This Over Suspension device upgrade will transform your bike | It's NOT just a Tuned Mass Damper

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Very well explained in regards to concept, why and how it works from a technical aspect. The cutaway is an excellent perspective for non technical and visual basic individuals to take an explanation out of the ether and have true context. Highlights from MotoGP also show the chatter riders deal with.

[@ChasingTenths]

Thank you very much Dave, I am over the moon with your feedback, I just loved the science behind this product and tried to explain the theoretical aspects here but you do a much much better job of explaining the on track/road usability benefits. Thanks again

[@ChasingTenths]

Hi Guys, thanks for watching Part 1, here is the link for Part 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXvIYZegiKmXfqc , please do subscribe if you like my work

[@GalactisBBLR]

I’ve been watching this guy a lot more lately. He breaks down every aspect about riding and aftermarket race parts and how they hinder or help, or good or bad and what’s best. My man! 💪🏾💪🏾

[@ChasingTenths]

GALACTUS69 that’s the biggest compliment I ever had. I am so grateful to you and I really appreciate that you watch my content and I am over the moon that’s it helpful 🙏🏼🙏🏼👍🏽👍🏽

[@GalactisBBLR]

Chasing Tenths most definitely! Gotta give credit where credit is due. In the videos I’ve seen of yours so far, you have answered the most intriguing questions that I’ve been searching for. Trust me bro, I’m definitely a fan now. And I’ll be continuing to look for your videos to help me out on my endeavor with my bike. Much appreciated my friend. Keep up the excellent work!

[@cinemoto5715]

I have been educated with your down to earth explanations. Amazing piece of kit, something I'll put on my list for Ducati V2

[@ChasingTenths]

Thank you very much for your kind words , means a lot to me

[@100penas]

For something so new or secret in motogp, the knowledge you have about formula 1 come in handy, very well put together. Great video

[@ChasingTenths]

Thank you Bruno I really appreciate it. Formula 1 was my first love and secretly it will always be my first love. Especially, historic F1 where if you had one great idea, you had chuncks of time to gain. Now, the F1 teams are spending millions just to Chase Tiny Tenths ;). On that note RIP to Sir Stirling moss who died today

[@100penas]

Chasing Tenths R.I.P. Stirling moss

[@Scottm46]

The video wasn't to long. It was an excellent explanation of how that system works. I believe that mass dampers should be available to all racers whom would choose to take advantage of such technology, if not required by all race sanctioning bodies for rider/driver safety.

[@ChasingTenths]

@@Scottm46 thank you very much for the kind words , and I agree with you

[@TonyTsai]

Thank you! I will be sure to keep my eyes out for progress of this product.

[@ChasingTenths]

Tony Tsai yes, that’s a good point because even I am very curious. A few people have bought it , now it will be interesting to see some results , including me, after lockdown , I will test it too

[@FirstLast-tx3yj]

Did you buy one??

[@thewobblywelder8362]

Would there be any benefit of this in other motorcycle sports? Flattrack? Motocross? Pretty awesome little upgrade!

[@ChasingTenths]

brilliant question and very sorry for the late reply, there's a chap in Italy using it on a flat track bike , one guy in uk using it on speedway bike (this is to my knowledge) and many many people use this on Motocross. It's legal in Italy in the motocross championships

[@Ramon51650]

Hi! I came upon your video after doing a YT search. Firstly, thanks for the amount of detail in this presentation! So, I ordered this directly from Supreme Technology, simply because I didn't know that Bellissimo was a USA distributor. The packages delivered yesterday, only to discover that the two small mounting bolts were not included in the package. I immediately contacted them, but I've been met with silence! So, does anyone know the size of those two missing bolts?!?!?!

[@ChasingTenths]

Thanks Ramon, much appreciated, thanks for the nice words. I am so sorry to hear that you haven’t received the bolts . I’ll be honest with you , I don’t have direct contact with them , I just like the science behind the product and made a video . However, they are quite active on their Facebook page and they have been posting recently, please message them on supreme technology Facebook page , if you don’t hear anything please let me know , I can then see what else I can do for you mate. Definitely keep in touch and let me know how it goes please

[@Ramon51650]

@@ChasingTenths Thanks - I really appreciate the rapid response! I'm currently watching the unit being tested by YT'er Dave Henderson of Cali Moto TV; along with the guidance of expert suspension tuner, Dave Moss. Henderson is doing laps at Thunderhill and returning to the pits to have the tire examined by Dave Moss. Interesting stuff!

[@ChasingTenths]

@@Ramon51650 no problem Ramon, yes I found that very interesting too . Dave had commented on my video too . He’s a legend

[@booger65man]

Interesting device. Given it has moving parts, what is the service life? Can it be serviced? Lubrication?

[@ChasingTenths]

That’s a really good question, I’ll send an email to the Italian company supreme technology and come back to you on that

[@BikramSinghRaiDhillon]

Amazing video 💯 well done Abhi 👏👏 explain soo well , looks like it's mandatory all riders should have it . Great work keep it up 👍🏼

[@ChasingTenths]

Wow man , thank you so so much. I am over the moon. I really wanted people to understand the physics behind this product. And I know you would as you have experience with these kind of products from your professional life

[@banzai137]

Great presentation,congratz!!!👏👏 It looks like an awesome improvement to bike stability🙌 Cheers!!

[@ChasingTenths]

Pedro Pinheiro Pedro, I really appreciate you understanding the basic concept of this innovative device. I really think it’s a superb upgrade and it’s backed up by motorsport but most importantly the laws of physics. Thank you for watching :)

[@alexbroder1587]

Hi Abhi.I wanted to ask you if you've tried this device yourself.And what difference did you feel with him?

