This Person Trash Talked My Vora But This Happened... | Paladins

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[@zbxnanasplxtz7035]

Ok people should know that flanks arent just to kill the support, there here to FLANK like the name says, aka getting behind someones back and try to kilk him, and that is not easy when the WHOLE DAMN TEAM IS TOGETHER

[@zhinthetyrant1508]

That's why I play drogoz on this map. You can get behinde enemies with no trouble and if you have the card rain of fire and the extra fewl card on lvl 5 you can fly for the entire game without touching the ground once and if you combine this with spitfire 3 you can pretty much spam your salvo, allowing you to deal some crazy dmg on point. Also I'd recomend having nimble maxed and cronos 2, because it's like 6 seconds of of salvos cooldown. But back to vora, yes she's kinda hard and extremly useless compared to drogoz. But with relentless presents you can still do decen. (By decent I mean do your f!ucking job and kill the healer and the dmg next. That's what flankers are made for.) I often see flankers acting like backline dmg and shooting tanks. Most often it's Maeve, Vora and Zhin, but what noone seems to understand is, that if you kill the healer and the dmg first, you'll have almoast no challenge in killing the tank.

[@zhinthetyrant1508]

Btw, I agree with you. Flankers aren't only there to kill the support, they should also kill the dmg and the enemie's flank and after that they should help to kill the tank as well. Thdy are also great for dismounting enemies so they take longer to get to the point. And yes, this seems as a pretty hard job, but if you have an offtank kahn helping you, this get's really fun trust me. One common mistake I still see, is that many flanks don't recive any heals from their healer if they retreted and that's sade, because healing is fr evryone and not only for the tank and backline. But what I also see pretty often, is flankers not retreting and instead pushing to the enemies spawn and dieing after getting 1 kill, and than they start blaming their healer for not healing.

[@zbxnanasplxtz7035]

@@zhinthetyrant1508 everything you said here is true 100%

[@zhinthetyrant1508]

@@zbxnanasplxtz7035 that kinda feels like you didn't even read it. 😂😅

[@zbxnanasplxtz7035]

@@zhinthetyrant1508 Read it all, and also abt he drogoz thing i really never tried it out bc i really hate playing drogoz

[@smxkeylight]

I mean getting stacks up is fine, farm on the raum really quick just to get stacks and that’s it, just because your a flank doesn’t mean the only thing they should do is kill support. People should know that. And you did kill the ying multiple times: people in this game a toxic af

[@christhiantrevisan8084]

For sure, they will always blame someone else for the loss

[@yiannku841]

btw a flanker's main job is not to kill the support, but to protect their tank. So, most of the times u have to draw the enemy dps attention on u so u relieve the pressure from your tank. The only case where u focus the enemy support is when it is furia exterminate and she is the one who mostly burns your tank

[@smgnewer3393]

It's horrible when you play flank when the ennemie backline had 2 support + dps

[@RIM.1207]

It s a nightmare !!!

[@Subject-032]

That's the problem with this game, when the enemy team is starting to get better, your teammates will blame you and tell you that you're trash even though you were trying your best... what a toxic mindset.

[@wowo1005]

Sheild nando hoping for flanks to carry him while he sits on point with right click up

[@GHST-km8cu]

"Thank you thank you, I will be here all week" lol

[@kingz8075]

This happened to me earlier i was vora trying to kill the enemy team damba and ying but our imani was calling me useless because she couldn't when a 1v1 against vatu and want me to prioritize all 3 of them. We lost of course but i had the most kills and damage

[@the_mexicanduck134]

Cool I was there in this live stream

[@christhiantrevisan8084]

As someone who gave a try to the character and fell in love with it, your videos are very encouraging and great to learn how to play her better

[@KirbZM]

That's good to hear!

[@Reverio...]

Literally the same exact thing happened to me to day.. I was playing Drogoz and Ash started trash talking for no reason.. blaming everyone but leaving everyone and going for flanking... She literally didnt do anything and she was bad.. Almost lost the game cuz of her... My stats were 26/8/11 with 125k dmg but she still kept continuing whats so ever

[@stellart2259]

This just sums up the flank experience sometimes, doesn't it? The fact that they flamed you even after you got the point has me stunned. Some players are just toxic as hell.

[@christiandellipaoli2991]

i hate when i'm vora and someone says "you're a flank, so go kill support" YEAH, SO EASY WHEN THE SUPPORT IS BETWEEN ALL THE TEAM :)

[@ricard0mil0s80]

I hate it when I am support because my team is all gone and doesn't protect me meanwhile I have to 1v2 damage and get called trash because I can't heal

[@breademperoar9613]

If you’re team is doing their job then I don’t see a problem with this. Flanking is hard but you did sign up for it

[@christiandellipaoli2991]

@@breademperoar9613 ik that it is my job but, for example, if i have 2 tanks in my team, maybe the off point tank should flank with me so i can do better with a little help

[@breademperoar9613]

@@christiandellipaoli2991 I did say if you’re team is doing their job, in that case, the off tank is going with you

[@yiannku841]

