This Painting Isn't As Innocent As It Seems. Here's Why.

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This 1700s painting is called the Nude Maja by Francisco Goya. It was a private commission that was never supposed to see the light of day. A painting that was hidden behind closed doors for over a decade. A painting that was confiscated by authorities and almost led to Goya’s arrest! A few years later, Goya created The Clothed Maja. Her pose and expression is almost identical to her counterpart. Although we aren’t sure of the identity of the person who commissioned this piece, all signs point to Manuel de Godoy, the first secretary of State of Spain, appointed by King Charles IV. While the model's identity remains a mystery, she’s believed to be either the Duchess of Alba, Goya’s rumored mistress or Pepita Tudó, Manuel de Godoy’s mistress. The paintings were confiscated from Godoy’s collection by Napoleon Bonaparte’s forces when the French occupied Spain during the Peninsular War. They were then confiscated by the Spanish Inquisition once Ferdinand VII returned to power. Francisco Goya was uniquely able to divulge the uncomfortable aspects of the human condition through his art and this piece is no exception! Thanks for watching!
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@ZorroVulpes
@ZorroVulpes Жыл бұрын
We're laughing at 1700's Europe for thinking this painting is too raunchy, but KZbin in 2023 decided this painting was too raunchy.
@stevenwilson5556
@stevenwilson5556 Жыл бұрын
KZbin does not appreciate great art!
@antoniocasias5545
@antoniocasias5545 Жыл бұрын
So?
@laff__8821
@laff__8821 Жыл бұрын
@@antoniocasias5545 so what? That's it?
@antoniocasias5545
@antoniocasias5545 Жыл бұрын
@@laff__8821 yep
@rogerjamespaul5528
@rogerjamespaul5528 Жыл бұрын
Woke gone to the extreme.
@rcw198
@rcw198 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe KZbin had an issue with your original video. Similar works of art are viewed daily all over the world in art galleries by people of all ages, even young children on school field trips. I’m glad to have seen the 1st video.
@curtisbryce5096
@curtisbryce5096 Жыл бұрын
The lefties are against anything that is fun and everything that is funny and entertaining.
@thecook8964
@thecook8964 Жыл бұрын
And yet they let the videos made by the anorexic woman in the last stages be posted for viewing...
@purplecat4977
@purplecat4977 Жыл бұрын
I guess it proves that the world really hasn't changed.
@Eyecosaeder
@Eyecosaeder Жыл бұрын
​@@Foodloverxxprobably the censorship of the cat and the dots
@C-SD
@C-SD Жыл бұрын
People that can't see nudity without thinking about sex can't handle it.
@robertpizor577
@robertpizor577 Жыл бұрын
Just noting the irony that Goya wanted to show the world as it really is while KZbin is so uncomfortable with the world as it really is that even today they censor an artistic genius.
@amberspecter
@amberspecter Жыл бұрын
You've put more thought into your comment than KZbin, in its censoring. The algorithm probably saw boobies and went 'boobies forbidden = flag video'
@antoniocasias5545
@antoniocasias5545 Жыл бұрын
It’s not irony. KiIIing was illegal then does that mean it’s outdated now?
@AnnoyingNewsletters
@AnnoyingNewsletters Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, Facebook Technology automatically flagged a clearly labeled KZbin video of a nailgun shooting at a ballistics gel hand as nudity or other sexual content, resulting in a month of Facebook jail. In response, I deactivated my account.
@seraphinasullivan4849
@seraphinasullivan4849 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love how Goya was told to paint a clothed version of the nude, said sure thing, then painted her vacuum-sealed into a chemise
@llamasugar5478
@llamasugar5478 Жыл бұрын
And the folds of the chemise at the objectionable “junction” suggest what they’re supposed to be concealing.
@seraphinasullivan4849
@seraphinasullivan4849 Жыл бұрын
@@llamasugar5478 and the tummy hair. And the sash really exaggerates her curves
@callmefox630
@callmefox630 Жыл бұрын
If anything this screams almost the same type of artistic nature as NSFW artists nowadays
@concerningindividual629
@concerningindividual629 Жыл бұрын
@@callmefox630 Goya is basically a NSFW art commissioner, dear god
@manager-nim2623
@manager-nim2623 Жыл бұрын
He’s a “don’t tell me what to do” kinda guy
@KarlBunker
@KarlBunker Жыл бұрын
220+ years later, Goya is still making social commentary by showing us how stupid and infantile the censors at KZbin are.
@hittheroadjack2014
@hittheroadjack2014 Жыл бұрын
Ahead of the times, then and forever
@antoniocasias5545
@antoniocasias5545 Жыл бұрын
How?? And it’s not chiIdish to censor nudity. What universe are you living on?
