This new exotic auto rifle is REALLY good - Choir of One

[@GeremyG]

Finally, Bungie legalized the shotgun Ammit.

[@JGSH13]

I feel like that was the inspiration for this.

[@spencer1342]

I was just remembering the craftening this weekend😂

[@NotReal-187]

@@JGSH13the craftening will go down as one of the most productive glitches to ever exist in Destiny

[@PhoenixPalmer88]

I genuinely wonder if The Craftening inspired this thing.

[@bliss5297]

@@PhoenixPalmer88 maybe it did. but we do have confirmation that the craftening inspired the ergo sum rolls

[@aaronhenderson670]

look at us, we're the wyvern now

[@Breadlootgoblin]

The vex are collectively shitting themselves at the idea of us getting one of their most BS weapons

[@deathblock901]

We were first a sniper vandal, then a hive knight, now a wyvern

[@fuzzy3383]

@@deathblock901we’re also a acolyte, and a dreg.

[@ThisIsEssKah]

Like bugsnax; always have been.

[@ethanalexander2109]

Wait which one the acolyte one?

[@sombrashadow0013]

By my accounts and after lots of testing, Choir of One does indeed fuck

[@CobraChicken97]

I actually laughed out loud at this comment

[@ImKevinDurant]

Saw Aztecross do over 3 mil damage in 1 phase on the ogre boss from Grasp. When we unlock onslaught for it this thing might break the game.

[@thereisnowayyouareforreal5156]

​@ry4x223 for this episode, it definitely is meta. Expanding abyss+ easy of use is insane. someone's going to figure out a ridiculous way to keep your mag up and the gun will melt bosses like nothing in a 3/6 man scenario

[@reggielacey2235]

No it doesn't

[@kaijugeddon9238]

"heard alot of Gyrfalcon's hunters wanting to try this out" yo he's talking about me! I didn't know Datto was living inside of my walls

[@too_official6194]

Briarbind warlocks 👏🏿

[@azo8999]

Oh my precious Buried Bloodline, I love you, I still do. But now it’s time for my Choir to sing the songs of Wyverns.

[@limpyleg1570]

hey man, don't bury the bloodline just yet. we all know this beauty of a new weapon will get nerfed into oblivion soon. its unfortunate but its true

[@donogoodatgames]

I love Buried Bloodline as well, but weapons that are so similar to enemies weapons will always be something I really love using 👍

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

@@limpyleg1570 Honestly I see it taking a hit mostly in reserves. Unless the damage is bugged, I'm really hoping they keep the damage output. We need another good exotic that's serviceable in higher end content and also relatively easy to acquire so I hope this stays as potent as it is.

[@karlos1008]

I’ve run warlords like 20 times and still hasn’t dropped. Just don’t have time to do the same shit over and over for a single weapon. It looks and sounds so good though

[@headlessteddi6207]

Me: Uses Choir of One until I finally get Buried Bloodline… 😢

[@stevenkhan4203]

Pro-Tip: As Aztecross showed, Divinity turns the hipfire damage up by a huge amount, since every hipfire shot is now landing as a crit. He got above 3mil damage on the Grasp Ogre that way. So Div+Hipfire shooting is definitely a viable damage strat. Not the best, obviously, but good enough to be very solid.

[@bigdumpfarts]

For now

[@W.R.L.D.W]

I was gonna say this but I was confused about how just div alone could double its dps isn’t it just a 15% damage increase?

[@Bottt08]

@@W.R.L.D.W The Div cage itself allows the fan out pattern of the Wyvern shot to all hit crits on the cage itself, compared to the fan shot normally missing a lot of headshots on a boss

[@z--r0]

This gun seems to deal massive damage with Divinity's bubble when hip-firing, it's near or more than double the damage.

