This Runway Exists in 2 Countries! And it's Permanently Closed. 😔

[@xenimaging]

Really love how humble and human you are man. Much respect

[@vr0ssi46]

If you fly the full approach with a HILPT, the Garmin avionics will only fly the course reversal (one lap) and sequence inbound to the FAF automatically. If you want to stay in the hold, you must manually suspend waypoint sequencing once you’ve entered said hold. On the 650, it’s done via the OBS button. When you cross the fix for the hold, OBS button changes to “Suspend”. Simply tap that and you will stay in the hold.

[@jadeng1147]

Should also be able to do the same thing via the flightplan page (before the hold is entered), although your option is perfectly fine, and if anything, easier.

[@Hunator]

If done by Menu in flightplan page it will just do one orbit. It will transition to Hold exit uppon reaching inbound track. The easiest way how to stay in the hold is from the Map page hit OBS/SUSP button as described earlier. When ready to leave the hold hit OBS/UNSUSP and it will transition to the next point as usual. Same works for older GNS430/530 or G1000.

[@jadeng1147]

@@Hunator Interesting, thanks!

[@javarenas]

There actually is a hold button! You can make any way point a hold without using the OBS button. This is something I learned on the 175. If the 175 can do it, so can the 650 and 750 in my opinion

[@67jokerswild]

I do enjoy the aerobatic content that you do, please keep sharing it!

[@jessedennerlein9746]

Hey Steve, Great Video, I'm definitely a fan of the Aerobatic video's. I was a patreon supporter but then had some technical problems with patreon and never worked through them.

[@FlightChops]

Thanks for the support! It is frustrating to hear that there have been technical issues with Patreon. If you can elaborate maybe I can look into it to see if it is affecting others. Email me to follow up if you’d like. Flightchops at gmail dot com.

[@alexanderbonser1790]

Idk about the GTN, but in the G1000 while your are going the hold entry the OBS button will change to SUSP which once activated will keep you in the hold. Once you are ready to depart press the button again and it will exit the hold towards your next waypoint

[@FlightChops]

Thanks - i will look at it again, but I don’t think the GTN works that way.

[@jonathanmiller2346]

This is correct. Also flight chops…check out a GTN master class offered by pilot workshops, affordable and with money saved from not burning avgas in a race track it will pay for itself!

[@alexlehman3522]

I would highly recommend being proficient in your avionics before doing IFR flights. It is an additional stress and workload that you don’t need.

[@FlightChops]

Of course this is important, but as per several other replies, the thing I tripped over is an outlier case… and I was fully prepared to manually deal with it if the automation didn’t make the outbound turn to stay in the hold. So I don’t think this is a case of being unfamiliar enough to consider it a problem. This is how we learn - you can’t train for every real world contingency.

[@MikeInTheFront]

There’s always little things like this that can crop up with avionics. I’ve seen it in GA airplanes and airliners alike. This is especially when you’re doing a procedure alone for the first time. Steve handled this excellently and professionally. He knew the airplane may not do what he wanted it to and he had a contingency plan by dropping down a level of automation to HDG mode. End of the day it all worked out, he learned something AND he shared it with us. Expertly handled 👏👏👏

[@toddmathison1576]

You’re correct, descend “pilot’s discretion” is the same as “when ready.” You may descend to the cleared altitude when you choose, at any rate you want. If you’re given a crossing restriction, it’s the same as long as you make the restriction. Just report when you leave your current altitude.

[@MikeInTheFront]

I’d be interested in seeing some aerobatic prep and execution as it’s something I want to learn myself eventually.. How you read those aerobatic symbols on paper in a sequence and how you execute it in the air. Figuring out where you are in the box too sounds like a lot of work.

[@FlightChops]

That is a great idea, thanks for the suggestion!

[@Connor_Herman]

So sad this closed. I'm glad I was able to make it a destination for my commercial long XCs from Colorado back in September. With the runway in the condition it was, and the usage it saw, I understand it wasn't viable to get the money to repave it and keep it open, but it was still unexpected news.

[@dbowen7346]

More aerobatics especially competition please!

[@phillip1115]

I landed there as a passenger in my friends 172 coming home from Osk Kosh in 1991. Seeing the clip of the border guards walking back to the crossing and the building was exactly as I remembered. Nice that you got to be the last one to use that crossing.

[@LukePennerAerobatics]

RIP Piney! :( Great to see it immortalized here though :)

[@juhakettunen7971]

First of all: thank you for the great content over all these years. Love all of it, especially all those exotic places you get to visit and obscure planes you get to fly. And aerobatics, with expert running commentary. But I can't help but wonder - is that blue bag on the right seat sturdy enough to interfere with the controls when it (eventually but inevitably) gets tossed around in unexpected turbulence?

