This was by far the Imperial Navy's best idea...

[@GenerationTech]

Download Raid ➡ t2m.io/GenerationTech_Raid to get 2 Limited-edition Legendary champions + 2 strong Epics ✅ 1 - Epic Uugo⚡ available only via my link and for new players ✅ 2 - Epic Fayne⚡ available only via my link and for new players ✅ 3 - Legendary Loki⚡ available after 7 days of logging into Raid by October 23 ✅ 4 - Legendary Sun Wukong via promo code MONKEYKING ⚡ available for new players by October 31 📱 Link to enter Raid Shadow Legends codes ➡ plarium.com/en/redeem/raid-shadow-legends/

[@billyholland5156]

i have to wonder if the empire was obsessed with beating planetary shields. the cheapest planetary shield can hold off fleets for weeks at least and can be bought as cheap as a 100,000 credits...with planetary defense ion canons similarly priced. A planet in theory could have a planetary shield and hundreds of planetary defense weapons for the cost of one SD. Against that you want to maximize the sustained firepower of your entire battlefleet to batter down those shields more quickly. Yes, torpedoes sphere ships can punch a small hole for a brief moment, but what if the planetary shield is protected by a theatre shield and can be sniped in that manner? what then? the pursuit of sheer sustained firepower would make a lot of sense if the Empire was mostly thinking about such planetary siege scenarios. a navy could bankrupt itself trying to beat down such planetary defenses with munitions if they ever became widespread enough.

[@bojik2616]

Nope no aids shadow legends

[@ukeyaoitrash2618]

raid cancer legends

[@Swiff-460]

Have you ever made a recent droid starfighter video?

[@NareshSinghOctagon]

12:06 ,and no,oddly enough,they still had their chin mount weapons. Probably not the exact same,but they were still there. Unless this is more Disney canon heresy.

[@Pouk3D]

"Your generic TIE grunt is just plain suicidal. And the TIE Defender jockey is bloodthirsty. But the TIE Interceptor pilot, he's suicidal and bloodthirsty."

[@christianburnett236]

Blood thirsty and xenophobic probably get more pleasure destroying alien ships...not surprising

[@biggsdarklighter0473]

There was a reson the Legends of 151st Fighter squadron flew Interceptors even when Defenders became easier available.

[@xaleypoo4779]

Kyle "Just a guy with a lightsaber" Katarn

[@Dablo_Escobar]

"when you see a squadron of them coming towards you, you better hope your hyper is working" . I think that was the rest of the quote by Kyle katarn

[@thijsjong]

The middle ground between a cheap mass produced fighter that is very basic and a superadvanced elite fighter model that has the best in everything. That is the TIE interceptor. It is the basic tie fighter with double the firepower, a shield installed plus a hyperdrive. It is a step up from the basic tie fighter without making it excessively expensive. A balance between quantity and quality

[@Carstuff111]

I think the TIE Interceptor was the best thing to hit Star Wars in a long while. It makes total sense as an upgrade path to the original TIE Fighter. Better weapons, better speed, better maneuverability, but keep it simple. This is one of those things in the lore that makes me go "Yeah, that makes sense, the Empire should do that more... Aaaand its too late."

[@samadams2203]

It looks absolutely amazing too. The generic TiE is of course iconic, but the interceptor really nails that sleek, angular imperial vibe much better.

[@Angry_Squirrel555]

It was epic to see it for the first time in the theater! It left you thinking, wow that's a badass upgrade! It was also immediately obvious that it took cues from Vader's TIE which made it even more badass!

[@hissingfever8210]

And then we went to the first order and it's just fighters again

[@BlackMethos]

"Your generic TIE grunt is just plain suicidal. And the TIE Defender jockey is bloodthirsty. But the TIE Interceptor pilot, he's suicidal and bloodthirsty. When you see a squad of those maniacs flying your way, you'd better hope your hyperdrive is operational." - Kyle Katarn

[@miodziu6805]

I recall Has Solo also mentioning that all TIE figher pilots are Very, very skilled. Extremely good pilots. They however have very shory lifespan. Which shows that Empire mimics old sith empire doctrine - a cheap fighters that still are quite deadly but have no regard for life of those who are unlucky enough to die in first wave. Among those who distinguish themselves and survive - those are selected for better, bit more expensive and powerful machines. Which means those who managed to reach the best machines by surviving this unforgiving meatgrinder and flying those all-or-nothing deathtraps - are the same ones who absolutely deserve their place and name among the top of pilots in galaxy. In short an extremely dangerous pilots. However the truth is even those aces can be taken down, by larger force, finding and worthy opponent on other side, or simply greeting by overhelming fire from decicated anti-starfighter frigate/corvette/gunship (such as lancer-class that would ironically save many crucial targets if they were more common) and you might never find their replacement as pilots are already elite of your army anyway and always will be the hardest one to replace as your population is by nature - limited resource. This also explains why unless they were in all or nothing scenario - rebels avoided any prolonged fight.

