This Smithsonian Video is Quite Unhistorical

[@ForgottenWeapons]

The Dreyse was indeed a revolutionary new design. It was not immediately copied because it was expensive and kept secret, but the French would adopt a needle rifle in 1866. Having French and Prussian adoption (as well as use as a cavalry arm by unified Germany for a few years in the 1870s, and Italy as well) gives you 2/3 of the dominant land armies at the time using needle rifles. They didn't see further adoption because they were quickly eclipsed by metallic self-contained cartridges by the 1870s.

[@BrandonF]

Surprising to see you here! Thanks for the additional info. It's definitely an interesting piece.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

@@BrandonF Not to detract from the fact that the Smithsonian Channel is, in fact, all crap. If you want to see some period information, look at the international reaction to the Austro-Prussian War in 1866, where Prussian Dreyse-armed men clobbered the Austrians and their percussion rifles.

[@radomircita9420]

@@ForgottenWeapons one thing we were told in our history classes in Czechia (large part of Austro-Prussian War of 1866 was fought in Bohemia) Is that Dreysse offered his design to Austrian army first And was rejected. Generál staff found the design interesting, but wasteful in terms of ammunition.

[@marcks-3980]

Another good showcase of the Dreyse is on the channel "capandball" run by a Hungarian fellow who specializes in black powder firearms. He compares the Dreyse with the Austrian Lorenz Rifle and how they stacked up again each other at the battle of Königgrätz.

[@noteanotell937]

@@marcks-3980 never heard of that channel I'll look into it thanks.

[@Slafeys]

Why an AK-47 beats a non-automatic firearm in every single way! (Gets put up against a Chinese fire lance from like 1200 or something)

[@AlanGChenery]

M16 vs a bolt action Lee Enfield on a short firing range seems a very apt comparison.

[@kyleheins]

@john Mullholand sounds like more legit entertainment than this smithsonian thing.

[@realmario979]

Why the Topol-M beats a slingthrower in every other way

[@joeblow9657]

Only simps use an automatic rifle to fight the majestic lance.

[@essexclass8168]

Why an HK416 beats a Mosin Nagant in every single way

[@menschman1464]

We should pressure Brandon into reviewing all of the seasons of deadliest warrior.

[@mitch7235]

Here, here!

[@Nonsense010688]

that wouldn't be good for his health...

[@leighrate]

Don't be so cruel.

[@menschman1464]

As an aside didn’t the show get cancelled because one of the guys lied about being a navy seal or something?

[@mitch7235]

@@Nonsense010688, nah, it would great for him. It would be a character building exercises.

[@atomic1932]

That is literally like comparing a Mauser 98 to a Steyr Aug

[@presidentlouis-napoleonbon8889]

The Aug is better, the rate of fire with equivalent accuracy! -Smithsonian- The Aug user is a firearm historian, the M98 user is a chillin' out amateur shooter... Well, the Aug still won the match, so it is better isn't it? -Smithsonian idiots-.

[@fds7476]

At least he can tell at sight a Mauser rifle from a javelin! ... Anyone?

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@fds7476 well, I hope, because the back blast of a Javelin is no joke ;)

[@fds7476]

@@SonsOfLorgar Not that kind of... Nevermind.

[@dominien6487]

PIAT to the FGM-148 Javelin

[@asakhosaminchevhasninkvarinq]

WE WANT THE DEADLIEST WARRIOR BRANDON!

[@themadmaus6222]

King Harlaus I think he would die so nah

[@milosjanos5058]

Only well known war, or better said battle was battle of Koniggratz during austro- prussian war in1866. Prussians equipped with Drese rifles beat austrian euipped with 1854 Lorenz rifled musket, decisively. Often, this victory is credited to dreyse rifles, but that is only partially true. Major factor was outdated austrian tactics, based on large scale bayonet charges. Also legend is that Lorenz musket could not be loaded while soldiers are lying on ground. This is not true. You could load Lorenz musket while lying on ground. In fact austrian training manuals contain instructions to load Lorenz musket while on ground. In fact Lorenz rifle was more reliable, had better muzzle velocity, greater range and was more precise that Dreyse rifle. Only advantage that Dreyse had over Lorenz was rate of fire. Which turn out to be one of decisive factors, but not only one. Reason why needle rifle did not spread so much was that shortly after bolt action rifles started to be used. Fun fact czech gunsmith Sylvester Krnka offered his breechloading rifle design to austrian authorities, but he was declined.

[@vonJosephu]

Yes, the Austrians drew all the wrong conclusions from the Italian war of '59. The Lorenz was very, very accurate to a much longer Range than the Dreyse. The Dreyse was originally conceived as a counter to muskets, capable of rapid fire and with a usable range up to 300m compared to a musket's 150m. The rifles of the 1850s were accurate up to 600-800m in trained hands. If the Austrians hadn't tried to close the range to cold steel ranges, the battle would have gone differently. Not necessarily an Austrian victory, they had issues with training and, sadly, the usual Austrian problem of lackluster generalship, but not the curbstomp it was.

[@anthonyhayes1267]

Krnka of Roth-Krnka fame?

[@JonJonGTA]

I disagree with your claims. Speed was not the only advantage the dreyse had and Lorenz wasn't so much more accurate or powerful "Tactics and rifles of the battle of Königgrätz - Lorenz and Dreyse rifles in action" on KZbin kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWbbeWSPerGcsLs

[@presidentlouis-napoleonbon8889]

I hope you see your comment and watch the video (I think you've saw it). But the Lorenz is dramatically tiresome and slower compared to the Dreyse and Austrian officers didn't like prone and fire. The Lorenz does have superior muzzle velocity and accuracy. The Austrians should've used that. But the Austrian tactical doctrine (Shock Tactic) doesn't really think of that advantage. The real reason, I think, of limited usage between nations is because of the cost. Unless an entire nation is going to go totally with the needle rifle, it is a problem to think all of the leftover muzzle loaders, which is quite a lot of money spent for it. I love you comment and thank for mentioning it.

[@makinapacal]

Regarding Koniggratz. I think mention should be made of the superiority of Prussian artillery which I believe was massively superior to Austrian artillery in this battle.

[@Dr_Robodaz]

The only Farb fight which is acceptable to everyone is Ninja vs. Pirate. The eternal struggle...... However, Deadliest warrior reaction rant. Oh, damn yes!

[@deutschamerikaner]

@Darren Ashmore Funnily enough, ninjas and pirates were at least around in the same time period.

[@steveisthecommissar4013]

Deutsch Amerikaner and I know just talking About the classic depiction of pirates but depending on where you are and how far back you want to go Pirates were thing for a very long time and still Exist

[@deutschamerikaner]

@The kitten Commissar Somolian pirate vs. Cilician pirate!