[@FlightChops]

Thanks, and it’s my snacks! A light weight cooler bag that I could over power no matter where it ended up if it happened to get thrown into the controls somewhere.

[@iflyc77]

Good job catching the 750 going to Hold Exit after the PT. It assumes that you aren't holding more than the PT - but you did it exactly how you would want to do. Activate the hold once cleared direct to the holding fix (or while doing the PT) and exit when you are inbound on your last lap

[@kwdriver58]

the aerobatics are cool, especially with the kid.

[@FlightChops]

Thanks - I was really proud of that episode but it performed terribly and kinda broke my heart honesty.

[@KalleKilponen]

@@FlightChops That's a real shame. It was one of my favorite episodes in a long time, and I'm sure a lot of people will agree.

[@markthibault8579]

@@FlightChops That episode was awesome and has inspired me to get my own daughter back in the airplane with me. It's been way too long...

[@nonenowherebye]

If you ever come out to south-western BC, you can have the "fun" of flying through US airspace that is controlled by Canadian ATC. Due to the proximity of YVR to the border, and the shape of the border in the area, Vancouver Center controls the airspace I believe as far south as Bellingham Airport (BLI). When flying from, say Boundary Bay to Victoria, the normal route cuts across the north-west corner of the USA.

[@CanardBoulevard]

Flying out east, I've been over New Brunswick and Quebec but talking to controllers in Maine.

[@kwdriver58]

should be a bit south of Belligham, and maybe alt dependent. they had me for a bit going in there from the SE one time.

[@MarkRose1337]

The inverse happens when flying near Detroit.

[@markthibault8579]

Victoria Terminal controls the KBLI approaches and departures. I normally fly out of Abbotsford (CYXX) and you always end up over the US when flying south of the field. This is ok as you're under ATC control so no specific flight plan's required.

[@markthibault8579]

What a cool airport you were able to visit. It would be cool to see more footage of it and the taxi to customs, etc.

[@FlightChops]

It's a shame I don't have more footage as it was a pretty quick trip, and I was trying to remain as low key while dealing with customs... So I just used my phone to film the little bit of B-Roll on the ramp as they walked away. But honestly, there isn't (wasn't?) much to that place... just a singe taxiway to a mid field ramp that was shared by both sides.

[@mikercflyer7383]

Hi Steve , i am not a pilot as you might remember, and the avionics are Greek to me, i just always have enjoyed your videos. Safe travels

[@jamesj2509]

A pedantic point, I know, but an orbit is a complete 360 degree turn (usually rate 1) with no straight segments. A hold has straight legs.

[@goatflieg]

The spirits of mentors can be powerful resources.

[@SeanAllocca]

Start a second channel AreoChops or AcroChops for the acrobatic flight is my suggestion.

[@FlightChops]

Thanks yeah, starting a second channel is just not something I have the time or energy for... and it is REALLY hard to grow a new channel at this point.

[@billbrisson]

I didn't make it to the Nationals this year... too busy building the Field of Dreams :( Love to see more aerobatic content!!

[@williamhill4853]

I have always wanted to fly from the southernmost airport in the continental US. Key West to the northern most Piney Creek. Now I will have to fly from key west to Barrow Alaska

[@ILLEagle_1]

More videos the better if they are interesting, and aerobatics is interesting!

[@paulkrapp]

I would enjoy seeing aerobatics! 🙂👍🛩

[@Fang70]

Gusty crosswind landing in a taildragger.😰 My legs were reflexively twitching just watching that.

[@jadeng1147]

In the 750, the hold happens to be loaded in the approach due to the hold in-lieu of procedure turn already being present on the chart- the tricky (and somewhat stupid thing) is that you need to *activate it.* Briefly at 4:50 you show the "hold 4.0 Mi Coltu," click that, and click activate hold. Now the hold is sequenced in and won't disappear unless you un-suspend it.

[@avery8699]

Steve. I'm an active CFI-I in the U.S. and can help with instrument flying here in the states. I also have a lot of experience with Garmin avionics, including the GTN 750. First, we have a lot of approaches that include a hold-in-liu of procedure turn. The holding point will be an IAF for the approach.They use a standard holding pattern as a course reversal instead of a standard procedure turn. You can use these holds simply as a course reversal to get established or as a holding pattern until cleared for the approach. You can find them on all types of approaches. 2) If they are to be used simply as a course reversal, you do not have to fly the whole outbound leg. Once you are established outbound and are ready, you can turn inbound, capture the final approach course and fly the approach. 3) Your GTN 750 will handle everything for you, including flying the course reversal/hold. Your GFC 500 will even fly the entire course reversal/hold for you. 4) in your case where you were instructed to hold and not clear for the approach, here is how to handle it: Fly the entry to the hold as directed by your GTN 750 Once established inbound, the holding pattern will turn magenta, hit the OBS button to suspend waypoint sequencing. This will keep you in the hold for however long you want. Once you ready to leave, unsuspend the GTN 750.

