassWinnie]

This messy, adultery as power, etc types of shows piss me off BADLY! Like... My dad, while being an awesome father, was a f*cking cheater for most of his life and that hurt my family a lot. On the other end of the spectrum, I'm non monogamous and I very much hate the idea of cheating someone, but people don't seem to understand the difference, so anytime I see these things framed in a very lazy or confusing way in television I just get mad

[@jellosapiens7261]

I feel like this whole show is indicative of a larger trend where as polyamory becomes more accepted, the pendulum is swinging REALLY far in the opposite direction, to the point where now non-monogamy is being used an excuse for some genuinely toxic shit, and people will jump to call you "polyphobic" or a "toxic monogamist" if you try to call them on it

[@sparaxisblanc2473]

Yeah.. I don't think excusing this would be good for any kid living in a household like THAT.

[@BellaSwan18]

Phenomenal that all of these stories would be literally nothing if people could actually communicate with each other. Yikes.

[@katherinefrost6318]

I know there's a trope called Idiot Plot where the plot of the work could have been avoided if not for the face that every character involved is an idiot. I propose another trope called the Asshole Plot, for assholes.

[@finngswan3732]

Me starting: Cool, some bad show to dunk on. Me a little after the halfway point: I have taken psychic damage.

[@LRCh_]

This show exists for the sake of every self-righteous non monogamous person who ever said the solution to every romantic drama is "be poly" (The real answer, almost always, is "be therapy")

[@urbanaislambarsha1277]

Believe me I yelled at my phone.. Thank god I didn’t throw my iPhone.. I was so angry at the main character.. So much I feel so sad for Hudson!! He's so attached with his mom. I was shouting the whole time "get a fucking divorce than fuck whoever you want"

[@SergioKoolhaas]

same

[@RR-mv1vr]

Totally

[@tiaqmal4224]

God I watched this in like one sitting and tbh. Ugh. The main woman and her husband have no chemistry. The husband has the personality of a cardboard cutout and just. Literally the worst scene is when the husband actually bones her the way she wants and then he pukes afterwards.

[@midnight_rose2337]

I thought he puked because he was imagining her doing it with Brad.

[@deaddumplings5565]

@@midnight_rose2337 yeah that's what Happened

[@weavery4292]

"As if kids can catch adultery" "It's always a super reasonable response to take out your misguided judgement of a parent on the child" I didn't know I was watching a review of the Scarlet Letter...

[@valeriyavarnavskaya4081]

I knew someone who gave sex for drugs... now she is a SJW caregiver at primary school. Now that.... is difficult to endorse. Because past mistakes do show one's moral standings, like it or not, and kids learn by watching adults

[@kayhaven4710]

@@valeriyavarnavskaya4081 how is it difficult to endorse??? Is she speaking it up in front of the kids? Is she sharing drug habits and where to buy the shit with them?

[@valeriyavarnavskaya4081]

@@kayhaven4710 to the first one - yes, most likely, since the locale has too comprehensive sex education for tots even (written by no other but a convicted sex criminal Ben Levin). As to the second one - also yes, and she doesn't even have to do the hard work, since the locale also has safe injection sites located within play ground vicinity. So, I'm sure in your head it went a different route, but alas, the western world did go bonkers.

[@kayhaven4710]

@@valeriyavarnavskaya4081 while I don’t know this person, to be honest you like a very judgmental person. Just because someone has made mistakes in their past doesn’t mean they can’t change and grow from those mistakes and become a better person.

[@valeriyavarnavskaya4081]

@@kayhaven4710 there is nothing wrong with finding your judgment after giving someone many chances. You seem to be comfortable passing your own judgment on me, so why the double standard?

[@JuMixBoox]

The opposite of monogamy isn't cheating. I feel like someone who has researched that topic should know that.

[@chromesthesia]

I feel like cunnilingus could have solved most of the problems in this show.

[@johnthemangood8700]

Uh yeah pretty much

[@tsipporah7377]

I was an extra on this show in a university lecture scene, and I'm pretty sure they cut it lmao

[@georgempacosta]

Lucky you

[@thegoodwitchlissa]

Omg seriously u lucky duck I am so envious

[@angiewinchester3384]

If you got paid AND didn't actually show up in this garbage dumpsterfire then I call that a win.

[@ridashahzad9644]

I did not need to be reminded that I had watched this show purely because of Sarah Shahi (who plays the main character) and that I ended up hating her character so much to the point of wanting to pull my hair out...And oh God, that season finale...

[@mae_flower2092]

Rumor has it if you watch Amanda’s Fifty shades, Twilight fanfics, romance novel, three six five, and this video back to back, you qualify to be licensed as a clinical psychologist

[@GreatBooker]

I keep thinking “it can’t get any worse” and then seeing how much of the video is left. Oh my

[@blairmcbride5437]

She is a horrible woman saying she loves her husband while constantly fantasizing about being nailed by another man until she actually decides to get nailed.