[@steveisthecommissar4013]

Deutsch Amerikaner that’s the real rivalry or a cilician somoli pirate

[@Tareltonlives]

I hope if the DIH ever investigates Indonesian piracy, the article on it is called Pirate vs Ninja

[@cxa1936]

Was anyone else worried that the brown bess guy would burn off his moustache

[@maxwellclark6992]

His moustache would burn off the Brown Bess, actually it probably wouldn’t, but oh well

[@JohnsonTheSecond]

"The Panther was better than the Panzer IV in every way" Edit: To test this, I found a 2 year old and gave him a Panzer IV. He didn't manage to get a single shot on target. Me with the Panther got like 100 shots in two hours. They all hit. In War Thunder.

[@joeblow9657]

Well if the transmission doesn't break down, then yeah the Panther is a better tank

[@JohnsonTheSecond]

@@joeblow9657 ok, the transmission must be the only limiting factor, not factories or costs etc

[@joeblow9657]

@@JohnsonTheSecond I thought you meant better as in given what you have in the field which would you prefer? Yeah if we include cost than it's another matter but theoretically, the panther (if it didn't break down) could justify it's high cost in it's battlefield effectiveness compared to the Panzer 4. Obviously this is a flawed argument but still

[@JohnsonTheSecond]

@@joeblow9657 It was based on something Brandon said - Roughly "In every way ... including cost and durability?"

[@TimDutch]

@@JohnsonTheSecond I read a book about a Dutch Waffen SS men, He said the Panther was one shot accurate up to 800 meters. The book is called: Wiking

[@deutschamerikaner]

It’s like Smithsonian doesn’t have any historians, only journalists.

[@_tertle3892]

If that’s so they should be hiring historians to check information against

[@deutschamerikaner]

@Petr Finifear Exactly

[@alphaomega203]

Not journalists but directors and show writers with an idea of a target audience and unfamiliarity of what they are creating. The intent of the show is purely for entertainment and dramatic effect and not accuracy.

[@deutschamerikaner]

Alpha Omega Yeah. I wasn’t sure about calling them journalists, but the sensationalizing they are doing fits the description imo.

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

Isn't the Smithsonian an actual research institute?

[@AtunSheiFilms]

Holy shit! New camera!

[@BrandonF]

Yep! Looking forward to doing some shooting someplace other than my own apartment.

[@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151]

Gotta admit, Deadliest Warrior is a guilty pleasure of mine. Also, THEY HAVE EVEN DONE HISTORICAL FIGURE COMPARISONS SUCH AS GEORGE WASHINGTON VS NAPOLEON BONAPARTE *AND EVEN VAMPIRES VS ZOMBIES* but I still enjoy it for pure dumb fun.

[@glynthomas3133]

same here Deadliest warrior was just dumb fun for me as well

[@rileyosteen6470]

The result of Vamps v Zombies pisses me off to this very day

[@ahistoryfanatic5683]

Nap vs Washington was probably the stupidest episode, but yeah, I enjoyed it too. I remember watching an episode around 6 years ago, which was the SWAT vs GSG-9 one

[@Tareltonlives]

Guilty pleasure for me too. I actually heard about the Rajput, Zande, Maori and Spetznaz that way. The show got them completely wrong, but it got me interested. Just wish they had a better program around them.

[@thepuffin4050]

@@glynthomas3133 I watched it until the episode where they "prove" that Washington and the Continental Army would defeat Napoleon and his Grand Army

[@dannythehonestgamer6051]

"And today we will make a penetration test against a 10 cm thick hardened steel plate with this cannon from 1754 and compare it with a PaK 40 and see who comes out as the winner." That is about how fair and poorly planned and executed this test was.

[@EnSayne987]

"Which weapon will pierce this mock M1 Abrams armor, a TOW-2 anti tank missile or a Chinese wall gun from 1899?"

[@DeansDiscourse]

Daniel Sinks What weapon is the superior weapon against infantry? Tsar bomba with the infantryman directly underneath or A matchlock that just was dredged out of the ocean at 2km The results will shock you!

[@mitsvanmitsvanio6106]

Clearly the matchlock that just was dredged of the ocean at 2km is superior

[@Melody_Raventress]

Quick! Get Ian and Karl!

[@realmario979]

Who can destroy the ottoman forces faster: Some horseman with wings or the modern polish armored forces?

[@bradenculver7457]

France did develop a needle gun in the Chassepot, along with Italy and the Carcano and various other needle guns. Needle guns were a step up from muzzleloades, but proper bolt actions came quickly after.

[@Tareltonlives]

The Chassepot was the Needle Gun done with all the kinks ironed out, a far superior weapon

[@Green0-3]

The guy firing the Brown Bess is clearly a professional shooter, and is loading the weapon in the safe, controlled method used in muzzle loader shooting competitions. Gun ranges, at least where I live, do not allow people to load muskets in the military style, as they consider it unsafe. A few years ago I went to take a course in live ammo musket shooting. When the instructor learnt I was a reenactor, he spent most of the class berating me for being negligent and ignorant I was, and of how risky priming the pan before loading the gun is, claiming the gun would most definitely go off in my face when I rammed down the cartridge (we were using his own guns, btw). He, as well as his other colleagues, wouldn't shut up about how we reenactors are a bunch of lunatics that don't care for our own safety, or that of others. As you can imagine, I dropped out of that course really quickly.

[@alanmackinnon3516]

Why would they think the gun would go of if the is on half cock. Sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about.

[@laurenceperkins7468]

Uhhh... I *ALWAYS* prime or cap the weapon before loading the main charge. For the same reason that when reloading modern metallic cartridges they get reprimed first! You're most likely to accidentally ignite the priming while you're dinking around with it! Wouldn't it be nice if doing so didn't send an ounce of lead downrange? Loading the main charge and then doing the mechanically delicate process of priming is just *ASKING* for an accidental discharge. Yes, a discharge while your hand is in front of the muzzle would be worse, but it's way less likely to happen, and how many people can focus both on the delicate work of priming a weapon and pay constant attention to what's in front of the muzzle? And this is especially true if you're loading a revolver where an accidental ignition while capping the piece will almost certainly be misclocked and it will explode in your hands. I mean, if his guns were so janky that they constantly slip off half-cock when being loaded, then maybe he had a point, but then they'd be dangerous to even use since the slightest bump will set them off.

[@jaxsonh.266]

Second time is the charm it seems

[@BrandonF]

Yep! Just had to change one little part...it just takes so long to render it all!

[@chriscary4074]

@@BrandonF The french had a needle rifle called the chassepot (shas-po)

[@Kaadilac]

I always love how you use the cane as a gun.

[@dmman33]

“Amateurs study tactics, generals study logistics” A video about the Napoleon vs Washington episode of Deadliest Warrior would be awesome!

