This was designed for me? I’m INSULTED. - Nokia 3210

[@CosmicKangaroo]

HMD was actually founded by Ex-Nokia employees and is also made up of Nokia's former mobile division that was sold to Microsoft that HMD Acquired in 2016. So Nokia is less of a Zombie Brand, and more of a brand that was adopted by its aunt and uncle.

[@puneetsharma1437]

it like alphabet own google

[@JanPeterDeVries]

Thank you. So much wrong in this video I'm wondering if he's doing it on purpose to rage bait. Before my company paid for my phones I had several of the resurrected Nokias, they were really good bang for your buck phones with Android One (clean stock Android). Apparently they've kind of sold out with the more recent models, I recall the 3310 revival in 2017 was pretty good.

[@Iisakki3000]

Yes. Though it's hard to believe how crappy everything they make these days is. Those guys used to make such great stuff.

[@jvaheed]

Nokia is Spiderman confirmed.

[@superstarr_26]

Nokia is Harry Potter confirmed

[@PrinceAlberts]

We’re overlooking the obvious question here. How many drug dealers and call girls did his school have?

[@kuebby]

Every high school has a couple of drug dealers, it's the call girls I'm concerned about.

[@blazzmatazz9051]

​@kuebby someone was always sellin herb.

[@Lil_Sillyguy203]

@@blazzmatazz9051 LOL true

[@DeinonychusCowboy]

"say you didn't go to public school without saying you didn't go to public school"

[@PrinceAlberts]

@@DeinonychusCowboy My public school had, to the best of my knowledge, zero call girls and one dude who sold cigarettes. I guess I was lucky.

[@Repsikka]

4:50 Nokia and HMD Global are both Finnish companies, HMD Global was started by former Nokia executives, so no, Nokia just didn't rent out their brand all willy nilly, also, HMD Global does other than dummy phones, Al though, far from high end.

[@Connie_TinuityError]

They used to do high end (flagship) phones for the first 2 years, but ever since the Nokia 9 PureView disaster, they've completely given up on them.

[@jayasuriyas2604]

Hmd products are utter fucking trash tho. Made a huge mistake buying their tablet.

[@juusoleinonen]

@@Connie_TinuityError Nokia 9 was a good ass fucking phone. I got one at launch and its still running well, other than battery starting to die during the past few months

[@aquaponieee]

​@@juusoleinonenyup, unfortunately software was a mess, they couldn't deliver the android 11 update and it was a commercial flop because performance couldn't complete with apple and samsung

[@AndreVanKammen]

@@Connie_TinuityError I liked the Nokia 9 pureview phone, great HDR raws and a fast SOC for a reasonable price. It broke eventualy but it was not the disaster the media made it out to be.

[@arigato7788]

No one cross-shops this against a used iPhone, Linus. You're buying one of these because you're adamant on not getting a smartphone.

[@Jehty_]

Then why are you spending $100? Get one for under 30 bucks.

[@JanPospisilArt]

@@Jehty_ Most dumb phones don't do anything over 2G and those that do cost a similar amount.

[@Jehty_]

@@JanPospisilArt there are plenty of 4g phones that are a lot cheaper than $100.

[@JanPospisilArt]

@@Jehty_ 4g dumb phones? I don't think so. I've found like three models, this Nokia included and they cost a similar amount. (or if they were cheaper, they were missing something else essential.)

[@Jehty_]

@@JanPospisilArt Nokia alone already sells at least three models that are cheaper than the one in this video. 105, 110, 225 (always the 4g variant) The cheapest in the US I found is the TCL Flip 2 for $20. But that is carrier locked. Other countries have a lot more available.

[@RealDaryl]

Predictive T9? No. I remeber having my phone in my pocket, in class and being able to message my friend, with full confidence that I'd unlocked, opened SMS, wrote the message, hit send and picked the right contact. With no predictive T9.