[@ChasingTenths]

@@alexbroder1587 hi Alex, I’ll be honest, you don’t feel the actual device , you don’t even notice it … however , my tire life has improved massively , I also don’t have the rear end moving too much coming out of corners , I don’t get much fatigue during upto 1 hour stints when I am endurance racing , the stability has improved on hard braking . But I must assure you that these are tiny differences which you notice on long term usage, I have been using it for 4 years now and I noticed all of the above over a long period of time .

[@shaneenticott6490]

Great review, quite edifying. Thanks.

[@ChasingTenths]

What a beautiful choice of word “edifying”.. that’s a first for me Thank you very much Much appreciated

[@shaneenticott6490]

@@ChasingTenths Why thank you sir, ostensibly my comment was also edifying. I have a mass damper on my MM, as you may be able to see in my profile picture. I don't know how much the additions such as wings and the TMD help, but she handles impeccably and is eminently capable. I only hope that one day my skill level might be somewhere close to its capability.

[@ChasingTenths]

@@shaneenticott6490 that’s very well said Shane, I think we all are trying to climb this ladder of skill level not only to justify the upgrades we have put on the bike but to be a complete rider in every way, faster but safer

[@jorgeperez-wd5ge]

Hello! are you still using it? what's your review after 3 years of use? thank you and great video

[@ChasingTenths]

Hi Jorge, I am still using it , I will be posting a review of it in 2 weeks . There will be a new video , I am just waiting for some information from Italy

[@glenno1331]

Why would the Ducati Moto GP one be on the subframe and the others on the swingarm?

[@ChasingTenths]

Because oscillations or tiny movements start tiny from the bottom and get bigger as they go through the bike (think of an upward spiral) Even Honda now has one in the tail in 2023, it was shown in testing .. to be honest , they keep changing the position depending on rider feedback or their data

[@crumbwork]

Nothing listed for Suzuki, that's a bummer. Jumped on over in hopes of getting a new toy for the bike but it was a no go. Appreciate the info however. Loving this channel more and more 🏍🏁

[@ChasingTenths]

Thank you very much mate, I am quite surprised there isn’t one for the GSXR , it’s such a popular track weapon . Gutted for you mate, you never know , it might be in pipeline , thanks very much for the appreciation and support

[@jamiedaugherty1]

Thanks for the great video Abhi!

[@ChasingTenths]

Thanks Jamie, really appreciate it mate

[@disarmyou84]

You did a great job explaining and I will be putting one on both my bikes

[@ChasingTenths]

Thank you very much , much appreciated

[@RickyJr46]

Today for the first time I saw this mysterious device on a Panigale V4R, and reckoned it was a mass damper of some sort. A bit of Googlin' and voila! Very interesting.

[@ChasingTenths]

Excellent, yes, they were made popular from Ducati V4R in the Italian series and now they are in world superbikes and British superbikes. They are getting popular

[@AddisonTyresinTipton]

Awesome video Abhi, very impressed 🤜🏻

[@ChasingTenths]

Thank you very very much guys

[@cbreefers4884]

Great review and explanation. I was wondering how track size and layout plays a roll in the effectiveness of this device? Here in Canada Ontario, our local tracks are tight and short compared to our neighbors to the south and cousins overseas.

[@ChasingTenths]

Thank you mate, much appreciated. It will actually be quite great in tight and short tracks because you have to make the most of the track so you come out quicker off turns and accelerate harder and earlier and the change of directions etc, so it will give great confidence and stability . It’s been quite a hit for off-roading riders too so I reckon short tracks aren’t an issue at all

[@AdrianSinner97]

Thank you for this super great video to explain and document everything, massive work. KUDOS

[@ChasingTenths]

Adrian, wow thank you for appreciating the amount of work which goes into these kind of videos. I am so thankful and very grateful to you

[@AdrianSinner97]

@@ChasingTenths I am also doing video productions on my Vlogs, so, damn I know how much effort was into this. Great work.

[@ChasingTenths]

Adrian Sinner #97 - Moto VLOG wow really!! I always get excited and appreciate when other quality content makers get in touch . I’ll check your work out and subscribe for sure

[@josephdefelix]

Hi looking to purchase, i have a 2005 ZX6R, can this fit/be modified to fit?

[@ChasingTenths]

Hi mate, speak to road race performance Shropshire uk I think their details should be still in the description, they should be able to give you a better answer

[@DylanGSXR]

Fantastic as always Buddy 👍

[@ChasingTenths]

Thanks Dylan, what a coincidence, I was just talking to someone about over suspension, cheers , thanks for the constant support

[@danarcher6249]

Haw, haw! Tire fell on his head! But seriously, great, informative video. Aweaome job!

[@ChasingTenths]

Sky Dan hahaha, thank you . I am glad you picked up the funny side of it :)

[@afrobryan]

Is there one available that doesn't replace the lighttech chain adjuster? I really don't want to have to replace the light tech but I want this device.

[@ChasingTenths]

Excellent point , in the U.K. we have a company working on this solution But it’s not ready yet and won’t be ready for a while as race seasons are in full flow in U.K. every where but for now it’s no choice but to remove lightech adjusters I had to do the same

[@2000hondaboy]

I purchased one, a year past, and installed onto my track bike. Due to the delightful Covid 19/20/21, I have been unable to try/test the device. I purchased it, due to the claim of reducing high siding by 90%. The riders mentioned are top class, riders with superior electronics and suspension set ups, far better than the street rider, also they have access to data computer, so how can I tell its delivering what the over suspension states. Asking for a friend, incase I sound dumb.

