This Premium Folding Knife Refuses to Rust: Quiet Carry Waypoint

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[@The_Great_Whodini]

I just found one of my waypoints after 10 months. It was in a wetland and I was going back to a property corner I staked last year, it was half buried in moss. I picked it up, brushed off the loose dirt, and it opened just as smooth as before, no corrosion, held an edge. Today was a good day.

[@dionysus6892]

I think what brings me back to Pete's reviews is the honesty and real use. He doesn't mind using this 300 dollar knife to cut up vegetables or open worm bags. He seems to always say what he thinks which is great, for as fun as BladeHQ and similar channels are, you know they can't sit there and say "yeah I thought the action on this sucked and the blade was thicker then Shikira's thighs and couldn't cut anything." Because then the company will get pissed at them, same with a lot of videos where the knife was supplied by the manufacturer. Pete is entertaining more then I think he gives himself credit for. He might have a very dry humor but I find myself smiling and giving a small laugh, which is more then what can be said for a lot of "here is the knife on the table, I am talking about the knife" channels.

[@thomagg]

I enjoy his videos for the same reasons. As someone who has a problem hoarding knives but also uses them regularly for work and around the house, I like the fact that they are tested in practical use as opposed to, this slices that printer paper like a mofo, or just speculating based on a visual inspection.

[@arrowheadguys7637]

Yeah, its always good to keep in mind which channels are selling the knives they talk about and which channels are buying the knives they talk about. Pete and Advanced Knife Bro are my go-to's for knife content. Table top vids can kick rocks.

[@bennyc409]

@@arrowheadguys7637 they're my favourite two as well. And of course the DBK bois when it comes to fixed blades.

[@bennyc409]

His reviews are an easy watch too. You don't feel like you're being yelled at, like with MC for instance.

[@knoxknifemods]

@@bennyc409 yeah I can’t stand to listen to MC very long for that reason. Also his clickbaiting thumbnails drive me nuts

[@petric334]

Really appreciated the detailed description of dog shits. The shape, the size, various comparisons to food items. I've been struggling properly immerse myself in the reality of the shits my dogs make. Now I feel slathered in the understanding of them, and I thank you.

[@edsaunders1897]

Great review Pete. Careful about composting dog & cat poop - should be fine for flowers & trees, but I wouldn't suggest adding it to a vege garden. Those black compost bins don't get hot enough to kill pathogens. Cat poop can be especially problematic - watch out for toxoplasmosis! I do compost my dog poop, but in a much bigger pile that gets really hot, and even then I only use it on trees, not veges. Sorry for the lecture - I hate being that guy! But I don't want you or your family getting ill!

[@CedricAda]

No no by all means my journey in compost is only beginning, thank you truly for the advice re the poop. I was always wondering why it wasnt more widelt done but this does make sense!

[@eyeofthetiger4184]

G'day Ed, you beat me to it. To my knowledge; meat and poo from meat eaters is no good. Btw; I've found over the years driving and removing a stake into the core of the heap, thus providing an air hole, helps speed the process; several times is even better. Cheers Duke.

[@BOOSTEDLASER]

@@CedricAda IS THIS "SLICEY" AND THIN? WONDER WHY NOBODY IS USING VANAX YEARS LATER

[@xyliss]

Quiet Carry's website states that they're manufactured in Taiwan with some processes like finishing and heat treating done in the US.

[@kerramybeth]

The whole time you were opening the packages of firewood I kept looking and going there's a pull tab there's a pull tab but where's the fun in that

[@TrustNoOne88]

The inventor of pull tabs must of had a Medford 😏

[@CNYKnifeNerd]

What are you even doing on knifeyoutube if you use pull tabs??

[@danko5002]

Must be new round here

[@admiraljosh]

As someone for whom this IS their: "one knife", I've been looking forward to this. I've got small hands, so ergos are perfect for me (finger fits in hole). Glad to see the Vanax/blade geo held up well in the cut test! Awesome review, as usual. Cheers! P.S. I think they got some heat about being unclear on country of origin when these first came out. They updated their site a while ago: made in Taiwan.

[@aksela6912]

"Finger fits in hole", that's what, oh, whatever… if it fits it fits

[@lindboknifeandtool]

Good on you man. I can’t stop. 🤣

[@aksela6912]

Ergonomics has never been a big concern for me, the knife spends 99% of its time in my pocket anyway, so I bit the bullet and ordered a Waypoint. Congratualations, Quiet Carry.

