Haviks buff was pretty meh but since i main him i think this was what they were going for: - Stand 4 buff is for frame traps. i think it used to be plus 1 or 2 but after your opponent blocks stand 4 you can now backdash sweep or back 2 or trade for a punish, kameo conversion, or to reset neutral. Kinda like his Stand 21 (even though it’s better lol) - Stand 3 buff is really only helpful with corner combos. After launching with heart in the corner, stand 3 into another heart is optimal but it can be a tricky link. A faster stand 3 just makes this easier i believe, no other reason. - F13 is easily his best buff. it used to be somewhere from -15 to -21 on block (but with pushback) so it was pretty useless and only used for a mixup with his F122. You could combo after F13 with a kameo pre-patch but it was another tricky link and almost not worth it. Now, F13 is much easier to convert into kameo and is only -6 on block i believe.
@Tragicx774 ай бұрын
Sonya getting an overhead grab made my eyebrows hit the ceiling with excitement. That was a fucking fantastic buff.
@grizzmoses74724 ай бұрын
Probably makes her a top 5 kameo. All 3 of her moves are viable. Can't think of another base roster kameo that has 3 viable moves. Maybe Scorpion but his overhead is trash compared to Sonyas now and his "get over here" move is very situational.
@clay89473 ай бұрын
@@grizzmoses7472 scorpions overhead is a safe overhead launcher. It's incredibly useful
@grizzmoses74723 ай бұрын
@@clay8947 yes I know that. I main him with Kitana lol. I’m just saying, Sonya’s is way faster now and it’s plus on block.
@unr34L-3 ай бұрын
Going back to the classic Quan an Sonya combo ASAP, as much as I love Quan/Janet, Sonya was so fun, and now that she has mixup potential, oooooooh man.
@innocenceUnknown4 ай бұрын
The Nitara change was very useful I was running some matches with her tonight adn using STryker and the ability to cancel 124 has helped her a lot
@mrplow84 ай бұрын
I don’t know if the Nitara change makes her better, but it definitely makes her easier to play. It’s one of those strings where you have a billion years to hit confirm. So if you’re not good at hit conforming, I think it’ll help you out a lot. It might also make her better with certain Kameos, but I’ll wait for smarter people to figure that out and steal their combos.
@hatsunemikubutgoth21623 ай бұрын
looks like u got a nice upgrade that haircut looks fresh 😎
@discorabbit4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. Now, what rock/metal band member from the 2000s am i thinking you look like hmmm 🤔. Can’t think of it.
@grizzmoses74724 ай бұрын
Kitana's standing 1,1 string doesn't go into her launcher... So you have to do 1,1, enhanced square wave into her launcher it you don't have the right kameo. That's really the main instance that you would use this move where substantial scaling happens. I mean it can be used to other things obviously but I think this was the main purpose of the buff.
@DadsOP4 ай бұрын
That kitana move has been used against my rain when I zone them too much, they side switch (usually get punished for it) or catch me in the air tryna raingodball
@UnkyJosh4204 ай бұрын
Maybe Havoks new moves help him in combos maybe?
@Kratosx233 ай бұрын
Sonya's grab now being a safe overhead was a blessing to me as an Omni-Main, as well as an Ashrah secondary. With Omni-Man, he now has what he's been lacking the entire time, an overhead combo starter, and it's safe so I don't even have to hit confirm anymore. I can finally open people up, and for Ashrah, her 22 into leg grab is now high low overhead in one combo. How do you block that? I don't even know. Can you? You've got to be able to but who can react to that? The person I tried it online on certainly couldn't. And it's a fast recharge too, it's really quick.
@ianj53274 ай бұрын
It's time for the Li Mei father
@BlindsightBlue4 ай бұрын
I’m by no means the most optimal Kitana player, but Square Wave is great for Mavado ambushes. It also gives her a good combo starter off of 11, since only her S1 cancels into Fan Lift in the midscreen. This way you can do 11 into Square Wave into an ambush and it won’t scale as bad.
@aaronbobb98703 ай бұрын
21 for sub used to scale heavily on the ground, treating that freeze as a klone/ice ball scaling. Now he gets better damage from his best punisher
@magikpuppy3 ай бұрын
Kitana can combo from her 112 now without having to use specific kameos. 112 doesn’t combo into fan lift so now she’ll have a fast combo punish off 112 into EX square wave which can be cancelled into other specials : ie fan lift 🤓🤓 Should open up more punishes
@MKF304 ай бұрын
Ive been using sonya for a while now with Shang and Ermac, this is so cool she got a buff. Also cool haircut 👍🏼
@migraine77183 ай бұрын
Havik’s standing 3 is a good poke/ whiff punish tool. Additionally, you can use it to poke low blocking opponents to place yourself in prime positioning. But the thing is, chaos kick should be his mid. The fact that it’s a high makes it useless because haviks issue is that he gets low-poked all the time. His mid is 18 frames on start up. Havik is missing a lot of ways of opening up his opponent and real combo potential. Even with movado his actual combos are very straight forward. He has a good corner set up but he doesn’t have a good mid to make him a threat at close close range.