[@ChasingTenths]

Haha I love the last line there mate. Well I am in the same boat as you , Jerez cancelled , Portimao cancelled , LeMans cancelled and many U.K. Trackdays are only one day which isn’t enough to test this side by side. I have been speaking to many Portuguese and Italian racers and they love this , the data from world superbike and British superbike cannot be given to public but the data proves it’s worth having on the bike. I haven’t had a single negative comment from any owner of this device yet . I mainly do Trackdays riding and I really wanted to test this side by side alongside another rider who is same weight and same bike but everything got cancelled . I am speaking to the factory regularly If I get some data I will make another video on this with me testing the device over 3 days , but honestly , every racer I have spoken to loves this wether it’s track or off track

[@esstee9595]

An even more basic question: how can you tension the chain on a DSSA like the Ape when you remove one tensioner? The Duc shown has a SSAA, so not a chain tensioning issue to bolt one on.

[@ChasingTenths]

@@esstee9595 the device comes with a tensioner:)

[@ingoforster8831]

Great video, thx for it. But i´ve got some questions: Must the effective direction of the vibrations be known and matched and aligned with the appropriate weight?

[@ChasingTenths]

Thank you Ingo, do you mean aligned to your body weight ?

[@ingoforster8831]

@@ChasingTenths I meant the weight of the damper, probably this hast to be same like the strength of the vibrations?

[@1mikeladd]

It replaces one axle block so how does it attach exactly? I'm curious how you set it to match perfectly with the other side without any markings or notched indicators?

[@ChasingTenths]

Hi Mike , so sorry for the late reply , that chain adjuster block is replaced with exactly same block which comes with the over suspension device as part of the attachment with markings. These are made to suit a particular bike, so the RSV4 one has that perfect block which goes in plush in the adjuster cavity. Thanks for watching Mike, feel free to ask any further questions

[@Hypersonik]

£400 for a weight on a spring?! is there any papers on the actual testing regards the highsides? I reckon you could make something that does the same job for about £20. Chatter/flytter/wobble, they're just names for resonance - an inherent frequency of which cascading energy build up occurs. as long as you have something on the bike to disrupt it, job done.

[@ChasingTenths]

Hypersonik well you raise a fantastic point, I just spoke to a chap who made something like this in his house in 1979 for his two stroke motorcycle and it didn’t cost him much. So I totally agree about the price and I reckon people have to decide what kind of rider level they are at on track and if it will help them but it’s getting introduced on road bikes too recently , Honda Africa Twin and BMW GS (only in front) . In terms of data, yes, Supreme Technology work with a few Italian race teams in Italian premier class but most closely they work with Michele Pirro (MotoGP test rider) and Michael Renaldi from Barni racing team and all the data comes from that team . On their website they have a graph which shows how the damping affects vibrations. But I agree that it’s a bit pricey 🤷‍♂️

[@aly-tek7190]

When will people ever consider all the expense that goes into a Business just to make parts....

[@Hypersonik]

@@aly-tek7190 And when will said business people realise that I'm not paying £400 for a spring with a weight on. £100, maybe.

[@bbbildhuu]

@@Hypersonik apparently people are interested and buying. Make your own then instead of bitching

[@Hypersonik]

@@bbbildhuu Yes, apparently. Means zero assurance on your statement.

[@that_biker_boy5550]

I know these comments were all about 5-6 months ago, but I have a genuine question... Why is the product made to seemingly only have one chain/axle adjuster block? (Does that make sense) on my GsxR you have two blocks (one either side) and you adjust them both via threaded components to make sure the axle is perfectly aligned and your chain is correctly tensioned... The same goes for those lighTec quick chain adjusters etc. So let’s say you remove one, or both. How do you now adjust your chain? If you’re suggesting you just adjust one side and line the other one up approximately then I’d rather have a well tensioned chain and correctly aligned axle then a £400 dampener. I can’t see any form of chain adjustment features on that damper?? Am I missing something?? Not being negative... Just curious as seen this on sale by a very reputable race parts supplier now and am interested if I can understand it fully. Cheers.

[@ChasingTenths]

I understand Mate good point , well raised. You can still adjust the chain both sides with this on easily, the mechanism for chain adjusting doesn’t get removed. This goes in place of the plate and chain can still be adjusted with no issues. I have actually seen it getting adjusted

[@that_biker_boy5550]

Oh of course it does!! 😂🤦‍♂️ Sorry mate, I was having a blonde moment, because the standard OEM adjusted blocks are merely solid blocks of mental aren’t they, with no adjustment on. If just got to use to LighTec ones! Obviously not enough coffees yet! ☕️

[@ChasingTenths]

@@that_biker_boy5550 lol don’t worry mate, I actually thought the same thing when I saw this .. a company in U.K. is working on making adjustments to lightech chain adjusters so this can fit with them rather than OEM adjusters only

[@that_biker_boy5550]

@@ChasingTenths - That would be awesome! I think once they have done that I’ll probably buy one to fit to my bikes... Even if it’s just out of sheer technological curiosity! 😂 I understand the physics behind it and the principle of the device. I’d be interested to get hold of one to test that’s for sure. 👍 I check on RRPS website, doesn’t look like there’s an option for the 2017-2020 shape Gsx-R 1000’s yet. Shame as they make good track bikes.

[@ChasingTenths]

@@that_biker_boy5550 definitely double check with them over the phone mate and you get 15 percentage discount if you tell them OVER15 my discount code from this video . I am sure they do for Suzuki

[@HippoDrones]

Brilliant explanation of the tech CT :-) awesome :-)

[@ChasingTenths]

Thanks very much mate, I was actually thinking about your Moto guzzi again today mate , I keep watching it’s videos online lol

[@HippoDrones]

@@ChasingTenths Hahaha, you'll have to grab a demo on the 2021 Moto Guzzi V7 when it gets to the dealerships! :D

[@ChasingTenths]

@@HippoDrones good point mate Will do for sure It’s got a bit more of everything they say

[@HippoDrones]

@@ChasingTenths here is hoping! :-)

[@motomaismotosport]

amazing technology and great presentation...

