This New Speedrunning Method is Controversial

[@baylenlucas8923]

"He left is console on for ten days and ten nights and got a record" This sounds like a biblical story. This could be the basis for N64 Easter or N64 Hanukkah.

[@keiharris332]

Or lent? You know, go hog wild on "fat Tuesday" like Speedrun all your favorite games then for 10 days everyone cannot Speedrun games they have Speedrun before. Cool marathon idea

[@bojack99]

We should have the 10 days of goldeneye every year to praise and celebrate this miracle

[@glorbojibbins2485]

Amazing stuff lol

[@kevingollner552]

"And on the 10th day we play Train"

[@bojack99]

@kevingollner552 yeah all sat around a fire with goose 🥲

[@slowfreq]

Back when I would speedrun Tony Hawk's Underground 2 on the Gamecube, I noticed after a while that I'd have to reset the console every few hours because the game would get laggier and laggier the longer I left the console running. Maybe I should have kept going.

[@GamerFolklore]

Interesting. These things are so little explored! Who knows what game breaking nonsense might have come from it.

[@remythezen5174]

This rabbit hole is definitely getting deep af 😂 Got me questioning my whole gaming abilities back in the day. Something similar would happen in Contra 3 on SNES. Something to do with the flamethrower power-up being able to cause 'slow motion' so you could dodge. Idk. 💀

[@Pabmyster]

My theory is that there is a very slow memory leak/something that isn't being garbage collected or variables not being overwritten after scene changes or every iteration of something happening in game. Software, especially games, can be very complex in these aspects with so many moving parts and game states being loaded into and out of memory. If we can figure out exactly which actions to repeat in order to recreate these scenarios, similar to the skybox loading, then it can for sure be taken advantage of

[@dtatge1]

A memory leak would cause it to lag less?

[@1stCallipostle]

​@@dtatge1If you managed to build uo enough garbage that other things break, and then somehow clear out the garbage, that would be less to load

[@papahusky1263]

Man, I love all of your fireside stuff. Been watching for years. No pressure to post, but love when you do. you're the best, dude.

[@GamerFolklore]

I'm glad people are enjoying this fireside this far. My goal is to post weekly firesides this fall/winter, maybe even more frequently.

[@papahusky1263]

@GamerFolklore no worries. You could post these once a year and I'd still be here. Do what you can for the Algo, but you're one of the absolute cornerstones of 007 and n64 speedrun content.

[@dariusus9870]

Couldn't agree more!

[@matt0198922]

@@GamerFolklore Yesssss

[@Thenonsocial]

You need a more comfortable chair and maybe a whisky and cigar and/or pipe.

[@borgeman]

This was discovered in mario kart 64 years ago - in that game leaving the console on like this messes with the game timer's accuracy, and so it was determined it was an exploit and not allowed. Ultimately, doing this really falls into hardware manipulation, because the game state degrades away from what it's meant to be.

[@ChicDead26]

@RanialsAwesome My boy just expressed himself poorly. It's not uncommon for glitches to appear due to numbers overflowing/underflowing, as well as floats not being made to handle huge numbers. I'm not familiar anough with the MK64 thing, just aware of it as well.

[@tiagotiagot]

So in short, this just isn't a glitchless run...

[@GamerFolklore]

Yeah, the thing in Mario Kart 64 is that it directly affects the timer. I meant to mention that in here. Whereas in GoldenEye, it doesn't seem to directly affect the timer, so it's slightly different and less "broken" in GoldenEye.

[@neoqwerty]

@RanialsAwesome When your game stops reading sound, that's literally something getting corrupted.

[@jasonslade6259]

@@neoqwerty The real question is - Is this the hardware's fault or is it the software's fault? If its the software's fault (a memory leak or integer overflow, etc.) then maybe it could be allowed because exploiting bugs in the code is a normal thing speedrunners do all the time. If this is the hardware's fault, (overheating, magnetic interference, problems in the console's firmware, etc.) then it probably shouldn't be allowed because it probably is damaging the console, isn't a part of 'the game' itself, and would be difficult to reproduce to begin with.

[@nicholasbermel9638]

the difference in audio quality v camera quality is astounding. lol

[@koobecay]

i've never seen this youtuber but i think his mic is good, just the settings aren't right or he bought an asmr mic

[@ItsPyrus]

​@@koobecayasmr mic lmao. It's a yeti, just the single most common mic ever

[@TheTuttle99]

​@@koobecay????????