[@enoughothis]

I always thought it was a huge contradiction that Imperial TIE pilots were so highly trained yet they were flying unshielded swarm fighters that would explode if given a dirty look. The Vulture fighters of the CIS were perfect for swarm tactics but using piloted ships in this role is wasteful. All those credits and time to train the best pilots in the galaxy only to explode in a fireball two seconds into an engagement.

[@welkingunther5417]

The Empire could've at least put some light shielding on the TIE Fighter, something like the V-Wing had where it's not great, but it would definitely at least keep them in the fight for longer. The Empire certainly had the budget and resources for it.

[@nick-hu1nx]

when human life is still low cost even with tons of hours of training and filtering for high quality candidates. we often forget how many people live in the core worlds of the empire i think. perhaps there was a lot of Sith ideology and psychology that made them more bloodthirsty when they were treated as elite and expendable that was more valuable to the empire than the value of retaining pilots to Palpatine.

[@garlixbread]

The X-Wings didnt last much longer than Tie Fighters, they relied on the fact that they were so manuverable and fast they couldnt even get hit once, they were meant for dogfighting, rebels dont have the resources to train such pilots so they adopt no tactics as such

[@thingamabob3902]

Lucas closely modeled the stardestroyers and T.I.E fighters on the japanese carriers and navy aviation of WW2 ... light, very agile, unarmored Zeros and highly trained pilots, though unable to take a hit ... and vice versa the relative bulky and robust rebel fighters on the Wildcat and their successors.

[@enoughothis]

@@thingamabob3902, people forget that as the war progressed Zeros were shot out of the sky with disgusting ease by Hellcats and Corsairs. The Battle of the Philippine Sea is nicknamed the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot for a reason.

[@Neptune0404]

Lets not forget that it was also only 15.000 credits more than the standard tie. Meaning it still cost half as much as an X-wing. That big of an upgrade while still being incredibly cheap is to me why the Tie Interceptor was so much more successful compared to more costly Tie variants like the Advanced or Defender.

[@jayburn00]

In star wars, proton torpedoes are very expensive and relatively uncommon. The empire at one point didn't even think the rebels had them. In legends, there is an entire comic dedicated to how the rebels got the torpedoes for their attack on the death star (Jan doddona is involved).

[@goldjaw]

Many Bothans died to get those Proton Torpedoes.

[@ItsAVolcano]

One of the more memorable uses of these was by Thrawn in Legends, making the Interceptor the standard fighter on his star destroyers and gifting his surplus TIE fighters to newly allied worlds. This would strengthen his new allies while ensuring any New Republic actions in those worlds would kill local pilots, with the added insurance that if they betrayed him they'd be fielding outdated fighters his own pilots were very familiar with.

[@kj07video]

Very cool & smart, where did you hear this?

[@ItsAVolcano]

@@kj07video it was in the original Thrawn trilogy, or maybe accompanying comics, wherein Rogue Squadron had to figure out how to work around the local TIE fighter squads since killing the local pilots would wreck their ops.

[@swissarmyknight4306]

The thing that's always bothered me about the "Unshielded, inexpensive TIE fighter/interceptor with highly trained disposable pilots" is that the most expensive and difficult to replace component of any aircraft/spacecraft is the pilot, especially experienced pilots.

[@nebiyuesayas5600]

That's the irony of the Empire. They're kind of like modern Russia in that they have the advantage of numbers, even if the quality of their equipment (and as the war drags on, their pilots) degrades they have enough mass that they can sustain huge numbers.

[@NareshSinghOctagon]

This right here is exactly why any debate that the TIE Fighter was a better purchase then a TIE Defender falls flat. Costs fives times the amount of a TIE Fighter,designed to replace four TIE Fighters,and less needed to be replaced,if not just repaired,without loosing their pilots in the process. Which also means the logistics of bringing new pilots to replace the dead ones is also greatly reduced.

[@Kellethorn]

​@@nebiyuesayas5600I literally came to say this exact thing lol.

[@randallsanchez3161]

The TIE was never disposable. The whole debate over shields is silly. Shields were a second chance if you made a mistake. That's it. The speed and maneuverability of the TIEs were the shields. If you can out turn an enemy fighter then you never have to worry about it shooting you. If you're always on its tail then you don't have to worry about shields. I think the "disposable" aspect came from one of the Legends books and it stuck ever since. I would take a TIE over an Xwing any day of the week.

[@RYUZAKILL117]

“You don’t need shields, if they can’t hit you in the first place” - A TIE Interceptor pilot, probably

[@zacharyharwell351]

They really are like that subset of Dark Souls fans now that I think about it "You don't need armor/health, just git gud"

[@gregorysaugustine5236]

The logic of zero fighter pilot too, probably. TIE fighter is like a combination of ww2 fighter philosophy between Zero and BF 109 with the thin amour of the Zero and the short range of BF 109.

[@tonyjackson4078]

I always thought the Empires preference for smaller fighters with no hyperdrives also discouraged deserters. If you simply plan to run, the short range fighter gives a 50/50 chance you'll end up drifting in space out of fuel.

