This scene from Young Justice is so weird from Zatanna's POV 😂

[@szymonbober2280]

Zatanna:ok, they all looked at me and started waving their hands... Suspicious...

[@thememeninja1075]

🎉

[@nvwest]

MEnaCingLy!!

[@astroboystan]

lol

[@Merilirem]

Italian mimes.

[@PickyPaige]

I love how at first the team hated the psychic conversations, then by the end they made it their own thing, and were so accustomed to it that they were confused when other heroes were bothered by it!

[@Berd-Wasted.]

1.2K and not a single reply. This some freaky stuff. Also, someone else please talk here or else it'll seem like I'll have Dementia.

[@NeongamerexIdk]

Okay 👍

[@christianyaerger1751]

The animation team probably loved getting a break from facial animations. XD

[@Lord_Phoenix95]

​@@christianyaerger1751yeah. Least Superboy's face never changes.

[@joaorathis8157]

Easier to animated

[@Zionswasd]

Psychic conversations are kind of a genius way to save time lipsyncing for the animators if you think abt it.

[@timechanger6679]

That’s always why I assumed they did it so much in this show, like even when it wasn’t necessary. Pretty genius tho

[@Tesseract.2012]

Especially when you’re doing psychic characters like Mewtwo and Professor X.

[@Sheriff_K]

They lipsync? I thought they just flapped their mouths..

[@Tesseract.2012]

Or masked characters like Spider-Man, Iron Man, Black Panther, Ant-Man or Deadpool for scenes in which their masks cover their mouths.

[@xristopher1490]

Lol😂😅😊

[@JunDageki]

Hand gestures without psychic looks like “you tell her, no you tell her”

[@mindsight9732]

Superboy: Well, Sonebody has to tell and it's not me!

[@Isaiah_WRLD999]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Syryu]

One detail I love about this scene is that everyone is still using body language as if they were speaking verbally except for M'Gann. This shows that despite the Team becoming comfortable with it, it's still not their primary method of communication, whereas for M'Gann she grew up with this being the primary form of communication and sees no reason to use body language at all.

[@tetragaming6332]

@@laurenevers8644so you’re saying that she had to go to earth to figure out what body language was because Martians don’t communicate with it even though they can do it.

[@Tesseract.2012]

Take away the voice overs and they’re actors filming a scene with facial expression and body language.

[@thatboyakira4202]

Is it jus ne who cant read M'Ganns name as Megan? For me is just "M-Gun"

[@michaelcarlton1484]

​@@tetragaming6332 She had access to TV signals.

[@helixsol7171]

​@@thatboyakira4202 Her Martian name is pronounced "Muh-Gahn", she chose Megan as her human name because of both the show she loves and the fact that it is similar to her actual name.

[@watertypes4evers]

Imagine Robin looking all serious but when it gets to his mind, he’s just thinking about Mario music and going “I’m gonna stomp on Croc like that one day”

[@youngdiversity9860]

😂😂😂😂😂 bro this is PRICELESS!

[@Tyr-qz2lo]

Honestly a bunch of hormonal teenagers with psychic links should’ve led to some really awkward moments.

[@youngdiversity9860]

@@Tyr-qz2lo seriously, they should ALL know what Wally thinks and especially what Connor thinks of M’gann. Lol. ALL THOUGHTS

[@haddy106]

"Baaaby shark doo doo doo doo doo doo"

[@freddyjosereginomontalvo4667]

I can imagine Dick Grayson's mind like that or even Tim Drake Jason or Damián on the other hand......

[@Charming_Cthulhu]

Isn't the point of having a psychic conversation to not let everyone else know that you're having a psychic conversation? Talking with body language is still very noticeable 😂

[@error8119]

nah the point is so that she don’t know what they talking about. Even if they all stood perfectly still you’d know something is up if everybody is just stone faced staring at something or doing their own thing when something important is happening, especially as a magician. They just needed her to not know wtf was being said, that or they legit forgot she couldn’t hear them. Either way they not hiding it from her at all

[@nomisunrider6472]

Honestly I think they're just so used to it at this point that they do it automatically and don't really think about what it looks like to everyone else.