[@DeeboComing]

I was wondering how Cross got that damage number that he did. I'm sure Bungie is gonna nerf that 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@boolaidman471]

@@DeeboComingidk why bungie has to nerf anything in the first place, they nerfed still hunt to make it more accessible for other classes even though artifact mods already made whisper extremely comparable to pre nerf still hunt, they got to keep as many options as possible to keep this game fun it’s of ruining it cuz a certain gun is really good, hope they don’t nerf the choir one method

[@saladgaming4339]

I'm not surprised, div jank my beloved

[@gills10975]

@@boolaidman471 whisper was not even remotely close to pre nerf still hunt

[@stephensylvarwolf7940]

Maybe it's like Witherhoard and Malfeasance

[@Theology.101]

Im hype for a Special Void Xenophage

[@melm4733]

u mean pp gun xenophage?

[@Shoegaze-]

Xeno is much better but you know that

[@thecanadiankiwibirb4512]

The powercreep on Trace rifles is insane... First rocket sidearms, now this, Lol

[@jonathancotter7429]

if they make a rocket sidearm with shoot to loot, traces are cooked

[@realnoble676]

The problem with traces right now after all the buffs is it’s ammo economy. They do okay damage when used like a primary but you just use up so much ammo killing one enemy because of how traces work🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Bob-mm6hq]

​@@realnoble676it's not so bad if you just quickly tap the trigger over and over.... But it's not a very fun play style. I want to like trace rifles but I always just switch off of them.

[@boltstriker7736]

Weird part is that rapid fire scout rifles fire at 260 rounds per minute and automatic making a classification attempt for this gun even more weird

[@jimmcmeen761]

I feel ya. Doesn’t seem like an auto rifle to me

[@amcorgi2630]

looks like a fusion, fires slower than some scouts, burns through the mag faster than a shotgun in hipfire. I think auto fits best given the hipfire would just feel out of place on a scout.

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

@@amcorgi2630 Bungie: *releases an exotic scout with a grenade launcher hip fire* Which come to think of it the Symmetry is kind of like that though it's an alt fire.

[@Atypical_Typo]

Same here, I find myself tapping the trigger instead of full auto, but that messes the RoF. makes me wish this was a special scout insteaf.

[@seankeaner7402]

*Waves hand mysteriously* Bungie, the auto rifle you are looking for is not over performing.

[@Screeno1993]

Have fun while you can the hipfire mode is so gomna get nerfed lol

[@baldalicious]

Yeah, if I could only get one. That boss fight glitch is by far the most lethal enemy I encountered in Acts 1, 2. 3.

[@GhostChild808]

I gave up trying to do this part since I got no friends to help me with. Not even my own clan is online to help me. I done everything solo up to this point. And every time I get its health down to 1/3, it just traps me in a box and have no idea how to do this part. 😂

[@thegymteachersgrandma]

Briarbinds and the artefact mod with the more dmg to weakend enemies part stacks pretty nice too

[@alexA.7529]

Always looking for an excuse to use Briarbinds

[@JoshThompson25]

Battle harmony

[@lithsgamecorner7108]

One thing to note is since onslaught does grant a reload bonus as well, it does help mitigate Choir's lower reload speed, so when we unlock mag options, that mixed with say, alloy mag with be a great pair up

[@schizohopper]

as soon as this gun hit my inventory, i knew it would never come off in my void/strand prismatic hunter build. i’m running it with Breachlight, grapple, a bait&switch Scintillation, and the facet that gives me destabilizing rounds and unraveling rounds on grenade/melee kills. one grapple kill and i have 10 seconds of both alternative damage types, + the artifact mods to reload my autos, and damage resist, as well as the saint’s weapon mod that overflows my mag on melee hits. shit goes crazy

[@dredgensolis]

I have a similar build but with buried Bloodline. How do you get around the more limited healing without ol BB, beyond just playing safer?

[@schizohopper]

@@dredgensolis whatever the leg mod is that gives you health on orb pickup, plus grenade & melee kills generating orbs. grappling into an enemy = health

[@CaliVsAk]

Dattos immune system got Pete Parsoned

[@DuskTheBard]

"You're going to hipfire, just from instinct." I rarely ever hipfire. It's easier for my hand to hit both mouse buttons at once, it lessens and sometimes (if im lucky) eliminates arthritis pain for me. The hipfire on this gun looks fun, though! I think I'll be holding onto my one, my only, Monte Carlo.