[@ChasingTenths]

MotoSport Portugal thank you very much , I appreciate it very much . :)

[@tonydixon4741]

Hi Abhi, I have to say you know how to make a great video, packed with loads of very straight forward information, please keep up the great work you're doing. Having watched your video on the mass damper I've now bought one, but I won' t get to test it until next year. I was hoping you have now tested yours & you could give us all an update on how it went , did you notice any difference ? could you tell it was working , or do you think it just gives you that extra added piece of mind. I would really appreciate your thoughts.

[@ChasingTenths]

Wow Tony, thank you so much for the nice words. They mean a lot to me. To be honest , I have changed my front suspension to ohlins FGR and rear to Ohlins TTX GP now, my whole bike feels absolutely different to last year so I deliberately didn’t install mine thinking I need 4 days on a euro Trackday to really make a detailed video on it and that never happened however , 1 guy in America and 2 guys in Portugal and 2 guys in Italy have written detailed feedback to me . They are good riders and they truly felt the rear was in check on the bike and 2 of them said that they had more peace of mind and they could go on the power earlier coming out of the corners . 2 street only riders told me that they just feel much difference on low speed but on roads with undulating tarmac they felt the difference . I am trying to get some more data sheets from the factory so when I do the 4 day review on a track event in Spain soon then I sill have data to prove too

[@markymarkgonedigging4527]

Do you have a link to website mate after one for a k8 Gixxer 750

[@ChasingTenths]

Here it is mate , sorry I put the wrong link before www.roadraceperformanceshropshire.com/products/oversuspension-for-the-aprilia-rsv4-and-tuono-v4-all?variant=32653733068888 If you can’t find your particular one Ring road race performance tomorrow They normally have it , might not be listed

[@philipm6666]

Awesome info looking forward to ur next video.

[@ChasingTenths]

Philip M I am very grateful you liked and appreciated the video. After such a positive response to this video even I am super motivated for the next one :)

[@philipm6666]

Chasing Tenths The content is good, besides also having a Aprilia and now new s1000rr I’m still new to big bikes. I appreciate you are a Aprilia rider too haha. I race cars in thailand but now found a love for bikes too. So learning more everyday

[@ChasingTenths]

Philip M I just checked your amazing sounding video out. Interesting to hear you are also an Aprilia man. Absolutely fantastic and to be honest you got the best bikes. S1000rr is a great allrounder and Aprilia is just a beautiful chassis bike. Stunning handling. It’s hard to crash them, unless you are me lol

[@philipm6666]

Chasing Tenths well in racing I always think to crash is also to learn. If you never crashed you have never pushed yourself and the car/bike, (track environment Ofcourse). Learning from mistakes is how you become better.

[@ChasingTenths]

Philip M you made my day with that note. I think exactly the same, pushing the barriers is where you learn and sometimes it goes pear shaped

[@64maxpower]

Pro mx racer Kyle Lewis had this on his Noleen YZ250 around 1995

[@ChasingTenths]

Very interesting that

[@mmotorcycles9497]

This was an awesome video. You dumbed it down perfect makes sense.

[@ChasingTenths]

M Motorcycles mate thank you so much , really appreciate it so much . I am so glad I got the message across to loads of people

[@mmotorcycles9497]

It be cool to see you break down some of your favorite tracks that you’ve been on. I’ve only raced in the US and would love to hear your thoughts. Most of the tracks you’ve been on we’ve all watched on tv for years with wsk,moto GP,and bsk.

[@fatbatwing648]

Abhi...did you install it on your ride?

[@ChasingTenths]

Yes , finally I did very early this year And in the process of making a video in autumn to do a final part on it. All positives No problems or undue problems

[@raj8041]

is this available in India? If yes, then can i put this in my KTM duke 200 2020 model.

[@ChasingTenths]

Yes mate I can get you this sent to india through Road Race performance (link in description) if you wish and there’s a 10 percent discount for everyone , see the description There’s a code and link there

[@fastenboalbus4997]

thanks

[@ChasingTenths]

No problem 👍🏽👍🏽

[@ursularathee5430]

Very informative! Amazing work👍

[@ChasingTenths]

Thank you very much for watching

[@rambleonandon]

Good day Mr chasing tenths , I've watched your oversuspension video , and it's brilliant. I am in the process of starting to import the mass damper into South Africa but before I do I need to put some video information together, and was wondering if I could use some of your footage? Kind regards Shaun

[@ChasingTenths]

Absolutely Mr Rider Zone, feel free to use the KZbin link on your page. A lot of other people have done the same, always happy to help. If you will use only a clip of it somewhere then do mention the KZbin channel link somewhere. Much appreciated Hope that helps Best of luck Safe riding and best of business in 2022

[@rambleonandon]

@@ChasingTenths thank you very much

[@ChasingTenths]

@@rambleonandon no problem , always happy to help

[@dariomauro6635]

Hi, Thank for your video, I wanted tò ask you for your advice. I own a KTM 690 r, with this bike I have FUN off- roading and I also go to work on It, in Italy we have roads that are a disaster full of potheles, bumps, depressione, more Dangerous than turning off....,. I was wondering of over suspension can flatten these things making the Road as if It were a billiard table and therefore the ride more comfortable on the back and safer . Thank you for your answer. Mauro Dario.