[@Aidoneus87]

Connor and Wally are too passionate for subtlety at this point in the story, anyway. All of the others make only subtle gestures. Except Dick, who if he had turned his head just a few degrees more to his right, would have noticed that Zatanna was looking at them…

[@darriongeorge5137]

It's still like talking just without using your mouth, some people do he sure when they talk to its just natural for them

[@yoyohan9]

It's normal to subconsciously gesture when having a conversation, especially if it's passionate/heated. And if they're used to this method of conversation, they probably don't think about how weird it looks from the outside. Plus, it makes the scene 1000x funnier 😂

[@sierrajohnson717]

lmao i literally did exactly this the other day, and started dying at how crazy expressive Wally and Connor are being while seemingly silent. They almost look like Mimes, and Connor widening his eyes like that looks like im on his team in charades and cant guess what he is and hes mad and shouting with his eyes

[@vullord666]

I actually really want to see this team play charades now. 😂

[@tbuckley2031]

K but it actually fits that Robin and Aqualad would be subtle Megan would be used to it and Conner and Wally are both very emotional so they would make it obvious

[@prion42]

He would get mad lol

[@nickstone3012]

"God, obviously I was a chalkboard. How did you not get it!?!?"

[@carelsteele8754]

Your a psychic?

[@Hi_Just_Fred]

When you're the only one in the server not invited to the voice chat.

[@thatoneguy8907]

Reminds me of the scene in the later seasons where Superboy and Miss Martian are having an intense fight with each other except they don’t reveal what’s said they just walk around making expressions

[@eitakou]

What episode is that 😂😂

[@thatoneguy8907]

@@eitakou It’s somewhere between Season 3 Ep 17-21 I believe, but it’s the start of the episode in which (Spoilers)… The outsiders find out that the Justice League has been manipulating events for better PR towards the outsiders, leading to a fight

[@Tortilla.Reform]

Great way to save money on animation and lip syncing 😂

[@snoopymochi562]

I love the art and animation of this show so much.

[@megamillion5852]

I second that! It's very unique, and has this striking balance of grit and charm that feels just right. The look of the Batfamily in particular are like an aesthetic highlight for me-just sheer perfection. This version of Robin has long been my favorite. I like to think that YJ and the most recent DCAU films share universes, as they look fairly identical.

[@maxalaintwo3578]

I don’t. Phil Bourassa’s artstyle ended up setting the precedent for nearly all DC animation going forward. The designs were overcomplicated which made animation stiff. It doesn’t show so much in the first two seasons of Young Justice, but by season three it shows and through the DC Animated Movies of the 2010s it REALLY shows

[@Kpengie]

@@megamillion5852 They literally can't share a universe due to extensive continuity conflicts.

[@Manganization]

@@maxalaintwo3578 this isn't his fault. The show's later seasons received a decreased budget. WB was already not on board with the series, they just decided to throw a bone for longer than I expected.

[@nagger8216]

​​@@megamillion5852Agreed, they even used Bibbo's Diner and the voice actor for Superman from Young Justice in the Under the Red Hood/Death in the Family animated adaptation. Unless they ever reveal Jason to be a completely different character than what we see in that movie (considering YJ is canceled I doubt it now), my headcanon is it's the same universe

[@Tesseract.2012]

0:27. Realistically this is what it’s like for actors in live action, filming a psychic conversation with just staring or body language prior to voice over being added in post production.

[@Sentralkontrol]

A lot of times if it’s live action mixed with animated they do have a physical actor as a stand in for cg characters. And if it’s live action people only they’ll still say the lines, they’re just edit out. Very little to none of the on set sound makes it through to the final version of modern films. A lot of it is just dubs

[@ravifonseca8]

It's either a psychic conversation or this gang is so tight that can even communicate through looks. You know you can do the same with your homies 😂😂

[@danitho]

Legit

[@Tortilla.Reform]

Let the homies hit

[@craytherlaygaming2852]

That requires a level of closeness even old married couples will lack... unless your speaking through muscles and your name is Alex Loui Armstrong

[@Merilirem]

Actually they are psychically communicating. You didn't get the hookup and since you didn't think to ask they just assumed you could hear them.

[@Crackmiser]

I love the idea that anyone who just happens to watch them together would just see a group of people waving their arms around while not saying a word.