[@bogatyr2473]

Speaking of cost, think about it in universe. The Republic had just spent a phenomenal amount of money building up for and fighting the Clone Wars, and immediately after that Palp comes back to the Senate wanting to completely replace EVERYTHING. The Imps had to build things cheap.

[@polishscribe674]

He is... The Senate.

[@rays.5764]

The high casualty rate of TIE pilots was Palpatine's method of killing as many people in the galaxy without needing to do any work himself and not being technically responsible.

[@AetherStryfe]

That's actually a really smart plan. Again, this is the man responsible for the deaths of 99% of Jedi.

[@biggsdarklighter0473]

​@@AetherStryfe that depends how Many Jedi will be inserted into the universe that survived Order 66

[@codyraugh6599]

I think a lot of people still miss the scale difference in the Empire and the Rebellion. not only did the Empire have to garrison more territory by orders of magnitude than the rebellion they also were planning for manpower where they could afford to lose 10 or more pilots for every rebel pilot. So any single change that's sat 100 credits scales to tens of trillions of credits to equip the fleet with, where the rebels could replace most their fighter force for millions to billions despite their vessels being dramatically more expensive. And that's why the rebellion though was walking a tightrope, on one hand they needed to scale up their war to eventually destroy the Empire, but they couldn't let the Empire close that gap in equipment and that meant they had to either outspend the Empire somehow or do more with less while minimizing losses to get that gradual snowball effect which demands even better quality from their troops and existing equipment than what they had on paper.

[@DavidRichardson153]

There's a lot to add, so I'll limit it to what I consider the biggest: patrols - or more accurately, the general lack of them from the Empire. Here on Earth, patrols are still the bread and butter of defense. Yes, advanced sensors help and are often game-changers. Yes, these sensors are likely to spot what the "Mark One Eyeball" cannot. However, sensors still face the same problem that they always have. They may have gotten better at detecting and are more robust for their operations, but they still fail, they still break down. That is why, even today, military installations (which includes the carrier, especially when it's out on the water) still regularly send out patrols for scouting and security. Not only does this compensate in many ways for the potential failing of tech, but by already having weapons out where the the potential attackers could be, it puts those weapons on target much faster should an attack occur. I've noticed that this usage of patrols, particularly smaller ones involving at least mostly foot soldiers or fighters, never really occur much with the Empire. Yes, we do see some patrols, but when you really stop and look at them, they kind of feel like they were only done for the sake of the narrative, something to help drive the plot of the story being told at that moment. In fairness, yes, patrols can be expensive (when only looking at a spreadsheet), at least regarding any and all equipment sent out, and more often than not, nothing happens during them, which can make them feel like a waste, more so should a sense of complacency or just general fatigue build within the troops involved. Even so, patrols typically end up being the most cost-effective method for preventing or even countering attacks from an enemy. Not to sound flippant or callous, but it makes sense to risk the lives of a "few lowly grunts" and their disposable equipment than to risk damage to or loss of their home base. The Imperial approach of just sitting back and letting sensors do all the work and only sending out a response when something was detected is really a dumb strategy, especially when the job is to secure a very wide swath of space rather than, for example, a very specific and highly used hyperspace corridor. If you want a real-life example of just how costly this approach can be, look up Lt. Col. Stanislav Petrov and think about what could have happened if he had trusted the sensors. There are other big factors that contributed to the Empire's eventual downfall. The general lack of usage of missiles is one of these, though I will argue that it is for mostly the same reasons as for the lack of patrols. So to bring it back to what Alan said, the TIE Interceptor was an effective stop-gap measure, but without increased patrols (quite possible on an order of magnitude), it couldn't solve the problem of the Imperial military doctrine.

[@thingamabob3902]

well in cinema the TIE usually violently explodes into thousand fragments, though would it really do so in sci-fi "reality" ... the fuel sits in the underside of the sphere and beside the machinery the other volume is more or less hollow, so I´d say if the pilot itself does not get hit he would have a wrecked and punctured hull, but hey he has a space suit, so no big deal. If there is no shuttle service to pick them up after the battle .... well, game over.

[@ninjalectualx]

Good comment but switching from an in-universe perspective to an out-of-universe one weakens your point. You can't just hand-wave away patrols by blaming the narrative, in-universe those patrols are real and happen for a reason.

[@DavidRichardson153]

@@ninjalectualx Still doesn't change the fact that they are rather rare, and that they are much rarer than they should be if actual security, even the bare minimum, is to be maintained. There may be an in-universe explanation for the lack of patrols - and some media, particularly that of Legends, does address this for certain stories - but without this being explored and thus left to out-of-universe speculation, an out-of-universe perspective is inevitable.

[@ninjalectualx]

No. If you don't know the in-universe explanation, just say that. Resorting to Dolyian arguments in a Watsonian conversation ruins the entire point of analyzing this stuff! It's not fun

[@DavidRichardson153]

@@ninjalectualx You know, if you want to make a point, at least have it be understandable.

[@theseekerofancienttruth3873]

In Legends, the Empire Introduced Lots of Counters to the Rebels, Especially the Lancer-class. The Rare Usage of these Counter-Units and Countermeasures was Imperial Narcissism.