@KarlBunker
@KarlBunker Жыл бұрын
@@antoniocasias5545 Yes, actually, it _is_ childish to censor nudity, especially when it's a fricking painting. And I live in (or "on") a universe where no harm whatsoever will ever come to anyone by them being exposed to a depiction of a nude body. Trust me; I've checked. *NO ONE* will ever be harmed in any way, manner or form by said exposure.
@standardqueue
@standardqueue Жыл бұрын
@@antoniocasias5545 We already know you like your comments, genius.
@Oatmeal-Savage
@Oatmeal-Savage Жыл бұрын
@@antoniocasias5545 Whatever universe you live in, I don't want to live there.
@applepye1353
@applepye1353 Жыл бұрын
You got flagged? KZbin is stupid. This is art history.
@homeland1128
@homeland1128 Жыл бұрын
first time here?
@marcozaccagni1813
@marcozaccagni1813 Жыл бұрын
Onlyfans' art, not this.🧢
@afishkiss1836
@afishkiss1836 Жыл бұрын
Lol, yes. Yes they are stupid.
@jayvorheee7042
@jayvorheee7042 Жыл бұрын
It reminded me of 1 of the high schools I went to. The girls werent allowed to wear sleeveless shirts cuz our armpits were sexy I guess. Anyway, damn KZbin and its weird hang ups 🤨
@danielled8665
@danielled8665 Жыл бұрын
Haven't you heard? KZbin is like Victorian England. Go ahead and lie, sell all the snakeoil and do a few racisms, but Female Body Existing? Arrest this man he has painted a Bweb!
@jbaccanalia
@jbaccanalia Жыл бұрын
KZbin said nudity in art was ok, but 200 years later Goya is still too much for the faint of heart. Surely a sign of true greatness!
@animaties7214
@animaties7214 Жыл бұрын
wait youtube literally said that nudity is allowed on youtube, (in a KZbin Community Guidelines video they said: "We actually allow nudity when the primary purpose is educational, documentary, scientific *or artistic* "), so why did she have to repost this video and blur out the privates of the woman on the painting?
@karenholmes6565
@karenholmes6565 Жыл бұрын
Because the world hates a hairy kitty.
@bobh28630
@bobh28630 Жыл бұрын
@@karenholmes6565 --- Likely you have revealed a bizzare -and ridiculous- human foible.
@StellaWaldvogel
@StellaWaldvogel Жыл бұрын
Because youtube fears "The Cat."
@Liliarthan
@Liliarthan Жыл бұрын
Because KZbin is allergic to cat hair.
@freddybee4029
@freddybee4029 Жыл бұрын
Because you tube is allergic to basic intelligence
@TheShmileyDawg
@TheShmileyDawg Жыл бұрын
It just goes to show the scope of Goya's creativeness and talent to have a range of work that includes this beauty along with Saturn literally biting his son in half.
@GalootWrangler
@GalootWrangler Жыл бұрын
Another example in that vein, The Disasters of War.
@christianshaffer5382
@christianshaffer5382 Жыл бұрын
YT has litteraly thrown shorts that are just porn into my feed but flags artwork smh
@sonialinsey8083
@sonialinsey8083 Жыл бұрын
I once stumbled upon an “instructional” video of a brazillian wax job that was not censored in any way but you know a 200 year old painting is too graphic lol.
@Eyecosaeder
@Eyecosaeder Жыл бұрын
​@@sonialinsey8083stumbled, should be in quotation marks as well
@Rene.Rondeau
@Rene.Rondeau Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I saw this yesterday before KZbin stupidly pulled it down and demanded it be censored. That's beyond ridiculous. Your videos are insightful, educational, and super enjoyable. Keep up the great work, in spite of KZbin's unjustified prudishness.
@s.8462
@s.8462 Жыл бұрын
I was halfway through it when it went private xD Super dumb of YT, it's frikin art!!
@eddydiyartcraft6780
@eddydiyartcraft6780 Жыл бұрын
Dang, i am late😫
@florac6906
@florac6906 Жыл бұрын
I wish I see the original video
@alanmckinnon6791
@alanmckinnon6791 Жыл бұрын
and that is what Nebula is for
@sophiaisabelle01
@sophiaisabelle01 Жыл бұрын
The painting looks like it's got layers to it. The magnificence behind it is far too incomprehensible even at just a single glance.