[@user-lq9mw1sb8d]

Needs a low pass, maybe a de esser.

[@ItsPyrus]

@@user-lq9mw1sb8d and that's so easy to do in logitech g-hub. they even have a podcaster preset lol

[@ayrtonsenna1989luke]

No way. Just a few hours ago i was watching your old fire side stories hoping you would do one soon and here it is within hours. Manifestation works!!

[@TheDrapetomanic]

It just keeps happening!

[@Shredddddy]

I went back and dove deep into goose vids and added all his fireside vids to my cozy night time playlist. Thank God we got a new one to add to the list boys. Thank you GOOSE 🪿

[@vasaline_slime_gaming98]

same here man I was watching the darklight83 one haha

[@Purriah]

Bro he filmed the whole video and pressed upload before the idea entered your brain.

[@yikes6969]

Looking at your watch history says that's a lie

[@vasaline_slime_gaming98]

this phenomenon was very prevalent in Driver 2 on the original Playstation, Driver 2 would slow down and cars would fall through the ground after a long play session when the playstation was on for long periods of time

[@a.m.8410]

I’m trans and gay - feel so good about this cumment now you f**king CHUD?????

[@AdaptiveApeHybrid]

Holy 💩 I remember that now

[@Wheelman2004]

Driver 2 is still one of the buggiest, jankiest, yet most fun games I played when I was a kid. For what I'm sure are various other reasons, I remember cars falling through the ground being a frequent occurence.

[@thepunisherxxx6804]

I get why you wouldn't want to encourage people to leave their console on and go through this multi-day thing for the world record, but ultimately players make that choice themselves, and I think it would be a shame if this record was removed. Its such an interesting speed running story. Being the first to do something new should be rewarded. Doing new things is incredibly difficult.

[@6dollerbill]

There needs to be a seperate category for runs involving this method. If that new thing discovered is just leaving the console on for longer than it should be on, we're telling players "you want a record? Youll need to leave your console on for days before you can even try and compete" and that is something that kills excitement for a run and a community. Its the same reason why spongebob bfbb is a dead speedgame with a singular active runner, you need like just the right console, not just the right console, but a specific version of that console that can only be verified by opening it up, played on a weirdly specifically dirtied disc, and this sort of minutia KILLS interest in games really quick. Its not approachable, intuitive, or something that actually adds to the quality of the run, it is purely a multi-hour roadblock, stopping runners from getting a good time for reasons outside their own skill. This isnt the runners fault, obviously, but the time cost into this is unhealthy for competition

[@AldoInza]

There are categories that have to be ended. Like the hot plate speed run, you kill hardware and make future allowed runs impossible as you destroy hardware. Other categories mean you waste people's times and lives, so these are glitches that kill the community as people prioritize happiness over speedrunning.

[@powwowken2760]

That's the thing though, you're wrong. When a new trick is found it always, without fail, comes down to embracing the trick no matter how frustrating and time consuming, or just not playing the game/category anymore. So while you say "it's a choice" I disagree, if it's allowed then no, it's not a choice, it's just the way everyone will have to play because that's how speedrunning works.

[@maraxussrafhael]

@@powwowken2760

[@maskettaman1488]

If a technique makes running so unfun or obnoxious that it hurts the category by discouraging current or new runners, then it makes sense to ban it or create a new category for it.

[@zero1343]

On the later point in the video, another thing that I think comes into play is that the more solved and more optimised a run gets, it also usually also gets less interesting to watch from a viewing perspective as well. I think that's an issue that many of the classic speedgames end up having. The OoT any% for example just isn't an entertaining run for most people to watch anymore. Goldeneye I think has ended up in a similar state, where even when there are records set, its still the same run, just hitting more lucky rng. There is only so long any game can last and as the old guard begins to retire, its time will likely come to an end alongside them.

[@Sterlin18]

Facility SA/OOA Strat has drastically changed which makes the level easier as well as faster and yet we havent seen a speed lore on it in over a year now....

[@zero1343]

@@Sterlin18 interesting, ill have to check it out later

[@RookMeAmadeus]

It's a blessing and a curse of high level play in general for most games. You hit a point where there's just a perfectly optimized pattern. Once in a great, GREAT while someone might figure out a new strat, but it's usually just more of the same.