[@scp2539]

Ignoring tech limitations. One thing I never really understood about the Death Star was that it had a massive amount of weapons, and even if they weren't anti-fighter weapons, they could have opened up with enough fire to wipe out several times what the rebels attacked with. It would have been the perfect opportunity to show just how strong the station was before its main weapon was in range. It had tens of thousands of weapons, easily over 100k, so they could have tried blocking out the sun with laser fire. They wouldn't even need to lock on, just fill the area with shots and something is going to hit purely by how many shots there are.

[@Virtual_Jester]

That was the idiocy of Tarkin. He was so certain that a bunch of small fighters would never be able to harm the Death Star in anyway, that he didn’t order activation of other weapons, he didn’t order deployment of TIE fighters, and he didn’t order the preparations for an emergency evacuation if need be. He believed that the Death Star could simply shrug off any attack without even needing to react.

[@Drowsyspace128]

couldve made good visuals that fit in the aesthetic language of star wars where it could show the x wings trying to dodge the thousands of shots like ww2 bombers trying to breach AAflak fire

[@davidtherwhanger6795]

Honestly once Darth Vader scrambled the Tie Fighters it should have been over. The Death Star should easily have been able to have entire wings of fighters chasing each individual Rebel fighter.

[@seanrea550]

The surface weapons of the deathstar may not have had the coverage needed for snub fighter defense. But the rebels only strike with 30 craft + the falcon sweeping in at the last second. They return with 6.

[@scp2539]

@@seanrea550 Sure, when they got close, the guns might have had problems, but they were several hundreds of miles away when they cleared the planet. Just point and shoot even if they're not in range of everything and something has to hit them. Tens of thousands of various types of weapons firing would have made their attack so much harder if not impossible. Also looked cool XD good thing they were the heroes and the dark side(plot) made the leaders dumb as f :P While I haven't watched the scene recently I feel like most of their losses were from fighters.

[@solarflare623]

I’ve been thinking about drawing Star Wars fighters as airplanes. The ties seem to have a lot in common with the MiG-15 and MiG-17. They were both designed with higher caliber slower firing gun, they were both the main mass produced fighters for the “bad guy” faction and they were both upgraded into a completely new variant that was faster and more agile.

[@0predaking0]

I wouls love that people think more about the more specialized variants or evolution of the Standard TIE Fighter. Avenger Bomber (Striker model) Defender Interceptor Phantom Scout

[@primal1233]

If the Empire had hyperdrives in all their Tie Fighters, it would have made a huge difference

[@Xazamas]

Adds weight and production cost.

[@cowwithinternet]

@@Xazamas cost doesnt seem to be an issue considering how much they spend on flight academies 😭

[@NomicFin]

Not sure it would really add much, aside from increasing cost and adding extra weight that would make the fighter accelerate slower. The Rebels need hyperdrives on all their fighters because their tactics are built around small groups launching hit and run attacks, and hyperdrive-equipped fighters means they don't have to include capital ships in every squadron to carry the fighters and in case things go wrong each pilot still has a chance of escaping back to a friendly base on their own. Imperial starfighters are intended to either defend Imperial-controlled star systems or be deployed from capital ships, so they don't need their own hyperdrives. If the Empire finds a Rebel base they aren't going to send a squadron of TIEs on a hit and run attack, they'll drop an entire Star Destroyer with a full complement of fighters on that base.

[@Alfanumericablate]

... Why? Without a change in doctrine, it wouldn't change a thing but increase costs and lower performance. And what change in doctrine would justify it? Hyperdrives are so important for the rebels because they're the small side in an asymmetrical conflict. Their needs aren't the same as the Empire's.

[@cowwithinternet]

@@NomicFin In space, weight matters not.

[@nick-hu1nx]

I will watch 50 videos about Tie Interceptors, peak star wars aesthetic

[@theauraone7755]

Imagine if those TIE interceptors had hyperdrives, shields, missiles, and those backward shooting additions that the first order special forces version of Tie Fighter had.

[@TheHumanRanger]

they would have cost 5-10 times as much

[@theauraone7755]

@TheHumanRanger yeah, good point. But it would look cool at least.

[@thegreatsnowblizzard3196]

So pretty much a tie defender with a back turret?

[@theauraone7755]

@@thegreatsnowblizzard3196 basically. Just take one wing of the TIE defender off.

[@seanrea550]

Just make the tie defender the default first order tie with some upgrades like shields and power plant. Have the uparmed interceptor be the sf variant and the silencer be the elite corp fighter. Get rid of the hex wings.

[@drewgilbertson]

The gun mounts under the cockpit were just left empty on the Interceptor. In the some of the Legends novels, some bright boys would shove concussion missile launchers in there. Our gracious host might be right about missiles being expensive. But i would have at least put some dumb fire rocket launchers in ther so that the Interceptor at least had some anti-ship weapons. Unguided rockets are cheap, and using Interceptors to escort Tie Bombers rarely worked.