@haphuongnguyen3358
@haphuongnguyen3358 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the painting wasn't much to analyze. It's the people's reactions to it. Sure, her eyes and pose are suggestive. But watching men scrambling, having a moral panic at the sight of a woman's flesh is far more interesting, especially the guy with a whole room of women nude paintings was the one requesting censorship. I think it's very similar to Olympia. Both women looked straight at the people lusting after their flesh. Surprisingly, they can't return the favour. They couldn't stand looking at their own reflection in those women's eyes. They knew that they were the perverts and they hated that realization. That's something that can't be perfectly captured on a canvas, merely evoked by one.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
Irony that we think we've moved on but youtube thinks this painting is still to risqué.
@peterjf7723
@peterjf7723 Жыл бұрын
The way KZbin wants to restrict access to art like this is pathetic and sad.
@susansharp985
@susansharp985 Жыл бұрын
The dog painting (of his dark paintings after going deaf) was absolutely heartbreaking.
@SheriLynNut
@SheriLynNut Жыл бұрын
Nobody could paint textiles like Goya. Fantastic Master. But man, did he make King Charles have some derpy eyes 😂
@nurlindafsihotang49
@nurlindafsihotang49 Жыл бұрын
Well, troll gotta troll, bruv.
@elizabethjennings231
@elizabethjennings231 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how people in that time took issue to her having hair on her 😺 the painting is provocative but how are they gonna take issue to seeing hair on a human body? I feel like at that time it was the norm for people to have hair on their arms, legs and bodies but I could be wrong.
@MissMiserize
@MissMiserize Жыл бұрын
I may be wrong about this, but it may be because visible body hair on a woman was seen as immodest. When woman were expected to cover their legs, they weren't expected to shave them. They practice of shaving them coincided with raising hemlines. Shorter skirts and exposed legs were already controversial, so shorter skirts with exposed hair(because usually you would only see legs on little boys and girls, even men didn't wear shorts often) was so unruly it was considered to cross minimum norms of decency. So the hair on her may've been the norm for a decent woman with her husband, but is scandalous because it was too gratuitous for the time, like having legs spread open.
@SIC647
@SIC647 Жыл бұрын
And yet KZbin felt the need for that very part to be censored....
@bluegirl278
@bluegirl278 11 ай бұрын
@@MissMiserizebut if it’s a nude painting wouldn’t it be more modest for her to have it since it means she’s a “proper modest” woman and doesn’t remove it for others. Like wouldn’t the paintings being hairless be seen as more immodest because they’re expecting to be seen nude? Not really asking you just pointing out some confusing parts of history lol
@MissMiserize
@MissMiserize 11 ай бұрын
@@bluegirl278 No. That hair was considered sexually provocative. Shaving was for purposes of modesty. Nude paintings and art isn't inherently pornographic- the culture decides when it crosses that line. I get what your saying, but because the subject of a nude painting is being purposefully displayed nude (it's not candid) they wouldn't see it that way.
@bluegirl278
@bluegirl278 11 ай бұрын
@@MissMiserize I’m just confused then. So basically hair was seen as attractive so they’d keep it for their partner but if they were depicted or posing nude it would be gone so they’d be seen as less sexual or attractive? I know art wasn’t inherently viewed as sexual, I’m just confused how not removing hair would be seen as more sexual if normal women weren’t expected to remove it. Is it because of the fact that normal women would have it so it seems more private or “real” to see it in a painting, like it’s a nude of a normal woman so it’s sexual rather than mythical and purely artistic?
@21st.centurygirl29
@21st.centurygirl29 Жыл бұрын
I have seen this painting in person (I’m from Spain) and it’s way bigger and prettier than I thought 😍
@karenholmes6565
@karenholmes6565 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing that modern day youtube is as prudish as early 19th century Spain, and it is the exact same kitty issue. That makes me chuckle
@Julian-tf8nj
@Julian-tf8nj Жыл бұрын
I don't know about "chuckle"... I think "that makes me PUKE" is more accurate imo
@alyrios
@alyrios Жыл бұрын
If there is something I really enjoy about your videos is your editing and sounds you add to your videos. I wish my art appreciation class was as entertaining as these videos.
@richardcoughlin8931
@richardcoughlin8931 Жыл бұрын
De Goya would chuckle at Maja getting flagged by KZbin.
@Julian-tf8nj
@Julian-tf8nj Жыл бұрын
probably "gag" rather than "chuckle"...
@naly202
@naly202 Жыл бұрын
Growing up I never understood why some nudes were acceptable, while others were deemed scandalous. I've come to realise men at the time simply couldn't stand paintings of naked women who stared back at them. They wanted to know them weak, dreamy and docile. A direct stare freaked them out as a display of strength.
@TeensierPython
@TeensierPython Жыл бұрын
Yeah. That’s totally it. Men were so weak from a stare. It’s many things. Always has been. Still is to this day.