[@Tortilla.Reform]

You perfectly described a rave at Gallaudet

[@greenmumin]

I always loved this idea.This made the team special,because when they were on the field they didnt make noise talking and communicating.Perfect for a cover team.

[@justincarawan-carawanco.pu1639]

I wish they had done this in the original show! That was cool, creepy, and hilarious all at the same time!

[@ellag3265]

Yeah I wish they just had one cut-away of a dramatic team's conversation to someone who can't hear it 😂

[@gogetathestrongestfusion]

@@ellag3265”What is the enemy doing” Soldier: not sure boss they seem to being communicating Via hand signs wait a sec oh shit they are starting at me.

[@124dkg9]

miss martian: “oh shit my bad, let me add you to the chat”

[@GragDrac]

lmao what😭😭

[@FOF275]

I love how M'gann does this so casually that it's almost like everyone has telepathy

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

"Help me! I'm stuck with a bunch of mimes having a conversation! They aren't even good mimes!"

[@RandoDoodlz]

I love her patience as they converse for a fairly long time.

[@Peapeapeapa]

Honestly if i was Zatanna i would have just thought they were all such besties they got wordless communication down

[@kellysjourney2771]

Psychic conversations always confused me, whilst I’m thinking about something specific I’m always thinking about sum else in the background as well, no way they’re ONLY thinking about the convo, how does the link know what NOT to share lmaoo

[@royce_beyer]

It's probably along the lines of where you think about saying something but just before you say it you stop.

[@badrinath5306]

Miss martian saw the background too once it really irked everybody. It was the second episode where they asked her to promise that she won't read their private thoughts r let others hear them. It wierd actually though cause everyone can still hear wally.

[@nagger8216]

Yeah, there's no way everyone isn't listening to the same song someone else got stuck in their heads, especially when the psychic link is constant. But iirc there was a way to distinguish those thoughts from what you actually want to communicate, YJ is definitely one of those shows that takes little stuff like that into consideration and explains them.

[@nagger8216]

​​​@@badrinath5306Wally's just kind of a dipshit, let's be real. It took like half the season for him to figure out Conner and M'gann were together, and even then that's only because Artemis finally spelled it out for him

[@kellysjourney2771]

Yeah but idk if I’m just odd with my level of focus, whilst I was reading what y’all were saying in my head I’m also singing a song in my head too at the same time🤷🏾‍♂️

[@sebastianfinch460]

I figure it would make sense for them to gesticulate while they're talking in their minds cuz they're not used to it😂

[@ikonthehero]

it never dawned on me that she can’t hear them so it would just be silence with a lot of hand gestures

[@DDRhappiness17]

I loved this part I couldn't stop laughing for awhile

[@Seallypoops]

Defeating the purpose of mental talks by just talking with your hands

[@Syryu]

I like it since it shows that despite becoming comfortable with it, it's still not their primary method of communication. Notice, M'Gann is the only one who doesn't move or gesture with her hands because this how she grew up communicating and doesn't see the need to use her hands or body language

[@iliketea1427]

0:38 is so awkward and hilarious at the same time

[@cliffturbo2146]

Superboy: We don't need her!

[@piggylover8882]

One of my favorite scenes is in season 3 when M'gann and Gar are arguing/yelling at each other telepathically in the outsiders apartment and everyone is just watching them flail their arms at each other used to it (actually it might have been m'gann and conner I can't remember)

[@bthsr7113]

I like how there are little touches in the faces even without lip flaps. Also the hand movements.

[@number1fool]

This reminds me of a clip I saw of that show “the wonder years” where they took out the audio of Daniel stern’s narration and just left the actors silently staring at each other for an uncomfortable amount of time

[@cl0ud5urfer]

Someone did the same thing for the main guy from the show You, and it was incredibly hilarious

[@IN-tm8mw]

OH MAN, i grew up watching the wonder years, i'd love to see that edit LOL.

[@jakebrady5531]

Realized Robin's behind Zantana having a "I should've known" type look on his face/demeanor. All while she makes her comment. 🤣👍🏻

[@puffygasp]

Great, now I need someone to make a fanfic of them playing an elaborate game of Charades Also, I love the muted colors in this edit here. IDK why, it just looks really sick.