[@robreadinger5340]

Love the eloquent mixing of the spoon upside down 🥄

[@Heizenberg32]

This is serendipitously timed with the Practical Engineering KZbin channel's video on the cost of corrosion

[@lindboknifeandtool]

That’s such a great channel. Best explanation of heat treating on KZbin.

[@zepferpferecto1812]

the best livevlog I've ever seen! thank You!

[@claytonburgess6066]

I did an HRC test on my Waypoint, and it was at 60. Your assumption was spot-on!

[@barkingspider2007]

Wish the HRCl was 63-64 range : ) Thanks for the information.

[@chriswebb3018]

@@barkingspider2007 vanax can't reach 63-64 and if it was ht that hard somehow then it wasn't done properly and performance would decline. It's a very hard steel to ht, meaning it's finicky and needs to be done absolutely perfect to get the most out of it. 61 hrc is about where you want it to be and possibly 62 if someone knew a custom ht protocol from working with it alot. Overall 60-61 is a great ht from Peter's ht where these knifes are said to be done at. If you were to find a knife made in the states with all the same premium materials QC uses with a custom ht on vanax it would cost double to triple the price so I think they are providing a good knife if this is the type of knife you like.

[@markadyes1807]

@@chriswebb3018 Vanax can reach almost 62 before tempering. 61.5 ish If you have one at 62 after tempering the nitrogen is likely cook out and the corrosion performance is no longer there. The mill has confirm Vanax is not suppose to hit 62. 60 (post tempering) HRC is what the mill HT them at with a specific protocol for the best corrosion resistance and wear.

[@SliceOLife]

Really like the more fleshed out side by side shots along other knives. Really well done, keep that up. I know it's a lot more work but it helps us understand the size.

[@SOMNIOHM]

😮12:37 Indeed, I did!!!

[@saintofchelseathomascarlyl5713]

you should do hot compost berkley method make a cubic meter pile and every 2 days move it to 1 side it will turn into soil in 14 days edit: i did it once with just leaves and some straw that rabbits peed on from my neighbour (my neighbour was happy to get rid of it) it got steamy inside no smell and turned into beautiful black soil that i used to make a small wheat field in 14 days it was amazing how fast the leaves were unrecognizable and i recommend youtube tutorials

[@ActionBastard666]

Lmfaooo when you drank it God this is why I love your videos brother I had this knife for a while. I did enjoy it but I felt at times that it was going to snap on me more toward the tip. Nice and thin/slices great. Very cool knife

[@mzeusk13]

Tnx Pete, wasn't in doubt but it's nice to see a rust test for Vanax. Roman sent me Vivalranger in Vanax, what a craftmanship, very pleased. Cheers! Btw bcs of your edge ret. tests I ordered Turbo and Shrad in S390.

[@kknives_switzerland]

Thanks ;)

[@tombrown4683]

Liked the scoring. Felt the 8/10 was fair, especially the value rating ( cause vanax & cut test). For me it would need to be 99% perfect at $300 U.S. I already have folders that are 95% or more perfect for $45 - $100. Puppies are 10/10 rated.

[@tombrown4683]

@Archie Baldwin you did see the young canines, recent additions to the Pete & Tree household, didn't you ? And yes auto co-wrecks can be very annoying !

[@terrynelson2464]

They are 300.00 in the video he keeps saying 350.00

[@CNYKnifeNerd]

I've owned hundreds and hundreds of knives from

[@profesorEDC]

Still and after all this time you make some of the best reviews out there Pete, with your very particular way. Thank you for the effort and for all of this time.😁🙏👍

[@quinnwarman5139]

Hey Pete when u get pineapple with the tops still on them you can grow them just chop em off with a little bit of yellow flesh with it put it in a dry part of the garden give it a bit of water when u first plant it and next 12 to 18 months you will have your own pineapple

[@mrdarren1045]

Man, your pets are so cute. I wish so much I lived on a ground floor with a garden and I could get myself a little lab puppy. Cause they are just the cutest things ever created. And very smart dogs as well.