@naly202
@naly202 Жыл бұрын
@@TeensierPython i mean the men wanted women to be weak, docile and subdued. Some social codes demanded that women kept their eyes down and avoided a direct stare (out of modesty). The only women who stared were the prostitutes. They blatantly displayed themselves and challenged potential customers. Men of high social status often visited those girls, but they didn't want people to know (they wanted to preserve an air of respectability). When they looked at a painting, they wanted allegory, symbolism, myth, etc NOT the picture of a prostitute they probably knew, staring back at them with cold businesslike eyes. (one of the best examples is Olympia.)
@Upuaut4572
@Upuaut4572 Жыл бұрын
it is far simpler than that ;)
@flyingsky1559
@flyingsky1559 Жыл бұрын
Also the hairy poontang, another display of dominance.
@juanjoseleonvarea2495
@juanjoseleonvarea2495 Жыл бұрын
My theory is simpler: paintings with naked women looking directly produce the sensation of desire towards the viewer, while those with the model looking in another direction do not imply sexual desire or intent. And in a more puritanical society it is something that is not easily accepted. It's not because we're afraid of a woman looking directly at us.
@marthahill9192
@marthahill9192 Жыл бұрын
Classical artwork should NEVER be blurred out! Why can you see these paintings in a museum, but when it is on the internet, it is all of the sudden ? KZbin censors need some education in displaying artwork.
@skyworm8006
@skyworm8006 6 ай бұрын
It's simply because of American advertising companies and U.S law. No other reason.
@Tudorlady5
@Tudorlady5 Жыл бұрын
Your analysis of Goya's work is beyond superb, thank you! I've spent happy hours in the Prado being overwhelmed by his genius. Your videos are a blessing
@MIKAEL212345
@MIKAEL212345 Жыл бұрын
Ridiculous you had to censor this.
@Jade_Coeurl
@Jade_Coeurl Жыл бұрын
I watched this yesterday. This video was 'previously deemed acceptable by the Inquisition' as well.
@racer2c
@racer2c Жыл бұрын
I was so excited when I saw the thumbnail yesterday but then it was gone which made me sad. Now its back and I'm happy again. :)
@koyachim4805
@koyachim4805 Жыл бұрын
I went to spain on a school trip and learned a lot about goya and fell in love I was so excited to learn more about his art and life through this video!! thank you!
@GalootWrangler
@GalootWrangler Жыл бұрын
It was dismaying to see this taken down yesterday. Has youtube ever looked at its ads? Anyway, glad to have the Duchess back. (And having read the comments, sorry you had to make changes).
@technojunkie123
@technojunkie123 Жыл бұрын
I literately just saw all these paintings in person in the Prado the other day - what great timing this video is!
@beibee8801
@beibee8801 Жыл бұрын
love that youtube decided that a woman's nude body -- not deceased, not covered in blood, not mutilated or tortured or otherwise offensive, but just a plain natural human body -- DEPICTED IN PAINT was just too much for this website. now this video and the painting it's honoring can't be fully appreciated. this is literally an educational video for god's sake wtf
@theorderofthebees7308
@theorderofthebees7308 Жыл бұрын
The irony that the painting was controversial for its time period and once again its controversial for KZbin- the censorship of boobs is crazy.
@Nylak-Otter
@Nylak-Otter Жыл бұрын
And it's so weird. I'm a lesbian, so I see lots of boobs, have handled lots of boobs, have my own boobs, illustrate lots of boobs, and work professionally with lots of boobs that are attached to non-human animals; boobs are so common that the absence of boobs is more uncomfortable than the presence of boobs. I am in a position that I feel very differently about penises of the human sort, however, and since these censorship laws and rules are probably made by men who don't get much access to boobs, they probably think they're something to be hidden away and kept secret from everyone else, as well.
@jonharker5510
@jonharker5510 Жыл бұрын
These videos are the best. please never stop making them
@Art_Deco
@Art_Deco Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jon for your comment and becoming a channel member! 🙌
@afishkiss1836
@afishkiss1836 Жыл бұрын
I love the way you explain and edit everything.❤️
@onemercilessming1342
@onemercilessming1342 Жыл бұрын
I remember a movie shown on TV that my mother wouldn't let me watch, called "The Naked Maja". It was shown in the early 1960s. It was originally released in 1958 and featured Ava Gardner and Anthony Franciosa.
@artbitesgregory
@artbitesgregory Жыл бұрын
‘The Naked Maja’ Is available to view on KZbin.
@onemercilessming1342
@onemercilessming1342 Жыл бұрын
@@artbitesgregory Thank you.