[@Gkowi]

Special variants of historically primary weapon classes gotta be my favorite gender

[@RamenSir77]

finally, my opinion of choir of one has arrived

[@willjamda]

A div will give the hip mode the precision multiplier of the ads version

[@penlandsux1323]

I'm just glad we get a full set of catalysts that are competitive choices. Whisper feels like its a toss-up between Mulligan and Field Prep, Outbreak is by and large Rewind Rounds or occasionally Outlaw, Dead Messenger has a "safe" choice with Demolitionist, DMT and Revision Zero have a handful of notable perks but a lot of bloat like Under Pressure, Shoot to Loot, etc. Each of Choir's perks are something I would actively seek out on a different weapon.

[@snottytoe6957]

Rapid hit on outbreak is the bigger contender over outlaw, though rewind is way better still.

[@LeBron_Games]

the moment i picked this thing up it became my favorite weapon in the whole game. its SO much fun AND is really useful

[@spengebabswagpants6768]

The worst thing about this gun is that I have to swap out aberrant action for it😢

[@Rydoge7]

The fact this video came out nearly the same time as FalloutPlay’s “is this weapon good” video came out is perfect timing.

[@annythehumanitarian3483]

The catalyst should have been that you get to do a divebomb aoe attack that boops. Payback to the wyverns is one step closer.

[@denny8422]

after I got it I ran straight at the next wyvern I saw, eyes aflame

[@whaleborne1308]

Honestly, this thing is pretty balanced. Obviously it is strong, but I don't feel like it's that insane either. Now though, 4th Horseman AND Lord of Wolves NEED buffs to become either better or on par with this thing (since they're different elements which helps). They've both kind of been on the side for a while, LoW more so than Horseman though.

[@nyancat7511]

Didn't they say this was the "biggest exotic mission yet"?

[@EnigmacTheFirst]

Yup. And that they couldn't have done it without the episodic model.

[@Arctis326]

There’s 3 version of this. That itself is more than the usual exotic mission

[@nyancat7511]

​@Arctis326 true, I forgot there was going to be variants of it

[@pugwash1]

@@Arctis326fr?

[@Arctis326]

@@pugwash1 yeah, how big the difference is yet to be seen. But seeing how good the maps of battlegrounds are, the variants could be that much different from each other

[@windwalker3081]

Now I want a special ammo machine gun, bow and smg

[@gommyboi380]

Ive wanted a good light special weapon to pair with a kinetic for prismatic when using facet of solitude, and I’m really excited i don’t need to use Erianas vow!

[@cee_ves]

“behold! the wyvern weapon!” “bungie this is the second exotic mission you’ve presented the wyvern weapon”

[@AwashimaSeriLieutenant]

I enjoyed doing the exotic quest and the gun is fun!

[@brigasm]

Almost feel like they need to start making other ammo types for special weapons like this kind of like TFD. Where a weapon like this can be used as primary and ammo isn’t as scares

[@carbombenthusiast8474]

This thing cooks pretty nicely on a Nezarec Strand Warlock using Weavers Trance, Mataidoxia is also probably a nice choice just for suspending a specific target and laying in.

[@sicknashty3837]

Now i am become chicken, destroyer of guardians.

[@bmoakakamina8314]

Now we're finally able to fairly 1v1 wyverns now

[@nnadine.x6751]

These damage tests were really good and easy to understand, thanks for doing that

[@Toxxicqt]

wanted to point out that you have to shoot an ad before EACH reload of merciless to proc impetus as well as the fact that it has a limited duration (that ran out the moment you started damaging). this means you did not have the 50% buff at all during the entire duration of the damage phase, which if you did have, would put merciless at around 1.5m instead.

