This Subconscious Belief Is So Damaging to Opioid Recovery

[@ericawalton1236]

Best Doc I've heard speak on these topics! Im sharing to all in my circle. Great job man.

[@marcirathbone8998]

Amen 🙏

[@jeremyfrancois9101]

I’m so glad you made this video. I was at a N/A meeting in Flint Michigan. This younger guy came and just started taking Suboxone and had a positive attitude. During the meeting these people starting saying your not sober your taking Suboxone. The kid left and I found out he died a couple weeks later. A friend of his said he gave up the suboxone because of what the group said. I never went back to another N/A meeting after that. He died because of N/A and this belief that total abstaining from anything is the only way you can say you’re sober.

[@tomnps1671]

This has happened in the NA groups I used to attend. It is great that some can just up and stop and never use again. Sometimes I wonder if those people were ever addicted in the first place but my opinion and $8.00 will get you a coffee at strabucks.

[@JackMcG_MD]

That is tragic to hear! These thoughts can real world consequences and that's a big reason why I made this video.

[@ArthurCallahan389]

I went to NA before I started methadone maintenance and they said the same things. If I’m honest, deep down I don’t feel clean & I know it’s because of things said at NA and by my parents.

[@KaraLey98]

That’s horrible and very sad!!

[@markthomas4083]

Jeromy, I feel for you and your poor friend. I too have had more than a few tell me the same. Suboptimal has helped me, I am very grateful for the Suboxone.

[@archieg8009]

This is why I avoid NA meetings. This meme runs rampant in those circles.

[@JackMcG_MD]

Yes, that attitude is my biggest gripe with NA. They claim to now accept people taking Suboxone and methadone as "sober" but since the organization is decentralized, that hasn't been adopted by every local group.

[@discdoggie]

That and religion/“higher power.” And forced hugging/holding hands and praying at the end. I went to NA my first day out of detox. Then watched a dude pick his nose for 90 minutes then was expected to hold his hand and pray at the meeting’s end. No thank you

[@B_Bodziak]

​@@JackMcG_MD I find it best to not even bring subs up in meetings. It's those who got sober 5 or more years ago that have this attitude because most rehabs now offer mat, moud. I knew that as soon as Hazelden recognized it as an effective tool, others would follow suit. In fact, in a few of my Hazelden newsletters, they even acknowledge the markedly higher success rate over 1 yr and 5yr of their former patients.

[@depaor50]

Brilliant and great videos...i am 71 and addicted all my life..Alcohol at 22 in an Alcoholic way...then Valium and then Tylex..not street drugs but worse i think..the Alcohol nearly killed me i only stopped because my body gave out luckily...the Benzos i take still but very little now..im still on codeine...iv always had an ddictive mind..iv been in and out of Rehabs most of my life..quit drinking 13 years ago but not a sober mind still...i watch these videos to give me motivation...🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪☘️☘️🙏 ..

[@JackMcG_MD]

Thank you for sharing your story! I'm glad you get something out of the videos, viewers like you keep me motivated to create more.

[@BLUEGENE13]

videos are just getting better jack! keep it up, love your stuff

[@JackMcG_MD]

Thank you!

[@Tom_Emody]

eeeeh….wasssup Doc? 🥕🥕🥕🥕 I have a personal question if you feel up to it. Why did you choose this field of work? Or did it choose you? Of course I don’t expect an answer.. That being said…I really appreciate your honesty and care that you share. I am grateful for it. ….Tom

[@adamhutchins2827]

Thank you for your videos I just watch few of them I really wish you took insurance you seem like the best substance abuse dr out there i live in Inverness Florida there not much help here for anyone most doctors here don’t even know what suboxone is half the time gonna give a call this morning thank you again for your support putting your videos on KZbin

[@marcirathbone8998]

Dr. McGeachy on your videos I hope soon that you will add the Thanks link or whatever it's called so that I and we your subscribers can give you Super Thanks $ to help you out more money wise for your channel as an appreciation for these helpful videos! I hope you see this 😊💯🙏🌹

[@JackMcG_MD]

Thanks for your support! Thus far, making videos is a passion, not a job. I want to provide a source of reputable information to counteract all the noise. I achieved KZbin Partner status a few days before the end of 2023 and I am very grateful for all the support of my audience. I have some ideas for how to develop the channel, so look forward to 2024!

[@tim57243]

You should make this case by talking about how Suboxone enables a lifestyle improvement, if you are wanting to encourage people to make a change like that. Something like what life events happen to the typical fentanyl addict has and what happens to the typical Suboxone user. Trying to control the definition of sobriety (to include Suboxone use) and using a substance (to exclude using Suboxone) is just participating in word games that you are assuming your target audience is losing. Better to tell people to stop playing the word games by ceasing to use the vague words and stick to well defined ones, such as typical specific life events of fentanyl and Suboxone users. (You are the addiction doc and I am not, so I will leave you to describe those typical life events.)

[@GaseousClay1]

thanks for penetrating the coconut of ignorance on this topic

[@JackMcG_MD]

Good one! Thank you.

[@chrisnguyen1720]

Can you please help me detox I’ve lost 12 years of my life.. I’ll pay whatever I can if I have to get a loan I will.. just traditional methods have never worked for me I’ve even tried going on a long cruise to lock myself away I was just dying on the water… please reach out to me if you think you can help me

[@icepick859]

Are you addicted to fentanyl or heroin/other opiates

[@Sarabande17]

Tianeptine?

[@factsofmatter6513]

Tianeptine sodium is one of the absolute worst opioids to come off of. And it’s not even an opioid

[@jeorgeramirezgonzolezsanti3178]

Recovery is personal. I may believe being on subs is not being "clean" but why should what i think matter to you. It's your recovery. Though why woukd you need to be on subs for 7 years?

[@WwebbMandy]

Maybe it maintains the cravings, not injecting something in side of them gives that person the will to get a job, be a husband, a wife ect. With out possible of death. They are addicted to taking something and this may give them that help they needed. With out hurting the people they love even more themselves.