@tto0508
@tto0508 11 ай бұрын
​@@artbitesgregoryWHERE
@daveseddon5227
@daveseddon5227 Жыл бұрын
I much preferred the uncensored version but could not comment as did not view it on my PC - text input on my TV is tedious! Oh well, nothing much can be done about it or is there a way to protest KZbin censorship? Would that do more harm than good to your channel? So many questions, so little time. Of course it's still a good video! 😊
@murdo_mck
@murdo_mck Жыл бұрын
Wikipedia reveals all
@cheatsheet3325
@cheatsheet3325 Жыл бұрын
When Byron says you should slow down you've got a problem.
@thecook8964
@thecook8964 Жыл бұрын
😯😆
@jamesonpace726
@jamesonpace726 Жыл бұрын
Hysterical! Violence good, sex bad. Hypocrisy? Nope....
@glengreen362
@glengreen362 Жыл бұрын
One of the anecdotes I heard in art classes was that in the painting of the Spanish royal family, it looked like a painting of a fishmonger's family that had won the lottery, a clear illustration of the rampant inbreeding of European royalty in those days. Now don't shoot the messenger, I'm just passing on what I heard.
@newfiejoe4998
@newfiejoe4998 Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe that KZbin is making channels blur art. KZbin and this world's thinking is gone too far. RIDICULOUS!!!
@LeeAnneGomes
@LeeAnneGomes Жыл бұрын
I would adore if at some point you compared KZbin's mammary sensitivities to historical sensitivities.
@karenholmes6565
@karenholmes6565 Жыл бұрын
I think it was the kitty that got youtube's goat, This channel has shown lots of beautifully done boobies in the past. T is okay, A is okay, kitty not okay. Cracks me up.
@LeeAnneGomes
@LeeAnneGomes Жыл бұрын
@@karenholmes6565 On International Women's Day no less. Free the kitty!
@GalootWrangler
@GalootWrangler Жыл бұрын
Those sensitivites stop short of their ads, e.g. for “rare historical photos” which, by some odd quirk of history, always show a large-breasted woman.
@marilyn8490
@marilyn8490 Жыл бұрын
Goya is one of the most fascinating artists in Spanish history. He was smart and perceptive of the true nature of his subjects in each painting. Great to see the collection of his works in the Prado Museum in Madrid. All the fuss over naked paintings...that never seems to quiet down over the years, does it?
@cbstringham13
@cbstringham13 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I love your videos, they are not only informative but very entertaining. Thank you for sharing!
@Art_Deco
@Art_Deco Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@JamesJones-zt2yx
@JamesJones-zt2yx Жыл бұрын
Wow. As a freshman in college I read Emilia Pardo Bazan's "El premio gordo". All I remember was the opening sentence: "Fue el tiempo de Godoy" (It was the time of Godoy). I never looked up Godoy, but now I know. Thank you!
@-VoDkAsVengeance-
@-VoDkAsVengeance- Жыл бұрын
I love paintings like this, not because I find them sexually appealing, but because I find them empowering (for how overused that word is now.) There are many paintings of nude women that were demonized simply because of the woman not also being powertrayed as a powerless, subservient sex object, much as The Luncheon in the Grass, where a nude woman stares brazenly at the viewer whilst the two clothed men she sits with seem to pay no mind - sexually or judgementally - to her body. Still today the fetishization of childishness and helplessness is rampant, and it's only getting worse with this sudden fear of aging that seems to be effecting younger and younger people.
@JellyWaltzov
@JellyWaltzov Жыл бұрын
Thanks! These videos have been both entertaining and educational. Please keep making them!😍
@Art_Deco
@Art_Deco Жыл бұрын
Thank you for supporting the channel!!
@paullazarro4295
@paullazarro4295 Жыл бұрын
KZbin has a ridiculous policy regarding nudity. You can look at totally NUDE Yoga but can't see this historic art without blurring. SMH !!!
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 Жыл бұрын
I was so confused when I saw this upload it’s so stupid that the old one got flagged
@missustoad1
@missustoad1 Жыл бұрын
I mailed a postcard from Madrid of La Maja desnuda painting to my father. He put it up in the center of a huge white painted wall in the old farmhouse. You could barely see it unless you walk to the center of the wall. It's funny that this painting shocks people throughout history.
@yodan00b
@yodan00b Жыл бұрын
it's interesting how similar of a pose that James Cameron drew the character of Rose in in the movie "Titanic" sure it's not a hard pose to come up with but still the similarities in the layout makes me think that it was an artists nod of inspiration. mirrored yes, but maybe there was something else to that too.. "While Cameron sketching the drawing was the best choice for the film, it did create a problem when it came to filming the actual scene. James Cameron is left-handed and so the footage of the sketch being drawn had to be flipped in order to match the footage as Jack is portrayed as right-handed. According to the behind-the-scenes, Cameron did two drawings. One was where Rose was lying down the opposite way so that when the footage was flipped Rose would be facing the correct way and the second drawing was done correctly and was used as the finished drawing in the film."