[@Zap12101]

Oh how the tables have turned my lovely wyvern friends

[@hampter6207]

Reminds me of vex mythoclast by how we straight up use the enemies weapons

[@ahawkone8850]

Haven't had a ton of time to mess with it either, but so far I like it. I am pleasantly surprised at how good it is. Feels on par with Buried Bloodline and Rocket Sidearms in terms of it's overall power level. I'm probably going to pick up subsistence for it later on.

[@andredevarie1]

You said it's like Cerberus mixed with Graviton but I feel it's more like Cerberus with Bloodline

[@connerhastings7006]

My titan with war rig going feral right now

[@pacificareigns]

yes, YES. it's time for chicken revenge.

[@tonyhamilton7785]

Looks like an Auto Rifle for a Titan. It has a Titan look to it

[@DustiestBoar734]

Craftening gave us prismatic. Craftening gave us shotgun auto. craftening was the best thing ever for the game

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

If the trigger for the elemental explosion + radiolaria pool is anything like the origin trait version that means it procs on every rapid kill on red bars, otherwise it procs on every kill on tougher enemies. Kills from the explosion also count towards it's own activation (unsure if the pool does) which can create multiple explosions. This paired with any of it's catalyst perks is going to be wild. Subsistence keeping it topped off (I tried without the artifact mod and can confirm you don't have to reload), Destabilizing rounds that should work with the radiolaria explosion for insane explosive add clear, Onslaught should be able to go x3 between your hipfire or the radiolaria explosion. Not to mention that explosion seems to be way more potent than the origin trait (like Cursed Thrall on Necrochasm (exotic)). I thought I would never replace my Buried Bloodline as my go-to exotic void special but I'm slowly seeing this taking that spot. What an amazing weapon.

[@_final_warning_]

Wyvern gun + buried bloodline = godgun

[@TwiceBubaigawara-dl5ln]

I’m gonna make a prismatic stasis void build that uses Moth keepers to do damage to finish them off with this exotic.

[@wesleyward5901]

Honestly the only downside to it is that it vacuums up ammo so damn quickly. Other than that, it's a really fun weapon.

[@SmallButAwesome99]

I feel like an easier way to balance special primary weapons ammo would be to make a third ammo type. It's probably less fun as a gameplay loop going back to "looking for primary bricks" but it could help make new types of weapons and tune current weapons in a way. Primary weapons - unlimited ammo Primary Special weapons - new ammo Special weapons - special bricks Heavy weapons - heavy bricks Then put trace rifles in this new category and we're golden for a new type of era of weaponry

[@OtherL]

My opinion. Has arrived, and I didn't know I wanted to be a chicken

[@Lucien135]

The choir of one, the choir of two, the choir of manyyyyyyyyy.

[@DetTigers1094]

To be honest, Will Choir of One be "Meta" post Act 3 heading into the next season/episode and beyond? Maybe, Maybe Not. It may be meta now with the AR Mods in the Artifiact for Act 3 of Echoes, but clearly and in all honesty, I would not be too concerned with this weapon being a Meta Based weapon post Act 3 of Echoes, going into Act 1 of Episode II. The weapon as itself at base level, with no catalyst, or special mods equipped, or buffs/nerfs needed can shred, but the main con for a Base Level Choir of One is AMMO ECONOMY. The max number of Ammo Reserves for the Choir of One with 25 in the mag, and 185 in reserves upon landing at a destination, is 210, but after picking up a special ammo brick, the reserves can go up to 250 without Void Reserves Mod equipped, and 278 with Void Reserves Mod equipped, so at Base Level, Choir of Ones total ammo economy as mentioned is 210, but without Void Reserves equipped, it increases to 275, but with Void Reserves Mod on, that increases to the max of 303. So If I'm using this weapon, when creating a build for this weapon right now as is, I'm Popping on a Void Reserves Mod to increase the number of reserves, and a Void Loader or 2 to increase the reload speeds until the Onslaught Cataylst comes knocking. So Overall, is this a weapon to consider giving it a try? Yes, but will you use it all the time? It Depends on player preference.