[@trinalgalaxy5943]

@Dod o Napoleon had a well trained and well equipped army for most of the Napoleonic wars. Washington had a rag tag group of colonists that had minimal training, poor equipment, and spent most of the war on the run. One had the ability to fight battles that may not be entirely advantageous, while the other had to be very precise with where he fought and when he retreated lest he lose his army, support, and the war. there is very little in common between the situation the two had to operate within.

[@petriew2018]

@Dod o the list of generals better than George Washington, even in his lifetime, is actually quite long indeed. His importance to history has little to do with his abilities as a tactician. And i say that as an american.

[@derpimusmaximus8815]

@@trinalgalaxy5943 Baron von Steuben would like a word.

[@CAPNGRIZZ]

I nearly choked when they declared Washington was a better general then Napoleon. Great, Washington fought off the Redcoats. Napoleon took on all of Europe with over 60 battles under his belt and almost won but hey Washington was clearly the best general. Would love it if Brandon at least covered that particular episode Deadliest Warrior he would have a field day with it.

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

​@trinalgalaxy5943 You forget Napoleon's earliest campaigns though, where the French republican army was much smaller and weaker, and crushing defeat could very well have been unrecoverable. Really that applies to his career from Toulon up until around Marengo, the Napoleon everyone's familiar with would fully emerge around the Third Coalition

[@iliadnetfear2586]

R Lee Ermy (Rest his soul) once did a similar test between a Brown Bess and a Pennsylvania Rifle, and the one using the Brown Bess was an actual Brown Bess fan that got off all 3 rounds in a minute, while Ermy barely got 2. They only did one test, but it was more accurate than the Smithsonian's. Then comparing Springfield 1906 to Lee Enfield, then Enfield to Garand. Only one test, but was more fair.

[@prickliestcactus]

Next comparison: Wheellock musket vs M1 carbine

[@podemosurss8316]

2:55 Actually the French adopted a similar yet distinctive breech-loading firearm, the Chassepot rifle, and the US introduced the 1861 Spencer rifle, which was a repeating lever-action breech-loader (instead of the bolt mechanism it used a lever-and-trigger mechanism to reload even faster), though it wasn't produced in great numbers and in the ACW most units used the older Springfield model 1841, later in 1871 the Remington lever-action rifle was introduced (and it was also used by many other countries, including Spain, most South American countries and China).

[@Gunfreak19]

One of the reasons the Spencer wasn't adopted everywhere was a logistic problem, it was hard enough supplying enough ammo when soldiers fired 2 or 3 rounds a minute. How do you supply 80 000 men or more when they fire 20 rounds a minute. Tens of thousands of Spencer rifles and carbines were used in the western theater after 64. Whole cavalry corps of 9000 would be armed with them. As well as some temporary mounted infantry formations and some lucky infantry regiments too(like the 46th Ohio, who got the Spencer in april of 64)

[@Tareltonlives]

@@Gunfreak19 Then the Spencer got eclipsed by the Henry then the Remington. It was revolutionary, but it only had a brief time to shime.

[@Gunfreak19]

@@Tareltonlives only 14 000 Henry rifles were made compared to 200 000 Spencer rifles, the Spencer was used well into the late 19th century, side by side with the Winchester.

[@SGWeber]

...and unlike the Dreyse, the Chassepot could hold multiple rounds. It also had a longer range. But noooo, we have to always talk about how great Prussia was because Americans inherited the British hate for the French

[@Tareltonlives]

@@Gunfreak19 I did not know that. Interesting

[@notbadsince97]

Throughout history small arms have actually played a very small role in actually determine the course of a battle and war. Being a generation between small arms in the grand schemes of things isn’t that big of a deal. Why the Prussians managed to win against Austria and later France (even though at that time the French had developed a better rifle) was their use of the railways for quick movements and having much better artillery. Edit: Also can you review Turn: Washington Spies

[@Gunfreak19]

Yes, strategy and logistics win a war. I'm sure American GI felt superior with their semi auto rifles, but in actual combat it had no real advantage. The lack of designated LMG probably was far more detrimental than any small advantage the semi auto rifle would bring. Rifles are not very accurate (because soldiers aren't very accurate in combat)

[@simplymadness8849]

Gunfreak19 The US as a general rule had one LMG per squad. Sometimes more. The German idea of the belt fed GPMG is superior and the BAR wasn’t a great LMG on its own but it was still there. I agree that most people overstate the importance of the individual rifle in combat, they think one rifle being slightly superior to another is enough to carry the day but what they fail to understand is that the rifle is just one single component in the combined arms machinery. That is to say nothing about the effect that supply, tactics, strategy, infrastructure, morale etc have on the outcome of battles. However, I think stating that the standard issue semi automatic rifle had no real advantage is going to far in the opposite direction. Can an individual soldier even contemplate the idea of suppressing fire armed only with a bolt action? Putting more firepower in the individual’s hands makes the unit as a whole much more flexible. Seems this was discovered or maybe rediscovered during the course of the war as the major powers scrambled to manufacture SMGs in the Soviet case and semi/ automatic rifles in the German case and issue them to as many grunts as possible.

[@Gunfreak19]

@@simplymadness8849 but an BAR isn't an LMG it's an automatic rifle. And a very different animal from say true magazine fed LMGs like the Bren. The bren is crew served. And when crewed by two skilled operators the average rate of fire over a 5 minute period is the same as with an Mg34 or 42. The bar is a rifle that is automatic, and so have the exact same problems as an garand or lee Enfield.

[@simplymadness8849]

Gunfreak19 Both the BAR1918A2 and BREN are AUTOMATIC weapons chambered in a full powered RIFLE cartridge fed from detachable box magazines, equipped with a bipod and are crew served. Yes the BAR was also crewed by a two man team in a similar way to the BREN, with one gunner and one ammo carrier. “Automatic rifle” is an antiquated hold over term from The Great War period before such categories as Light Machine Gun, Heavy Machine Gun and General Purpose Machine Gun were commonly used. Automatic Rifle, Light Machine Gun and even Squad Automatic Weapon are synonymous terms for the same concept.

[@petriew2018]

@@simplymadness8849 the BAR was honestly a pretty crappy LMG, all things considered, because it wasn't designed to be one. The ROF is far too high for the cartridge to have any hope of controlling it. the ergonomics of the gun are geared towards hip fire, not prone. The bottom feed made it slow to reload a fairly small capacity magazine. It was never meant for the role it was used for in ww2. Great large capacity automatic rifle, but compared to the Bren (probably the best LMG fielded in large numbers... because it was designed from the start to be an LMG. Lower ROF for better control, well designed bipod, quick change mag system), yeah, the Americans were sorely lacking in that respect. Seriously, the BAR is all but useless in full auto, unless the enemy is easily scared by loud noises.

[@somepolishmoment9118]

Smithsonian be like: Deutschen Qualität

[@jaypea30]

Relatable Haha

[@bootdude7527]

No

[@sebastianriemer1777]

Deutsche Qualität bitte. ☝🏻

[@SteveKillerLP]

@@sebastianriemer1777 Ja ja Grammatik ist wichtig!