@yourbestnightmare69420
@yourbestnightmare69420 Жыл бұрын
I think this is starting to become my favorite art history channel. Very informative stuff and keeps things interesting and entertaining. Also the irony that this video got censored just hurts. Wait until they start making people have to blur out the blood in certain paintings... ah, I jest. No one cares for blood and gore. But god forbid a pair of breasts show up!
@Sunny_Now_and_Then
@Sunny_Now_and_Then Жыл бұрын
Goya was a fighter - love that you show so many of his statement works.
@jenniferstromsoe4924
@jenniferstromsoe4924 Жыл бұрын
You crack me up. That was so informative. Never lose your sense of humor.
@QwertiusMaximus
@QwertiusMaximus Жыл бұрын
Nobody expects the KZbin Inquisition!
@LyleFrancisDelp
@LyleFrancisDelp Жыл бұрын
She wasn't all THAT hairy! In fact, she looked quite trim.
@possumaintdead
@possumaintdead Жыл бұрын
Sorry I missed yesterday’s version. I love your videos. They are always a chance to learn something about art and also have a chuckle. Thank you!
@Snarpips
@Snarpips Жыл бұрын
I've just found your channel two days ago and have literally been bing watching your videos while me and the little one are sick, I gotta say Thank you for your well narrated content, i've actually laughed out loud a lot throughout and happy to say your videos have given me a light through the gloom! Thank you, you're a true artist in every aspect :)
@uniquewierdo3757
@uniquewierdo3757 Жыл бұрын
I was shocked when i saw KZbin had problems with the first one you uploaded... Like why? Just why...
@nannettefreeman7331
@nannettefreeman7331 Жыл бұрын
I went to a State University that was located directly across the street from a private Baptist-run university. The two schools had a policy of honoring credits from classes taken at the other. If a class you wanted was already full or wasn't offered at all, you could go across the street & take it there, so it was a good thing, until it wasn't. Because students from the Baptist University were likely to enroll in art classes at the State University, we couldn't have nude models in our figure drawing classes. This really irked the Dean of our School of Fine Arts, who also happened to be the professor who taught all the advanced drawing & painting courses, as he felt the strings & straps of the bathing suits models were required to wear really disrupted the artists' compositions in a most jarring way. But what could he do? The Baptists from across the street made it clear: bathing suits on the models, or they would not honor Joe Blow's credit for the Spanish class he'd taken. He STRONGLY encouraged us to omit the offensive bits (i.e. the bathing suits) & fill in the blanks using our imagination, or set up a still life of flowing fabric to then incorporate into our figure studies in place of. He was a great teacher. RIP Dr John Linn ✌🏼 PS: Censorship of educational content sucks, KZbin!
@mirandagoldstine8548
@mirandagoldstine8548 Жыл бұрын
Your art teacher certainly sounds like a wonderful guy. I just don’t get the prudish nature of some people. Nudity was a part of art for millennia, with or without any sexual connotations. I feel like certain religions have really messed it up. If they want to argue why it’s inappropriate for art to have nudity I would just bring up the depictions of Jesus Christ naked save for a loin cloth and asked them if they think it’s sexual in nature. My paternal grandma (technically step grandma) didn’t bat an eye at nudity in art and she was Catholic. She just appreciated art for the sake of beauty. I even wrote a paper on Renaissance erotic art and let me tell you a large chunk of it is relatively tame (well save for a certain collection of prints which apparently were so risqué that their very nature led to them being destroyed and the copies of those prints destroyed until we are left with only copies of the copies).
@mrsbimbi6366
@mrsbimbi6366 Жыл бұрын
This channel is fantastic. I could watch these artwork deep dives for hours. And I know nothing about art. Still, so interesting and well presented. Also - your voice sounds so relatable and simultaneously so soothing! Thanks for all the hard work.
@SarahAbramova
@SarahAbramova Жыл бұрын
How do you make a naked painting less provocative than the clothed one!?
@99SIN
@99SIN Жыл бұрын
That's curiosity. What could be inside!
@SarahAbramova
@SarahAbramova Жыл бұрын
​@Mirror_B4U but the nude one was first. That's like reverse stripping. Which is just putting on clothes.
@99SIN
@99SIN Жыл бұрын
@@SarahAbramova The painter was proving the point I mentioned. Even after we've seen the naked body, we still fall for the clothed girl because like...just look at the curves 😋 that's it.
@SarahAbramova
@SarahAbramova Жыл бұрын
@@99SIN fair point
@torijoan
@torijoan Жыл бұрын
I was going to comment wondering why it said uploaded 50 minutes ago when I know I saw the video in my feed yesterday. Man KZbin is stupid.
