This Rose | episode 16 | Owen Farrell makes history!

It's a team sport, played by individuals. Owen Farrell's role as England's captain and goalkicker means the spotlight is always on - and it has been shining brighter than ever as he has closed in on the points scoring record set by England icon Jonny Wilkinson.
This week's episode takes you into the team dressing room after Saturday's win against Samoa as Owen talks about what breaking the record means to him, and his team-mates and coaches discuss his influence and impact on the squad.
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[@tjrugbymuscle]

If you listen to what every player (O’Connell, Sexton, AWJ and countless others) say about Farrell you’ll hear nothing but positives for how he carries himself as an athlete. England are lucky to have him.

[@robertwelsh6878]

Well said!!!

[@peterbreen3039]

Sure ‘ carries himself like an athlete’ Other players say ‘ test animal…. Leader on on the pitch’ But who ever says : great pass, so powerful, what pace, brilliant footwork etc ? Nobody ever. He is a donkey and definitely since 2019 we are worse when he plays and significantly worse when he is captain. Nobody ever plays well inside or outside him, He carries zero threat and his presence appears to have a toxic effect on the team. Players won’t criticise him because he picks the bloody team !

[@championthewonderhorse9733]

That's because of the disproportionate (and unwarranted) influence he has had on the England team for half a decade. Everyone is terrified of crossing Farrell and Borthwick is just the latest if Andy Goode's rumour is true that Arundell is out of the game day squad after a bust up with Farrell. But it rings so true, especially in like of Danny Cipriani's comments about the team being controlled by a few players...

[@tomjoyce6365]

Farrell’s a bully and is a negative influence on the team. Our win percentage with him at 10 is poor. He doesn’t get the best out of the quality he has at his disposal.

[@rob.1]

Curry intensity against kids is hilarious.

[@Centre14]

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[@rob.1]

The only nice thing about seeing all the hate towards him is knowing it doesnt bother him one bit. Lions dont concern themselves with the opinions of sheep. Legend of the game. Hope he goes into coaching.

[@MrChristbait]

I bet he will!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@kennywasgod]

He ain’t no Lion

[@adamcarreras-neal4697]

More of a kitten.

[@treecko7424]

@@kennywasgod 6 Lions test caps say otherwise

[@peterbreen3039]

Absolute donkey: no pace, no footwork, no threat or imagination. Players outside him lose metres because defenders don’t worry about him. England were looking good V Argentina. Then Farrell and his selfish brooding presence returned to poison the team. Good players in the squad want to say this but they have seen what happened to Henry Slade etc

[@tobymcflurry258]

Owen is a fucking legend, and im getting sick of fans with short -term memories. He's been a brilliant player and leader for us for years and you'll miss him when he's gone. Grow up and support us instead of hating on our captain.

[@timwannell6477]

Boom!

[@jamienorwood6855]

Spot on!

[@tobymcflurry258]

yes but there has been a lot of hate too. Also people genuinely seem to think that we would be better with him being dropped, which couldnt be further from the truth@@bm8725

[@IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns]

Jonny Wilkinson won the World Cup. Wilko is England’s finest rugby son.

[@championthewonderhorse9733]

Amazing the Farrell Kool Aid that some are drunk on. He's been a mediocre 10 for England for a while and he is constantly shuffled to 12 where he has played well once or twice while upsetting the balance of the team. He is a pretty limited player now with zero pace, no footwork, and limited attacking vision beyond kicking, yet he gets forced into the team which is not helping.

[@bigowl2542]

Congratulations Owen Farrell. A hugely successful career and the perfect record to cap it off. Always very humble when it comes to his own achievements but this one is massive! My best wishes for you and the rest of the team and I pray you can get your hands on the one trophy you are missing. Come on England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@kp6344]

I’m welsh and have a huge amount of respect for Owen Farrell - he’s been a fantastic leader for England

[@harryscott1460]

So frustrating the hate this guy gets. Absolute servant to the game and always pivotal to the success of this team. World class operator

[@EnglishVeteran]

Well done Faz!

[@j-larne]

I know he gets a lot of stick and bad press but there is no doubt that the way Owen speaks and conducts himself on and off the pitch is a huge credit. The willingness to push other people and expect others to do the hard stuff, as well as showing by example is a great trait. Good leader and when other great leaders talk about him, they hold him in high regard. I'm sure there are plenty more points to be added to the tally too.

[@mattmorgan4083]

Well done Faz, ignore the haters

[@dcmj3798]

congratulations Owen, top class operator, keep it up lads.