[@ChasingTenths]

I will be totally honest with you Mauro, this device will not make the road smoother at all… or make the ride feel very smooth .. this device is designed to counter the small oscillations on your bike cause by aggressive riding or small undulations on the road but not major,.. this device is more of a safe guarding device from highsides or small vibrations and constant corrections of the juddering forces .. this is not an additional suspension to smooth road surfaces .. it’s a good question but I don’t want you to spend your money thinking this will act as secondary suspension, it’s more like a damper

[@dariomauro6635]

Thanks That's what I thought Very suitable professionally , But at this point..... fir us humans Who travel normale roads Is the " Air tender " perhaps more suitable? Which acts directly on the shock absorber by also changing the spring itself What do you things? Thanks you again for your professional honesty. Diario

[@ChasingTenths]

@@dariomauro6635 I am so sorry , I didn’t understand the question

[@kevinansell9341]

Interesting and very Informative, Thanks ):

[@ChasingTenths]

Thanks to you for taking time out to comment and appreciating

[@a4wong]

Thanks for the great video.. I just found out abt it and am impressed how good it works..

[@ChasingTenths]

Thank you very much , glad it was helpful

[@nosebluntbob7124]

these seem quite small could you or should you not double them up?

[@ChasingTenths]

Hey Bob, they look small but they aren’t , plus they are quite robust. When you hold them in hand you truly feel it’s got substance . Two can actually anti counter the actual issue One is sufficient However I am told the inventor is working one for the front too. When you see it , it’s quite decent in size , has decent weight to it too

[@nosebluntbob7124]

@@ChasingTenths cool, thanks for your reply. very interesting video and bit of kit. considering a purchase :)

[@jamesrowlands8746]

Is there any intention to make these for yamaha r3 or is the bike deemed not powerful enough to suffer these issue and therefore not needed ? Thanks

[@ChasingTenths]

I think they might have them for the R3 See if you can speak to Road Race Performance Shropshire Details are in the description I am sure they were saying lately that the manufacturer is producing them for mostly all bikes now You do have a point that the undue oscillations will be less on the R3 but you never know they might will make it for the bike Check it out If you have any issues then let me know please

[@jamesrowlands8746]

@@ChasingTenths thanks ill have a look

[@ChasingTenths]

@@jamesrowlands8746 let me know if any issues mate

[@kalheer]

Great video.. i didnt even know about it and now I want to buy one 👍🏻

[@ChasingTenths]

Kal Heer thank you very much mate, it was a tricky one to make and I had a lot more footage from motorsport but I didn’t want to make it too long

[@MrFridayflash]

cheers mate, bloody interesting!

[@ChasingTenths]

eddie mancini it is isn’t it , that’s why I made this video and then part 2 . My background is in science and when I saw this product , it made so much sense on paper . So let’s hope the people who have bought it can try it after lockdown

[@davidmarkham6491]

What's does the moving part of your damper weigh?

[@ChasingTenths]

David Markham it’s 414 grams mate, 0.9 pounds. So not too heavy

[@BizAutomation4U]

There's a very well known tuner you may have heard of... "Dave Moss". I'm going to email him for feedback. Stay tuned (he might post himself). I own a 2018 Tuono RR and am located in Southern California. Any shops in the area that have any experience installing this device ?

[@ChasingTenths]

BizAutomation hi mate, I absolutely adore Dave Moss, love his work and dedication and have paid to watch many of his suspension set up videos . I’d be interested to hear his views but to be honest it’s a proven device in motorsport for many years it’s only made available to the public now so some skepticism is normal from general public. If you are based in California then I do request you to get in touch with Randy at Ballissimotto in Las Vegas, They went to the ECIMA show in Italy and he had seen it installed on the Barni Racing Team’s bike and he spoke to the owner Nicola of Supreme Technology, Bellissimoto sell this too , so do give them a ring and they’ll walk you through the product more if you wish . But for sure someone like Dave who is massive on “Contact Patch” as the name of his channel suggests would be also super intrigued by this , I wouldn’t be surprised if he has already seen it in other shape or forms cause mass dampers come in all sorts of avatars

[@BizAutomation4U]

@@ChasingTenths I actually got a response from Dave via email yesterday. Here's what he said: "It is very intriguing hence asking for one to do a write up on. I am like so many other, very curious indeed to see if this technology will work for the street (slower) or only work at the track (faster)". Seems like an open offer to get a major endorsment from one of the premier suspension voices in our industry. I'd be really surprised if they don't take him up on his offer.

[@inflatedmann]

So where do I buy and is it for a ZX14r

[@ChasingTenths]

Hi mate, contact www.roadraceperformanceshropshire.com please and they should be able to tell you if there are devices available for your particular bike. I think the devise is pretty much the same for all bike just the fitment is different ... thanks for watching , let me know if you have any further questions, I’ll contact Italy directly for you

[@inflatedmann]

@@ChasingTenths yes they did and there is none made yet for the 14...

[@ChasingTenths]

@@inflatedmann aaahhh damn gutted for you mate , I will still send an email to Italy for you to the factory to see if there’s any hope .

[@inflatedmann]

@@ChasingTenths good looking out... liter bikes ugh...

[@RiderXp]

Good stuff mate! Food for some more research... and potentially another expense :D

[@ChasingTenths]

Hahaha , yes, just when you think you got a trick bike and you got all the upgrades. Someone like me turns up with another one lol

[@jonatasbarata]

Very nice! Regards from Portugal 👍

[@ChasingTenths]

Jónatas Barata thank you very much Jonatas. I am happy you liked the video

[@alonzois]

Is Marquez running one of these?

[@ChasingTenths]

Yes , they had this on the Honda too Last two years And the Ducati

[@ktkace]

Had been diy ing a mass damper both for front and rear , the 7 benefits imho is way too OP !