@NectereYT
@NectereYT Жыл бұрын
what in the world...its gone mad. The video was great yesterday and still is today. I look forward to your videos. Thank you.
@connieembury1
@connieembury1 Жыл бұрын
I would love to hear your ideas on Hieronymus Bosch's artworks! With your sense of humor it should be great fun!
@MATILDASHAX3834
@MATILDASHAX3834 Жыл бұрын
KEEP BRINGING THE ART HISTORY!! Your videos are Fantastic and Whimsical!! I cannot believe KZbin, but You MUST KEEP GOING!! FOR THE LOVE OF HISTORY, PLEASE KEEP GOING!!! #paintmorenudes
@Rye_Smile
@Rye_Smile Жыл бұрын
I'm very interested to know how hair was portrayed *negatively* in other paintings?? Would be super interested to learn more.
@llamasugar5478
@llamasugar5478 Жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t grown on the top of the head, it just wasn’t there. As if people aren’t hairy all over!
@michellebyrom6551
@michellebyrom6551 Жыл бұрын
In the past, hairless nether regions were a sign of paid women. No hair meant that they remained free of crabs. A hairy woman with the temerity to look directly at the viewer was 1, clearly in charge of the situation and 2, not a woman of ill repute. Women in possession of themselves and their own power has been seen as a threat to society for most of the past two thousand years, probably longer. The past century with its focus on Human Rights gas been an aberration in that sense.
@romana34
@romana34 Жыл бұрын
This painting kinda reminds me of the controversy that surrounded Manet’s Olympia. Great video
@israeldepedro7522
@israeldepedro7522 Жыл бұрын
Nobody expects KZbin's Inquisition.
@IntrepidFraidyCat
@IntrepidFraidyCat Жыл бұрын
Re-upload? KZbin gods must have been angered.🙄 Sorry you had to re do it. I really enjoyed it.👍🏻😀
@elenafrogwill8765
@elenafrogwill8765 Жыл бұрын
Okay, this is a bit creepy, we just talked about this painting in my art class😂 Edit: now that I watched the video, we talked about almost all of them, this is hilarious😂 But your video is so much more entertaining and informative
@TomSuntotheMax
@TomSuntotheMax Жыл бұрын
Goya is always fun - glad to see him getting attention.
@reenatai75
@reenatai75 Жыл бұрын
Good thing I watched the hidden version of this video yesterday 😁😁
@Eethkee
@Eethkee Жыл бұрын
This is an untimely work of art. In the past centuries nobody had any problem watching this painting, but freedom has gone so far that now KZbin has to cancel and blurr her breast. I miss how free I was in my youth.
@MattTee1975
@MattTee1975 Жыл бұрын
What? I can't believe the original was taken down. Geeeeeeeeeeeeez.
@Rod-dg7fy
@Rod-dg7fy Жыл бұрын
I seriously absolutely love your channel! I wish you had been my art history prof so many years ago.
@hoibsh21
@hoibsh21 Жыл бұрын
Goya's painting on a chain is where the phrase ""yank my chain"" comes from, tho I'm sure Goya yanked more than that when he revealed The Nude Maha.
@Ferret8185
@Ferret8185 Жыл бұрын
You keep belting these out. I feel like you are the modern-day Giorgio Vasari. How on earth can you find and tell so much personal history of the artist and their paintings? I can't wait to see every new video you put out. Your voice and sense of humor enhance your spectacular presentations. Thank you! I am so wowed!
@teresayeates3437
@teresayeates3437 Жыл бұрын
I had both versions years back. I had them in in smaller versions, about 15" long. I had them set on a table with the nude offset slightly behind the clothed one. Iliked them. Unfortunately visitors did not.
@starvingartistscollective
@starvingartistscollective Жыл бұрын
Your commentary and video editing are a phenomenal work of art! Concise, engaging and very, very clever!!
@origirox
@origirox Жыл бұрын
I would enjoy it more probably if there was a male counterpart participating in the presentation. 😏
@Lux_Lethal
@Lux_Lethal Жыл бұрын
I got the notification when you first released the video and then a couple hours later when I wanted to watch it, it was gone. I figured YT had some sort of issue with it. Wish I could've seen the original since I'm an adult for crying out loud. It's such BS since so many music videos are vulgar just for the sake of it, and YT allows that. But, you're actually educating your audience. What a double standard. YT need to stop with this crap. They're an embarrassment.
@Scriblyn
@Scriblyn Жыл бұрын
I love your editing so much
@Art_Deco
@Art_Deco Жыл бұрын
Thank youuu!