[@alexrusu2905]

I used to text my whole class in English class to tell them the test answers without pulling it out my pocket

[@DonVetto-vx9dd]

That is definitely a lost art ​@@alexrusu2905

[@Fusion05]

Yeah it's worse than T9 imo. The predections are never right. I especially hate ones that auto fill it

[@ThePortuguesePlayer]

Yeah, I'm still from that time and my colleagues did exactly that. I didn't have that skill toned in because I've always had a hard on for qwerty keyboards on phones, so I was quite literally playing a different game.

[@itsmilan4069]

yeah those were the days

[@adrianomartinez6231]

this is for: -kids -grandpas -workers -digital minimalists -phone addicts

[@thepinktreeclub]

great, i'm all of that

[@nmac101]

@@thepinktreeclub so you're a kid whose kids had kids, is a digital minimalist, a phone addict, and a worker

[@iExploder]

@@thepinktreeclub "I'm every woman!"

[@seanryder5473]

-drug dealers -spies -Luddites -Amish

[@thepinktreeclub]

@@nmac101 yea man life is hard

[@terrabits]

6:40 "Is it meant to enrage you?" It certainly won't N-Gage you 😉

[@AxR558]

As a former N-Gage owner, I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this and the memories of the golden age of bonkers phone design.

[@samiraperi467]

@@AxR558 Used to have an N-Gage (bought cheap from a clearance sale). I liked it (came with a handsfree so no need to sidetalk) but something failed after a year and it died. It's still the only phone I've had that straight up broke. (I did brick a Siemens way back with a failed firmware update.)

[@terrabits]

@@AxR558 It looked cool in the ads, I realy wanted one for a while. Fortunately, I couldn't afford much as a teenager

[@Tomazack]

​@@samiraperi467I had the N-Gage which died after a year for me as well plus a 60 something which died within less than a year. No more Nokia after that, realised they only made actual e-waste at that point.

[@user-ot7wb8sy1v]

Ngage QD user here. The only bad thing it have is the rubber grip always crappy.

[@Tadrax]

I'm extremely disappointed in how the team have NOT done their homework on Nokia.... The company is not a zombie brand, they have gone global enterprise level with network infrastructure, mobile networks and cloud network services (to name a few) for many years now. They are one of the global key players in telecommunications, besides Ericsson for example.

[@delta250a]

Yeah, they dropped the ball on this video. Instead of faffing the phone off, they should concentrate on who the phone is for not compare it to modern stuff. 10 hours talk time? Hell yes I would love that.

[@saulgoodman2018]

I know? And someone that knows about tech, should know that.

[@RedBeardp]

you are right…. also (almost) nobody cares

[@Scrivlings]

The point was that the Nokia branding for this phone is nothing to do with Nokia really. It's a completely unrelated company that licenced the brand name to sell a crappy product. Which is effectively what a zombie brand is. The fact that Nokia does still exist and yet are still doing this makes it worse not better.

[@Jehty_]

@@delta250a Who is this phone for? People who want to overpay for the brand name?

[@bush2137]

This is perfect for a secondary business only phone. I could turn it off after work, not worry about anything and still have my actual smartphone to use. I love this idea and will definitely be getting one

[@karsten_m]

A version without a camera would be useful for spaces where cameras are not allowed.

[@DerSpeggn]

Get a 120$ Samsung a14 or similar, and you can even text with your customers....

[@drishalballaney6590]

Or...even better get a Xiaomi or OnePlus (or even Nothing) phone maybe

[@acidviper1]

Nokia 105 Neo has no camera otherwise similar features and cost 17 bucks in my local electronics store. samsung yatelay cost around 25. So that makes this look really expensive.

[@samiraperi467]

@@DerSpeggn Or, you know, you could use the 3210 to text.

[@caliorbustarika3310]

In addition to the fact that HMD was made by ex-Nokia employees, Nokia also does still exist and is pretty big in telecommunication technology. They have a pretty substantial office in Ottawa, Canada.

[@Justakatto]

Isn't linus from Canada? How come he's unaware of this?

[@cubertmiso]

2nd biggest or 1st RAN builder etc etc

[@Fortzon]

@@Justakatto I guess he's only interested in consumer tech and only sometimes does behind the scenes videos for industry.