@migraine77183 ай бұрын
All that yapping aside, this doesn’t do a lot for his neutral or close close range. So- I appreciate the scraps, but where is our glow up? Look at reptile at the beginning of the game and look now, nitara got smt, Havik needs; a fast close range mid Make is DB4 his other armoured move(if his gimmick is that he’s the slow hard hitting tank who can take a punch. Have him embrace it. Because looking at the rest of the cast he needs it.), I think he should have a B3 that looks like his F4 but with a slight difference in animation where he lifts his knee up higher to do a sort of stomp that leads to a ground bounce sort of like kung Lao or general shao. I’d like to see something that allows him to embrace this chaotic immortal zombie.
@joylessgaming4 ай бұрын
I suppose I could see Sonya fitting into what Scorpion was already offering, safe overhead launch, juggle extensions, just with a projectile instead of the armoured evade. The launch is still a little weird to combo with some characters though. Nitara change can't be about punishes, because she already has a 7 frame punish with 1212, I think it's probably more a safe hit-confirm option. Stryker, dunno, I guess at full screen the kuffed move can be a bit more useful but if you wanted plus frames up close the overhead baton was already +6. I'm pretty sure Sub mains would like the f1 sped up more than the other changes, but maybe I'm clueless since I'm not a Sub main. Absolutely give Li Mei another try, even if it's just to see if she can zone now, maybe with Sonya? Rings to cover getting the lantern on screen.
@clay89473 ай бұрын
With strikers specifically, you can do kuffed in more combos for a reset. Before if you did it in combos while your opponent was airborne it normally whiff. Now character like reptile and Baraka with launchers that launch you high enough, you can combo in to kuffed for a restand
@Shangjinko4 ай бұрын
It’s a thin line between love and hate, in this case a patch 😂, looking forward to seeing what LiMei can do now
@tomservo13673 ай бұрын
Nice haircut, Dink. Thanks for the video!
@shujinkydink3 ай бұрын
Thanks for noticing!
@codeegirl3 ай бұрын
Looking fresh Dink!!
@TracyCookie4 ай бұрын
ITS TIME. PLAY LI MEI.
@yeahboyz93144 ай бұрын
They better revert the 2 hit forcefield nerf if it gonna take this long to get going
@GLOCKCHESTER1314 ай бұрын
Now people care bout li mei like nah leave my character alone 😂 I was the 1 person who played her at combo breaker so yea dnt @ Me talking crazy
@Nonlifting_breezy4 ай бұрын
Because stand 3 and 4s have been next to useless in the past 3 games.
@thegreenarrow82864 ай бұрын
Subzero got crap still
@damionbaxter49124 ай бұрын
The sub-zero change aren't enough. The correct changes would be to remove the armor gap on 123 and leave it -12 on the block. It didn't need to be safe call a kameo for that. As for 21 same thing fix the scaling sure but either remove the gap so he can jail without getting armored or attacked through his gaps or move the 212 gap to the 12 portion of the string so it's risky for the overhead be isn't forcing a mind game on himself when trying to jail
@billyford48364 ай бұрын
F123 isn’t what he needed but welcomed. I always wondered why it was so negative and they’re not many reasons to ever use the full string now it is. Hopefully after Evo we can a major change for all characters
@damionbaxter49124 ай бұрын
@billyford4836 it's welcome, but if their goal was to get it used more, they chose poorly. Removing the gap would have been better. That way, on block, you could call a kameo to keep it safe like goro/Stryker or on hit use scorpion/Sonya to combo. And with the new Sonya leg grab changes, he would have a somewhat real mix to a level he might actually pick her over khameleon.
@billyford48364 ай бұрын
@@damionbaxter4912 ahh I see what ur getting at opens up more unique play. But it having a gap can allow u to bait players if they are too antsy
@yaskingslay4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Another useless patch.
@patmcluvn58594 ай бұрын
Johnny, peacemaker, Kham.. Will still be meta. The patch sucked
@astashasta14 ай бұрын
peacemaker wont
@uratheboi15554 ай бұрын
You will not be seeing Peacemaker in tournaments often if at all anymore lol. He now requires effort to win with so most competitive players are gonna drop him even if hes still strong
@intellectic91554 ай бұрын
No. No it wasn't. MK1 is still a rolling dumpster fire of a game. NRS could be one of the steepest downfalls I've seen in a long time. Just terrible. Keep on shilling though. Wouldn't want to lose that access. I get it.
@youngcansuela83274 ай бұрын
Pathetic comment. As if he’d say he liked it just to get the bare minimum “access’. What if…he actually likes the game? Impossible, right?
@innocenceUnknown4 ай бұрын
Grow up
@rkrleg84 ай бұрын
You tell em also delete yourself show how much you dont agree with this. Delete your profile and never get on youtube again.
@GLOCKCHESTER1314 ай бұрын
Bruh y’all kill me with this “shill” shit like if yu dnt like the game that’s fine but let us shill in peace 😂