@peterlustig9089
@peterlustig9089 Жыл бұрын
wow, i know it's in other comments, but youtube just censored an 18th century painting, that even passed the spanish inquisition. way to go 2023...
@Unbounded7
@Unbounded7 Жыл бұрын
You gotta love the "just passing" memes from blue coffee
@TeaAndFloppyDisks
@TeaAndFloppyDisks Жыл бұрын
Goya saw things clearer than other people of his time and translated it very clearly in his art. It's good that he got away with pushing the envelope on his commissions like that too.
@Rompler_Rocco
@Rompler_Rocco Жыл бұрын
It wasn't offensive until KZbin defaced it.
@kirinrex
@kirinrex Жыл бұрын
When I was in junior high, many decades ago, I went on a school field trip to an art museum in the midwestern US, and someone at the museum had gone to all of the works of art that had nudity and used what looked like liquid paper (white-out correction fluid, basically like white paint) to cover the nudity. Even as a junior high students, I thought it was stupid to be so prudish, and was shocked that they had destroyed art because their puritanism couldn't handle the beauty of the human form. I'm shocked this is still a problem, where people can't recognize art.
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 Жыл бұрын
how to say your a horndog without actually a horndog
@shawnbehrens2294
@shawnbehrens2294 Жыл бұрын
Destroyed art? No. Preserved art. Puritanism? That’s a good one. I’ll tell my students that when the principal forces me to wear clothes. Dude get a grip! Is “recognise art” the new slang to replace getting ones rocks off?🙄 like ffs
@rduff1999
@rduff1999 Жыл бұрын
I doubt that the artwork was destroyed. They probably used resist (?), a liquid rubber that watercolourist use to protect some areas from being painted. You can paint over it and then ,when the painting is dry, the resist can be rubbed off revealing the protected area. Pax
@baliyae
@baliyae Жыл бұрын
When I went to open the video yesterday, it said it was private.
@martinisara
@martinisara Жыл бұрын
Pretty crazy that you can't show female body from a historical painting without censoring 😔
@florenmage
@florenmage Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with a hairy snatch. Some people would call that quite a catch.
@kniddelliz7512
@kniddelliz7512 Жыл бұрын
Such a fun painting to analyse! I remember writing a term paper on it in grad school.
@coreymcclownface5781
@coreymcclownface5781 Жыл бұрын
I know nothing about classical art, or anything academic about art,, but damn do I love how you break these things down and describe them. I can admire the artistic achievements of these artist while not knowing a single thing about art. I love your channel.
@imadnemeir9455
@imadnemeir9455 Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing KZbin puritans are worse than the Spanish inquisition, anyway Goya is my favorite painter, glad to see his work being covered in this channel.
@bitterlucy8212
@bitterlucy8212 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting that
@yourbestnightmare69420
@yourbestnightmare69420 Жыл бұрын
KZbin puritans are definitely not worse but they are still extremely flawed and have a lot more issues which go beyond simple censorship. I find it ironic how little this platform does to support its own creators....
@surfingmalsworld
@surfingmalsworld Жыл бұрын
For another video idea could you look into the primavera? I’m 14 and so interested in the history behind all of these paintings and the primavera interests me so much! Your videos have really opened up a new interest that I didn’t even know I had, so I would love to see you go in depth with that painting 🤍🤍
@AdventuresofaGeek
@AdventuresofaGeek Жыл бұрын
8:53 "one that's only a tug away" brilliant!
@mosespray4510
@mosespray4510 Жыл бұрын
I just want to say that I love your channel. Every video you make is a must see. Art history has never been more lively and pertinent. Thanks!
@TheFeralFarmgirl
@TheFeralFarmgirl Жыл бұрын
I'm loving how Ferdinand (?) is giving serious side eye in this video.
@pamallama
@pamallama Жыл бұрын
My sister teaches high school art and has to censor paintings for her students all the time just to be safe.
@donovanmedieval
@donovanmedieval Жыл бұрын
I saw them at the National Gallery of Art in Washington. They were put in a contraption that showed one while hiding the other.
@BigHenFor
@BigHenFor Жыл бұрын
KZbin's lost the plot. Stick with it, as I love your witty but informative approach!
@Superhero1in1Trainig
@Superhero1in1Trainig Жыл бұрын
Ok, the music/sound at 6:03 is perfect!
@laundrymatgirl2255
@laundrymatgirl2255 9 ай бұрын
This video is fantastic! The way you worded everything and your commentary is chef’s 💋 5/5 ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️⭐️🌟
@redroseabc5099
@redroseabc5099 Жыл бұрын
I hope Art Deco has the chance to bring up her own website with nothing but her original pictures on it. I’d still watch and support her for sure! 👋🏼🖥️🖼️
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