[@FlightChops]

I greatly appreciate your detailed insights on this one! 🙏

[@avery8699]

@FlightChops I'm happy to help! I know things can be different down here than in Canada and I'm still learning new things about the Garmin avionics. I'm happy to answer any questions you have about IFR flight or your avionics. Thank you for the amazing videos, keep them coming!

[@exF3-86]

While it's domestic not international, in Australia the main runway at Gold Coast airport (OOL) 14/32 cross the state border between NSW and QLD- and therefore it sits in 2 time zones in summer. It always operates on QLD time. The terminal straddles it too. Once you are in domestic baggage collection you are in NSW. To make it even less simple, the facility itself is owned by the Australian government. I'd hate to be doing any sort of admin work there.

[@DeadBaron]

There's an area similar to this in Maine called Estcourt Station. The border cuts right through a village where depending on where you are in the houses, you could be in Canada or the US. But our politicians on both sides of the border made it a living hell, having to call border control during certain times of day just to say you were going out and when you were coming back, and if you didn't call them you'd be arrested. One guy got arrested for getting gas at the wrong gas station. They even paid taxes to both countries. Now most of the homes are abandoned just because people that have never set foot in the region decided to make life miserable for them. If you go East of Estcourt a few miles you can still see the airstrip, which has been reopened for recreational flying. It isn't paved anymore and looks super rough but I guess a group called the Recreational Aviation Foundation is keeping it clear (never heard of them before and can't find the identifier for the airfield)

[@thefencepost]

You said the Pine Creek airport was 'in the middle of nowhere', and that has had it's advantages. Before the U.S. joined the Allies in WWII the Neutrality Act prevented America from flying planes to their destinations in warring countries. A plan was made in secret to fly warplanes to the boarder at Pembina, just about 50 miles west of Pine Creek. The Planes were then towed across the boarder by horses where Canadian pilots took over and flew them to England.

[@FlightChops]

Apparently this particular airport is one of 6 like this that straddle the border. The other 5 were used the way you’ve described, but apparently this one actually opened after the war and wasn’t used to smuggle the warplanes.

[@CanardBoulevard]

What are the lighted switches that you have installed below the pilot side G3X? I like them.

[@FlightChops]

I forget the manufacturer but it was an option that SteinAir offered when they designed my panel.

[@darkwinter6028]

If I recall correctly, those are from just before WWII; exploiting a loophole to export warplanes before the US had officially entered the war.

[@FlightChops]

That's true for 5 of the 6 cross border airports like this, but apparently this one opened after the war and wasn't a part of that interesting history.

[@halepauhana153]

The weather here in BC has been absolutely the worst this December. I haven't flown since Dec 1. Maybe I should spend the money and get my IFR rating...

[@FlightChops]

It’s been similar around here most of this month, and the problem is icing risk, so I can’t even fly IFR.

[@solarusthelonghaulerrailfa3226]

It’s amazing how many people are scared to ask a question

[@FlightChops]

Yup. I try to leverage ATC as much as I can. (while being cognizant of not clogging up a busy frequency)

[@thonatim5321]

Just think, if Canada becomes the 51st state, this airport can re-open.

[@javarenas]

Hey flight chops. I made a short 5 minute video for you on how to use the your GPS! If I can do it on the 175, I don’t see why the 650 you have can’t. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipfanJerftuLmK8si=6z07lQXzRzyn3YWy

[@FlightChops]

Thanks! I'll check that out tomorrow - just signing off for new year's eve here - have a good one!

[@FlightChops]

I just watched and commented under the unlisted video - I'll paste it here too: "Hey, thank for this. So yeah, I'm actually familiar with how to do what you're describing here... But if you check out the specifics of my particular situation, the issue was that even after "activating" the hold on that approach, the system always tried to exit immediately after getting back to the fix on the inbound leg, but I was trying to stay in the hold - So what the other comments helped me understand is that even if I activate that hold, it won't stay in it unless I suspend sequencing, which I failed to do."

[@clarencewiles963]

If it’s on paper you can get it done. 😂 you’re saying you need practice and instruction. It’s a learning thing. I’m thinking about you talking is that your taking to me. 😂