Why everyone thinks the flank should focus support while it is the damage and tank's job? flanker must focus the one who is shredding their tank, aka the damage dealer or a support dps like furia exter or grohk mael

[@zhinthetyrant1508]

Hey KirbMZ I know this sounds stupide becsuse you had the highest dmg, but your teammates were right sometimes because you were often shooting the tanks, which isn't your job as a flank. I know you did good and you also killed koga, Octavia and ying, but they probabyl just saw you farming the tanks which really is the job of kinessa and your tank. Also this furia was playing dmg if I saw rhis correctly so you had enought dmg for you to go flank. Besides that, if you played like an off-tank, and you had a better dmg like Viktor (i know, booh noob champion...) or a Tyra, Imani. Anything that can help on the point, instead of kinessa. Cus double healer double tank (mostly Kahn as off-tank) with a strong dmg on point and no flank wins the game 95%

[@bubbagrayer4283]

It’s funny when your team doesn’t push the point and you are a flank trying to fight 3 people and your team says to report you. Love the game some people are just the worst

[@bebsmiec8960]

Actually, you should have told them earlier that you're gonna do dmg, no flank. This way your team could engage other person to do the flanking. In these situations, I always tell to my team that I do dmg when I play fe. support :) and you avoid mad fernando...

[@the_mexicanduck134]

As always you upload at the best time I just got some food to eat

[@guardianlionheart8384]

you make me want to play paladins again, even though i know i won't be able to do what you do.

[@yiannku841]

tbh u focused the tanks too much and let octavia burn your tank (nando), but u needed another player to come flank with u, preferably furia. In elo higher than gold its almost impossible to have only 1 guy flanking a well coordinated 3 person backline

[@corystrickland5220]

Well his talent wasn’t good for escape and they had a kinessa and he created well enough space for the sniper to take out the healer

[@wizardsmix7961]

Uhm lmfao no? He can easily just take top right high ground alone and he would be fine. He's just bad at Vora.

[@redc0ffee734]

Bad comp in the first place, furia *cough*. Off tank koa or inara is the play. Also I couldn’t agree more you should’ve played flank like a little harder, you don’t need to dive backline just a distraction from here and there could’ve work magic.

[@dmitrijzubanic994]

I remember playing koga and not dying even 1 time killing everything I see when i can. My team called me a coward for not dying just cuz we lost lol even though i did get the most kills and damage SMH

[@zackt7831]

Not me laughing at this in stream and laughing now as well😂

[@bubbledarling9411]

Will you be streaming when the new champion Rei comes out?

[@KirbZM]

I either make a video about Rei or stream it :3

[@dr.fingers8900]

Good vid man keep up the good work!!

[@KirbZM]

Thanks!

[@Aceswolf]

Need more Toxic people exposed bro do more ;-)

[@breademperoar9613]

It’s fun to find a toxic person lol, it makes the game interesting imo. “Please help with flank pls, tq

[@KiranFane]

Omer chan coming in near the end....

[@RIM.1207]

Easy to say "go kill ying alone" .... When you play sniper far of danger 🤣🤣🤣

[@-nev3rending-342]

YESSSS ANOTHER ONE!!!

[@hatsunemitski880]

its always the fernando players

[@Rigby-fn6pf]

You played so well in the stream and I was just relaxing watching the stream. I didn't send a message in live chat tho good video.

[@KirbZM]

I appreciate it!

[@panda-3268]

This was fun to watch in stream

[@jul14nc8]

That seris was jesuscrist (how ironic) XD

[@gerardotarifaskorpian]

I think they should have gone with another character other than Kinessa or Furia for greater aggressiveness, I don't know, a Tyra, and a second tank, like a Khan or a Makoa to accompany Fernando

[@Hades-vVpZ]

7:46 Stepbro... :V

[@mxcrmm]

For me unyielding pressure is her best talent I can play aggressive with it but I suck when I play relentless presence😭

[@isazainal778]

I was too busy looking at chat that one of them ask your Italian and speak Spanish lmao 🤣 deep down I know your Filipino

[@eljhonv4308]

you're the best

[@ttvshaydy4086]

This just happened to me... same when I played vora.. it got so bad that I havnt touched her since...

[@ufukozdemir405]

Don’t pick flank if you can’t flank. Fernando is right.

[@JhonRicaurte]

Tbh the real problem was the the double healer composition. I mean, you are losing dmg potential with it and getting a lot of healing it just in early game. Right now in the actual meta is much better to go with a double tank, since they can do even more dmg than a natural dmg or even a double flank would be better for this match since you were the main dps and kinnessa had no a good way to do dmg

[@prashamohan8379]

Good game tho

[@dastimlein]

I agree with you, you played very well. But: 1. sometimes teams are equal but one has to win 2. In 22 min game Kinessa should habe done more... 3. your damage is good but for real: you have to kill the sups or dmg dealer. thats why you really lost. they shielded too much and ying died only 6 times so my 4. sometimes you have to agree that it could be your own fault.

