This Trail Was Better As A Descent

[@yorkneytrailrider1751]

I watched this video with interest not just because out of all the mountain bikers on KZbin you are up there with my favourites but I’ve heard that this route can be an absolute bar steward which ever way it’s ridden but I can so relate to this with some of the routes in the Peak District, it’s been quite a while since I last got out due to illness both mentally and physically, and this video has been an inspiration for me to get well and get back out there so for that I very much thank you 👍

[@McTrailRider]

Really appreciate your kind comment mate 😊 This trail is hard going either direction regardless of bike, and it’s hard to recommend. It is very rewarding though if you do it successfully. Hope you feel better soon mate. I struggle mentally, especially at this time of year. Biking really helps me get through it though😊

[@jimbobjamber9276]

Sorry to hear that you have been unwell. Listening to Andrew's commentary about going for a dip reminded me of a Dutch gentleman called Wim Hoff. I think Mr Hoff may have taken a dip in the pool had he been there. Mr Hoff does some breathing techniques which I find help me, particularly after a stressful time. Perhaps they might help you? They are on YT for all to use. Good luck and best wishes. Jimbob J

[@yorkneytrailrider1751]

@@McTrailRider your more than welcome mate, I know I don’t always comment on your videos but I watch every one that you make, I don’t comment because I watch them on my tv, please keep up the great work mate 👊

[@streetpigeonmtb]

I really like that you kept that edit honest. Up until this video I thought I was the only person who has gone mental at the trail. I've shouted at the weather before as well 😆

[@McTrailRider]

Gotta keep it real Jamie 👍 The trail was mocking me to be fair 😂

[@streetpigeonmtb]

@@McTrailRider 😆 They do that sometimes!

[@TheSamwhyte]

Swearing. Frustration. Admissions of tribulations. So relatable! A true vlog of the people!

[@rogereheadbyrne4790]

Brilliant Video Andrew I'm now Subscribed Hold your head up high friend you are an amazing guy!! I watch bike riding all over the world and watching you makes me proud to be British!!Don't stop doing what you do!!

[@McTrailRider]

Great to have you on board Roger, and thank you for your very kind words 😊

[@kyled121]

Thanks Andy. Entertaining as ever. Pity about the tyre. What a joy being in Scotland!

[@McTrailRider]

Cheers Kyle, Scotland is pretty great right enough 👍

[@jonathanwells10]

that was........ambitious :) Well done for slogging through it and boy are you lucky to have that scenery on your rides

[@McTrailRider]

Too ambitious as it turned out. I do travel for these rides, but yeah, super lucky to have places like this nearby 👍

[@LMRomao]

i agree, but with an e-Bike it makes fun to make climbs that we don't do any other way.

[@ninolenherr6516]

The vid was very entertaining Andrew, looking beautiful up there, nice one!

[@McTrailRider]

Cheers Nino

[@SoGoMTB]

Nice cool weather! Be safe.

[@McTrailRider]

Thanks buddy

[@johnwilliamson9453]

Who says you don’t get a workout with an Ebike! You’re a beast of a rider...good job! I would be running inserts for your type of terrain. The Rimpacts work quite nicely!

[@McTrailRider]

Sometimes more of a workout 👍 inserts may be the way for the ebike.

[@FrankWalsh]

That moment when you know you've chosen poorly, but your committed to seeing it through 🙂

[@marksmith-yn9mm]

Great video 👍 Both me and my friend got side wall punctures on Maxxis tyers next to the rim on rocky descents with Ebikes on the same weekend! They are not up to the job. Changed to Eddy current, problem solved. Keep up the good work.

[@McTrailRider]

Can’t argue with you mate, fully agree.

[@kevincross9206]

Stayed at Kinlochleven overnight before doing the 3 Peaks at few years back, blew me away with how stunning it was. Didn’t realise it would as much a bike destroyer as this though!!

[@McTrailRider]

It’s a stunning place right enough 😍 There is no easy trails for the bike though 😬

[@Thepoeticmtbr_The_poetic_mtbr]

😱 Mr McT looked tough going up, Its how I look coming down some trails 😄 not good to see the frustration and anger but we've all been there 👍 thanks for keeping it in, makes us feel better about ourselves 😉

[@McTrailRider]

We’ve all been there indeed, and I wouldn’t want anyone thinking I’m different 👍

[@sja9836]

Love the video Andrew, yet another great mission. Don't be too harsh on the Maxxis rubber mate. That snake bite is in a bloody awkward spot that you did well to seal at all the first time given its position. To ride on it without the strip being trimmed back was taking a big liberty with it really so I'm not too surprised it was pulled outing nor should you really bud.