[@ChristheRedcoat]

16:55 Okay, watching that made me irrationally angry.

[@thegreatcommisar2924]

I like how you posted this at 1:40a.m. dedication my good sir dedication

[@fellaknee8429]

me n the boys always stan for the homeboy Brandon F

[@podemosurss8316]

10:11 Well, in the context of the Bewegungskrieg, specially as used by Helmut von Molkte the elder it was really efficient against percussion cap firearms at the time, as was shown in the Prussian-Danish wars and in the Prussian-Austrian war of 1866.

[@sebastianriemer1777]

The best weapon systems are useless if you don't use the right tactics and strategies to use their full potential. The French of the later 19th and early 20th century are really good examples of it.

[@podemosurss8316]

@@sebastianriemer1777 That's why I said "in the context of the Bewegungskrieg"...

[@farmerboy916]

@@sebastianriemer1777 Yes? But that doesn't mean that taking a weapons system out of its context and saying "well now it's bad because it isn't automatically superior!" works...

[@ascendedfashy9632]

Love your stuff mate. Just a quick note, dreyse is pronounced drei-ze. Keep up the good work mate!

[@BrandonF]

Oh, you'll be the first of many to mention it, I'm sure!

[@ascendedfashy9632]

@@BrandonF don't feel like I'm giving you a hard time or anything, just a tip.

[@kanalkucker14]

And another thing about the German: A Wunderwaffe would be eine Wunderwaffe not ein Wunderwaffe, because we have changing articles in German 🤓🤓

[@skepticalbadger]

@@BrandonF They're not wrong though are they?

[@CAP198462]

If you’re going to discuss the “Dude-liest” Warrior, I feel it my duty to require and request commentary on the episode of the third season that proved so controversial that the expert declared J’accuse! (Ahem, hint)

[@Overlord99762]

Could you elaborate?

[@CAP198462]

Commander Shepard Napoleon vs Washington, the expert for Napoleon Bonaparte said Washington won because the show was 🇺🇸.

[@Overlord99762]

@@CAP198462 hot damn

[@cdcdrr]

​@@CAP198462 I don't want to crap on Americans, but on almost every conceivable level, Napoleon was a better tactician that Washington. But it's a worthless comparison. Not only did Napoleon have the benefit of half a century of technological development, and a much more populous, developed nation, and more capable opponents than Washington, it's focussing on only part of each man's accomplishments. Washington may have been an average commander, but he was a shrewd politician and strategist and he's better remembered for shaping a fledgling nation. Napoleon was also a great lawmaker, and redefined Europe by making a mockery of the old empires and their aristocratic traditions. But a rather poor strategist when you start asking "and then what?". Also not very diplomatic. Of course, that probably doesn't make for exciting battle scenes. And yeah, the program just seems horribly biased. I mean, did anyone expect the Taliban to win against IRA in the post-9/11 world?

[@michaelsinger4638]

Washington was not even the best commander in the Continental Army itself. Someone like Nathanael Greene would have been a better choice for example.

[@zombielizard218]

So this is essentially "Which is better, a British Mk IV Heavy Tank or an M1 Abrams?" It's about the same passage of time between the two.

[@dernwine]

The MkIV is better.

[@LtBob38]

@@dernwine Can fit more people, has more guns, Engine is conveniently inside the tank cabin so anyone in crew can fiddle with it if it breaks, much lighter, and of course shaped like a parallelogram. It's no contest

[@jerry2357]

Yes, but the speed of technological development has consistently increased since the Industrial Revolution, so this also is not a fair comparison. The percussion cap rifle musket was not a big technological leap from the Brown Bess, despite incorporating three important developments (rifling, the percussion cap and the Minie ball) that improved accuracy and slightly improved the rate of fire. The big step change in firearms development in the 19th century was the muzzle-loading to breech-loading shift, and gas escape caused problems with early paper-cartridge models such as the Dreyse and Chassepot, which were only solved properly when the metallic cartridge was developed. In contrast, automotive technology progressed by leaps and bounds in the 20th century. There were so many developments between the British landships and the modern MBT. In fact, so rapid was technological development in the 20th century, that a comparison between a Mk 4 and an M4 Sherman would be less fair than comparison between a Brown Bess and a Dreyse, despite the much shorter development time.

[@arhexirthesnake]

It seems that people still ingore costs to produce, costs to maintain, how a weapon would work in totally different climates etc.

[@elbolainas4174]

A pirate Vs a knight? An Spartan Vs a ninja? You're literally describing chivalry: deadliest warrior

[@jrobson100]

The needle rifle was influential in that people looked at it and said "This has potential, but how about we figure out a way to not have a long, thin firing pin at the center of repeated black powder explosions?" Truth be told, self-contained metallic cartridges were being developed and perfected during the same time period, and anyone involved in military procurement would have been aware of the work being done in that area. Equipping an army with entirely new weapons is a huge expense not only in materials but in training, it's not surprising that the British and French decided to not adopt a cartridge and weapon combination that was likely perceived (correctly) as a technological dead-end.

[@jean-philippedecarie2024]

Are you aware of the Chassepot ? kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3TCiqOjmM1kr5o

[@derpimusmaximus8815]

@@jean-philippedecarie2024 The design required relatively little change to accept the metal Gras cartridge, though, so many of the rifles were converted and remained in use (if not by the French army) until at least the Greek resistance in WW2.

[@Tareltonlives]

@@derpimusmaximus8815 Antoine Alphonse Chassepot basically looked as the Dreyse and went "This needs the kinks worked out"

[@derpimusmaximus8815]

@@Tareltonlives I mean, that's the fate of every big shift in weapons design. Someone comes up with an idea, makes it work, then someone else makes it work better, and so on through the iterations until the cost of improving it is higher than the cost of replacing it with something new (which has the features you're now looking to add).

[@Tareltonlives]

@@derpimusmaximus8815 Exactly. The Needle gun was an improvement on previous percussion caps in the mechanism, and inspired further innovation. It was merely one step past the previous generation of arms.

[@amcalabrese1]

I’d like to see a comparison of an Athenian trireme and a Nimitz class aircraft carrier. Who would win?

[@thepuffin4050]

My vote is on a third party, an old European garbage scow by the name of Luft that has sailed the Danube for 56 years. Superior firepower, worse smell, awesome urban camouflage in the form of rusty joints, two-thirds of the rivets removed for speed and weight. Truly the superior vessel, or as the Smithsonian would say, better in every way. I defy you to name a fleeter, sleeker, more elegant vessel on the waters. Yeah, I need sleep. Also, I don't know if such a boat exists, so don't bother looking it up.