[@michaelnewswanger2409]

It makes more sense from a story standpoint to say missile jamming technology improved between the clone war and the rebellion. Since missiles were a large part of confederate weapons it would make sense that the republic would try to develop countermeasures.

[@Atalas5]

Originally, may just be Legends might be Disney canon, the Interceptor was up against the Advanced (the fighter Vader pilots in A New Hope) as the next level in Imperial starfighter doctrine. The Advanced was faster than a basic Fighter, but not as fast as the Interceptor or as nimble as the basic TIE. Had shield's, and a hyperdrive, and even a missile launcher. But, with all of that it was quite a bit more expensive to produce compared to the Interceptor, though not as much so as the Defender. Thrawn even tried to vouch for the Advanced, but ultimately the Empire still went with quantity over pure quality. There were also some fears that the bureaucracy would slash orders for capital ships if the starfighter's had hypderdrives.

[@merafirewing6591]

So even Thrawn loved that TIE Advanced fighter?

[@Atalas5]

@@merafirewing6591 yeah. He wanted better fighter's, and the Advanced was a step in the direction he wanted. He wasn't fond of Star Destroyers, building bigger and bigger superweapons. It is fortunate that he didn't know of any true superweapons by the time he came into absolute control of the Empire. Because while he didn't approve of them, if there had been any available he'd have used them because why waste already-spent resources?

[@gangsterHOTLINE]

I'm curious where a lot of the footage from this video came from. I definitely see the obvious ones like from the films and Rebels. But some of it I have never seen before. I'm thinking some of it is from Squadrons? Love to see a list of your footage sources. Great video as always!

[@l77scmaro2]

Imo the TIE interceptor has elements of both the Japanese Zero fighter and the German ME 262 interceptor - a combination of high speed, good firepower, with the Zero's low cost and lack of armor and self-sealing fuel tanks but, like the 262, introduced too late in the war to have any chance of turning the tide.

[@Stresscat1]

Honestly, I think Gen 2 Vulture droids would be a better option for rapid fighter response. They are ready to fly anytime, in mass.

[@GAJake]

Tie Vulture sounds like a good isea

[@janwitts2688]

Tie Int with a very small and simple shield pod would have been a complete game changer.. say 50 percent of all Ties replaced with those and the rest include bombers and some basics for training and to use up stockpiles

[@GeneGear]

Legends had the TIE-Interceptor do just that: most would get upgraded with shields, a few with hyperdrives, and there was even an attempt to load them up with proton torpedoes. By the time Thrawn came to manage the Imperial Remnant, Interceptors were effectively in an arms race with the X-Wing to see who could have the most effective general starfighter. X-Wings tended to be more durable, Interceptors faster, but they were very much true peers. Cannon obviously ended the Interceptor before it could really rise to prominence, and the First Order instead just turned the LN into a kind of gunship.

[@sethb3090]

There was the TIE Avenger (aka the TIE Advanced) which was a sibling to the Interceptor. Both were developed as production models based on the x1 prototype Vader flew, but the Empire defaulted to the cheapest one (and, to be fair, the one that minimized the logistics tail).

[@GeneGear]

@@sethb3090 The Interceptor looked more badass and evil, which of course fit the Tarkin Docrine better. Being cheaper was merely the icing on the cake.

[@sethb3090]

@@GeneGear I have to disagree because have you _seen_ FractalSponge's Avenger renders?

[@dolandarkxgrandayy6953]

How does the full economy work in Star Wars when planets like Tatooine don't use credits and water is their currency instead?

[@TheHumanRanger]

Barter, favors, elbow grease

[@russellharrell2747]

Tatooine has a population of less than a million. I’ve seen estimates at around 100k. The rest of the galaxy would not care about that at all. Tatooine is only notable as being where the Skywalker family called home for several decades.

[@placeholder4206]

My step-grandfather is a cow farmer. It’s common in rural areas to barter for what you need. I give you X you give me Y. No need for paper money.

[@willc1294]

​@placeholder4206 governments tend not to like that sort of stuff as it's below the radar for taxing 😂

[@placeholder4206]

Doesn’t stop it from happening. You think the Galactic Empire likes it? Yet the out rim still does it.

[@stuartriddell2461]

Reminds me of my days playing tie fighter (yes, I'm getting old), going from the normal tie to the interceptor was a massive game changer.

[@germanmandalorian3514]

TIE Defenders serve as Linebreaker for the first shoots and direct behind it come the Interceptors(/Bombers) after the Fighters are Nose and nose and the Dogfights can starts. Change my Mind.

[@kyr_taap]

My favourite empire fighter! Another perfect video delivered, Alan!

[@nathanieljackson5554]

If it weren't for the Tarkin Doctrine, the Imlerial Starfighter Corps. would've been a force to be reckoned with. Out of universe, if there'd been a bigger budget, we'd have seen a lot more epic space battles.