[@ChasingTenths]

Wow, that's epic. Self making these dampers are tricky but certainly achievable. I didn't understand the second part of your comment after the comma

[@ktkace]

@@ChasingTenths it's the 7 benefits you listed, including the 90%reduction in high siding, rear prototypes have failed 3 times imho.

[@marcosroyuelaelche8785]

How did you make it? Did you find plans somewhere or did you design it yourself? How much did it cost?

[@grahamanderson3155]

Where can I get this in ireland 🇮🇪

[@ChasingTenths]

Hey Graham , there is no stockist in Ireland but if you see the link in description from Road Race performance Shropshire UK. They post this internationally so Ireland shouldn't be an issue and I think the code CHASE10 might still work for you to get 10 percent off, I hope it's no expired by now

[@grahamanderson3155]

@@ChasingTenths brilliant thank you😊

[@ChasingTenths]

@@grahamanderson3155 no worries mate

[@Cowvonmoger]

Great video Abhi, I’ve just come across this being shared on Facebook but in all honesty didn’t understand exactly what it does, your video is extremely helpful, made it very easy to understand! I see in the video it’s been tested mainly by super bikes and F1 cars, I assume there would be a benefit to Supermoto riding too?

[@ChasingTenths]

Rob Rive Rob, you just hit the nail on the head. It’s definitely used in super Moto but on the front. It’s just a new innovation to public that not many people know about it and some people think that it’s only for high end racers. This has been introduced lately in touring bikes (Honda Africa twin but it’s electronically managed) . I am aware that motor cross and super Moto also use it. I will make a part 2 of this video where I will explain the gyroscopic damper used by some bikes. Thank you for your appreciation. I am over the moon

[@Cowvonmoger]

@@ChasingTenths Very much looking forward to part 2! Cheers Abhi.

[@osmanali3941]

Fantastic update which is mandatory for the bikers. May I know the price in INR for Kawasaki Ninja1000 (2019 model) and from where I will get it?

[@ChasingTenths]

Osman Ali The company is Supreme Technology in Italy but I will find out for you and let you know mate

[@osmanali3941]

@@ChasingTenths yup please. It will be indeed grateful 👍

[@adamstratford6740]

Really interesting ive actually seen these on Moto gp bikes before and often wondered wtf they were.......well now i know!! 👍🏻

[@ChasingTenths]

Adam Stratford I am so glad you are saying that you have been them on MotoGP bikes cause a lot of people haven’t. Now they are in world superbikes and soon to be in British superbikes

[@adamstratford6740]

Chasing Tenths I’m a MASSIVE Moto gp fan and WSBK so glad there back 😊. Where you based in the uk 🇬🇧? As i heard you mention in another video you’re near Bham I’m also only 10 minutes from bham.

[@ChasingTenths]

Adam Stratford Wolverhampton mate not far Would be good to see you one day Follow on Facebook Chasing Tenths page and you can message me there :)

[@darrenmerl]

Nice video everything mentioned that needed to be. Only concern who would benefit from this is a very fast group rider. Also subscribed will be checking rest of videos

[@ChasingTenths]

Cheers Darren, a very valid point you made there and I was honestly waiting for someone to ask me that question. The thing is, I know many of my examples were from racing but on the flip side you have the novice and inters group guys (I was one so I know) who sometimes over do on the bike and stretch the bike's grip potential. I did that and I crashed twice, so this device can nullify some that negative unstable energy into stable progressive but predictable movements on the bike. On the other side, the product is being hailed as more of a safety feature than an out and out lap time device. So there are more positives from this device than drawbacks. But, I love your question. I often thought about this myself when I was researching about this video. The more I researched the more I was convinced that this is for all riders. Road or Race.

[@darrenmerl]

Chasing Tenths I think this could be a potential device or a oem for most of the brand new 1000cc production bikes as most of them these days are track focused. Once one manufacturer has it everyone else will follow

[@ChasingTenths]

darrenmerl fantastic point again mate. Yeah I don’t know why it doesn’t come in superbikes. New Honda Africa Twin has got this inbuilt in their bike. I guess it’s the next new upgrade on the superbikes. Let’s wait and see :) and thank you for subscribing mate. I am ever so grateful

[@josephdefelix]

​ @Chasing Tenths Update: Mon, October 17, 2022 4:20 AM..ORDER: #6038, DATE July 02, 2022 Payment Status~Paid, Fulfillment Status~Unfulfilled, Total: £434.00..FWD: Road-Race-Performance Shropshire LTD "We are STILL waiting for the over Suspention to arrive !! I will issue you a full refund and let you know when or if the devices we are waiting For arrive."

[@ChasingTenths]

Thanks Joseph mate for the message I will forward your message on to Road Race Performance Shropshire Ltd

[@jake88ci]

if they had it for my MV F4RR i would buy one in a heart beat

[@ChasingTenths]

Hey Jake, it’s an Italian company who makes these , I would be so surprised if they don’t make it for the F4RR .. have you spoken to them yet ?

[@NZ2STROKE]

Would something like this be worthwhile for road riding on something like a ktm 1290 gt?

[@ChasingTenths]

Mate, you just hit the nail on the head. I didn't include this in my video as it would be pretty long but in my description I have mentioned that the new Honda Africa Twin has got this system and the New BMW GS has got it in the front, but both systems are electronically controlled on their top models. I would be surprised if the new KTM 1290 GT has not already got it in some form or the other. This device was first hailed as a stability device for all moving vehicles and now it's become more of a performance device. So mate, definitely it's worth it on a touring bike. That's why deliberately I showed a BMW GS in the video twice because it pays dividends as a road bike gadget too

[@brettpeters5777]

Do they have these for a Ducati 848 2012 ?