[@caliorbustarika3310]

@@Justakatto Yeah, that's why I mentioned the note about Canada, lol, Nokia has like 10 more offices in the US. I think Linus tends to have a blind spot when it comes to industries he doesn't care about, which is, like fair. But still kind of a weird thing to say in a video without research...

[@Plain--Jane]

​@@Justakatto He is quite literally on the opposite side of the continent from Ontario? Why don't you know about every single thing happening in all the states lol

[@tissot233]

Nokia is pretty far from zomby brand. They employe around 90 000 people and are essentially one of the 3 companies (Huawei, Nokia and Ericsson) that control 90% of world's mobile infra. If you are using phone in Western world you are vey likely connected to some Nokia device in the backend. Nokia has licensed the brand for phone use to HMD that is old Nokia executives and they bought very small share of the company 1-2 years ago. Mother Nokia will never go back to making phones I am sure though.

[@ikuturso7570]

It is pretty much a zombie consumer brand though. People do not tend to care about pure B2B companies that much.

[@santtis]

Nokia is still making a lot of things. They just sold the phone business. So it's not a zombie brand.

[@Iisakki3000]

Mainly 5G and fiber infrastructure stuff and other related things. So not a zombie brand but they also don't really make anything consumers could buy.

[@ZnakeTech]

Yeah I was about to say nothing like RCA, they are still very much around, and still a huge company, but they have pretty much pulled out of the consumer market. I just have to look over on the wall next to my router to confirm, the fiber to cobber converter box my ISP put up a year ago on my wall says Nokia on it. Edit - and the same applies to Ericsson, which was my go to brand, and a close competitor to Nokia back in the day, a close cousin from Sweden, Sony took over the phone business, but they didn't cease to exist, they moved in a similar direction to Nokia.

[@insainllama]

It’s similar to how GE still makes a ton of non consumer goods but their appliance division was sold off and is operated by a different company.

[@MidasImperius]

The car tyre branch, Nokian is still chugging along as well.

[@castform57]

​@@MidasImperiusnokian tyres and rubber boots are some of the best around.

[@ferdievanschalkwyk1669]

Someone carrying this phone is about to do one of three things 1. try not to wet their pants (kids) 2. try not to wet their pants (elderly) 3. going to make someone else wet their pants (hitman)

[@HrLBolle]

or wet their work pants because its like 30°C in the half shadow and those pants are made out of Cordura fabric, not very breathable.

[@SkemeKOS]

4. Not do any of those. (normal guy)

[@paradoxzee6834]

Funny enought people who go hunting might carry a dumb phone, because if they have bloody hands using a smartphone would be really hard, so they have a dumb phone in case they need to call someone

[@tsartomato]

or if you need 3+ phones for work

[@opfipip3711]

My questions (that sadly are left unanswered): - How long does the Battery really last, and how available are replacement batteries? - How is the sound quality with headphones? - How is the music app? - How good can it be used without looking at the screen? - Does it handle random/shuffled playback of hundreds of mp3 well? - is it easy to navigate by folder structure **and** mp3 tags? - How is its sleep behaviour? Can it, similar to some old phones, continue playback while sleeping?

[@AlTheEngineer]

yeah, this review is a joke tbh. he really didn't even try... It was just a rant-fest.

[@johnlucas6683]

It is short circuit channel, more on about unboxing and not a thorough review. But those are great points, I hope someone could review them.

[@JanPospisilArt]

Battery lasts a week+, depending on use. (and which networks you connect to) Headphone sound is probably nowhere near audiophile standards, it's ok for me. The music player is confusing so far, I couldn't find a way to navigate in a folder structure. (by default it just lists all available mp3s it scrapes on the SD card.)

[@tonn333]

​@@johnlucas6683who finds it useful I wonder? Unboxing and looking at it for few minutes.... To me it's absolutely useless. Low effort garbage just to earn some money.

[@nunoaguiar2525]

If you want a mp3 player, go get one. They cost less than $10. Buying a $100 phone to listen to music on the go (not even it's main feature) doesn't make any sense.