[@Sterlin18]

@@RookMeAmadeus - The overall strat has been refined start to finish - Yeah in the middle its more or less the same but theres little things that are better and the ending has totally changed and will continue to change once others listen about the quick pausing trick - Im not suggesting youre wrong with what youre stating however after 27 years of speedrunning GE it is pretty optimized at this point...

[@fredtaylor9792]

I'm glad you pointed that out. I've been saying this about sports and competition in general for the last 20 years. The Olympics is a perfect example but so is American sports. The athletes get so good, the coaches and owners figure out better and better formulas, they figure out optimum weight and height, gear, etc. There's less mistakes and less risks taken. That's why college and high-school sports are more fun to watch in their own way.

[@ryanlutes9833]

I think the cause of the glitch is important; if it's a hardware fault (crooked cartridge, overheating, etc.) then it shouldn't be allowed, because the console isn't operating properly. If it's in the software, (an integer overflow somewhere, for example) then it's more down to community discretion.

[@stitchfinger7678]

Kinda like how the TTC bug bounty had to be thrown out cuz they determined the console literally got hit with a cosmic ray or something

[@stevenbenson9976]

Yeah I was wondering if this is ram or cpu overheating

[@omegahaxors9-11]

It's like that time a "cosmic ray caused a bitflip" turns out the guy's N64 was just really faulty.

[@CrAzYpotpie]

Get over it

[@Invariel]

@FF8IrvineFan_ Dragon Quest 3's hotplate% has entered the chat.

[@homerhat420]

The goose is loose!

[@Resijew]

The critical part of Ace’s statement for me was “I had several 1:48/1:47 dupes/fails before I had the audio glitch”. I think he would be able to replicate the untied if it was eventually disallowed

[@torgeist.]

Goldeneye never gets boring, thank you for your work, it's so nice getting back to my childhood, where the future looked much brighter. Pls never stop making videos, as long as I live ;-)

[@danielcarlmanpessoal]

You might not get a WR if you leave your console on for 10 days, but if you don't do your dishes for 10 days, you might be able to pull one off. Ask Marc Rutzou.

[@SDFprowler]

Dude, I'm always glad to hear your insights into the game, and very well spoken I must say. Fireside vibe hits just right. Thanks for continuing to make these vids.

[@GamerFolklore]

Always love to see you comment, glad you enjoyed SDF!

[@pinkpools]

I’ve been stricken with an illness over the last few weeks and truly believe binging your back catalog of vids have helped me speedrun out of my affliction so thanks for the comfy vids my friend

[@GamerFolklore]

Hope you feel better soon! And also, I'm hoping to pump out more comfy videos than ever before over the next few months!

[@MahDryBread]

Nice to see the Fireside back! Man I'd love if we had some way to investigate exactly what's going on with those weird play sessions where the game starts behaving differently. If there was some way to plug it into something and see what the code looks like in the moment so we could figure out exactly what's changed and if it genuinely is "running better"

[@insanejughead]

Only just recently started watching your stuff, Goose. I love your extemporaneous style which lacks all of the unnecessary "um's" and "uh's"; as those drive me bonkers. You never outpace yourself, either. Comforting, soothing, yet exciting and so very informative. Thank you, good sir!

[@insomni777]

Glad I found this channel! It's relaxing listening to these stories as I fall asleep.

[@namelessxdread]

Thank you for the continued gaming lore, lettered Goldeneye historian Vince Vaughn

[@garrymullins]

Better hair than Vince Vaughn tho.

[@CoachJohnMcGuirk]

I thought his name was "Bucky Asymptote"

[@radattk3145]

I remember we would say he looks like Brenden Fraiser

[@FreshLikePack]

Been following avidly since the co-op AGDQ run. Thanks for making so many great videos throughout the years. Glad to see the Goose is back!

[@detromaniac]

10:50 Alright, what you want to look into to crack this one is system memory utilization. When those effects cut out, it's probably because something tripped an overflow, or it kicks on some memory saving feature when things get hectic. Like if 10 guards are shooting it decides then to stop playing sounds for half of them, there's some reason it doesn't turn back off, and the condition persists as enabled in memory. Hard to test, but I don't think you'd need to go as far as reading the memory. Just having an idea how much is being used prior to the effect starting, which you'll probably be able to tell from a sudden and sustained drop in usage. From there you can confirm or eliminate that it has anything to do with the memory ceiling, and seeing what that graph looks like when it starts will help you narrow in on what exactly is causing it. What's clear here though is there are some situations where certain memory states are not reinitialized between menu load and stage start. They can either be stuck, locked, or it's a regular oversight on re-initialization. 14:30 Another point is that there are more games than there used to be. It dilutes.