[@MrDibara]

The "wind blowing" sound effect you added made this doubly hilarious. 😂

[@yamidelacroix6729]

I just love the fact that everyone still did the body language to the psychic convo, like isn't this meant to be a way to keep your discussion/argument under wraps? Remember when psychic discussions were disliked by the team, like they saw it was useful but there was the whole privacy thing, look how far they've come. I really need to catch up with this show, ai think I got to season 3 or 4, it was really a highlight show for me.

[@DaDualityofMan]

There’s only 4 seasons, so I guess you left off on 3

[@KenshiImmortalWolf]

I think it's because they are at their home base. Their relaxed, not in hero mode where they have to keep their bodies in a specific mode. So they are between the advantages of home and the advantages of not needing to speak aloud.

[@yamidelacroix6729]

@@KenshiImmortalWolf Yeah I figured that but they're all doing it infront of Zatanna, like they obviously chose psychic convo since it's meant to be a private discussion and it's silent but it's also really not private at all due to the physical movement. That's what I meant.

[@moonmannd7501]

This exact scenario but walking down a hallway with only minor physical tells and no one would have ever been the wiser

[@kacperz5683]

Zatanna is so cool in YJ, especially last 2 seasons.

[@bdjsjshhehehd8989]

0:23 imagine seeing that in real life bro id shit myself 😂😂

[@KenshiImmortalWolf]

This is actually interesting to see how they've adapted. Their use to the psychic conversation ability but they also are not in hero mode, meaning their relaxed and react physically cause of it. If they defaulted to hero mode cause of it it likely wouldn't of been as obvious to Zatanna but because they are at their home base they don't even think about it.

[@Hollohon]

I also have psychic conversations with energy beings. I'm schizophrenic.

[@michaelpusey9516]

I really don't know how psychic conversations sounds so smooth. My mind is constantly rambling, it would disrupt the entire convo with random bullshit

[@artridiculous5354]

Loud music would be playing in my head, or my intrusive thoughts would make it awkward.

[@chongwillson972]

@michaelpusey9516 you would have to "speak" it mentality.

[@elijahadegbayi0916]

Zatanna, to answer your question it's both.

[@islandsunset]

Superboy concerned about M'gan is so cute. Such a teenage love struck boy lol

[@guillermogarcia3709]

Young justice should be treated with respect because half viewers like watching that show

[@be6386]

I wanna see a social experiment of this happening and seeing people think there crazy are have physic powers

[@uncomfortableviewings9086]

0:44 Connor’s face is one of PURE rage and I’m sobbing

[@2005zhane]

If this is just a group of teens/young adults talking telepathically, imagine how normal this is with actual twins.

[@Storeyteller001]

I just love the implications of it being uncommon for them to be unlinked when their together. Makes me wonder if they forget everyone else can't hear them. And the muscle memory of connecting them from Megaan

[@terryqokov6999]

How'd Zatara & Black Canary not notice? lol

[@kamenwaticlients]

like many adults they just ignore the children till something goes wrong or they want something done lol

[@gilzineto]

they were not paying attention...

[@martinaguilar5646]

I think they did notice, they just said "we shouldn't worry, the moment they all start walking in the same direction is where we worry"

[@gurglequeen433]

Imagine they're all stone faced focused on training and the League are all proud, then phase into the mind link and Wally's brain is just the Wii music whike like six different conversations are going on, Robin taking part in all of them at once.

[@alexisgrunden1556]

My dad and uncle once did exactly this over a game of Risk; not a word was spoken, not a sound was made, but a few looks and they had a whole-@$$ conversation, basically agreeing that one of the other players was too dangerous an opponent to try and solo. Allies? ALLIANCE!!! And they worked together, without a word, and kept "talking" to each other to plan out strategies, the whole game, until they'd kicked his butt. Dude was very WTF, trying to figure out how they'd done that; Dad just said "We talked it out, and we agreed on it." _'But you didn't say anything!!'_ "Yeah, but we still talked it out."

[@scottletourneau4571]

Sis thought they were casting spells and got excited

[@TheReapergod36]

I'd rule psychic conversations are very rude in downtime, invaluable on the battlefield.

[@arcata06]

They did what they did to save on the animation budget I figured

[@Oklines]

Why does every one say this? It’s because mgann has telepathy and they’re talking psychically. It’s literally part of the story, it wouldn’t make sense if they were using their mouths or it wouldn’t be a secret conversation.