[@Kinkajou1015]

That is the kind of phone kids should have, simple, makes calls and can text, no microtransaction laden games. Children don't need smartphones.

[@BiSq__-]

My Nokia which I bought like 2 months ago, brand new actually has some games which you have to pay for to play.

[@Tyler-z8r]

Agreed. My kids will probably get a dumb phone like this when they're almost into middle school, but they'll have their own laptop or desktop once they're old enough to walk. They might get a smart phone once they enter high school. Not sure, only if they can handle it and how much of a distraction it can be. Mark Zuckerberg was tutored in computer science as a kid and now look at him. Technological literacy (using AND creating software) and mathematical ability should start at a young age for everyone. Suffice it to say, they will NEVER have a fucking iPad.

[@Renegade-g2w]

It's more of a phone suited to adults.

[@MrNick99]

​@Tyler-z8r I am very grateful my parents never gave me a smartphone but my siblings that have kids definitely would love to be able to give their kids an iPad so they stop complaining and are quiet

[@DarthBoolean]

Calling Linus the target seems really disingenuous when he declared "No NFC" a deal breaker on a budget smart phone a few days ago.

[@Stay_away_from_my_swamp_water]

I think he meant KZbinrs making content out of it

[@calxshaw06]

I think he meant his age demographic, the OG Nokias were the top of the line when he was young

[@Ollytodd]

Or because it can handle being dropped alot

[@BlackParade01]

It is a deal breaker on a *smart* phone tbh

[@YuokoII]

Have you ever used nfc? Because from your message it seems like answer is no. Nfc is fucking amazing.

[@johnperish]

I think this kind of misses the point of a device like this. Its a "dumb" device meant to sever your connection and addiction to things like social media.

[@elone3997]

That's what I thought too in that It's not trying to be something it's not, so being negative about the specs isn't really fair. I would say that the phone is way overpriced for what it is though which I feel does need to be brought up as a low point.

[@cortesacrawford]

I mean he addresses that at the end. Just get a used Iphone and set it up in kid mode so you can't access any social media.

[@attilaszovan]

There are (old) people they don't give a darn about smart phones and are used to the old system, how is an iPhone in kids mode useful to them?

[@KarnageGaming]

i own an oukitel wp19 and its stupidly large battery meant i had to put the phone in a bag of some sort. while out so it had the exact same effect.

[@bumpsy]

you can get the same for less money, though. This is a pure cash-grab using the nokia branding

[@mizaru666]

Snake II was better anyway than the original version. It had several maps and some of them allowed you to go through the edges. This version of Snake looks kinda bad still.

[@Rayjacker]

Looked so bad when Linus lost my PC crashed in compassion.

[@yarharyar]

You haven't really played snake until you've played snayke!

[@IntrepidSpliff]

Check out the floatplane exclusive: 30 minutes of Linus playing snake, UNCUT.

[@saulgoodman2018]

NO

[@joshuascholar3220]

no!

[@joshdunigan1481]

He has no idea how to play snake I'm not watching. If it was his snake uncut there may be a bigger market for views.

[@petermuller2583]

in germany, this costs more around 75 usd converted. also funny how linus says "how can this have double sim etc and my flagship not" as if it wasnt for the absolute greed of companies like every deciscion that has been made by phone manefactures since the smartphone era. who asked for glued in batteries, glued on backs, removal of ir blasters or sim or micro sd or headphone jacks or accessories in the box (which now produces more co2 than it saves because you have to make a seperate order in seperate packaging if you need the brick etc)? no one. looking back, smartphones peaked at the oneplus 7 pro. everything after this has just been a pissing competition between companies who can do the least amount of upgrades and sell it to you for the same (or higher) price next year. thats also why smartphone sales are going down and brands like nokia are on the rise again, phones are the same since at least 6 years and people are starting to get fed up with beeing plugged into the internet 24/7.

[@MrProteinK]

Yep. I'm considering something like this. I'm too plugged into the Internet all the time. I wish Sony Ericsson was still around with a walkman or cybershot phone.