[@Delekhan]

Excellent video! Nice to have a "fireside chat" with ya! Appreciate all you do man... keep up the good (and entertaining) work! We love ya!

[@badleech]

Another great Video. I hope, there will be some more storys from you, at the cozy fireplace for fall and Winter. Looking Forward to it!

[@PicardRiker08]

I will never tire of hearing the force and passion you put into saying the name BAAAaannzzz.

[@generalesdeath5836]

At the very LEAST the 100% record should stand until there is proof that the audio glitch even is an advantage. With a player at perfect ace’s level, I have no hard time believing there wasn’t any advantage at all and he achieved the time fairly in a way that could be done consistently. That said, ALL new untieds deserve extremely close scrutiny, even from the most trusted of runners.

[@cosmicskydragon333]

And if you don't apply scrutiny then that is when top players get lazy and start cheating. It happens far too often.

[@0-Keith-0]

Bond's running speed is directly tied to framerate. Higher framerate = faster run speed compared to the in game timer, this was discovered back during the streets 1:14 era that Karl Jobst covered a long time ago. Anything that causes the N64's CPU / GPU to have to process less information results in an increase in framerate (and train is a very laggy level). At the end of the day, the goldeneye community needs to ask themselves if it's good or bad for the category to require players to keep their hardware turned on for days at a time just in the hopes that it results in a glitched state where certain map/audio data is not loading, just to get a slight framerate increase that might shave off a second. Because that's a great way to kill competition within a category.

[@generalesdeath5836]

@@0-Keith-0 I can see that perspective. It reminds me a bit of the “strategy” that involved pressing down on the circuit board of a naked P2 controller in order to make time pass at the ends of Train and Facility. If we think of it that way, then it’s like “kicking your console in just the right way” as one runner said. But it’s a little more grey only because we are discussing aging hardware here. That’s a complicated reality. What if an older N64 that is starting to decay ends up producing faster times than one better preserved, or vice versa? We are entering a new territory it seems where hardware affecting the results is an unavoidable reality. Is blowing on the cartridge now disqualifying, for example? I can’t get my copy of Majora’s Mask to even run without a few puffs. And I know that even if I had the advantage of a glitched system, that I couldn’t clear Train 00 agent anywhere close to Perfect Ace’s record.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@0-Keith-0 and very long runs tend to have few runners and very few attempts. Like how Baten Kaitos 100% has a WR of over 14 days right now. There are 6 runs in total. If a run would require to keep the machine running for multiple days beforehand, it would make running the game unattractive for many potential runners.

[@CuteSkyler]

Goose is really out here using a 2004 webcam for that extra authenticity.

[@tenacious645]

I'm glad to see Goose still making GE content. I wish he posted more often. I started watching his speedruns around 2014 if i remember correctly. Thanks for 10 years of great entertainment Mr. White. Youll always have my support :)

[@Snaxophone]

Interesting - there is a glitch in San Francisco Rush when the console is left on for like 4-5 hours, you’ll start saving about a second per checkpoint out of nowhere, and the exact cause is unknown. I wonder if these glitches are related.

[@jamesknapp64]

very likely related.

[@tristanfletcher]

A bit of food for thought. I'm not a speedrunner - nor have I ever made any attempts. In roughly 1998 I once accidentally bumped the Goldeneye 64 cartridge whilst playing a heated game with friends in multiplayer. Often this would cause the game to simply freeze and a restart was required but on this particular occasion the game continued to function but without audio. I noticed that with even 4 of us playing rockets there was almost zero lag. I could never replicate this again but its made me think over the years if anyone else had ever tried to use this to their advantage. Would being able to replicate this for the purpose of speedrunning be considered an exploit? As I said, food for thought.

[@Ephicx]

cartridge exploits like this are banned in every game, it can also end up accidentally destroying your game copy.

[@Pokarface7]

There’s many things that are possible to do in other games by tilting the game while playing, but that kind of glitches are banned. Escaping Kokiri Forest early in Zelda is a noticeable example of tilting the cartridge to gain an advantage.

[@GamerFolklore]

I first escaped Kokiri Forest with crooked cartridge. Even got to save outside in Dodongo Cavern. Then I could play a save file from there. It was great times!

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

a classic example of hardware manipulation.