[@darkpit37]

What the empire should've done with the interceptor is just make the cockpit liveable in and of itself for maybe a week or so at a time and then order interceptor pilots to just use their cockpit as a barracks. This would make them considerably more expensive and definitely bigger (you would need food storage and a bathroom at least the size of one you would see on real life passenger aircraft) but it would allow interceptors to deploy virtually immediately when needed.

[@jamesbeach7405]

I only wish there was more E Wing content... the thing is beautiful

[@markvicferrer]

I thought the end plan was to replace all the regular TIE fighters with the Interceptor, relegating it to lighter duties. The Interceptor used the same center unit of the TIE series, so some pilots activated the built in chin blasters. All 6 blasts converging on a single target would tear right through most shields.

[@jacksongoddard8964]

Love your videos bro, you do be makin hella videos. Don’t forget to take some time for yourself!

[@josephtownsend2103]

The biggest problem I have with the TIE fighter is that spec for spec, the Droid Tri fighter was better at everything and cheaper to boot. The only thing the TIE had on the Tri was it's pilot. Which when you're outnumbered 3-2 (Tri: 40k credits, TIE: 60k credits) against ships that are faster (Tri:145 MGLT. TIE: 100 MGLT), more maneuverable (Tri: 112, TIE: 100), and packed more firepower (Tri: 3 light laser and 1 heavy laser cannon and 6 missiles, TIE: 2 light laser cannons) there is only so much the pilots can do. Not to mention how much it costs to train them.

[@kdusel1991]

In the right hands of a trained pilot TIEs are super super deadly

[@goldgodryukendo913x]

Rogue Squadron really made me love the Tie Interceptor. I own a lot of the toys of it.

[@Xenophaige_reads]

Add more guns and a bigger engine. Sounds like the spitfire.

[@brothersbornmedia]

The TIE interceptor has always been my favorite fighter. I just like its look and power.

[@Nails077]

My favorite Star Wars fighter. Nothing is cooler than this.

[@fakshen1973]

Not producing any more Star Destroyers and rushing anti-fighter frigates to screen existing Star Destroyers would have been a better call. You could still develop the Tie Interceptor at the same rates. But turn your cap. ship production to cap. ships that can nullify your opponents hit and run tactics. The problem with fighters is that when you're ambushed, you only have the fighters you have on patrol until you can launch those on standbye then backfill with your full compliment applicable fighters. As long as your weapon systems are crewed, your escorts can open fire immediately as well as adjust their formations. Sure, launch the fighters to fill in the cracks or counter attack.

[@leonielson7138]

I'm imagining that the solar wing arrays on the TIE/in can be removed, the lasers on one side or another replaced by ion cannons or hardpoints for missile pods, making it more versatile than the TIE/ln, but these modifications were only ever used in the outer rim. Sorry, just thoughts for a Star Wars campaign.

[@seanrea550]

In theory the central pod of the tie fighter should be exchangable to other tie modules. It just comes to bringing in the control systems into the cockpit which would mean a software/firmware patch and adding data connections to the wing joints.

[@leonielson7138]

@seanrea550 The pod of the TIE/line fighter has the old thrusters and a pair of laser cannons. You'd get a slower but more heavily armed interceptor or a faster but unarmed line.

[@xxDARTHPAPIxx]

Alan love the Channel! Had a question. In the EU novels pre-Disney, Victory-Class Star Destroyers were mentioned as a precursor to the Imperial Star Destroyers and ISD IIs, I think....are these still relevant post-Disney? Or did it go away just like Ben Skywalker and Anakin Solo?

[@nebiyuesayas5600]

I've always been a Rebel at heart, but the TIE Interceptor is probably my favorite Imperial vessel (and top 3 in the franchise). Hell if I were in the Rebellion, I honestly might try and capture one for myself instead of using an A-win. Maybe mod in a hyperdrive and shields, but still.

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

The Interceptors were always a hard to deal enemy in the first SW Rogue Squadron that came for N64, especially that Elite Guard in the level with the Heat Seeking missiles.

[@polishscribe674]

I wonder if there are space tankies in SW galaxy called "Impies" who write on the HoloNet how the Empire would win if it only had more TIE Interceptors.

[@CaptainGrat75]

@polishscribe674 why would a “space tankie” support the Empire which is the equivalent to a Nazi/American empire?

[@BigRoofus999]

Eyyy getting a spotlight on my favorite SW ship on a Friday, good times.

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

The Interceptor basically looked at the CIS Vulture and enhanced its design.

[@hadenmontgomery5888]

I feel the CIS influenced both the empire and rebels. Volume of fire is incredibly effective.

[@Rebel-Unit]

Thanks Allen.👍⚡️

[@Marinealver]

The thing is the TIE is commonly portrayed as a cheap fragile craft as none of the things that it has over an xwing. A fully intergrated life support system so a hole in the cockpit doesn't knock out the pilot, a helmet mounted targeting interface unlike the manual targeting computers. All this makes Sinar Fleet TIEs superior to Incom's designs. But sinc X-wings have shields they are "better"?