[@someclevername8167]

@@Oklinesboth can be true. It makes sense in-universe and it saves on animation costs. Win-win, I say

[@tenjenk]

You're taking on the entirely wrong perspective here. it does nothing to save on animation budget. Infact they have to animate more for the gestures to be more emotive and stuff like Zettana noticing. little repetitive mouth movements arent expensive, full body expressions are.

[@joshgotayoutube3370]

@@someclevername8167agreed all be it they did get a little lazy later on and would do less gesture animations/facile expressions which w/o doesn’t translated well emotionally, but budgets a budget.

[@knightfallprotocol]

@@tenjenk that's not the case in seasons 3 and 4. There's countless scenes where it literally just looks like I'm watching a series of screenshots.

[@megaunderflow4076]

Ngl one of the best parts of this vid for me is that description 😂😂 Big brain move my guy 😤

[@cronchulus5489]

She waited a whole ass minute before deciding to cut in to ask if they having a “pSYChIC CONVERSATioN”

[@DaFriggenBat]

I like how they don't hide it at all, even though thats the whole point

[@Devastator5487]

0:27 reminds me of that Spiderman meme with them pointing at each other

[@DaDualityofMan]

If this was me my mind would wonder off to the most pointless bs and everybody would be like wtf? 😂

[@sodalite5294]

That’s how I feel when my parents talk in Spanish lol

[@procow2274]

No inner monologue people be like

[@dumbidea1007]

When you realize telepathy was just an excuse for low animation

[@kristophersy773]

It's not a telepathic conversation Zatanna, it's the Charade's Hazing.

[@freeamericanthinker558]

YaBoyRoshi had a great reaction to this.🤣

[@ashleylightheart126]

if they weren't kids, it'll almost look like they're discussing whether they should invite her to join their polycule and Connor being VERY against it.

[@sewing3049]

I rewatched the show recently and this is all I could think about during every physic conversation.

[@rileyowen7245]

Z caught them off guard 💀

[@awkiethephantom]

I cant get the full effect of the silent version cuz i still hear the audio in my head 😂😂😂

[@ComicBookKing]

75 percent of communication is through body language soooo 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@perksofvon]

i feel like they should've had a few more seasons where they were young before transitioning to Justice League members and becoming older.

[@polaroized]

love that miss martian initiates the mind link first, she knows her team is ok with it and the rest of them follow. and yes, while she obviously did this to have a private conversation away from the others while still in the room with them, to me it’s just like m’gann feels normal with her friends, martians always communicate by telepathy so her doing it like instinctually with them and them used to it and also doing just shows how comfortable she’s gotten around them

[@nightshard7651]

Young Justice s1 was peak

[@OtakuJuanma2]

If Zatana wanted she could just peek. IDK if Young Justice's Zatana is able to tap into her comicbook power, but she's pretty bonkers, it's easier to list what her magic can't do.

[@AmitCinematicUniverse]

I think that was one of the first scenes I watched in the series, and my reaction was similar to hers.

[@moisesdanielalvarado5578]

Young Justice is a pretty good animated series and Zatanna is a pretty cool character!

[@RonPaul42069]

0:20 Nolan North is so good as Superboy.

[@ArtistSoul]

You know it doesn’t resonate as rude until you see it from Zatannas pov lol Cool of her for just vibing with it 😂😂

[@jamesbeard5513]

Psychic conversation falls under the category of both in this situation. It is cool that they are talking to each other in private, but rude in how they were ignoring Zatanna when she was standing right there.

[@jhirobertson5822]

They really got the psychic group chat and Zatanna wasn’t invited

[@LamanKnight]

This is a little bit like watching people converse in American Sign Language, when you don't speak it yourself.

[@rprfl4mezyt964]

Psychic conversation is really broken you can do anything you can even screenshot what you saw and share that image with other people but its also dangerous to

[@Lightwing247]

I love the fact that this became a thing saved the animators big time

[@mlggamer5296]

I was about to ask if Zatanna was hearing anything myself. She looked lost like she wasn't following the conversation

[@sandyscrapwitch2064]

Its clear that starting from Season 3 that they do this to save the budget from lipsyncing animation 😭

[@knightfallprotocol]

Exactly!