[@AxR558]

Similar pricing to here in the UK (around $79 US without taxes). I'd still argue that the golden age of mobiles was 2002-2006 when they came in all sorts of shapes and sizes, they could flip, slide out keyboards, be a games console (N-Gage). The market was certainly much more interesting back then than it is now with the only real questions being "What brand would you like your glass slab to be and do you want it to be large or extra pro max plus large?"

[@stoff3r]

No one is making a separate order for a charger unless they dont already have like 7 chargers in a box somwhere upstairs.

[@AlTheEngineer]

@@stoff3r not really ... every time I've upgraded my phone ... a new charging speed or standard is released ... forcing me to buy a new charger to "take advantage" of my new phone's charging speed and or top off capability ... be it wireless charging or fast USB-C charging. In the past 3 to 4 years alone, I've had to swap chargers at least 3 times to support my new phone, my laptop and charging a new power bank that I bought (which takes advantage of really fast charging). So as much as I would like to agree with you ... but its simply not the case. Dude not only dose the charger brick itself matter ... I had to upgrade "cables" several times ... since some cables only supported 20W, some only did 40W, and with the laptop I need a 65W capable USB-C cable ... and so on .... It is a MESS and nothing but greed, absolutely NO positive effect on the environment whatsoever, just like OP said - its a massive NEGATIVE effect on the environment ... as much as they want to green wash their greedy actions.

[@stoff3r]

@@AlTheEngineer you are living the fast lifestyle my man, charging the phone red hot everytime. I plug in the phone overnight and it plans itself to be ready by morning.

[@warmoaran3]

I think the whole point of this is that it isnt a smart phone, its just a phone, it can call, text.. thats all some people want, instead of doom scrolling short form content, being glued to their phone and not being in the moment. it does what its meant to do PERFECTLY. "why not just buy an old one?" because older ones dont have LTE, and will be useless when 2G and 3G are shut down.

[@NWinnVR]

So it's for people with _zero_ self control...

[@warmoaran3]

@@NWinnVR no, but could also be for people wanting to escape it. Its main purpose is that it does what people need a phone to do. Why buy something with features you'll never need? Why get a phone with so many apps, data collection, so many meh cameras, and constant internet access? When you can get a LTE connected PHONE for calls and texts? Some basic games for when you're bored.. and a mediocre camera for basic pics?

[@Dat_Typ]

​@@NWinnVRMy dad uses one for Work. He works in construction and His Smartphones would Always Break because they'd fall, and He'd regularly forget to Charge it so the battery would usually be empty, also almost all Smartphones are so large These days, when they're in your Pocket in a physical Job they can kinda hinder your movement. This has None of those Problems, the battery lasts for days, it's small, and it doesn't Turn into e-waste / require repairs after a Drop

[@MrXaniss]

Nokia is one of the biggest global companies for isntalling 5G lines and all that right? they are still a VERY profitable company i think.

[@jrjrjrrj]

They have fiber optics technologies

[@Polyeith]

I mean technically that's a different Nokia than the one that makes these phones

[@XGD5layer]

They're profitable but the telcom business is not THAT lucrative.

[@hiriotapa1983]

@@Polyeith Yeah, this is HMD which uses the Nokia brand name.

[@deepspacecow2644]

Ehh, their fiber stuff is still highly regarded, but the cell carriers are trying to move away from their 5g because of lack of openRAN support (not propietary and allows for mixing and matching of parts).

[@TehAlekzi]

I don't see why this gets shitted on so much, it's literally a phone for those that don't want a smartphone. HMD has made them for years and just last summer I bought grandpa Nokia 2660 Flip to replace his dead Doro. The market is there for these phones and elderly people especially like the familiarity of older Nokia's. Linus sounded so disappointed it doesn't have wifi, well for what do you even need a wifi on a phone like this? It's as if it's expected to have some sort of internet connection even though you can't use it for anything.

[@bloomallcaps]

Even for children or old relatives this sounds useless as fuck, like what if you want to send them a WhatsApp? Or what if they want to see the news? Facebook?