[@yorkymc]

Morning folks as an Irish man ,Owen Farrell is class he takes all thats thrown at him ,like watching him play.i dont know the man just like the wasters that slag him dont know him either ,many a game i cursed him in the past playing Ireland but still have respect for him good Lad ,it would be great to see England get it back togeather on the field have good games like we did before .OLDPaddy here love your Dad we do

[@Centre14]

been watching him since 2012, he was on fire in the white wash series win against Australia in 2016, and a great leader in 2019 rwc.

[@JakeYard]

What a player!

[@mh3569]

Great servant for England, well done Owen. Whats that old saying, "dont judge a man by the amount of friends he has, judge him on the amount of enemies he has". Must be doing something right.

[@keithrichardsom1898]

Well done Faz great servant to your country thank you

[@MrFubber]

Congrats Faz. All time great of the game.

[@jonnybaynham1689]

Tbh im glad Farrell made that mistake with the shot clock in this game than a knockout, hopefully hes learned his lesson as clearly they didnt train for that timing. Farrell has been a great servant for England rugby. He will make a great coach to me. I think hes been afforded quite a few opportunities based more on his influence than his form, i can only hope he has good leadership over the knockouts. England will need it.

[@johnfletcher9907]

Personally I didn’t know the rule was you lose the points if you take longer than 1 min. I thought the rule was still the old rule that after 1 min the ball is fair game for the opposition to steal, but you can still kick it over if you get to it first. I thought the shot clock was brought in so everybody can see the time left and it adds a bit of suspense. I would be amazed if the correct rule wasn’t briefed out to farrell, but I have to say the way he took his time at the start of the kick makes me wonder if his understanding was the same incorrect understanding as I had.

[@MiniMatthew]

No he just didn't see the clock, it was after samoas 2nd no arms off the ball tackle so he was contesting it and lost 30 seconds.

[@user-gq5xy4vb7h]

Good to see an episode focusing on Faz and what he has achieved. The haters can hate as much as they want but he is fully devoted to his team and team mates to do the best they can do for their country. Keep up the good work. (It would have been good if the episode showed his whole speech!)

[@darthmaul408]

When I watched this it struck me how fast and agile Freddie Steward looked in the training sessions. I then realised I was watching in 1.5 speed.

[@waynemoore9951]

Great under the high ball but the Titanic turned quicker than him

[@laboduson918]

Go England ! Keep pushing and keep up the good work to build this team !

[@sundanceuk]

Little Faz is a titan of rugby and an England and Lions great. Nothing but respect for the guy 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🌹🦁👊🏻

[@ElliotG89]

Owen is even competitive in a game of touch with a load of kids 😂 Congratulations that man, some achievement. I for one would like to thank him for his years of service so far. Shame to see such negativity towards such a great player.

[@will8503]

What a player. Rugby CV that stands up against anyone on the planet and more recently, MotM at 10 for the prem final vs Sale.

[@Seanc74]

I know you’re all ready fellas. Best wishes. We are all behind you. You can win this comp….

[@G-regTaylor]

Faz is the boss!!! Come on boys!

[@kenmason9354]

We were just brilliant to night, we believe in ENGLAND AGAIN.... ENGLAND are BACK👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@harveyak7313]

It’s nice to see all the positive comments here, this video shows how much of a true legend he is!

[@grimresolve6040]

Come on lads, climb that mountain!

[@jackmoorshead4722]

Come on boys

[@charliecroker6445]

Anything after the1/4s is gravy , Steve Borthwick has been in charge less than a year , it takes time

[@user-kg8xe7ku1e]

Absolute superstar, I enjoy every game with him playing , what a player, man and captain

[@championthewonderhorse9733]

You must hate good rugby.

[@scotie2508]

Well done mate it’s been a pleasure watching your career and hopefully still more to come. 👏🏼👏🏼

[@martinmangongo8188]

Congratulations Faz ! Awesome career. Anyone know the name of the background song second half of the video please share the name if you know 😢

[@timwannell6477]

Absolute legend.

[@TGDarwell]

Owen will go down as one of Englands greatest ever players. We need to appreciate what hes done.

[@thomasriches4807]

Why did you cut the farrel arundell fight out?😂

[@hyacinth673]

Well done owen

[@IAMJEFFREY-cw9ns]

England vs Fiji is next. Can England avenge their loss at Twickenham before the RWC or will the flying Fijians beat them again? Time will tell.

[@jzkramer]

What a great servant for English rugby. But please, please please put him on the bench and move Tuilagi to 12 sand Marchant to 13.