[@McTrailRider]

What your saying is completely true, but over the years Maxxis tyres have given me by far the most punctures, which is why I don’t buy them any more.

[@gogsyboy1]

Hey man, I feel your pain. I live in Kll, so have to put up with the gnarr year round. Next time you're here on the ebike, give me a shout. Just did the devil's staircase loop A/C yesterday and was using some choice words in frustration with my lack of "Chris Akrigg" moves on the climb too🤣🤣

[@McTrailRider]

It’s a tough place to ride for sure, but I’m sure your skills will be improving more than most with it being your local 👍

[@A_AAA232]

great video Andrew, a bit more than semi entertaining! well done for keeping it real getting up to the waterfall and descent, mate you smashed it riding down, big skills - looks like you've got a dodgy OEM tyre as others have commented, for the abuse you give your rigs maybe stick an insert in the rear too - top video and ride mate, cheers

[@McTrailRider]

Cheers dude 👍 Perhaps I would give some non oem tyres a go 🤔

[@scotlandmyhome7484]

Well done 👍 challenging day by the look of it! I need to get my ass over there and try some of them, good choice going with Schwalbe 👍

[@McTrailRider]

You do mate 👍 I actually ended up getting a Michelin e Wild instead.

[@taffycymroukmtb9073]

Great Stuff buddy 😉 🚴🏿‍♂️👌

[@McTrailRider]

Cheers Taffy 👍

[@grajones3118]

Superb decent, and climb to be fair !

[@McTrailRider]

Thanks buddy 😊

[@In_dependent]

Get the big betty for the rear, has better braking traction compared to currents! Love the video, that's what biking is for me, just fucking off somewhere and enjoying the day

[@McTrailRider]

Good to know 👍 Yeah, this is definitely my kind of mountain biking too.

[@rotarytroy]

Hard ride up for sure. Lowering the seat a bit helps when climbing up that rough stuff and when its steep on an ebike. You have the assist so you dont have to be as efficient. Lowers you center of gravity and let's the bike move around under you as needed.

[@McTrailRider]

You are correct about lowering the seat, that’s what I do anyway 👍 Didn’t help me much on this ride though 😜

[@gibbykirwan7788]

Eddie currents are great but I've recently switched to Magic Mary front & Big Betty rear. Same awesome performance but minus a bit of the chunk.

[@McTrailRider]

Good info Gibby 👍

[@jonboy1066]

I know you’ve said before that you don’t use tyre inserts because you don’t think you need them I think this vid is proof that you do 😂 Great video as always 👍🏽

[@dazbbgful]

I've got the eddy on at the moment andrew. No issues so far in Derbyshire and Yorkshire dales with punctures. Great video. And they see ebike is cheating 😁

[@McTrailRider]

Ran an Eddy Current no issues for a year on the Pivot, great tyre indeed 👍

[@Mugtree]

Loved this 👍. Looks amazing and brutal. I’ll be doing this in April. You’ve made my scared about my rear tyre. I have a Magic Mary up front but a Maxxis Rekon at the rear. My change it for my Nobby Nic 🤔👍.

[@McTrailRider]

It’s definitely a trail for punctures. I would recommend a heavier ride tyre if possible.

[@Mugtree]

@@McTrailRider thank you very much for the advice. Will do 👍

[@ceriway380]

Good content again a bit do or die challenge for a climb on a new bike ,don't take it the wrong way but good to see the fails just because your on a Ebike it's still hard 👍 I wish you used the drone just show how steep the climb was , good going mate.ps I'm not surprised the tyre were knackered.

[@McTrailRider]

I always leave the struggles in, make it more real and honest 👍 The drone would have only really been useable for about 10% off this trail due to the trees, otherwise I would have used it.

[@andrewcrookes5775]

For what it's worth I have been running Tannus armour and tubes been brilliant on the Ebike

[@McTrailRider]

I used to run that setup and quite liked the results, but I found the foam became hard over time and the tyre then lost the good feeling that I’m it had when I first fitting the Tannus.

[@DizRidesMtb]

Dwn was awesome up was a nightmare I feel ya pain dude 👍. Oh u silly boy. Hope u get sorted dude x

[@McTrailRider]

You summed it up nicely 😜

[@DizRidesMtb]

@@McTrailRider took some thought tho tbh 😂 😂 😂

[@DrFaroon]

Ambitious.

[@McTrailRider]

Too much so 😜

[@philipbrocklehurst3745]

Hmmm, my new bike came with Maxxis tyres (and not DH ones). Don't ride anywhere near as hard as you do but tempted by a replacement or tyre inserts as a preventative measure.

[@McTrailRider]

You might be ok, this trail is just asking for punctures and the bike is nearly 26kgs. Not a good combo.