[@WW-jp2yq]

My favourite Deadliest Warriors comparison was the Irish Republican Army vs Al Qaida (I'm not joking, this was a real episode)

[@glynthomas3133]

that one was the only one that actually had any comparison worth to watch, because the tactics were about the same and the weapons really didn't change to much, except with the IRA using a slingshot

[@mikeoxsmal8022]

@@glynthomas3133 slingshot a true wunderwafle

[@EnSayne987]

BASED AND TERRORPILLED

[@Melody_Raventress]

I was expecting a joke. I am genuinely surprised. Well, I can always go watch The History Channel, there’s a joke.

[@Tareltonlives]

The Taliban. I'd call it the worst episode...but then they had Saddam Hussein fight Pol Pot.

[@charlessaint7926]

"Okay, we're going to decide which repeating rifle from the Civil War was best! Here we have a .44 caliber Henry rifle and on the other we have an MG-42!"

[@desthomas8747]

One live firing we did we had 32 muskets, in two ranks, (approx 2/3rds matchlock 1/3 Flint) range 125yds. We set up a target of approx 32 figures drawn firing in two including drawing muskets. After firing and taking misfires into consideration we found approx 26 ball hitting the overall target area approx 17 hitting a figure and more intrestingly 7 of them hit a drawing of a musket.

[@wanderinghistorian]

The musket guy had no "sense of urgency" as we say in my workplace. I am nobody and I could get more than 1 shot in 60 seconds. Geez this was rigged.

[@wanderinghistorian]

Is...is that a poster depicting British Redcoats fighting a dragon?

[@Tareltonlives]

And now I request a review of Deadliest Warrior: Washington vs Napoleon

[@Tareltonlives]

Reminds me of how Deadliest Warrior portrayed the Spartan. "Nothing can get through a giant bronze shield, and the Spartans held off a giant army for two days (ignoring the fact that they LOST, or how the Greeks had 7,000 men there, or how they used terrain to magnify their advantages), therefore the Spartan is the deadliest warrior before gunpowder". Ignoring everything we know about the limitations of Hoplite warfare.

[@Tareltonlives]

Watching the video: this is SO deadliest warrior 1. Different operators for the different weapons-check. "Huh, the comedian isn't using a kanabo as well as a martial artist. Guess it must be less effective against a Spartan shield" "This historian and martial artist aren't as good a shot as a Lakota bowyer with decades of archery experience. Guess the Mongol isn't as good an archer" "These experienced period gunmen are wiping the floor with these old Mafia descendants-so Capone's Outfit would have had far inferior skill than the James-Younger Gang" 2. Non-repeated tests-check. One faulty Lewis gun got Teddy Roosevelt to beat T E Lawrence. Two tests and we get "AR is more accurate than the AK but less reliable" 3. Non-optimal operators-check. A 20th century Sikh from Toronto is not going to use a khanda as well as a 15th Rajput warrior trained from birth. A Mexican martial artist or Irish hobbyist isn't going to have the same skill slinging as an Aztec or Briton warrior. A stuntman is not the same as a Hawaiian Koa with familiarity on how to wield a sharktooth sword. And of course Wushu is not the same as actual military skill. Sure, you can't bring people through time like Bill and Ted, but you can definitely find someone more professional.

[@Tareltonlives]

@Phillip That should have totally have been the premise for Deadliest Warrior. "Okay, does anyone here speak Old Norse?"

[@lucasmatiasdelaguilamacdon7798]

Well, as an academy historian, I must say that the trend of “comparative studies” seems to be quite on vogue now for some reason. However it has been refined quite a lot since it was first introduced as a formal methodology for anthropological studies back in the social turn of the 20th Century. This means comparing two cultures or historical elements is a valid form of study, IF IT FOLLOWS A STRICT CONTEXT AND BUILDS A THEORETICAL FRAMEWORK TO PROPERLY WORK WITH. I’d say that some people must have seen some compararive study of any given topic at some point, they read the title without even analyzing it in depth and then said “hey let’s make something like this” and then out of misinformation and ignorance on historical methodology they just picked two random things to compare just because they looked cool and said “hey this will catch the attention of people.” Or maybe they said “nah the common folk won’t read the 20 pages of theoretical framework that needs to be built to justify the comparative study in question... let’s just take these two things because they look cool and/or create controversy so that we get the clout.”

[@BrandonF]

Exactly! Comparative work CAN be good...but in popular history, it is often just shallow and aesthetically based.

[@lucasmatiasdelaguilamacdon7798]

I once had to make a comparison during a presentation between a Baker rifle from 1815 and a Chassepot rifle from 1866. It was because those weapons were both used in battle against each other in 1880. The Bolivians used flintlock rifles against the Chileans due to lack of material, and the comparison here could be valid as a way to showcase not just how good both weapons were against each other, but why and when they were used, in which specific context, by what forces, and with what purpose. Always pointing out how by Victorian era standards, this was an exception, not a rule.

[@makinapacal]

@@BrandonF Yes! As someone with an Anthropology degree I thoroughly approve. After all comparative studies are extremely common in Anthropology.

[@pablojn4826]

@@lucasmatiasdelaguilamacdon7798 Are you sure? I have never heard or read the use of Baker rifles in that war, the most outdated weapon used in battle by the Bolivian army (to my knowledge) was the breech loading British Enfield of 1856 PD: Hola Lucas, no te he visto desde ese directo, como estai?

[@Tareltonlives]

Well put. To use Deadliest Warrior, you can compare the tactics of Pancho Villa and Crazy Horse in the context of irregular American warfare and the transitioning to modern technology, or compare the Charlesville to the Brown Bess for strengths and weaknesses and why they were so comparative but never crossed over the channel. But comparing a Ninja to a Spartan? A Centurion to a Rajput? The James Gang to the Chicago Outfit? That's not only taking them out of context, but you're not really learning anything about them. You can say "Okay, this is how both the Comanche and the Mongol built empires coming from similar nomaidc origins" or "George Washington and Napoleon used the same technology and equipment in very different ways and adopted their tactics to the circumstances and here's how they compare" , but just throwing Shaka Zulu against William Wallace isn't going to help It doesn't help when things are taken out of context. Ninjas should be compared with other spies: pirates are not spies. Classical Greece did not have a specific spy class. And you don't have a scenario. You can use this comparative study to teach; "Okay, here's a reconstruction of how a ninja can infiltrate a pirate ship" to teach about both. Or a what if scenario "What if Persia invaded Gaul during the 5th century BC" to teach about both. But reconstructing a Shaolin Monk as this unstoppable killer armed with every weapon China ever used is misinformation.