[@machinesnow]

Can confirm gyrfalcons is euphoric with choir

[@fuzzy3383]

Hmmmm

[@wcsoblake85]

I have always loved exotic auto rifles. Sweet business has always been my favorite, and I always used it. It worked with my gameplay style.

[@WesternXC]

Sadly, it’s a 360 auto so by next week no one will be using this gun.

[@nnadine.x6751]

Void builds are going to be so fun

[@generalnawaki]

The only problem I have with it, is deciding what to use in my primary slot.

[@NunyaBidness590]

We all know they will Nerf it into the ground. They let new weapons start strong for hype, then they over Nerf.

[@bradgremillion9996]

Exactly it’s all orchestrated. They purposely overpower new weapons so there player count goes up, then they wait till they have a barrage of complaints, nerf the gun, then people forget about it and the next weapons comes up it’s quite sad 💀

[@fabiomariosa]

You just described the last 7 years of this game's lifespan

[@fintiniganlucille5547]

Running this with fixed odds and an anti barrier primary in GMS is so much fun

[@toastthevideomaker9331]

Genuinely so happy i can now inflict the same horror and mental trauma i get whenever a Wyvern enters my line of sight upon the EDZ Dreg now!

[@Geechi_]

Onslaught seems like a good choice to strengthen the primary fire mode since the wyvern shots cook regardless

[@jimmcmeen761]

Onslaught catalyst is going to crank

[@ネリネ-c9m]

I think you missed 4 hipfire Choir of One shot at 9:40 so the potential damage could be higher than 1.4 mil

[@TheVideogamer1004]

You are right. Plus, if the target stayed in one spot, it would help. Did the math for hip where he got his first pit of damage and calculated for a still target at max damage range. Hip has a potential of 4,773,215 damage. Hip phase stopped basically at having 35 rounds left but he had 30 left because 5 hit immune so counting it as 215 rounds of damage. His ads potential if it was all crits and looked like it was in max damage range would be 1,262,079

[@PixelleHearts]

For comparison's sake, Aztecross was able to get 3.3mil when running a Div well setup. 1-1.4mil on a regular well setup x 3 wouldn't even touch its damage. Run two of these bad boys and you got 6.6mil

[@jacob-2271]

Bungie realised the ammo reserves were 'bugged' and the weapon is actually meant to have a tiny amount of reserve ammo. I wish I was kidding

[@seanrichards9569]

The ‘double primary’ (but not really) issue is what I think will be its ultimate downfall. If it’s an exploding scout/auto and a shotgun, but with less stability than Graviton Lance, then what on earth do you pair it with? Submachine guns? Hand cannons? Bows?? I tried them all this week, nothing felt it added anything, unless it was simply about stopping Champions like Barrier or Unstoppable. So I dunno, as GOOD as it clearly is, its issue is that it doesn’t pair with anything at the moment. So you def nailed that in this video.

[@84m30]

The ammo types have been getting a lot of weird iterations. Traces, rocket sidearms + Forerunner, and this.

[@LycorisLilyP]

Can confirm that gyr armours are a beast with this weapon

[@culturedindividual8846]

6:51 got a gyrfalc galanor cape. use wuthering blade or swarm grenade to proc stylish executioner, hip fire choir, enemy sent to the shadow realm. Repeat Also, with void being so good cause of expanding abyss, choir+edge transit is def a play. And i still havent dps tested on crota, but choir+quickfang is prolly gonna be my go to. Hit around 8.7mil with star eater gathering storm with forth hoursemen+gold tusk

[@drthunder8841]

i ran it with appentence and commemoration in battlegrounds last night with special finisher and special ammo finder and never ran out.

[@Sabre5106]

i don't see any use for this. As a primary, it's alright but ammo reserves are really poor so you need to use a bunch of mod space for generating special bricks, or run "another" primary to create bricks for it. The Wyvern mode gobbles even more ammo that the damage isn't even worth it. Like 2 full mags to take down champs and boss-level enemies is atrocious. It's your exotic slot and in the energy slot, which is in super high demand with exotic energy primaries and specials like Indebted Kindness & Still Hunt. If this thing was a primary weapon it would be much better. It's a niche gun, pretty much Void Fourth Horseman but slower at further range.