[@sweetdrahthaar7951]

Great looking doggos Pete. Thanks for the video 👍🏻

[@ryanjennings6541]

My Drift has been my go to blade. The more I use it the more vanax impresses me. Especially after my new edge layed the edge back a bit. That steel is excellent !

[@thomagg]

Great video as usual! I enjoy your honest take on everything and showing them used in real world practical tasks, as opposed to so many that consist of, this knife is awesome, because… it’s pretty!? In regard to CRK moving to Magnacut, I recently contacted customer service about ordering a new blade, and they informed me they are projecting to have the shop converted completely to Magnacut by the end of the year. Also, all too familiar with onion tainted food

[@PoetFisherman]

I scored one a few weeks ago and have really been enjoying it as a light carry fishing knife. Echoing others who have reviewed it, sharpen it right away. The factory edge was burned and crumbled fairly easily.

[@SHADOW-ke6xz]

I'm having my morning coffee laughing at the puns 🤣

[@budaflash]

Great review! "microtech fanbase salty" had me rollin

[@mcsquirgle]

The quiet carry waypoint and the tactile knife company rockwall both give me rat 2 vibes in a good way. I have owned one of the g10 versions of the waypoint in the past and once I realized that I could not unsee it. Pete id really like to see a Buck 124 Frontiersman review on this channel someday. There arent too many reviews on that particular knife on youtube at this point and I really think it has potential to be a knife you would like. It has a full tang unlike the other stick tang fixed blades that Buck has

[@davidkinninger0164]

Make sure you keep us updated on them dogs we want to see them grow we know they'll be happy.

[@ccoop2416]

Love all your videos

[@wattsmichaele]

The Microtech joke was excellent!!!

[@channelwonnews4322]

Pete that was hilarious ! I was laughing for about a minute straight 10:55 !!!!

[@Fire_And_Iron]

I’ve made a few knives from Vanax Superclean and I’m quite happy with it’s performance.

[@wtfmrb293]

Never gonna own a expensive folder again. All Opinel now. And cheap Mora and Hultafors knifes. And a Grenfors axe and a small saw. Just about all you need

[@DullPoints]

What made you change? Did you lose one?

[@wtfmrb293]

@@DullPoints lol no I didn’t. It’s just all hype right. Almost all new flippers has this tactical vibe about them. Not a big fan of tactical stuff. I’m not a military guy. Or anything like it. More a bushcraft dude. I like spyderco but now I don’t think they are worth it

[@John.VanSwearingen]

patina bros hate him

[@joshthompson3508]

Loved the microtech joke 😂

[@starkparker16]

600 cuts is years for city people

[@brandonlind5700]

Great video!!

[@gmorel1916]

Figured I’d chime in with my Quiet Carry story… or maybe nightmare is more appropriate. Bought a G10 Drift when they came out (liked the look and the Ti version doesn’t have lefty carry). I must’ve got a lemon because boy howdy out of the box it was awful. The head from one of the scale screws was broken off in the box, the backspacer rattled like crazy even though the screws were tight, and it was crazy off center. So I emailed them and they promptly emailed me back and told me I was lying and their machining was too good for the backspacer to rattle and just didn’t acknowledge the broken screw. So went back and forth and sent pictures as they told me I was fabricating my issues. After a whole lot of arm twisting they finally took the knife back… and charged me a restocking fee to boot. All that being said, I’ve come across two other people with the same sort experience with their customer service. If you get a good one out of the box they seem like great knives. If you get a bad one, prepare to deal with nightmarish customer “service”

[@samuraijaydee]

Your dogs are so cute 😍

[@neok1945]

Wait, was that Chrono Trigger's music? Ok i'm subscribing rn

[@Youtube-Censorship-Police]

12:20 sog to the quietcarry: c'mon bud give me some nitrogen, it hurts so bad!😭 quietcarry: love me a relaxing brine bath!😎

[@WillEDC]

15:42 that’s the irony. As you get more exotic materials that perform better the price goes up which in turn means you are less likely to use that knife. So what’s the point 🤣

[@TheRif33]

Looks like a skyline

[@woodcock21s]

already laughing and i haven’t even started the video yet lol

[@j.hardesty446]

This is like Microtech making knives in China fan base saltiness 😭😂

[@cyphersuit1]

Review scores? Nice!!!