[@nonoticarly8778]

I'm used to her being Sameen Shaw and the Australian dude being from a cheesy movie (Falling Inn Love) so watching these characters, who are their total opposites, is jarring

[@WolfLykaios]

As sad as it is, this type of cheating is all too common and the setting is quite realistic. This from someone whose mother's side of the family does this shit all of the time. There is this rumor in the family, that three of my aunts all had sex with the same man and he got two of them pregnant. In all honesty, it is probably true.

[@imsadlol4528]

i’d love a show about your aunts

[@victoriashevlin8587]

So... 23 and me/Ancestry kits for family members Christmas presents?

[@WolfLykaios]

@@victoriashevlin8587 First, I would go broke because I have like 30+ family members, but second... The amount of unprotected sex those 30+ family members have... There would be so many half-siblings, I'm not sure any of them actually want to know the truth.

[@WalkmanWillWalkAllOverYou]

@@imsadlol4528 It would make a great "Always Sunny"-Style Sitcom.

[@deathnotelover11]

Why is cheating so romanticize in media? I just don't get it. Trying to paint its empowering to cheat. Seriously what the hell? I was going to have this play in the background while I clean my house but now I don't even want to.

[@angiewinchester3384]

This show is just more proof that women can be abusive in a relationship too. Honestly, Brad and Billie deserve each other.

[@amandaford8622]

Never seen the show, but I listened to Amanda’s review thinking “everyone in this show are bunch of a**holes.”

[@justcallmeteacup4711]

Dude lmaoo when you played that clip of Brad throwing that glass I was cackling so hard 💀💀 It's just so cliché, right down to the leather jacket. Not gonna lie, I could see myself watching this 😅 Partially hate watch, partially for the absurd drama. This video is so entertaining though I feel like I don't have to

[@t.r.s.5129]

She can love Cooper in the sense that he makes her feel safe. However, if she never properly dealt with her breakup feelings for Brad, then chances are she would have wanted to stay with Brad and eventually marry Brad and that in her mind she settled for the second best option. They need couple therapy.

[@runningcommentary2125]

Sarah Shahi is actually descended from the Qajar dynasty, a group of Turkic tribal origin who ruled Iran prior to the Pahlavi dynasty, who were overthrown and replaced by the Islamic Republic. The Qajars were... not really all that great at running Iran, which is why Sarah Shahi acts in crap like this instead of living in a palace attended by a small army of servants.

[@Xehanort10]

1:23 If it's constant sex scenes it'll surely attract the CW crowd who seem to want every episode of every show they watch to be a half hour long sex scene.

[@RodrickMarsMoon]

Aaand they'd still complain that it wouldn't have erotic moments enough.

[@cathym1365]

Ewfhwwht this is waaaay too true. Even on the now-jokey Legends of Tomorrow there's like a bom chicka wow wow scene every two episodes (but I think it's more of a joke) lol

[@Xehanort10]

@@cathym1365 CW viewers don't seem to want good characters, story, acting, atmosphere and the like. All they care about is fantasising about banging the characters.

[@sleepysera]

@@Xehanort10 Nothing wrong with fantasizing. The annoying part is that they want to see it happen all the time in the actual shows. Like, can't they just dream about it themselves?

[@thegoodwitchlissa]

lol

[@beccangavin]

The man names are "Brad" and "Cooper"?

[@ABisdoingjustfine]

Having watched the whole video, i can confirm that this show has nothing to with the book. In the novel, BB never contemplated cheating on Cooper, and Sasha is a pretty good friend.

[@willr.1495]

Seems like Netflix is following the age old motto. “When in doubt, mass produce soft core porn.” -Sun Tzu

[@nataliebateman1151]

Amanda: This Netflix show is worse than 50 Shades of Grey Me: Aw shit, here we go again

[@mercedesgazda1635]

i’m moving into my dorm on sunday so i’m glad you posted to calm me down/make me laugh :)

[@isabelledavis3078]

Good luck! 🍀

[@AmandaTheJedi]

Good luck!

[@imm42]

Good luck and have fun! :D

[@jones3887]

Good luck!

[@Starkid_hanners]

Good luck!!

[@lupitavalenzuela6206]

I wish I had a loyal and loving husband. I love and crave stability. These series fuels the fantasy of the bad boy. Not all women like bad boys.

[@Commy01]

Maybe it's because I have been in a similar situation to Cooper (no journal, just being told that past partners did thing better and were more exciting, then being told I was doing it wrong when trying to adjust), but I feel like he is 100% in the right and Billie deserved all the bad things that come her way.