[@TehAlekzi]

@@bloomallcaps You answered your own question, old people doesn't use phones for anything else than calling. And you clearly aren't the targeted customer for dumb phones if you wonder what they're for.

[@abhiabzy]

@@bloomallcaps can use Text , call , voice record , can use online payment (via UPI) , really good battery life , and standby time , no Social media distraction . it have so much uses cases if your world don't revolve around online apps.

[@CathrineMacNiel]

@@bloomallcaps have you considered that WhatsApp isn't the world and also is pretty shite? No seriously, call your ma and grandma today!

[@warmoaran3]

@@abhiabzy exactly.

[@OceanAvian]

Nokia has over 150 times the number of employees as HMD

[@salemas5]

Thats the phone you should give to your kid, not most expensive samsung or apple phone.

[@Djuntas]

used iphone only way..iphone 6-8

[@jarnoob]

@@Djuntas fuck no. Why would you do that to an innocent child.

[@f.i.b3027]

@@jarnoobare you implying that old iPhones are unusable? An iPhone 7 and maybe a 6 still functions fine for regular tasks like messaging or browsing.

[@erebostd]

@@f.i.b3027you aren’t missing the point. You miss the solar system where the point is located…

[@simonupton-millard]

Nope not for my kids it has the Internet on it, my kids phones when they are old enough will have no Internet untill they are 18 and pay for there own contract, my Internet at home is a little locked down, not a prude or anything just don't want my kids seeing some of the stuff I have online esp while they are young, and definitely no socal media

[@blackspirit1129]

6:26 the song is in 7/8 time signature doe 🔥

[@gamebuster800]

"Why did we do this!?" "Because they pay us" Aaah my daily job described in two sentences.

[@cashy57]

I'm pretty sure you could go off of the edge in snake... Maybe not in whatever the 'original' incarnation was, but I could on my old Nokia phone.

[@jensv874]

Yup, original snake cant go over edges. Every snake after could go over edges.

[@ebridgewater]

"and for some reason, HMD has re-released it due to overwhelming demand" Obviously that's the reason...

[@JanPospisilArt]

I just bought one of these. It's fine. A bit baffling to see that some OS related things are less functional than on my 10 year old Nokia Asha (it also inexplicably had a 5 MPx camera), but it still does the things I want it to do just fine, the battery lasts and it was cheap. One of the things I specifically want is NOT a smartphone - I don't want a big phone, don't care about apps and whatnot. Small, durable, lasting battery, headphone jack = all I need.

[@arranmc182]

T9 texting was the best you could type out a whole text message without even looking at the screen, when in high school I was able to text people while the phone was still in my pocket thanks to t9, only had to look at the phone to read the incoming messages.

[@i_Kruti]

Nice to see that NOKIA is still putting efforts on this phone....because here in india...there a quite demand for these phones....!! People like our grandparents who haven't acquainted with the modern technologies.....these phones are a great deal for them...!!

[@brunodinis7454]

...!!

[@nemberma]

Calling Nokia a "zombie brand" while your calls are in fact probably routed through Nokia HW and Nokia SW in Canada.. This was not it Linus 😅

[@gazwj]

You could go over the edge in later versions of OG nokia snake 🐍

[@Iisakki3000]

Yeah 3210 didn't have it but they introduced it with 3310.

[@CathrineMacNiel]

its what distinguishes Snake from Snake 2.

[@HoroJoga]

Snake II on some early Nokia models (I think that 3310 for example) allowed you to go beyond the edges to warp to the other side of the screen.

[@kenzieduckmoo]

parents have been asking for something like this for years

[@unvergebeneid]

Call girls and drug dealers? Man, Canadian highschools are _rough!_

[@herranton]

Rough? I guess that depends on your point of view.

[@unvergebeneid]

@@herranton let's take the point of view of the highschooler moonlighting as a call girl for example ;)

[@herranton]

@@unvergebeneid lol, I'm sure nobody in your high school was doing drugs or having sex, or both.