[@ninjalectualx]

I thought Vader's targeting computer in New Hope was on the steering wheel

[@jamesricker3997]

A TIE fighter that could operate from inprovised bases or prefabracated bases that could be set up anywhere would deny the rebellion many systems

[@Michaelgnizak]

The empire has so many planets that they couldn’t be strong everywhere. It’s much easier to say upgrade ten aircraft carriers than upgrading ever car in the world.

[@SomeDudeOnYouTube_1]

Lord alan again has bestowed upon us his succulent sustanance

[@bromine_35]

TIE interceptor is sorta the Panther of the Starwars universe

[@MissionReloadedGaming]

The victory class star destroyer was a missile ship. It has a staggering launch capability.

[@skyboygamer424]

Wow, tie interceptors??

[@danielwolf8365]

The Tie Advanced was probably the best shot the Empire had at being able to counter the rebels, they should have listened to Vader ;)

[@nathansheldahl]

The Empire could’ve just done what we do here on earth with our carriers and deploy a certain amount of fighters at all times to act as a fighter screen while the carrier is out at sea. Our screens aren’t very robust right now due to being mostly peaceful, but they do adjust the strength of them depending on circumstances like war and the like. It would mostly solve that issue right there.

[@keith6706]

It's more than simply because things are peaceful, mostly, it's because of maintenance. The Super Hornet is a very reliable aircraft compared to the Hornet, and much more reliable than the Tomcat was, but it still requires roughly 10-15 man-hours of maintenance for every hour of flight time. The more planes you put up at once, the more are going to be in the maintenance cycle, and you're going to be running short on space and personnel to do the work needed. You can surge most of a carrier's planes at once, certainly, but that upkeep cycle will hit you hard fairly quickly and you're going to find yourself without enough operational planes to maintain patrols.

[@lordMartiya]

@Generation Tech: the reason guided missile technology isn't widespread was given in ANH, immense jamming.

[@jayburn00]

"throat of force". Funny hiccup there Alan, happens to us all.

[@mikewaterfield3599]

Un shielded fighters are just negligent. Even light minimal shields for just protecting against space debris. As far as I am concerned the Advanced V1 (the inquisitors tie) was genius

[@Janus-iq9kr]

3:33 sponsor end

[@markcooper5595]

If Star Wars galactic battles happened in real life , I’m not sure which team I’d prefer to be fighting for…..on one hand the rebellion are fighting for freedom, a moral code and despise dictatorship, whilst on the other hand the empire have advanced technology and state of the art defence systems….maybe it’s best if the empire and rebellion put down their weapons and unite under one umbrella in an act of solidarity…..peace , love and harmony

[@tylercochell2253]

In the films the imperial fighters seem to be good enough. Shielded rebel fighters not piloted by a main character are usually destroyed by one burst from a tie fighter. Shielding is just an extra expense and power drain if a hit is lethal anyway.

[@magmapixel8627]

The way shields work in games like Squadrons is highly exaggerated. In the films it seems like it’s only able to deflect a glancing blow. A direct hit to the engines and you’re done, shields or not.

[@jessehovez4310]

The way mans said Sun Wukong went waaaaaaaay to hard shit was the cleanest accent ever

[@MercuryIsHg]

Missiles vs laser canons? In *space* missiles are harder to replace. Laser cannon has 'amo' as long as you have power. Were Star destroyers designed properly they should include large weapons factories and asteroid mining kit eg Alistair Reynolds' Light Huggers. But hey this is fiction and fun 😂 Thanks for the good work.

[@jervisjavier]

Yeah. Given how detailed this video is, you should do colaboration with Ekhartsladder to do content like this.

[@stefaneer9120]

I have an 2007 TIE-Interceptor, from Lego.

[@captainroyalty904]

Did he just said our old Philippine boxer Manny Pacquiao? 7:21

[@XymonViktor]

PHILIPPINES!!!!!!

[@russellharrell2747]

Once again, errors abound. The Interceptor’s wings have a smaller surface area than the /ln. The Interceptor also had double cannons on the wing hubs, set in the gap on the wings. They were visually identical to the cannon barrels on the wing tips. The ‘chin’ guns in the cockpit were also identical to the wing tip barrels. So, laser cannons X 10, at least as far as hard points go. The defender had a similar wing design, so the presumed 6 wing top cannons plus chin guns were possibly backed up by 6 more cannons. But there’s also the variant that placed huge honking missiles in the wing gaps, so there’s that too. And of course there’s canon evidence from ANH that, at least for the TIEs defending the Death Star, that TIEs do indeed have shields. Plus the only on film OT evidence of TIEs lacking Hyperdrives is the discussion of an imperial fighter flying near Alderaan despite the lack of a nearby known imperial base. The crew of the falcon got a good look at the aft portion of the TIE fighter that took a few pot shots at them, and it lacked any obvious outward design differences to nearly all other TIEs in the OT. The exceptions are Vader’s x1, the bombers/shuttles, and the little known use of the Die Cast TIE fighter in some scenes in RotJ. The Die Cast toy featured a stubby tail section on an otherwise standard looking TIE fighter (with possibly a third center chin cannon). This tail resembles a truncated version of the extended tail in the x1, and may represent a variant with hyperdrive. The performance stats for this model is unfortunately unknown.