[@inmortal009]

Let's go! Fireside Goose season is here! One of my favorite things about Christmas is watching your videos; I think it's been more than 10 years at this point.

[@chadwolf3840]

I love your whole analogue presentation with an actual tv and set. S-tier production value.

[@TheSkx0liukang]

I will always enjoy these fireside videos. Thanks Goose!!

[@Darkabyss290]

As someone who used to have a very crappy computer and as someone who has dabbled into game development, the game NOT rendering sounds or vfx ABSOLUTELY has an effect on the gameplay and FPS of the game. Take League of Legends for example; turning down all the visuals is the most obvious way to improve FPS. However, turning off sound ALSO boosts the FPS because there's less that has to be rendered or played, this is something I did constantly and it gave me a very noticeable fps increase when playing on a potato.

[@Wourghk]

Considering the reason why sound isn't playing in this case, the application may still be attempting to play the sound, and indeed has played something, but in such a way that it's garbled or inaudible. In other words: the sounds might still be processed and consume runtime resources as normal, even if they're not output correctly, since the program is absolutely still trying to play them. We can't know without a log or some other form of analysis what's happening there.

[@cheekychunkSR]

Turning off music is literally tech in a speedgame of mine, Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over (GBA).

[@pickleman40]

Seems this glitch reduces concurrent audio samples which would improve performance

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I remember that from back in the day. disabling audio improved performance. Getting a sound card improved performance.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@Wourghk It's not uncommon that some level of audio work is done on the CPU. So by not processing audio the resources are freed for working on the graphics.

[@petpolitics]

Goose has a real life n64 filter going on in this video

[@triznathaniel122]

Just wanted to say i really love this channel and the coziness of it. Like comfort food for the mind.

[@bizichyld]

Speedrunning stopped being fun for me around when lookdown was adopted. The ability to continue through these inconvenient strategies is probably one of the things that separates the good from the great.

[@GamerFolklore]

Hey Bizi, I found an epic old thread about when Sam Hughes' HTDTE was featured on Rush Limbaugh. I kinda want to do a fireside of "obscure untold speedrun stories from the 2000's" and might go into that one a bit, lol.

[@imperfectclark]

Wow, Biz 👋 I stopped playing in 2002 primarily due to look-down... People mastering 2.x controls still blows me away.

[@travistreadway3180]

@@imperfectclarkis that the whole staring at the floor while running around to make the game run faster?

[@imperfectclark]

@@travistreadway3180 Yeah, exactly (looking down exploits lazy loading whereby the game won't load certain things if it doesn't have to (because they are out of your viewport), reducing lag. I used to speedrun GE in the stone age 😅

[@Thatguy55595]

@@GamerFolkloreyou should and dude please if you have any other The World Is Not Enough stories I would pay to hear them lol

[@GeneCreemers]

Invited a chick over said we can just vibe and break out some goose to relax and see what happens, little did I know she thought I meant grey goose the vodka so I hope she enjoyed learning some classic speed running lore while we partook in the superior Goose which is Ryan White. Thanks for the content big guy me thinks she will be back for more

[@garretlariviere5599]

Thats hilarious 😂

[@User-1683x2]

Removes her top: "my friends!"

[@GeneCreemers]

@@User-1683x2 lmaooo

[@NIN1]

Omg Coach Teacher 😂

[@GeneCreemers]

Hopefully when/if she returns: “My friends it just KEEPS happening!” Lol a man can dream

[@thegreathadoken6808]

My friends, my friends, gather round for another fireside chat at Goose's winter residence. Bring marshmallows and your favourite blanket.

[@valor992]

My favorite VG story teller. Well done again, Goose.

[@GuyDude-hk8uy]

Back to the (new) fireplace, hell yeah :) Always interesting to listen; even though I've never even played Goldeneye 64, your commentary gets me invested. Amazing how things are still being discovered in this game so many years after its release, especially considering it's something so big that it could lead to rule changes.

[@DaveChurchill]

Goose: Do you feel if Goldeneye was timed to the millisecond that more interested would pick up again? Or does the second improvement requirement for a new WR keep the game more competitive? We see millisecond battles in games like SMB, could the same revive goldeneye?

[@EspireMike]

I believe it would help open up the competition. It could be its own league / category.

[@FelixTheGat]

I've left an N64 for 3 weeks accidentally. I went to California to visit family, and the night before leaving, I was playing Majora's Mask. When I got home, it took me a couple of hours to realize it. I still have the same 64, and it runs perfectly fine.