[@tenjenk]

By making them more emotive through body language? Thats more expensive animation wise than lipsyncing animation. This has been a wild claim for years and was always bulshit.

[@knightfallprotocol]

@@tenjenk you're cherry picking. There's countless scenes where they're not moving at all and are just looking at each other like it's a screenshot. And even if that wasn't the case. Lip synching is long and tedious. And considering the show got canceled TWICE, It's pretty safe to say the budget was not very big and they needed to cut corners as much as possible.

[@sandyscrapwitch2064]

​@@tenjenk yea thats exactly the point. In anime the lip syncing is cut down (thats why the mouths only flap around from open and closed) due to this they can delegate the animation to other stuff like you said body language and fight scenes they do the mouth flaps thing in Teen Titans too

[@sandyscrapwitch2064]

@@knightfallprotocol I still hate the fact that rather than resolving previous plot points they just keep adding new plotlines despite them knowing that their show is barely being kept alive and now it ends with a huge pile of unresolved storylines

[@snowflakee7734]

"BECUZZ we like having him around" - man I miss Wally. I hope a season 5 would be made so that Wally could return

[@redclover8387]

When ur playing among us with a discord call and someone forgot to un-deafen

[@AnthonyTheMVP]

I can’t believe I never thought about Zatanna’s pov because then it’s just quiet and awkward 😂

[@PhantoRoyce]

It almost looks like they’re just really good at reading each others faces and movements

[@user-fq1xx5fw7f]

Wait I'm actually laughing so hard right now 🤣

[@Lyla_Daemon765]

Zatanna doesn't know about telepathy yet😂😂😂😂

[@itsbritneybyotch7471]

Zatanna is such a Gretchen

[@goldcypher9938]

I appreciate your description

[@kash880]

This gives me the same vibe of being around my two Quebec friends. I dont speak a single French but they do. and when I'm around and they want to say something to each other and not have me know, they start talking in French, and I sit there confused as fuck. 😂

[@henrydavel1440]

Zatanna:snaeb eht llips enoyreve

[@VasiliyOgniov]

Lmao, this description is genius

[@SinonIG]

This makes me love young justice even more😭

[@TeeklGrey]

M'gann added Connor to the group. M'gann added Wally to the group. M'gann added Kaldur to the group. M'gann added Dick to the group. M'gann added Artemis to the group. M'gann: Ayo what's going on with this Zatarra guy

[@sonicguyver7445]

I thought of it like this when I first saw the episode and Zatanna pointed out that is was a psychic conversation. I realized they were havimg all the body language with none of the words. It was hilarious and this proves it.

[@Andyxws]

Just like death note without their internal monologues, but this context almost makes it funnier

[@RiseLeon_Turtle]

Zatanna was like so confused with it and was like: they not speaking but they using hody language. THEY MUST BE HAVING A PSYCHIC CONVERSATION!

[@thomaslao9832]

season 1 is one of the GOATs of DC animation. this was the replacement for Teen Titans and JLU. sadly the writer thought timeskipping between seasons was genius when in reality it was stupid and jarring and all to sell tie in comics and video games that probably no one picked up.

[@swimmer8585]

Season 2 is great too. Then it got cancelled. Season 3 was not bad. Some of the characters missed the mark, but it wasn't bad. Season 4 was really bad. I lost interest when Lagoon Boy was in a bisexual cuckold throuple. Like no I can't do that I'm sorry too much

[@Sejikan]

​@@swimmer8585well that and whatever the hell they ended up doing with Violet

[@nagger8216]

​​​​@@swimmer8585Yeah I thought that shit was hilarious lmao I couldn't actually believe what I was seeing, it was beyond surreal. I always enjoyed the idea of him being the rebound guy for M'gann really fucked with him, and that's why he's in a polyamorous relationship. "Our baby" lmfaoo. That said, I really enjoyed Conner's story and what they did with Zod, it's probably my favorite depiction of him so far.

[@swimmer8585]

@@Sejikan Yeah there was way too much time spent on stupid stuff like that instead of actual plot good characterization

[@swimmer8585]

@@nagger8216 That was one of the better parts of the season. I also enjoyed the Tigress/Orphan arc. We don't get to see much of the Batfamily outside of the regulars. I was hoping for more seasons really to see Red Hood flesh out since him and Damian were teased