[@Calvin_Wright]

Eddie Currents are as tough as tractor tyre’s. I’ve been running a liner in the emtb rear and had no issues with rim dinks. Even though the rocky sections. Loving your vids 😎🤙

[@McTrailRider]

Eddie Current are ridiculously strong 💪💪

[@leewalsh3945]

What E-bike are you using mate ?

[@McTrailRider]

It’s a Vitus E Sommet VRS

[@ashleyscarth8363]

a little tip lower your saddle when climb on ebike put more grip on back tire enjoy the view 👍

[@McTrailRider]

That’s the technique that I was using……but maybe not too good effect 😜

[@BikingVikingMTB]

Yes I agree with Jonathan…… I hate climbing and some times I loose my rag but once your up there its great! I have to travel a long long way to get that scenery or I travel to the peak District! Tyres-Ive ran maxxis for three years and had nothing but issues with them until I discovered Michelin Enduro front n rear wow they are amazing. Ran them for a year now with literally now issues but Im now wondering if I should try the DH 32F 34R?? Im no DH racer I ride an Enduro bike but I think the casing and greater stiffness would be an advantage to me, not sure on rolling resistance.Great video as usual Andy

[@McTrailRider]

I’ve been loving my Michelin’s, they’ve been really good to me. Apparently the new ones are stronger too 👍

[@RichardOrr1977]

a burst the side wall and a bought rubber tyre patches with tyre glue and and a set it alight for a sec or two … tyre still going … strong .. mind u am cycling on less rough terrain thou …

[@McTrailRider]

I definitely need to invest in some proper tyre patches for the future 👍

[@gibbykirwan7788]

Cannae aw be winners...... But 10/10 for sticking wi it

[@McTrailRider]

Everybody loves a trier 😂

[@brianbathgate4944]

Amazing man. That bike and your skills were making that look easy. I’d be OTB, ko’d and getting gnawed on by fuckin squirrels after 2 foot :-)

[@peterbeer4746]

That looked like a hard ride up even on an ebike , but always good to get to the top with those views and knowing you’ve got the downhill to come …. How you getting on with the new ebike….. I’ve just recently brought a pair off maxis dhr and dhr both dd and cushcore but yet to try them

[@McTrailRider]

I’ve been really enjoying the bike, it’s so capable on the bumpy stuff and hides its weight well too 👍

[@mattsankey4544]

How do you have the suspension set up with or without tokens etc?

[@davewalsh8278]

Those OEM Maxxis tyres are way below the standard of their off-the-shelf tyres. I had a pair of Assegai's maxxterra that came on my new bike and they were borderline unrideable in the wet. No grip whatsoever, I suspect they use a cheaper compound in the OEM tyres.

[@McTrailRider]

I reckon your right mate 👍

[@cb6866]

Thanks Andrew...Is the Ebike harder physically ? I mean , are you more tired after riding it ? I am curious , the places you ride amaze me regardless , I know it all takes a toll . Sorry about the flat... Peace..AND ever hear of GUUP ?

[@McTrailRider]

It really depends on how you use it. For rides like this, absolutely! On a regular bike I just plod away on the climbs nice and steady so that I can enjoy the descent. On the ebike though, I choose tougher climbs and end up attacking them more and I try to do things that you wouldn’t normally manage. My average heart rate is almost always higher in the ebike.

[@cb6866]

@@McTrailRider I can see why , in incredible cinematic fashion ! Thanks again Cheers

[@stevenparker4378]

are you running an insert on the rear andrew? Im 14.5 stone and run Rimpact pro inserts front and rear on my analogue enduro after multiple pinch flats in chunk. Since then i've never had a single one in any tyre i've run with even at 16 psi !

[@McTrailRider]

I don’t run any these days, but it’s good to hear your positive results 😜

[@tcimen1]

Hi there, did you stop posting the gpx maps in Trailforks?

[@McTrailRider]

I have stopped that ATM, I should try and see if I can make my watch upload to Trailforks 🤔

[@grahamalexanderdavidson6806]

Can you tell me what bottle and cage you are running ?.. I can't get one to fit my e-sommet ?