[@BebopMansion]

I love those cozy fireside talk. My favorite video of yours is you talking about perfect dark mystery with one of the NPC (spooky!) while being cozy next to a fireplace.

[@Wrobles14]

Great to see you back mate I hope you are well, The new setup is great. I wonder what or if any impact the Leaked/cancelled X360LA and the Xbox1-X-S/Switch version had on the N64 Speedrunning community, I thought it might bring new players? Maybe a N64 Mini if it had Goldeneye could shine more light as well. I guess in regards to Ace's run a deep comparrison between it and the old WR maye shed a bit of light, in the broader sense leaving the console on etc or playing certain levels/spawning things is interesting but as long as it's a level playing field and the tech is shared I see no problem and we also have next to no clue if anyone had done this before or similar things, if not I guess it goes down the route of showing hard resets every run for proof. Looking forward to more vids, all the best from the UK ❤

[@NairbNroh]

Been following for a while, but this is the first fireside video of yours I've seen. Your videos have had a cozy quality to them, and this one even more so!

[@warlord1981nl]

Technical specifications say sound channels (average max for N64 games is 16 to 24) take up to 1% CPU time. Turning off sounds definitely can help with performance on the N64. If it is actually half the sound missing, that is an 8 to 12% lesser load on the CPU. Don't know if it should be considered cheating as anyone can turn the sound off but then again... Watching a video where people are constantly staring at the floor with no sound... Like wtf even is that? Personally, I don't think this should be allowed. Then again, I think the looking down is dumb too so what do I know...

[@chainsawplayin]

Speedrunners will do anything to squeeze out 1 extra second, be it walking straight through walls, looking at the ground, backwards, without sound or textures, regardless.

[@neoqwerty]

This is why TAS has a "speed and entertainment tradeoff" tag on most games where, honestly, going the fastest results in something boring to watch. Most RTAs also have an any% no [insert the boring tech/glitch] category for the same reason. Sounds like Rare's shooters might benefit from a category split or three.

[@warlord1981nl]

@@chainsawplayin Why would I accept your record in a game if I can't even recognize the game?

[@chainsawplayin]

@@warlord1981nl Exactly.

[@kingmeers5340]

I’m cozy by the fire

[@richmahogany1]

you desperately need one of those big leather wingback chairs along with a pipe and some brandy for these

[@GamerFolklore]

I used to have a big old rocking chair at the previous fireside. We'll see what I can get set up here as time rolls on...

[@DavidHaselhoff]

Cant wait for more fireside stories, Goose.

[@dan47483]

Goose fireside is some of the best gaming content on YT

[@dariusus9870]

When i saw the fireplace i said to myself "omg he did it, he got it back". For a brief second i was so so happy for you that i had to stop the video to write this. It's so weird. We've never met but through your speedlore series i felt as happy as i was for my real friends when they had a big win. I, platonically, love you Goose and i hope you'll get "it" back sometime.

[@GamerFolklore]

Hopefully, I'll do firesides here for a bit. And then keep moving forward and get an even better fireside setup in the coming years. 🙏🔥

[@dariusus9870]

@@GamerFolklore wish you the best dude ❤️

[@Scotty_AV]

Turning music & sfx "off" in GE is just a volume slider so I'd guess that it is still playing but cannot be heard, and would not affect anything.

[@nipstir6897]

Fascinating video, speed running is awesome, I enjoy watching speed runs!

[@AntalusHighlights]

Man I remember watching you do speed runs late in to the evening, what must have been at least 9 or so years ago. And you are still sporting the sweater. Love that for you! Glad to see you are doing well!

[@jlnj0]

algorithm did me right today, glad to have found your channel.

[@Zultzify]

idk what i expected goose to look like, but i was surprised to see what he looks like. i like this fireside concept, very cozy. highly recommend compiling these when theres enough into 2 hour compilations for sleeping

[@jealousagain783]

Sounds like you’re about to discover his Speedlore channel. It’s a treasure trove of amazing Goose content that’s perfect to fall asleep to.

[@Zultzify]

@@jealousagain783 he has another channel?!? thank you for making me aware

[@jealousagain783]

@@Zultzify I highly recommend starting with episode 8 “Goose’s story” and go from there. The early episodes are a bit rough around the edges, and the quality really hits its stride around season 3. But that episode in particular is something special.