[@akhoundog907]

I'm sure this has been over stated but I'm envious of your lifestyle. BTW my stonewash/stonewash waypoint is a favorite. i though the tactile rockwall in magnacut would dethrone it but that didn't happen

[@wethotgrass]

What made you stick with the QC?

[@akhoundog907]

@@wethotgrass it has washers, it feels better in hand (to me), it's hollow ground and i like the pocket clip better. my Rockwall has some QC issues and doesn't slice nearly as well.

[@richardhenry1969]

Nice looking knife. I personally don't see any reason to buy a $300 knife. Unless that's your thing. To me I have many knives my favorite are in the $50-100 range. Another thing in my experience as a diesel mechanic. I find tools you use everyday don't rust. I'm more a user then collector my only knife that has rusted was a D2 kershaw. My many coldsteel knives have never rusted. An one of those is in my pocket always. My other observation 14c28n will hold its ground with any of these fancy steels. I still enjoy your opinion and your crazy humor.

[@bigjohn3038]

Hey Pete, enjoyed the review as always! However, everything I have read says QC Manufacture in Taiwan? I won't have PRoC Knives in my beloved collection so I hope the you are off Target just for once?!?..... 👀

[@krazmokramer]

Nice video Pete. Ending was great! Those puppies are so cute. That knife design looks much more mundane than the majority of knives you review. While that blade is impressive, the handle is boring, to say the least. But then, I'm a guy who just ordered a Ganzo G7211 in 440C ($26 USD delivered), so who am I to criticize. I was hoping to see you cook off those taters and onions. My favorite way to fix taters! Weird to see you in a hoodie now. I realize it is colder now in Australia, but it is 102F here in Kansas USA. Stay well Pete and Family!!

[@arrowheadguys7637]

Cheers from Missouri, neighbor! This heat is gawdawful...

[@krazmokramer]

@@arrowheadguys7637 Agreed! I can handle the heat. It's the high humidity and lack of wind that is killing me. Kansas is known for it's wind, but it ain't blowing now. Stay cool!! How bout them CHIEFS!!!!

[@arrowheadguys7637]

@@krazmokramer Its been a brutal summer so far. Gotta love them CHIEFS!!!

[@mmikee407]

Yes winter time down under. Still couple of months to go and we will start roasting in the Aussie summer heat

[@jackbax8514]

Hi love you and your videos. Would you include links to the knives you are showcasing? Sometimes I can’t find a source for further exploration. Thank you!

[@dougbulldog9947]

Gardeners Tip: add Dolomite Lime or garden Lime to compost, blood and bone is good but dogs sniff it out and eat it

[@Kholaslittlespot1]

Dig those worms in lower maybe? Had no idea you could use cat shit. Good for you. Might prefer to use my own shit. I'll stick to canna Vega bio for now 😅

[@kennymattson574]

Reminds me of the Kershaw skyline.

[@darryljuice9058]

I’ve always wondered: what’s your day job? Kind of a nose-y question, but I feel that this knowledge would be a crucial piece of the puzzle that is Pete. A riddle hidden in a paradox, wrapped in an enigma… or something like that.

[@peteg22397]

I can't think why but I've got a feeling he's a paramedic or something like that. Unless I'm getting confused with his wife. Can't remember...

[@Luk3d411]

@@peteg22397 I think he has, at one time or another, suggested he’s some sort of first responder.

[@LisaInTheSkyMU]

@@peteg22397 Tree is a nurse and has said in previous videos, Pete has said he has a first responder type role but doesn’t elaborate too much 😊

[@peteg22397]

@@LisaInTheSkyMU cool, thanks for the info

[@mrbigberd]

I want to see a review of the FAMOUS Ginsu knives....

[@BradGryphonn]

When the dozen Opinel No8s I have are worn out I may invest in one... ;o)

[@anthonycampos7417]

I've noticed the more knives I use and carry, I hate thin knives. I'm not talking bladestock thickness but I'm talking scale width and height. If it at least isn't at least ½” thick, ¾" tall (large chamfers and contouring are a big plus) and at least a 4" blade, I immediately lose interest in it because at that point for my hands you are sacrificing ergonomics for aesthetics. Like you said, you are trying to find a balancing point of compactness to fit more items in it's shared pocket against general usability and comfort. I was at that point until I realized I wouldn't have those same restrictions if I just moved the knife into a pocket of its own so now I just right-hand back pocket carry all my knives and it's one of the best things I've ever done.