[@blacktemplar2323]

The french did adopt the chassepot needle rifle as a reaction tot the prussians. It did see active combat use during the franco-prussian war. The main disadvantage of the dreyse needle rifle to contemporary rifled muskets was its lower accuracy, which is why some countrys did not adopt them at the beginning. The needles in the dreyse rifles were fragile and since they had to penetrate through the entire cartridge could break, this was later improved in designs like the chassepot. I would generally recommend the videos of Forgotten Weapons on this subject, beacause the history and mechanics of these weapons is well explained in them. I also think that comparing a needle rifle to a musket is a good idea in general, since they existed at the same time and were used by opposing forces in the war between austia and prussia, but i agree that the comparison by the smithsonian was less than optimal. Edit: As others already mentioned the main reason why needle rifles were only adopted by german states, the french and italians was that wile the development of the needle firing systems was still going on the adoption of metallic cartridges instead of paper ones made them obsolete.

[@Tareltonlives]

The French defeat was all about poor generalship, not poor soldiers or poor weapons

[@farmerboy916]

@@Tareltonlives ... I agree with you, but want to disagree because of how you reflexively brought it up when that wasn't mentioned at all.

[@Tareltonlives]

@@farmerboy916 I was agreeing with the comment

[@junglejim9551]

Just a reminder that in terms of the gaps between when these weapons were used, it's like comparing a BAR with an FN M249 in the role of a support gunner. Such a shame how all any major source seems to care about is clickbaiting content that makes them money.

[@michaelray4033]

It's not a good sign for the "Establishment" when they can be so easily shredded by KZbin. Good job Brandon.

[@ThatGuy182545]

The reason you say “rifled musket” is because it conjures the image of what it is in a concise manner. “Rifled musket” is less cumbersome to say than “Muzzle loading rifle.”

[@AudieHolland]

The gent 'operating' the musket forgot his wheelchair: a highly mobile and stable gunplatform.

[@Flintlock_And_Tomahawk]

10:50, Brandon flexing his 6th grade science class skills

[@kinglouiev9530]

The reason why most American soldiers in the 1860s continues to use smooth bore muskets converted into percussion caps is because they used both Minié balls & shot rounds. It’s the reason why most modern shotguns have a smooth barrel instead of rifling.

[@raptorcell6633]

"Why an F-16 is better than a Sopwith Camel"

[@ironicchungles5912]

Small farb, towards the end of the Dreyse’s use the British Empire also began using the breach loading Snider Enfield.

[@joeblow9657]

26:19 are you questioning the way of the sword here Brandon?? Don't let the neckbeards know or they'll think you're a filthy casual

[@warrenlehmkuhleii8472]

Why the M4 Assault Carbine is better than the M1903 in every way! - Coming to the Smithsonian 2020.

[@cameronmcallister7606]

"As you can see, the Bren is far superior to the Arquebus! Unlike the guns of its time the Bren was Magazine fed..."

[@podemosurss8316]

4:30 Because it's an early model? I mean, bolt-action rifles took over later as the main infantry rifles for use in industrial war, but this was later after better models were introduced (Chassepot, Mauser, Lee-Enfield...)

[@AudieHolland]

Upon entering the workplace, I had no previous experience filling envelopes with different documents, papers. Don't laugh but the proper and efficient way to fill envelopes could be compared to the efficient loading of a musket. To make sure that all papers were inside and not sticking out for a bit, one had to tap the filled envelope a few times on the desk, like a grenadier would ram his rod into the barrel. I found out that the collecting of the different documents wasn't the most time consuming (just have them in piles, 1 to 10, then walk past picking one item from each pile while walking past). No, it was the tapping of the envelope. I saw that most other temp workers were tapping the filled envelope 3, 4, even 5 times! So I worked out a simple technique where I made sure that a single tap would suffice. The secret was to have all the different papers in a neat 'package' together before inserting them into the envelope. Without much effort, I finished in the top 3 of envelope fillers. I have never had to use that vital skill again, however. Because it was just a temp job for a single weekend.

[@jashin5252]

I love Deadliest Warrior, started my love of learning about combat.

[@Fede_uyz]

Next up in the Smithsonian's channel: "Why an M16 beats a needle gun in every way" I mean, the needle gun and the m16's creation were also about 100 years of difference just like how the brown vest and the needle rifle are

[@jerry2357]

Firearms comparisons can be done well, for instance britishmuzzleloaders has done tests between succeeding generations of British small arms from muzzle-loading flintlocks up to the Lee-Enfield rifle.

[@fitzroys5255]

22:52 Blimey he doesn't know headshot will do twice the amount of damage? Unsubscribed

[@EnSayne987]

I concur, how else does one guarantee kills to earn their money and buy better weapons? Does he think that Germans in WWII for example just RECEIVED semi and full auto rifles? Obviously they used their points from mowing down ZE IWAN HORDES that they unlocked a Sturngewehr. Truly preposterous.

[@joeblow9657]

I mean really. This is getting childish. Every intelligent man knows head shots gain twice the XP

[@leighrate]

If it had been a comparison between a needle rifle & a muzzle loading rifle, using a minié ball/percussion cap for the purpose of demonstrating why the needle system was a quantum leap, then it would have been a legitimate comparison. But I would have followed that up with a demonstration of how the advent of metallic cartridges also obsoleted the minié rather quickly.

[@braeduin]

Favourite moment from Deadliest warrior was when they were comparing Shaolin Monk with Maori warrior and the were looking at some of the Monk's weapons. One weapon looked like it was the inspiration for Star Trek's Klingon gear, and the Maori guy in a fit of meat headed masculine bravado said "If a Maori got hit by that he'd just shrug it off" and everyone turned round and looked at him in complete disbelief. I had a good chuckle there.

[@Tareltonlives]

Aka the episode where they gave the Shaolin weapons that didn't exist while the temple was around (477-1641. By the time the Shaolin had 9-section whips, emei daggers and hook swords, the Maori had shotguns) and the Maori a Hawaiian sword (I did read once that such weapons were used by the Maori in very early days but were quickly discarded in favor of patu)

[@xdenricoudx]

“Reloading on the go” Reminds me of a certain game... I wonder what it is...

[@pablojn4826]

Holdfast "The Napoleonic Voicechat boogaloo"

[@xdenricoudx]

Lol

[@christinaiiinowell5649]

Brandon why did you reveal the secrets to click bait, also use the plans mate, don’t make the thing your response but make the title something like “Is the Smithsonian doing drugs?”

[@podemosurss8316]

5:19 These terms like "rifled musket" or "musket-rifle" appeared most prominently in the late XVIII and early XIX century, when rifling was seen as more efficient but still there were practical issues that prevented every firearm to be rifled. With the adoption of the paper cartridge and the proliferation of easier rifling mechanisms, however, rifled muzzle-loading firearms proliferated after the Napoleonic wars, with examples being the British Enfield rifles, the French Minié rifles or the Spanish M1828 Musket-Rifle, used by both sides during the Carlist Wars (a series of civil wars that ensued in XIX century Spain).