[@-SunGod-]

A fire side Goldeneye chat is very welcome for the fall season

[@2infuzetea778]

Glad to see you back after a few months and with a Goldeneye video.

[@cLeodnine]

I love the fireside chats! They're so chilled! Keep up the awesome work!

[@galileohumpkins8710]

Talk to me Goose! Im here for it

[@EvolGamor]

I never seen your vids but that down to earth spot you got there by the furnace.. beautiful.

[@zkdr6278]

Goose is really good at storytelling. One of the greats on KZbin IMO up there with EmpLemon

[@kurgans]

I'm sorry but this fireside setup reminds me of the hasty fireplace i put down in sims 4 to trigger father christmas and then delete after

[@Annihilation_pi]

Very key topics of discussion. Great vid Goose. Good call with 2.x styles. Also made me think of paper marios shooting star summit trick with letting particles overflow. Where do you draw the line. Growing up i remember summers with full days of goldeneye and sm64 and some days the n64 would feel buttery. We’d always try weird stuff on those days and theyd allways seemed to eek out a little better. (We’d wake up early from playing so late that the n64 would still be warm from the sesh the night before.) Again good stuff man. Ive come back to this vid 3x now for the discussion

[@GamerFolklore]

Interesting that you recall experiences like this from your youth, I think there are a lot of "one off" occurrences people had years ago in console games, which made no sense at the time, but actually kinda make sense with our more advanced breadth of knowledge today.

[@Anzuo]

This is a great video to fall asleep to. Incredibly interesting even for me who isn't into goldeneye. Your voice is very relaxing.

[@xeridea]

It should be quantifiable to check average framerate for the run vs average for similar runs taking the same path without the glitch. And 1% would be a big difference... 1:47 is 107 seconds, so 1% better would be about 1 second. This is assuming game speed is directly tied to framerate, you would need this quantifiable. I know FPS has a noticeable impact, which is why runners look at the ground as much as possible.

[@vswed]

Absolute banger of a video. Great stuff Goose

[@Angel_Boii]

Love this format of the video, the sit down next to the fire just hits haha

[@DunkyFuddha]

Man, I love this channel

[@SeanOBrien-xk1op]

The community allows looking down to save frames -- that is a hack in itself.

[@Kiara_Wrestler]

You made the best decision taking back control with the new cabin 💪🏻 can't wait to settle down and watch this later

[@justin9339-x6u]

It always makes my evening when you post a video! Thanks.

[@TheUnapologeticGeek]

It's so nice to be by the warmth of the fire again.

[@gocanuckgus]

With goldeneye being released on Xbox and switch it definitely helps the game to survive and attract more players. I could see the community creating a separate category for the new consoles and accept times in those systems mainly for the purpose of keeping the game alive

[@kyoai]

9:30 "There is no way to measure or quantify it" Wouldn't it be possible to measure the difference between sounds on and sounds off via a TAS? If the inputs are the same every time, surely you could then see whether it has an effect on the speed or positions of the player.

[@MadmanMario]

Leaving the console on for a long period of time possibly causing the game to glitch is very similar to the Perfect Dark Ghost.

[@NIMPAK1]

I personally see speedrunning as just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to challenge runs. Granted, when it comes to GE007 specifically, I don't know what would replace it. Randomizers? Competitive multiplayer? Maybe much like an art movement, we find a new way to express our skill or player expression to the games we love and speedrunning was simply our medieval period leading into a renaissance.

[@PBTV_25]

From the perspective of a scorerunner, I think speedrunning will remain the most popular form of skill expression not only because of how accessible it is (big communities that already have plenty of resources to help new players learn and most any% categories being digestible enough for the average player, but also because of how universal Speedrunning is. Most average players are willing to do a bit of speedrunning for a game they like because going fast and being competitively efficient is just human nature, but aren't interested enough to do something as esoteric as say, minimum jumps. Additionally, people eventually find out that you can beat the game with x amount of jumps, so when thousands of people manage to accomplish it they start deciding to see who can do it faster. Heck, take Pizza Tower for example. Even in the (very small) score attack scene we still use the timer as a secondary value in-case of a score tie, and it's completely necessary because a few levels have easily achievable max scores. That said, things like score and competitive multiplayer are slept on for a lot of games. Randomizers though I think are starting to gain a lot of popularity but ultimately end up being Speedran.