[@ChasingTenths]

Brett Peters hey Brett, I have emailed the company in Italy about various bike models including your model too as I had 2 other queries. Unfortunately due to Italy lockdown I don’t know when I will hear from them. But as soon as I hear I’ll send you a msg here

[@ChasingTenths]

Hi Brett, please check the link in description and contact Road Race performance if you are in the UK . I have been told that these are available for mostly all the bikes

[@chem599]

Great video and very interesting but I now want to know more..... Another video with more information would be great 👍

[@ChasingTenths]

chem599 thank you very much , I am working on part 2 of it as loads of people want more information on it . Thank you for appreciating the video , I am ever so grateful

[@11BADV]

Great info, thanks.

[@ChasingTenths]

Mike Dolan thank you , really appreciate you watching it

[@craigthompson1794]

This is interesting I like it defo need more info on this

[@ChasingTenths]

Craig Thompson I know. Even I would love more info too lol. This has been such a secret in the industry , it’s unbelievable. I have ordered a book on dampers lately , let’s see if it unravels more stuff. I’ll keep you posted

[@craigthompson1794]

@@ChasingTenths seen this one for sale on website expensive think is was £400

[@ChasingTenths]

Craig Thompson some people are selling it expensive but it’s £345 from a prominent UK race and road parts supplier, see this link below , however if you use my check out code OVER15, you will get 15 percent off which should be £295 approximately . Hope this helps Mate www.roadraceperformanceshropshire.com/products/oversuspension-for-the-aprilia-rsv4-and-tuono-v4-all?variant=32653733068888

[@craigthompson1794]

@@ChasingTenths cheers I'll look mate

[@aly-tek7190]

Good video :) thanks for sharing

[@ChasingTenths]

ALY-TEK thank you very very much mate. I really appreciate you spending time to watch it

[@64maxpower]

I think this can be refined and make it better

[@ChasingTenths]

There’s an evolution of this device coming for the front of the bike so let’s see what the changes are

[@JamesBrown-ux9ds]

A. you are helping to boost sales, B. there is an effect. But why are you comparing chassis mounted ones like Ducatis and wheel mounted ones like here without mentioning the fundamental difference? And such device will only help when used close to the overall resonance frequency of the whole rear suspension - and this is not constant but changes, due to progression in spring rate and hydraulic damping, changes in tyre internal damping with wear and temp. etc - this immedeately asking for an active version of it, as well to be steared/controlled by the bikes central electronics in an overall integrated way?

[@JamesBrown-ux9ds]

And obviously there is a next field of possible testing to be seen immedeately as well - mounted to a gimbal it could always stay vertical - better or worse?

[@JamesBrown-ux9ds]

Todays world is not providing for answers, but creating even more unsolved problems everywhere everyday - wrong class of people steering/leading.

[@ChasingTenths]

mate, you must have got up from the wrong side of the bed. I'll keep it brief, I have no affiliation to the company, I never made this video for the "sales" aspect. I just liked the simplistic science behind it. And if the video does boost sales of the guys who make it then so be it, good for him or her whoever it is. Finally, I am a physics student from my college and university days and all I have tried to do is explain something in super simplistic words for general public who didn't know something like this existed by using some common examples which we all saw in school unless in arts or sociology. Anyhow, please feel free to make a video if you wish to expand on the points you have mentioned. take care

[@ChasingTenths]

@@JamesBrown-ux9ds I refer to my comment above, feel free to make a follow up video (reply to your second comment)

[@ChasingTenths]

@@JamesBrown-ux9ds great words there mate, now please go ahead, lead by example and do make a follow up video (reply to the third comment)

[@hoslyr86bass]

As i said before on The Aprilia Factory page ill be sharing this awesome video cheers mate 🤙

[@ChasingTenths]

hoslyr86bass yes Sir. Absolutely, sharing is caring lol.. thanks mate so much

[@paulh9301]

Does Marc Marquez have one on his bike?

[@ChasingTenths]

He probably does , you never know , as mentioned in the video Teams try not to talk about this much Especially Ducati This particular item was last seen last year on Marco Melandri’s Bike In World super bike and Josh Brooke’s British superbike Ducati . It’s currently running in the Italian race series with barni racing team & they have won the championship

[@bryanrussell6679]

The majority of people who ride will never be pushing their bikes so hard to get that oscillation in the suspension. Even the people that think they can probably won't.

[@ChasingTenths]

I absolutely agree with you, I feel the same

[@bryanrussell6679]

@@ChasingTenths Having said that, I still want one!

[@ChasingTenths]

@@bryanrussell6679 😂 I truly understand lol

[@stevemurtz3546]

I'm guessing this being a year ago the device didn't really catch on. My question is, if they just supply this in a box and motorcycle suspension being as complicated as it is, who on earth would be able do this setup for you correctly without having a suspension data on your bike like the 2D system on the s1000rr? This looks very gimmicky to me without having the necessary tools for proper setup. It can't simply be slap on and it magically works for every person (ie every weight) on every bike. A few kilos in rider weight can change a bikes suspension setup drastically and then we are not even considering riding style etc etc.

[@ChasingTenths]

They have sold in their thousands especially after they were introduced in British superbikes and world superbikes in 2020. So the technology is proven otherwise it wouldn’t be used at world stage or high competition levels. The device is simple , it works very similar to a mass damper but for motorbikes this time, mass dampers have been in motorsport for nearly 2 decades now . The performance is there but in the finest detail I am sure. I am just a guy who loves physics and this made absolute sense so I made a video as I remember F1 Renault had the same technology too and it was too good and hence it got banned .

[@steverielly]

@@ChasingTenths Can you share links to where this has been introduced into BSB & WSBK, including what info has been available by teams etc that are using them on their bikes.