[@nath9091]

Pretty sure it was just the Minie ball design which was used in most if not all the first generation general use rifled muskets. Paper cartridges had been around since at least the Revolutionary War and probably before as pissing around trying to pour flasks in combat was obviously detrimental to safety and ROF.

[@podemosurss8316]

@@nath9091 Good point, the thing is the concept of a single cartridge holding both standarized bullet and gunpowder. The Spanish M1828 is previous, though (it used a round ball, not a Minié bullet).

[@podemosurss8316]

@john Mullholand Yes, but they weren't loaded TOGETHER on a single movement, you first poured the gunpowder and then the bullet (ah, and in the XVII century they were no cartridges). In this case you poured both gunpowder and bullet at the same time, which was more efficient. Otherwise it can take a whole minute to reload a muzzle-loading rifle...

[@skepticalbadger]

Rifle musket/rifled musket is strictly a 19th century term, at least in English. A musket with rifling as opposed to the previous dedicated rifle gun, or 'rifle' for short.

[@podemosurss8316]

@@skepticalbadger Yes. A musket-rifle would be a rifle model produced as a rifled version of an already existing musket model.

[@WiseSnake]

Ah! Glorious 360p!

[@BrandonF]

Give it some time- I actually have a new camera which looks much nicer!

[@batman6621]

Brandon F: noooo you cant just compare 2 weapons in a terrible and unreliable test. Smithsonian: Haha wunderwaffe go brrrrr

[@jamestarbet9608]

This is the reason I subscribe to yours and other reenactors' channels and ignore Smithsonian and History Channel. Well researched, responsibly presented, entertaining. Carry on Good Sir!

[@dredlord47]

There were also lever-action, repeating, rifled muskets. The Winchester Model of 1886 had one such variant, though they only made 250 of them. A musket is any firearm, 30 inches in the barrel, which has the capacity to affix a bayonet.

[@chringlanthegreat4556]

I would say that the dreyse needle rifle would be the start of a wonder weapon, the bolt action rifle would make the traditional use of cavalry very difficult to use effectively, with infantry being able to shot many rounds at the cavalry and make frontal charges useless as they would be shot down in droves by disciplined soldiers. So as it may be (I am not very well versed in how you repel cavalry in this period) I think that you could consider it as a wonder weapon in a way. Also Brandon if you’re reading this, will you make a video on British army uniforms trough the ages?

[@Tareltonlives]

We should try to do a fundraiser for you to do a video on "Deadliest Warrior: Washington vs Napoleon"

[@sumvs5992]

I've heard rumours that a follow up to this episode will be testing an MG42 against a M4. The person testing the M4 will be a veteran, and the person manning the MG42 will be a child. It doesn't matter that these two weapons have different purposes and applications, and one of them is manned by a crew, the MG42 is inferior

[@Kaadilac]

Hey LAD. Dont ya want a little WAGER on the RATTAY TOURNEY?

[@F_lippy]

Your intro referring to tv channels trying to fluff up a subject to seem more amazing made me think back to my favorite iteration of this trend. I'll always think back to R. Lee Ermey's first episode on his tv show _Lock N Load_ where they overplayed the matter of comparing the Ak-47 with the M-16.

[@mart4144]

This is want I want to see everyday at 1AM.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

For a great example the main time the needle rifle was used in the Franco-Prussian War it was hated as it was far inferior to the Chassepot rifle (the Chassepot rifle was newer but a lot more contemporary than a brown bess to the needle rifle).

[@maple7093]

Smoothbore Musket: musket without rifling Rifled musket: musket with rifling rifle: smol musket musket size > rifle size. Hope that clears some of your "not a firearms expert" things.

[@fuferito]

I'm liking Brandon's Lindybeige persona in this video.

[@MrMaiaBang]

Spectacular quality Brandon, keep these coming, extra wit mode is my favorite mode

[@TheStapleGunKid]

The Dreyse needle gun really was a "wonder weapon" for its time. It absolutely dominated the muzzle loaders used by other armies, and the Europeans and Americans were fools for failing to either use it or come up with something better. The sad thing is, America got its first Breech loading rifle in 1819, the Hall rifle. Yet it still had muzzle loaders as standard issue weapons for their troops in the Civil War four decades later.

[@kingtigerthomas318-69]

Nothing is better in every way EG: M1 Abrams: I am the BEST tank in the world T14 Armata: What... Challenger 2: seriously Leopard 2: Hey my turret is near impenetrable Merkava: ...

[@SonsOfLorgar]

IR-homing top-attack mortar shells: So what? U all dead from 4miles away.

[@maxwellclark6992]

Merkava has probably the best crew survivability, it was designed for that over everything. And you are right there is no “best” tank, the Abrams is probably not the best nor is challenger, or leopard, T-14 Armata probably has its flaws too. Everything is superior in its own way

[@kingtigerthomas318-69]

Merkava has it's engine on the front absorbing all the hits for the crew, which is great crew protection, The Leopard 2 probably has the strongest frontal turret as you would need a APFSDS round that has a length of around 1 meter to penetrate the front turret which currently does not exist

[@kingtigerthomas318-69]

Challenger 2 could take nearly hundreds of RPG rounds which is kinda crazy, but it's gun is a rifled gun which means it can't fire HEAT rounds (Guided missile ones, the spin given to the projectile by the rifled barrel disperses the Shaped-Charge's energy which leads to lower penetration)

[@kingtigerthomas318-69]

M1 Abrams, while many people who does not know that much about tanks assume it's the best in the world, it does pose a few issues like it's got a freaking "Flat" cheek on the front turret, it's rather gigantic as ergonomics are prioritized over vehicle dimensions, at least it's ammo rack won't blow up the crew.

[@blogbalkanstories4805]

I agree with your assessment of the test. No argument there, you made your point well. As for the needle rifle itself: It was one of those short lived fire armed technologies around the middle of the 19th century that offered signifcant advantages, and was soon replaced by technologies for which it helped pave the way. Another one of these is the percussion lock rifle. Essentially, it saw widespread use for only around a quarter of a century, from around 1840 to the end of the American Civil War. By then, breech loaders had become a practical thing, which themselves were soon replaced by repeating rifles from the 1870's and 1880's on. In that sense, the Dreye Zündnadelgewehr was ahead of is time by probably around 15 years or so. The main advantage it offered though was not necessarily the faster reloading and thus firing. It was that you could even load it lying down or kneeling. This is something you can not do with a muzzle loader. It was this that is widely believed to be the key advantage the Prussian army had at the battle against the Austrians at Königgrätz - essentially the only major battle in which both the needle rifle and muzzle loaders saw widespread use against each other.

[@alamoemperor3845]

as a german myself, Hearing people call various german weapons "wunderwaffen" is kind of meh, mainly used by the history channel and "wehraboos" now i question these people, if these waffen were so wunderbar, why did we still lose the war? Maybe bc instead of being wonders of arms crafting they were but propaganda pieces. To think these ww2 propaganda terms would be used by something like the smithsonian for such a rifle is kind of funny to me, when a real wunderwaffe would propably be more something akin to the lebel, which changed so much in an instant. Love your vids!