[@PBTV_25]

Also, worth mentioning, but with how much competition there is in the Speedrunning scene and how many leaderboards there are, it's just naturally going to attract more attention. Both socially/culturally and literally there's so much (digital) infrastructure to facilitate Speedrunning, to the point where I don't think people are going to flock to other things anytime soon.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@PBTV_25 Yup, most people will do something to speed up the boring parts at some point. Be it whistle sprinting in BotW or the Black Mountain shortcut in New Vegas.

[@AlternativeTactics]

looking forward to plenty more fireside lore this season!

[@Peter_1986]

As someone who enjoys math a lot, I really liked how Goose started talking about asymptotes and limits at 15:38.

[@prizm9515]

This kinda reminds me about the Battle for Bikini Bottom speedrunners that put ketchup on their disc in order to make floor clips more consistent. If you are intentionally causing the console or cartridge to malfunction via overheating, overrunning, crocked cartridge, ect. It shouldn't be allowed. Assuming this even saves time which it hasn't been proven to yet.

[@tenniswanksta]

Was that an obscure Norm MacDonald Uncle Terry reference there at the end?... "out of the egg"

[@GamerFolklore]

Yes, glad someone caught it!

[@Seth_M-T]

Always love these fireside chats!

[@awelshwhale]

i speedrun, but not goldeneye, not gonna lie i only watch this channel cause of how cozy the vibe is and im an insomniac so it helps me sleep. still interesting content even though i dont run it GG

[@Sterlin18]

Should of been a conveyor belt ending ...you know leave the next lore up to our imagination James

[@undeadfury55]

The background fireplace is at the perfect volume, best yet!

[@tonimorton]

audio glitching like this on the N64 sounds like perhaps a ticker of some kind overflowing or memory corruption in some manner. i wonder if emulators can experince this.. watching ones memory may be a good idea.

[@ricardod123]

He's back! I was on a speedlore kick too so perfect timing!

[@WiggglezMr]

Would never have thought a TV above a fire box was a good idea.

[@FrankHarwald]

There are ways of finding out whether & how sound effects or long on periods affects lag: a) by black box analysis b) by white box analysis. Black box analysis in this case involve methods like recording inputs simultaneous to av outputs & then comparing them side-by-side from different runs. Doing this efficiently involves using TAS. White box analysis in this case involve methods like code analysis: binary to source code disassembly, decompilation & figuring out what the code does for different inputs. Both are difficult but possible. One might also combine the two.

[@jakobcollier]

The way I see it is if you have to do prep work to get the console to do something unnatural it should not be counted as a glitch-less run. I’m all for separate categories but it should not be encouraged AND counted as a glitch-less run. This is almost on par with the pressing on the controller board strategy, or the putting your cartridge half way in strategy.

[@snowblack90]

Immaculate vibe with the new camera setup

[@Bachilles38]

This is fascinating, a lot of audiophiles will leave on their amps/pre-amps because they notice the sound quality is better, I also do this and notice a small difference, mainly the time it takes to warm up the speakers is significantly faster. My speakers sound much more flat/not as wide at first and take a little to get to their full clarity. When I leave the equipment on all the time this speaker warm up takes 10-15 minutes, and when I have the system off and turn it on fresh the speakers take about 45 minutes to warm up. There are alot similarities with computers being left on all the time operating better.

[@DMMDestroyer]

Want to see how this would affect Depot with that clip through the gate at the end.

[@omegahaxors9-11]

When you're in a [speedrunning GoldenEye 007] and your opponent is [wearing a thumb condom]

[@SludgeBob_]

A similar thing happens when I leave my Switch on after around 3 days and not on sleep mode. The audio would be very delayed and some inputs would drop

[@omarmkwii]

I really enjoy these fireside videos!

[@threatlevel_TACO]

Gentlemen, enjoy the time we have now with GoldenEye. There will be a day -most likely in our lifetime- where GoldenEye will be dead. There will be no more records to be had in speed running. Less and less people will know about this game as newer generations grow older. This game will become no more than a peice of gaming history in a museum. Enjoy these moments because one day it'll be gone.

[@jubeaumont6305]

Naaaaah

[@dogsoap]

Fireside story absolutely kino. Great video!

[@cincin0722]

New subscriber here but been watching your videos for a while. I love all the nostalgia of this it brings me back to when me and my buddies played this 24/7. I have a question though or maybe you have already done a video on this. Is there a possibility that the expansion pack had a play on performance when playing 007 even though it wasn't meant for that game?