[@ChasingTenths]

@@steverielly hi Steve, I don’t have links but I have videos I am sure on iCloud where Jamie witham is commenting about Marco mellandri having it on the Barni racing world superbike , I am pretty sure it was Jerez . Feel free to contact me on chasing tenths Facebook page I’ll get the video from iCloud and send it over to you. On the otherside Josh Brooke’s had it on his championship winning season on the second half of the season PBR BSB TEAM bought 4 devices from ROAD RACE PERFORMANCE , they had it for the last 6 races of the season . Feel free to double check it with road race performance Shropshire also the device is constantly used in the Italian national race series with barni racing , they won the championship again this year with Pirro/Rinaldi and Luca Salvadori. Also , In terms of data , there is no way they will release that , I must have asked 3 times now . It’s all a bit hush hush . But feel free to contact me on Facebook I am sure I recorded Jamie witham commenting about the device , I have that video .

[@steverielly]

@@ChasingTenths I've seen it on some marketing shots too, but can't see it on the bike when on-track racing. Looking at what the MotoGP teams have done, their units are HUGE by comparison, which makes a lot more sense than the unit on Marcos bike ( marketing shots ). I'd want to see a full-on review by Dave Moss to be convinced that small unit does anything remotely worth anywhere near the price they're asking for a small spring & weight.

[@ChasingTenths]

@@steverielly yeah there’s not much shots on the WSBK bike and the bsb bike. To be honest i respect Dave moss a lot but on the other hand if huge teams like barni racing and other big teams used it consistently then there’s something in that device and it’s been used in Moto gp for ages and F1 too plus many other high speed trains and buildings, and teams being so secretive about the data is also a tell tell sign . As an example of physics , it makes perfect sense . And I come from a science background so I have faith in this device fully. But I have no affiliation to the company whatsoever. I am eager to hear Dave’s point of view on it

[@PipeWagonTV]

The SHAKE WEIGHT 😅😂😭😭😭😭

[@simmonds58]

I get the idea. But mounted on the chain adjuster? To me it seems too far away from the suspension for it to work. But hey what do I know? I just ride them.

[@ChasingTenths]

RS Racing Channel hey mate, thanks for watching . It doesn’t need to be close to the suspension. It’s better if it’s far as that’s where the vibrations are. The vibrations are lower in the middle. Best example is sitting behind a bus, right at the back, you get a bumpy ride and you start to feel 🤢 sick. For example Ducati put this device (gyroscopic version) in the Lower tail of the bike just as I described on the video so it nullifies all the vibrations. I hope that made sense . Happy to explain more with videos if you wish :)

[@keithreeder]

Distance from the suspension is irrelevant as long as it's part of the unsprung mass, which is where the chatter is generated.

[@mariuszsupport8168]

hello can i get that for me bmw s1000rr 2013 ?

[@ChasingTenths]

Check with Road Race performance, see description of the video mate , there is a link

[@synonyx]

Well done! but my wallet won't be thanking you LOL!

[@ChasingTenths]

Rory J hahahahaha, Rory good one lol. I know the feeling mate, I’ve had to spend loads after a huge crash last year to mend the bike. I have now got a 15 percent discount code for people . Check the description for the details . So that will save you about £50 . Code is OVER15 with road race performance Shropshire website

[@leandroschauvinhold1557]

This concept comes from citroen in the 60's.

[@ChasingTenths]

That’s so true , Citroen was way ahead of its time with hydraulic damping & many other features . Well said 👍🏽👍🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@keithreeder]

Video too long? Naaah, just right, Abhi. It might have felt longer with a less engaging presenter, but you have nothing to worry about on _that_ score..!

[@ChasingTenths]

Keith Reeder Keith, that is a wonderful comment and that’s really made my day. Thank you ever so much . I will be doing another follow up video on it as it’s generated quite a bit of interest and I still have so much data, examples and footage I recorded which could really come in handy for part 2 especially gyroscopic dampers. Thanks again

[@BigKnifeWind]

Wish the explanation was earlier in the vid. Maybe I got short attention span but get to the point quicker buddy. Talk the way you race 😉

[@ChasingTenths]

It’s only a 14 odd min video mate on a very complicated device , the problem is if I had mate it shorter and hadn’t explained properly, I would get slated for the same lol , can’t win But these days I understand everyone wants information quickly Plus the video was done before KZbin shorts were popular. I am one of those creators who is quite into detailed explanations , I guess it comes from coming from a whole family full of lecturers .. thanks for being polite atleast 🤗

[@garymoxon1980]

Good content put leave out the convid propoganda

[@ChasingTenths]

Thanks mate for the appreciation. I respect your opinion fully. Hope the covid part didn't put you off the video

[@timrawllinson4914]

How much...? Shut the front door !

[@ChasingTenths]

Tim Rawllinson 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 love it ... I am gonna use that line “shut the front door “👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽

[@loopie007]

This is snake oil. Never attach something like this to your swingarm or forks. The device Renault used was attached to the chassis, not the end of the wheels! You can never stop tire chatter on a racetrack, as the track has lots of bumps created by the racing cars with their super sticky tires and big wings. The "Mass Damper" the GP bikes use is mounted in the chassis, not the wheels. This is JUNK! RUN AWAY!

[@taitsmith8521]

Oh, they just applied the mass damper that Renault was running on their nose cones to motorcycle swingarms. Makes sense. Although realistically, nobody on the road is ever going to need this.

[@ChasingTenths]

There is a big difference between the f1 mass damper and this one but the physics is similar and same principles behind it .. in part 2 of the video I explain the road aspect

[@taitsmith8521]

Or rather a shake weight on the swingarm 😆 Nah man, I love it. I'm surprised by how small it could be made to be effective, which is the advantage of locating it as far from the fulcrum as possible. Pretty ingenious.