[@alamoemperor3845]

@Phillip you are very right with that, every one of those wunderweapons was more of propganda bc in the end, we germans lacked everything else. The reason tanks like the ratte or maus would never have worked even with the right crew is bc something was always lacking, be it air, fuel, ammo and anything else im forgetting. in the end they only work to make the history channel pump out more documentarys about how mystic and op the wehrmacht was and whatnot

[@rictusmetallicus]

Why a phased plasma rifle in the 40W range beats a NSG 15mm assault rifle in any way

[@Nonsense010688]

""Wonderwaffe" from 1866" Wasn't it already outdated and overtaken by french guns at that time? (which would have made big difference if german artillery wasn't better then french)

[@jamesmorgan3764]

Prussian Marshall and tactics where also better then the French along with their commanders such as moltke

[@pablojn4826]

@@jamesmorgan3764 ReD TrOuSeRs ArE FrAnCe! (*shittyfluted version of the Marseillase plays on the background*)

[@Tareltonlives]

The Chassepot was invented in 66 and indeed took inspiration from the Needle Gun, but with its limitations and weaknesses in mind and consciously improved on it. The Franco Prussian War was won by German leadership and strategic and tactical skill, not material arms. The Millatreuse and Chassepot would have wiped out the Prussian army if Napoleon III had a better army.

[@jamesmorgan3764]

@@pablojn4826 lol

[@petriew2018]

sort of. the problem was more the French treated it like a slightly better musket and didn't adapt tactically. The Prussians adapted their tactics to the strength of their weapons. France also technically had an early version of a machine gun.... but treated it like extremely small caliber artillery. circa 1860~ was a wild time for gun development, the american civil war led to a lot of new inventions in what had been a pretty stagnant industry, but the powers that were in Europe were slow on the uptake, until Prussia combined the tech with new tactics to shake things up.

[@95DarkFire]

13:10 What I dislike most about this comaprison, much more than the lack of scientific method, is the negativity. The Dreyse is a successor to the flintlock. Instead how saying how slow and and lacking the musket is, they should have pointed out how much the Dreyse is IMPROVED. It can be very interesting to compare different time periods. But it can be done without disparaging the past. This scene makes the musket look like a bad design.

[@michalberanek2783]

The title is actually pretty accurate. Of course a needlefire breech loader from an age of percussion breech/muzzle loaders beats out a flintlock muzzle loader in almost every way

[@larskjar]

One of the major reasons breech loading weapons were not broadly introduced was also that running out of ammunition was a serious worry for armies of hundreds of thousands of men being supplied by horse cart. Generals were simply worried that with the much higher rate of fire (combined with poorer range and accuracy) the troops would shoot off all their ammo and there would be nothing to resupply, as this advanced ammunition could not be aquired locally. This is presumably part of the reason why it was mostly introduced along with railways for transport.

[@Flintlock_And_Tomahawk]

Loving the new suit, it seems to fit someone of your nature a bit more

[@davidburroughs7068]

"C'mon, what is ninety years among friends?" - Smithsonian This would be a great question for the S, "what the heck are you thinking comparing a weapon from 1866 (Drasye) with one from the 1770's?"

[@Tareltonlives]

I give you SUN TZU VS VLAD DRACULA

[@charsfm5203]

9:25 love your voice right here! Really brings the joke home

[@rileyernst9086]

Why were they shooting random jars filled with coloured liquid? Everyone knows you should be shooting cans of spray paint. I mean man sized targets, yes man sized targets.

[@BrandEver117]

Erm, I have to disagree. I think the needle gun is definitely better...the rounds follow their target, and if you hit the target with enough rounds in rapid succession, the guy will explode. Also, the exposed crystal shard ammunition can be used as an improvised melee weapon.

[@robertbodell55]

a number of points like any weapons system there are advantages / disadvantages dryse needle gun -Higher rate of fire -easier to reload from a prone or lying position cons poor gas sealing lead to lower effective range 400-600 yards -costs of manufacture it took decades from first adoption for the Prussian army to have significant numbers But now we come to historical context for overlooked factors include - training the Prussian military command were not fools they trained the soldiers how to use more mobile smaller unit tactics taking full advantage of the advantages of the dryse system historically in the period that the dryse featured most prominently the 1860s to 1870 Franco-Prussian War in the 1860s rim fire metallic cartridges were developed and used by a number of firearms that while not adopted universally were adopted selectively some examples in the American Civil war include the Spencer lever action repeating rifle used by certain union cavalry units , Smith and Wesson revolvers used by soldiers as private purchase. So over needle fire it was already starting to appear that metallic cartridges were the next upcoming firearms technology, the main limitation was governments and militaries hesitancy due to matters including costs for production, infrastructure lack of factories that could produce metallic cartridge ammunition in the quantities required by a national military to equip a entire military at length. paper carriages were easy to produce From the Franco Prussian war, at this point the French had adopted a breechloading needle gun the chassepot, which due to a rubber obturator gas seal had a greater effective range than the dryse however the Prussians countered this with superior steel breechloading artillery and better logistics, command and control * Additionally Ian on forgotten weapons has videos on both the chassepot and the dryse, which are quite informative on the subject

[@killertigerace]

Oh god that video Yes let’s compare one of the first breech loading guns in mass use versus a flintlock musket that would’ve been used by reserve/militia units by then, by having two 70 year old men have a firing contest

[@Women_Rock]

“I should trust them because they’re an established brand” _every stupid person_

[@horsemumbler1]

What would win? A Bradley Fighting Vehicle, or the Hindenburg? How about a Spwith Camel Vs. a Girl Scout troop?

[@jamesfrancis7025]

Keep standing up to the cancer of dumbed down and sensationalist entertainment posing as documentaries

[@SvensHistoryLab]

Actually the Brown Bess India pattern was introduced in 1794

[@skepticalbadger]

1793.

[@SvensHistoryLab]

JonMacFhearghuis yeah I meant 1793

[@matthewbearden2959]

how nice of KZbin to recommend that Smithsonian video right before this one

[@OddHunter5504]

Brandon F: memtions german tanks as “its a tank but a bit bigger” Me: sigh “you have no idea”

[@fellaknee8429]

bruh

[@anthonyhayes1267]

I was secretly hoping for some snide comment about broken drive sprockets or spare parts shortages

[@dernwine]

I dislike Brandon when hes not talking about the revolution. Hes a bit out of his depth and really can only offer very superficial commentary.

[@jacksonlarson6099]

Are you implying some Wehraboo nonsense or the opposite?

[@pablojn4826]

@@dernwine C A L L A C A G A D A (Apocaliptic music starts playing)