[@user-hu7rn4ym8j]

He’s reached the highest points because English style of rugby doesn’t believe in running rugby anymore………an arrogantly unapologetic player who continually fights with his own players…..the longer you keep him in your team the better…….not really a team but a group of players and coaches who seem to bow down to his voice…..he is no gentleman of rugby

[@rob.1]

Toxic abuse

[@Gilan4983]

That was a woeful performance against Samoa and the fact they can't own up to it in the post match interviews is a problem. Faz said that's just the type of gave they wanted- What, almost getting beaten by a tier 2 nation for the second time in a month? What they needed was a performance like NZ, RSA, Ireland and France have put it, a fluid, dominant match with few errors. The guys in 2003 would have just owned up to it, this team doesn't seem able to

[@secondchance4498]

😴

[@adamcarreras-neal4697]

​@secondchance4498 truth butt hurting you. Id have said awful performance.

[@treecko7424]

"a performance like [...] Ireland" you mean like when Ireland also beat Samoa by less than one score a month and a half ago?

[@Gilan4983]

@@treecko7424 so you obviously didn't see them beat RSA, or Romania by 80, 60 points against Tonga or Scotland by 20. With speed, class & precision?

[@treecko7424]

And England beating Chile by 70 doesn't count? Or Argentina and Japan by 20?@@Gilan4983

[@Antibot2025]

England play boring Rugby & as an Englishman I am the first to admit that but it's their brand of Rugby that brought them success in the past.

[@mickdavis8163]

To all Welsh and Scottish Rugby fans England 30. Fiji 24 pick the bones out of that 😅😅😅

[@stevelee4952]

I am a fan of our captain, tackling apart. But, the boy is nowhere close to the greatest 10 of the modern era Wilko.

[@oliversmiddy840]

What's with the crappy editing at the end that cuts him off?

[@bigjonS4]

Kids would’ve won that but for a dodgy TMO

[@wanderer5598]

Cope harder 😂

[@jonnybaynham1689]

TMO and ref was equally dodgy with both teams

[@bigjonS4]

@@wanderer5598 It was a joke, I was referring to the kids in the video...

[@simonbennett6235]

Is this PR? Financial support/ Plenty of players in England versus other Nations. Results are appalling. Easy side of the World Cup draw with teams with less resources. Appalling lack of self reflection. More resources needed into grass roots and state schools. RFU Management clueless and living in an ivory tower. Captain unable to tell the time when taking the kick! Come on!! Is there nepotism going on?

[@patrickchilds2987]

Player numbers ? England poor performances? RWC draw ? RFU financing of grass roots and Schools . RFU administration ? What has this got to do with Owen Farrell 😂😂 While your at it why not blame him from climate change , the strength of the £ , under investment in public housing . Did I leave any thing out ? Nepotism? You know his dad works for the IFU and not RFU 😂😂😂

[@carpusbarsum]

What an awesome player and man Owen Farrell is. He seems to be hated by a voiciforous section of Brexiter leather elbow jacket types, but those type of people tend to be angry about everything.

[@user-hu7rn4ym8j]

People here don’t seem to have any idea what the term class means anymore……a lot of you wouldn’t recognise class if it ran up to you with a ball and said…Hi..my name is Handre Pollard….or Hi my name is Marie Libbok…..or Johnnie Wilkinson…….now they are classy…..not this grubby ,constantly cussing high tackling dirty player…..by the name of OWen

[@rob.1]

The irony of a comment like this starting with talking about class. Learn some yourself

[@patrickchilds2987]

To be fair to Farrell, he isn’t failing doping tests like some of your other ‘class’ fly half Elton Janjies. Talking of classy I would suggest you concern yourself more with the embarrassment that is South African Rugby in their non complying with world doping agency before this tournament rather than gobbling off about the class of other countries players. Nothing classy about roided Bok players That said Owen Farrell will never achieve the absolute rugby grub status be as Butch James.

[@carpusbarsum]

Saffers never change.

[@user-hu7rn4ym8j]

I am really honestly happy that Owen is in your team…….I read with amusement the description others have of him…….donkey😂😂😂😂..my favourite description of him…..I hope Fiji win…..they are too classy a team to whine whinge and say f%££-…k if they don’t…….springboks will be world champs again👍👍👍👍@@patrickchilds2987

[@Anthony-tn6mu]

What you mean taking too long on a kick and nearly losing us the match?

[@timbarraclough5106]

Shame that England have produced nothing on the pitch that is anywhere near as slick as this video.

[@johnhanson5943]

Well done. Now he’s past it. Needs to retire right now. Ideally before Fiji.

[@carpusbarsum]

a real armchair expert speaks.

[@EnglishVeteran]

Why are we not allowed to sing OUR National Anthem?

[@kevgriffin7062]

Sadly, Jerusalem is not an official anthem. But perhaps a word to the RFU.