[@JoshThompson25]

It excels for gyrfalcon hunter. You can melt champs much faster than he was doing in this vid. Its a gun you build around. Invis, smoke to weaken or nade with weakening fragment, hipfire = champ dead

[@Sabre5106]

@@JoshThompson25 I've tried it with Destabilising Rounds, it didn't add much to the gun

[@JoshThompson25]

@@Sabre5106 huh? Doesn't add much to the gun? More damage, more add clear, more invis on hunter, what do you mean doesn't add much to the gun. Now I would agree somewhat when it comes to titan and warlock since they can't keep the volatile rounds active as easy and as much as a hunter can but on Hunter it adds ALOT my friend, thats why i said it excels on Hunter just like buried bloodline and still hunt do. Buried Bloodline is good on warlock as well but gyrfalcons turns void weapons up several notches when it comes to being used on hunter

[@Sabre5106]

@@JoshThompson25 No it doesn't add much to the gun in I've literally tried it and it doesn't change the TTK, the bullets already hit for enough that the volatile never gets a chance to explode

[@JoshThompson25]

@@Sabre5106 in GM and master content it most certainly does add to it, but to each their own

[@ismaelmatos5141]

Now im curious and haven’t tested myself or seen anything does choir of one get buffed by hazardous propulsion, at least hip fire wise?

[@tobiasneethling8871]

i was just going through it on my titan (2nd time) and i had almost killed the final boss but on one of the plates once i finished the count it didn't create a pyramid to destory to damage the boss and i had to restart

[@tysonkrunek4132]

Actium war rig says hi

[@petrlazar5240]

Finally some good stuff for my void Hunter.

[@drakoramore9]

Cool, so I'll never use it unless it is a damage option, just like trace rifles.

[@Xeno_3401]

1:13 but rather "when is this thing going to be nerfed?"

[@jordanreavis8163]

I would say if you're running targeted autoloader subsistence is a bit wasted this episode. Destabilizing rounds sounds more promising

[@HeIIfiree]

Ok, help me out guys, got myself the cat, did all 3 secret chests in the same run but I only have subsistence. Am I missing something?

[@AnthonyWiener69]

The other catalysts (Onslaught, Destabilizing Rounds) won’t be available this week. Each week we will get a new catalyst to unlock. Week 2 = Destabilizing Rounds; Week 3 = Onslaught. You get intrinsic traits (Barrel, Magazine, Stock) from the quests you get from Banshee in the Tower.

[@vforvontol]

shout out to primaries with special ammo gotta be my favorite gender

[@RC-Sev]

6:43 fun fact! It is NOT good with a volatile build. Had one on demand (cuz I am a Hunter) and immediately tested it out (as you do when a new exotic void weapon drops) and while in nearly every other case volatile adds to the weapon, things die before you can even apply the volatile. It just does too much damage. You'll be lucky to have it active for one or two splosions before they're dead, just not a good use of buildcrafting resources. Currently using it more for a Warden's Law + Lucky Pants niche

[@artes9222]

In what content did you try it?

[@RC-Sev]

@@artes9222 Core testing in VoG opener (it is the perfect variety and difficulty for most content stress testing), then a strike and then a legend lost sector. VoG - little overkill, Strike - total overkill, legend lost sector - decent but not not better than builds it competes with like lucky pants or ignition spam. There's no doubt it's really good, but not with volatile. just doesn't add enough for the effort to set it up

[@JoshThompson25]

what were you playing, strikes? Gyrfalcon hunter makes the best use of this weapon. Go do a gm it is very good.

[@iamboringvideos6832]

1 problem, it aint solar, and thats my problem.