[@Wookie120]

The Japanese 20mm was more powerful, but .50 cal onboard US fighters was way better in that it had a faster cyclic rate of fire, and was more accurate. According to Saburo Sakai, a leading Japanese ace, they tended to use their light machine guns to find the range, then used their slower firing 20MM cannons. The Hispano 20mm cannon used by the UK forces was worlds better than the Japanese 20mm hands down.

[@devo1977s]

Should have compared the Tie fighters laser cannons to the A-10 Warthog GAU-8 Avenger 30mm gatling gun, that would have been a better comparison, I'm going to ask chat GPT to make me a TIE Interceptor using 4 GAU-8 Avenger 30 mm Gatling guns 😂😂

[@AvroBellow]

Not even the relatively powerful shields and armour of the Y-Wing was immune to the firepower of the TIE Interceptor... The B-Wing has entered the chat.

[@tommytwotacos8106]

What I don't quite get is why lasers? You can defeat laser fire by making your ship reflective or emitting a fog that breaks up the light beam. This is why most scifi franchises opt for plasma based weapons.

[@nuclearattackwombat8390]

It turns out defeating laser weapons is more complicated than you'd expect. Most weaponized lasers operate in the X-ray spectrum, and X-ray mirrors are *expensive*. Making an armor that reflects X-rays and still works against conventional weapons is a major technological hurdle. Frequency-shifting lasers also exist, so it might be possible to defeat a reflective coating by shifting the laser frequency to something the mirror doesn't reflect. Fog defenses could work, but they could also reduce the effectiveness of your own sensors and mark your position for conventional weapons. There's also the problem of fast-moving craft accelerating out of their own fog cloud. Star Wars "lasers" are more like plasma weapons than actual lasers in any case.

[@ditzydoo4378]

A question: could not the standard TIE be converted to an Interceptor model? They both share the same frame save for the upgraded drive solar panels and laser cannons on same.

[@HarryoofromAquila]

Where is the background from

[@seanrea550]

This is part of the reason why it is a conundrum that the standard tie of the first order would not be the interceptor.

[@willfrommel508]

Could you do an episode on non-laser based weapons in the star wars universe? Besides proton torpedoes it feels like they are hardly ever touched on in the movies

[@MaliciousMallard]

The TIE Fighter is TIE/*L*n, not TIE/in. The TIE/in was the interceptor. TIE/ln is short for "line" fighter RE: 5:13

[@reidveryan9414]

The TIE Interceptor is alot like the FW-190, it just looks down right mean.

[@Psub950]

Please make a video on 200 FO Stormtroopers vs 200 Clone Troopers

[@Gregory11811]

😅”space-space”😅

[@PeterFendrich]

Shields and armor are nice, but history of warfare has time and again proven that the ability that speed and maneuverability allows for to choose the battle and start it on your own terms trumps that nearly every time; if I was a skilled pilot in the Star Wars universe, I would much rather be in the cockpit of a tie interceptor then nearly any Rebel craft.

[@daveerk6573]

DOWN WITH THE REBELLION ‼️‼️‼️

[@DoctorSinister1]

Nice view of Coruscant outside your window.

[@Janus-iq9kr]

id just make a lot of missiles with bad hyperdrives ones it sees a isd it locks on then boom a hit no human in danger expensive yes but if its controlled bye a ai it learns from every hit

[@aka-47k]

gz now you are a real youtuber, raid sponsorship rofl.

[@tba113]

Something gets lost with the Rebellion's success in using fighters: the X- and Y-Wings worked _for the Rebellion._ They would not have helped the Empire much, because the two different sides had fundamentally different goals. And, for that matter, the Rebels would have enjoyed more or less the same results if they'd been flying all-gas-no-brakes unshielded speedsters like TIEs instead. The Alliance military doctrine for most of the Galactic Civil War was to raid, not to conquer, which means they mostly controlled the timing of the engagement. Launching fighters can take a long time if they have to start from scratch - but if the Rebs were planning a raid with ships that relied on a carrier like a TIE does, any sane Rebel squadron leader would have the pilots already suited up with fighters preflighted before the carrier dropped out of hyperspace. If your ops are limited to zipping in to break things while the enemy's big guns aren't in play, then pretty much any fighter system will do.

[@yecnay25]

Raid got him boys. The Skinwalker character was a cry for help. That’s not Allen.

[@Barbariandisks]

The Empire should have mass produced the Tie Advanced

[@Alexandragon1]

Thx for the video!

[@MrSHADOWANGEL999]

Battleship focus vs Carrier focus in space

[@deanallenjones]

am I the only one who misses the "If you are watchign this, you are generation tech"? I'm kind of in between generations, Sometimes called a "xenial" , concidred an old man by mileniuals and a kid by gen x. it can be ahrd to feel like you belong, but that line did

[@Yeetmasterji]

Just finished rewatch rebels for the 5 time such a good insight on how incompetent the empire wad

[@andreasschroeter8347]

Thanks for my Star Wars fix Allen