[@EnglishVeteran]

@@kevgriffin7062 it was before the British took over in 1707. The British National Anthem in its present form only dates back to the eighteenth century. The words and tune are anonymous, and may date back to the seventeenth century. “God Save The King' was a patriotic song first publicly performed in London in 1745, which came to be known as the National Anthem at the beginning of the nineteenth century. It is not The National Anthem of England.

[@davidwookey3792]

England doesn't have a National Anthem so it takes the British one!

[@Zavala1]

What was? Jerusalem wasn't written as a piece of music until the early 20th century and the words were Blake's, written in 1808. Blake was born 50 years after 1707.

[@EnglishVeteran]

@@kevgriffin7062 True but anything is better than that British Dirge!!!!!

[@jamescoupland131]

Farrell is good but he's no Wilkinson

[@TJHOW1]

are they going to train this week? might be an idea rather than spend all your time doing stupid o2 interviews etc

[@utgo9688]

Yet you watch and comment? They said before the tournament that fan engagement is important to them and these videos are a part of that. Plus, do you think they train every hour they're awake? They probably do very little as their bodies need to recover.

[@shonunezekiel]

The video literally shows them training!🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@nickmaclachlan5178]

I'm willing to bet he takes a bit more notice of the shot clock in future......... that just showed his arrogant side I'm afraid. Hopefully he learned a lot from that mistake. Hopefully......

[@shonunezekiel]

How can you interpret not keeping the shot clock in mind (I don't think he could see it in front of him from the tee) as 'showing his arrogant side'? If he made a forward pass, would that also show his arrogance (because it he thinks he is above the rugby laws)? ...what else do you think would 'show his arrogant side'? I wonder if you have already decided he is arrogant (because other people told you, rather than because you met him), and then you interpret what is in front of you to meet your prejudices/bias... if so, I hope you don't take that attitude into other parts of your life, it could be quite problematic!

[@nickmaclachlan5178]

@@shonunezekiel I'm as perfectly able to make my own mind up about people and their behaviour as you are about my comment..... see how that works? One may even see you comment as ever so slightly hypocritical? Everyone is entitled to an opinion and the fact that mine doesn't align with yours is by the by.... I have managed to make it to 50 odd years old without your guidance and will probably manage to stumble through the rest of my adult life just fine without your input too. But thanks for the vote of no confidence, I won't lose any sleep over it. The fact of the matter is, Mr Farrell knows the new(ish) rule about shot clock timings and is obviously on a one man crusade to try and take up as much of that time as possible (or he was on Saturday anyway) and he properly screwed up. On his previous kick he went right to the wire as well. I hope he got shouted at after the game for doing it too. I'm an England supporter (don't pay attention to the surname) and whilst I usually have a lot of time for Owen, his actions on the weekend really didn't do himself any favours...... I would call that arrogance, you obviously wouldn't, and there sir we differ and will continue to. Goodnight.

[@shonunezekiel]

@@nickmaclachlan5178 you say he is 'obviously on a one man crusade to try and take up as much of that time as possible' - that makes no objective sense... Firstly, I assume/hope you have watched plenty of countries' kickers at the world cup, and would have seen that many take their kicks within the last 10 seconds on the clock (so it can't be a 'one man' thing). Secondly, a crusade is an activity which intends to change something, there is nothing he could change by using up the allotted time, so in what way can it be a crusade? I have not definitively ascribed any attributes to you based on your comment - but you seem to have firmly-held disparaging views of Farrell's character ('his arrogance'), based on what you see on screen, and perhaps what other people say.. This was what Farrell said after the game when asked about the kick: "I was unaware, I didn’t see the clock - it was above where I was picking my target and I obviously got lost a little bit in the kick, but that’s not good enough. Thankfully, I am glad for the team’s sake it didn’t cost us. Hopefully, that mistake doesn’t happen again.” To me, that seems like he has recognised and taken ownership of the failure - in my line of work it would not require anyone in my team to be 'shouted at' if they took that attitude... but I agree with you, hopefully he has learned the lesson, as we can't afford to throw away what few points are there for the taking! Best wishes.

[@somanytakennames]

@@nickmaclachlan5178 At no point did the other person say you weren’t allowed to express your opinion. The point is that your opinion is based off emotionally driven conjecture and as a result, is kinda laughable. Seems to me like you can’t handle being called out.

[@senorprofe6212]

sad to be so determined to dislike someone

[@robinnicholas7867]

Thought it would be the record for the most unpopular player in world rugby- he’s a liability

[@Grumpy_Hobbit]

Hard to know if your irrelevant opinion or his decades long, record breaking historic career should be the judge of his worth...crawl back in your hole!

[@G-regTaylor]

Zzzzzzz

[@shamiemcguire1588]

Go on, ya good thing. Mighty 😊

[@shamiemcguire1588]

A great Irishman. Like his Father...