[@wintereclipse3263]

You can definitely hit WAY higher with the hip fire. Not certain if youtube would delete my comment if I said the name so another youtuber did testing and the only major change was adding div. Div barely helped with the aim down and since it can't hit crits while hip firing I'm going to assume that it was only getting 15% more damage. However in his tests it seemed that hitting an enemy point blank (About 6 meters) deals extra damage as the shots don't split and they get bonus damage resulting in about double the damage.

[@Soda_Drunka]

Turning from Goblins and Hobbys with the Vex to now Wyverns with this, whats next? A heavy grenade launcher that allows us to use the Hydra's shots?

[@the_filthy_macgyver]

My opinion of this new weapon has arrived!

[@gunmaster260]

I find it interesting when my opinion of something differs from Datto's. I played with Choir in Normal and Legend/Expert difficulty activities and was unimpressed. The only thing that would have made me interested in it, is if one of the catalysts was Discord. If you pair it with all the artifact mods that apply, it's alright; but this thing is gonna go rot in my vault.

[@Jackson-xr5dg]

I feel like as of now you really need to run some type of reload perk with it.

[@daneger3210]

Buff trace rifles or make primary ammo

[@kidneystone1345]

special ammo is the new pvp ban

[@jonwoodall881]

The choir of one, the choir of two, the choir of manyyyyyyyyy

[@ShadowNemesis575]

So its a good DPS/champbuster option but its by no means the next op exotic that everyone will be running. I honestly feel like quicksilver walked so pseudo primary weapons could run. I mean legendary trace rifles live and die by artifact buffs in pve and despite how quickly they can melt in pvp they barely get mentioned, then we got revision zero which I think still doesn't get enough use for how versatile it is not to mention cool, and special sidearms and waveframe grenade launchers need no introduction. Even after the nerfs quicksilver is honestly a good comparison for this thing and thats wild to think about. It honestly makes me wonder if stuff like it and revision will ever get another pass (I like that they are actual primary weapons and thinking about it this REALLY started with devils ruin..... catalyst when?) to make them a bit more appealing to people who aren't already fans without power creeping the special weapons they incorporate.

[@ShadowNemesis575]

I feel like this is also a good time to open up conversation on how useless legendary old special weapons feel in endgame champion content. Like.... who is actively using legendary snipers for anti barrier outside of SUPER niche cases like the DSC/onslaught sniper with discord and even that only got conversation for like 5mins tops? I'm glad bungie is in their bag with new and cool as hell weapon types but i mean come on, shotguns and fusions are also solved and people go for the same usual suspect roles on them that are one two punch and controlled burst trench barrel only getting mentioned on "the NUT cannon" trademark Datto Industries. I like feeling powerful but I like build diversity just a little bit more lol.

[@twistedgale]

Welcome back bugged ammit

[@Darknight_26]

As I’ve seen the dps skyrockets with armamentarium and a div. I’ve seen numbers in the area of 3 mill in grasp.

[@jlrebor2626]

for me its a utility weapon that excels at cleaning but can do some very respectable damage to bigger targets, that being said in debt kindness exist, while no where close to the damage to bigger targets, it can run voltshot to have that jolt help with anything, and i mean anything, wana clear more ads? sure. wana do more damage to a yellow? sure thing, wana buff your heavy? call it done, it has the versatility but its legendary, sure it doesnt quite get to choir level, but you can run it with outbreak, apply jolt, go to town with outbreak, and while i dont think its gona got to the 1m mark, its gona be close with a much better ammo efficiency

[@Caydeson-1]

How long do you think it will take for us to get a special ammo version of all the other primaries? We've got a hand cannon, side arm, and now an auto rifle

[@Astrapionte]

Choir is what lord if wolves wishes it was!!!

[@SivaExperiment]

When I was using this it felt weird in a way that I really liked. Though it feels like it doesn’t do much at the same time

[@hjw2029]

I'd use this with Gyrfalcon, but the fact that it's Destabilising Rounds instead of Repulser Brace kills it for me. So I'll stick with Manticor, Recluse and Hollow Denial