[@mmikee407]

The problem is you would rarely find a knife with thick nice handles and thin slicey blades. It doesn’t work for tolerance so it’s not only about carrying the knife. Thin handles mean thin blade stock if you care for that, otherwise if thin blade stock isn’t a prerequisite so the entire knives world is yours 😂

[@anthonycampos7417]

@@mmikee407 proper grind is honestly more important than overall bladestock. Only knife I have in my collection that goes against what you are saying is my Cherburkov Kasataka. 0.61" thick titanium framelock knife with only one side having carbonfiber contoured scale, 4.45" full flat blade of M390 that comes down to an extremely thin edge comparable to that of a kitchen knife. It's difficult to find more pieces like this but I'm always on the lookout

[@mmikee407]

@@anthonycampos7417 👍🏼Killer Whale. It's a Juggernaut knife. Exellent geometry and very tall blade and full flat grind.

[@jooky5]

Keep circle-y going!

[@OzMan9989]

How many poisonous spiders do you run into out there? Love your channel.

[@k_9158]

You should try the a8 mod steel that haakonsen knifes does, that steel is amazing

[@DrJuice1]

The difference is that the water on the right is potable while the left is not.

[@MattieXMoto]

Hi there. Have you done a serrated edge test lately? I can't recall ever seeing that and since you cut mostly rope, wouldn't serrations help?

[@cloudcleaver23]

I just can't get jazzed about liner locks and thumb studs anymore.

[@knoxknifemods]

Oh lord, Pete’s slicing cheese with a hollow grind again. Lol thanks for another great review man. The Quiet Carry lineup sure is handsome but they’ve never had that x-factor for me. By the way what’s the opening song on this one from?

[@CedricAda]

the theme of Tantal from the game Xenoblade Chronicles 2, night then day theme

[@knoxknifemods]

@@CedricAda thanks! I’ve never played any of the Xeno games, need to correct that

[@lindboknifeandtool]

@@CedricAda did you get a shot at breath of the wild? It’s beautiful.

[@awaywardman1707]

I just got the Lionsteel T6 in K490. Only 999 made. Will you get to review one?

[@kerryrwac]

I like the Quiet Carry Drift's design better (the thumb stud version). Whether it's different enough from your TRM Neutron to justify the 250.00, i don't know.

[@mdubb4855]

From batoning to broccoli stalks.

[@DBHHellhound]

What is your opinion on Vanax compared to Magnacut. I made my own Magnacut Bugout Reblade and heat treat it to 64.5 HRC.

[@jeo1349]

Pete, are you wearing Ugz FFS mate ? 😆😝

[@Mpafanai46]

Why didn't use vinegar, salt and hydrogen peroxide mixture to test corrosion resistance? My thoughts thank you.

[@Abby_Normal_1969]

Hi, Pete. Have you ever lost count? When I do repetitive tasks my mind usually wanders pretty quickly.

[@Lieu10antDan]

Needs a bit more Kapara but the shan't and shit made up for it. :-)

[@EricBrownWins]

I was worried that I wouldn't hear any Chrono Trigger music and you wouldn't get a "like" click from me until about 12:45 ish

[@kevinvogler2380]

As a non-salty microtech fan, the salty microtech fan comment had me rolling

[@r1w3d]

Price and amount of cuts vs S90V from spyderco (like my sprint run carbon fiber Native Chief) i personally feel like my spyderco is "better". Being that it looks good, cuts extremely well especially while cooking, and literal every day carry. People think its massive but i have fairly large hands so it looks like a mid size folder in my hand. I get some knife prices because i have custom knives but sometimes a production that cost much less make me more happy. For instance my Tops Prather War Bowie is my absolute favorite outdoor knife but is far from being expensive in my eyes.

[@lindboknifeandtool]

I have the same native chief, it’s amazing. For a linerless knife, carbon fiber is literally the perfect material (or laterally😉), the thin stabby spear point blade from S90v is everything you could ask for. Although I’d prefer k390 or Rex, it’ll look the same for its whole life. I’ll probably give it a regrind. I think this company makes its money off yuppie, apple laptop, type 20 somethings. It’s a cool package. I’m thinking about trying to make a line of rust proof knives to compete with these companies.