[@McTrailRider]

This is what I’m running, and I don’t see me ever going back www.fidlock-bike.com/en/produkt/bottle-590/ You will also need an adapter to like this one if you fit this bigger bottle. www.sigmasports.com/item/Wolf-Tooth-Components/B-RAD-Mounting-Base-2-Slot/HVBN?co=GBR&cu=GBP&glCountry=GB&id=833747&ds_eid=700000001845766&ds_e=GOOGLE&ds_c=UK_EN_Profit_Google_Shopping_All+Users_Smart_7&ds_cid=71700000089149679&ds_ag=700%25+ROAS&ds_agid=58700007557256964&ds_k=PRODUCT_GROUP&ds_kid=92700069895283833&ds_kids=p69895283833&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5-WRBhCKARIsAAId9Fn8qo1RamTZLcPC0uwVQ_x0Zy5R8ZWsZKDPqXX0p8Cfbv07CoyRqW0aAoY6EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[@grahamalexanderdavidson6806]

Cheers dude 👍🏼

[@johnster187]

Maybe try this trail on an hardtail next time, add a little more spice to it hey! 😉 On a serious note, it looks more like a hike a bike trail in parts.......fair play to you ✌👏

[@McTrailRider]

😂😂 might as well 😜

[@trevoredensor7114]

Hi Andrew is there a reason that you dont ride with tyre inserts...even if only in the rear wheel ??

[@McTrailRider]

Used to run them a couple of years ago but then tyres got better and I no longer felt the need for them. I’m feeling the need now though 😬

[@trevoredensor7114]

@@McTrailRider I'm sure that you are on the rocky terrain that you ride....nothing lost by having them especially on the ebike....wouldn't be without them on mine ..priceless !!! A bit like your videos ...amazing filming especially with the drone and stunning landscapes ...a bold attempt to get up this trail...but definitely meant to be ridden down for max satisfaction and fun...keep up the great work ..thanks 👍

[@roik.6694]

you should put the Maxxis with DH casing not the DD.

[@McTrailRider]

If I chose the true in the first place, I may have went dh casing. I’ve opted for a Michelin e Wild instead on this occasion.

[@Cous1nJack]

There’s a gmbn video in the last week or so discussing oem tyres v off the shelf

[@IVANMTB]

Hi, friend! good video and thanks for sharing 🙋 #ivan_mtb

[@McTrailRider]

Thank you Ivan 👍

[@bobbyboyd72]

Do you ride with the saddle lower when it gets steeper?

[@McTrailRider]

I do, it definitely helps 👍

[@scrakymtb3495]

Well Mc Trail i am now an owner of the e bike you are riding, in my last comment i did say i had it in my basket and after your last video i had to Buy it... i even tried to sneak it into the garage but the box was massive so had to tell the wife👍 Cracking video mate well done on the climb up it looked ruff and pretty much brutal going.. I did wonder how long the rear tyre would last on that epic descent 😂it was good full on comitted you were... any tips on the bike you could give me ? i need to come up there soon.. keep up the videos i always look forward to watching them

[@McTrailRider]

That’s awesome mate! I’ll be sure to tell Vitus😜 I honestly don’t really have any tips on the bike tbh, other than the punctures I’ve not had any issues. I thought I’d want to upgrade the suspension intervals and swap out the brakes, but as it stands I’m very content👍

[@scrakymtb3495]

@@McTrailRider 👍

[@scrakymtb3495]

@@McTrailRider had a wee ride today very impressed with the bike motor is pretty silent.. I tho the motor was going to fall out when I got onto ruff ground.its like bad chain slap... have u experienced this yet ? I read its a comment problem with the SP8 motor

[@McTrailRider]

The rattle sound is the motor (EP8) For some reason the Shimano and Bosch motors now make a noise on the descents 🤷🏼‍♂️ They do vary from bike to bike, I was lucky to get a relatively quiet one.

[@tobyehillier]

Are those white logo Maxxis? They're OEM if so and probably not up to usual Maxxis standard. Saying that, I don't like Maxxis so I've stuck with Mary coz she's magic

[@McTrailRider]

They are oem, and you raise a good point 👍 I too though, would choose a non Maxxis option.

[@bennysh]

There's a rumor that when you go into a bike shop, all the tiers disappear and can be found hiding in the corner, terrified.. ambitious riding nonetheless!

[@McTrailRider]

😂😂 is true!

[@wee0grant]

Belter as usual 👌

[@McTrailRider]

Thanks buddy

[@jayblackll]

Cut your bacon strips flush and they won't pop out.

[@McTrailRider]

I should have cut them.

[@LMRomao]

Not a good start 😉

[@McTrailRider]

Nope

[@LMRomao]

@@McTrailRider ok.

[@Calvin_Wright]

Eddie Currents are as tough as tractor tyre’s. I’ve been running a liner in the emtb rear and had no issues with rim dinks. Even though the rocky sections. Loving your vids 😎🤙

[@roywood642]

Agree. my pal had his first flat in over 2 years the other day with the Eddie Curent (rim dink). He elected to run back to the van flat on the cush core rather than change to a tube (over 3 miles on rocks). He wasn't much slower overall. The tyre was none the worse!