[@prashamohan8379]

This man has over watch but desires to play paladins

[@KirbZM]

Just bc i have Overwatch doesn't mean i have to play it over Paladins :3

[@darkgriffinllama]

Usually i just dont care what toxic people say and then i still go and have fun even if they start attacking me and its so funny to see them trying to offend me lol

[@KirbZM]

Same, usually i just let them talk XD

[@xprodigy1x674]

Damn

[@randomplayer6082]

Wait you stream man ?

[@zagred7664]

Same happened to me the other day. Carried the match 32/7/15 and still they said at the end, no flank, useless Buck... Wtf? Paladins nowadays is full of toxic players.

[@9895_]

It's not just toxic, it's that half of them have been playing for years and still don't know half of what they are doing, but they flame you based on the knowledge they think they have

[@mrtechno9172]

Report him for being toxic so he can get ban from hi rez

[@callmespeed7979]

btw dont take this as kinda like a toxic comment just some positive feedback, ur stacks uasge inst that great because remember max stacks siphon is cripple but max stacks obliterate is more dmg and most of the time u shudve used obliterate and u shud spam out ur dark siphon a lot more as it is gud complementary healing

[@corystrickland5220]

Lol no you really he cripple Hong and barik and Koga as well as raum who all have escapes that allow them to get away easily just cause you get more damage doesn’t make it better they literally just dodge the damage

[@kiro_2484]

Yes you farmed a lot of dmg on tanks, but honestly that's what you should do since you picked the dmg talent, you can't flank very well with all the team in the backline and without the double tendril

[@wizardsmix7961]

gold rank opinion right here

[@ullasjs7394]

I'm from India helo

[@KirbZM]

Hey there!

[@michaeltrost9048]

most dmg is not a good argu , same argue goes from 12 year old ow kiddos :Pin your case you did a good job ,according to the setup , you got a fernando and i bet he hasnt buy heal reduction as the only assist in the frontline ...just having one flanker with and 3/5 range team , will lead for more def playstyle , if you had the oppor ,you go for ying , but running in the front solo ,with a good enemy team , you will burn into the focus fire the whole match ...you could done a lot more in a close fight setup team , close fight always spread the dmg , and the focus prior which leads in much more options for you to getting close to that far away healer ...anyway iam just not fine with the argue i did most of the dmg so i did a good job , speaking as da comment for nearly anyone , cause you can deal alot of dmg and still do shit ... any dmg ,which doesnt save the kill or lead to a kill , is wastet dmg ...hitting a big lame tank over and over again ,will stick your dmg enorm high ...one of my best matches was about 50k dmg , while everyone else reach 90-100k ...but i did the most kills with my record of 20 solo kills and two assists , while the 100k guys where about 7-10 kills ...you always need to compare ...for me the best indicator at all is the credit you get :P except for lex maybe

[@redoxcruiser9250]

I agree, I don't get the most dmg argument too. Its like the same thing with overwatch and gold medals. Your gold medals and most dmg don't matter, what matters is that u win or lose.

[@Wolverine_onYTTV]

He farmed damage on raum. Total damage means nothing in this situation

[@onelonleyhuman1720]

Sure, however he did have 23 kills, which was far higher than anybody else in the match

[@yiannku841]

yes but octavia had a free game, only contested by kinessa

[@CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe]

Damn salty sues Also play overwatch ranked to feel true pain

[@KirbZM]

No thanks 😂

[@CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe]

@@KirbZM why not it's for the fans

[@theanglomc7745]

Hola :)

[@KirbZM]

heyya ^^

[@beegend]

Well it’s confirmed that flanking is the hardest job in the game (I mean support is goddamn hard too)

[@DallasBrownridge]

I stream paladins too : how do i get more people to my streams?

[@KirbZM]

Personally i didn't start streaming till i got enough viewers on my vids,. i just posted vids since i enjoy it ^^

[@tracersigil7324]

For me vora are the best champ if u know how to use her... Those juicy execute.... Ehmmmmm....

[@KirbZM]

Haha hell yea!

[@byvopros7288]

Are u mad ?)

[@KirbZM]

Nah XD

[@closeenough1343]

Wow, so this is where sniper vora came from. People need to stop filling roles and going awol. You farmed damage from raum. What a huge let down. A flanks role is to flank. Not tank or stay bundled with your team taking heals from your tank and other damage. You severely hi dered your team and its 100% why you lost. All you did was make raum and barik look like pros because you made their job EASY by letting them know where you were 100% of the time. Being a good flank isnt about damage or kills. Its about impact and disruption. The enemy knows where you are allowing the enemy backline to rest and do as they wish and thats why your team lost. Because you didnt flank. I cant believe you didnt notice how big of an impact you made when you did actually flank. It was huge and then you went back to fighting tanks. Yeah id be pissed to have a sniper vora on my team as im KINESSA. that happened to me recently too, sniper vora as im kinessa. Idiots i swear. You should have just picked tyra or someshit. So that way the team doesnt rely on your "flank".

[@heugi_j]

wow people still play this game? lol

[@prashamohan8379]

Paladins a good game but cmon it’s an over watch rip off