[@r1w3d]

@@lindboknifeandtool A line of rust proof knives would be great. Just saw the Timascus pocket clip on your Chief and it looks awesome 👍 S90V was a new steel to me and felt like a new learning curve over Elmax, 204P, and M390. Trying to get a keen edge kept leaving a crazy burr that i couldn't get rid of. I ended up changing the apex and used much less pressure on a red then green DMT then used my .2 micron strop (im weird and free hand sharpen my knives). I've gotten use to sharpening S90V and it holds a fantastic edge but i do think it holds a better working edge when it isn't pollished.

[@lindboknifeandtool]

@@r1w3d thanks man! Much appreciated! I also freehand and had the same experience. Stubborn burr. I try to get as small of a burr as I can on a coarse diamond plate, then remove the burr with edge trailing strokes on a fine diamond plate. A couple swipes with 10 micron diamond paste to finish. Definitely a different steel to sharpen. I just think the toughness being close to D2 at 60-62 hrc is crazy.

[@ajhoward8888]

Hey Pete. Your dogs are stupid cute. That is all.

[@CSGraves]

Vanax isn't going to give off that beef jerky smell when you cut pineapple like carbon steels will. BOO!

[@markod7662]

Your "one" knife?!?!?!? Will you sell the whole collection?

[@DEATHMETALRUST]

Do you like the Quiet Carry better than the Spydiechef?

[@arrowheadguys7637]

Doesn't sound like it.

[@oneshotpete6.591]

Today we’ll discuss the waypoint knife and some dog shit in between …

[@randyf.9188]

I returned mine for some of the same reasons and no transparency of origin.

[@admiraljosh]

They manufacture in Taiwan.

[@joshnairn8890]

Which cuts better trm atom or waypoint?

[@tomwebster6747]

I believe they are comparable steels given that Pete said Vanax cut like M390. Since 20CV is an analog to M390, it’s roughly the same cutting ability. Of course, always depends upon the grind and blade geometry.

[@justdoinmything]

What music did u use

[@Ike32]

My brother in rust...

[@totesmalotes]

So I’ve gotten Vanax to rust by pairing it with titanium in salt water (galvanic corrosion). Is there a chance you can submerge the whole knife in salt water to see what corrodes first. Just asking in case you ever feel like it. Thank you.

[@arrowheadguys7637]

The irony of using two completely stain-resistant materials to make a knife that corrode due to the other's proximity...

[@arrowheadguys7637]

@@Naftoor What I'm saying is it would be really easy to avoid...if the manufacturer didn't use two stain resistant materials that have a poor reaction to each other under conditions that would rust a blade. Like, what's the point?

[@arrowheadguys7637]

@@Naftoor Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. Look at the Spyderco Caribbean for a good example of how not to waste stain resistant materials.

[@tacticalcenter8658]

I'll never buy a quiet carry again after the pos I got from them with the gen1 drift. Horrible horrible out of the box and poorly designed. China probably heat treats the microtech knives better than microtech can. Show knives for people who like to spend money on jewelry. Regardless the video was done exceptionally well.

[@BrentonCarr]

microtech burn...ouch. Pour some of that saltwater in thier wound too.

[@JohnClausen]

Is the music in this video from Nier?

[@CedricAda]

close! xenoblade but similar vibes for sure

[@DinoNucci]

RoaR

[@Acuteknife]

Microtech making knives in China fan base salty is how my mom cooks.

[@clintwestwood3539]

Hi, can I ask you to test MKM mikro/makro m390 edge retention? I really like the knives, but I saw that the HRC is around 58/59, I’d like to know how “worse” it is as far as performance goes. It’d be really cool if you could do that since you are my go to guy as far as reliable source and knowledge goes. Thanks, wish you a good weekend!

[@nopenope7088]

YOU LOST ALL YOUR SOULS

[@jerrymcgovern4848]

So salty those fans.

[@zepferpferecto1812]

#tsprof ахуенно, мужики, ворлдвайд!

[@tacticoolkid4957]

Cute uggs btw

[@samnero387]

The groomer sweatshirt for the L.

[@The4cp]

He doesn't l need kitchen knives!

[@unknownriderinbound]

Blah, blah, knaf stuff, blah blah, PUPPIES!