[@Tyler-z8r]

@@herranton high schoolers doing drugs and having sex, yes. Paying fellow high school girls for sex? Or worse, adults paying high school girls for sex? No. I haven't heard of this "high school call girl" idea before tbh. Though depending on what month of the year it is, on average about 1/8 of "high school girls" are 18 so maybe it isn't that crazy. I've heard of the cliche story where a high school teacher goes to a strip club and sees one of his senior students dancing up on the pole.

[@lostGash]

complains about a bad soundtrack for the second game on a phone where he listed the internal storage capacity in MEGABYTES

[@AksuLightning]

Finland is partially mentioned. Old Nokia phones had a good battery, I think those lasted two to three days. I'm still waiting for a rebooted model of the Nokia E7. Torilla tavataan.

[@falsemcnuggethope]

The battery used to last over a week.

[@AksuLightning]

Yeah, if it is charged well.

[@keepernod2888]

Because old phones had nothing to really drain the battery.

[@nicolaim4229]

I remember having 10 days without recharge.

[@chubi167]

This type of thing is always so intriguing to me. I hate being always online, but I still need a smartphone for work.

[@rodgamwo]

Might get it for a second phone so I can turn my phone on more often. It’s only like $90 anyway.

[@ilamparithi.]

Nokia is NOT a zombie brand 3:55 there are classic nokia snake games that do not have walls

[@SaltyMaud]

Nokia is a zombie brand when it comes to phones. Nokia phones haven't existed for a long time now, only the name still exists plastered on HMD phones.

[@Lonewolf_121]

Nokia mobile is a zombie brand, just because the main company does other things doesn't mean that the mobile phone segment isn't dead

[@privacyvalued4134]

The one thing that your uber fancy 2 to 10 times as expensive smartphone doesn't do but this phone does do better for $95 is have a removable battery that can be replaced. I'd take a slightly thicker smartphone with replaceable battery for $200.

[@txcforever]

These are phones for people that don't want or can't use a smart phone. Problem is that for them there are cheaper Nokia devices that are more or less the same. My dad gets a new Nokia phone every couple of years for like 40-50 euros tops simply because he refuses to learn how to operate a smart phone. Probably a lot of older people think the same and that's their target group. Nokia 3210 probably is more expensive because it also targets people being nostalgic about their first phone. Snake 2 on 3310 also didn't have borders around the screen. I guess that's the version they are basing this version on.

[@JanPospisilArt]

The cheaper Nokias don't usually do anything over 2G. This does 2,3 and 4G.

[@Dr0nion]

We're getting these for our warehouse workers. For the price it means we don't have any management overheads and they do what we need... Phone and SMS.

[@Jehty_]

Why this phone exactly? Why not a much cheaper one?

[@Dr0nion]

@@Jehty_ I'm not familiar with any cheaper options in my region, these things are pretty much the cheapest thing on the market

[@Jehty_]

@@Dr0nion I would recommend to check again. Because I would highly doubt that you aren't able to find one cheaper wherever you are

[@Jehty_]

@@Blackfatrat yes, and most new phones do have 4g for exactly that reason.

[@Tyler-z8r]

@@Jehty_ most brand new phones are going to cost much more than $95 bro. This is a fine option for a work phone for employees. If you aren't going to suggest another option, then why are you even fucking talking

[@itsmilan4069]

5:04 I wouldn't want this to age like milk 👀

[@larsborntrager8987]

6:30 that soundtrack is in 7/8 🤩!

[@blackspirit1129]

HAHAHA! you beat me to it

[@kartikgupta9117]

where, tell me more. i really liked the sound track, can i get a link for it...

[@baronofclubs]

I legit started getting hyped and imagined a full backing track, lmao.

[@falsemcnuggethope]

They ran out of interest to even fill the last beat?

[@Sacto1654]

At least the phone supports Voice over LTE. A lot of old feature phones don’t and they are potentially useless on modern digital cellphone networks.

[@DeinonychusCowboy]

Voice Not Over LTE was such a stupid early 4G decision that we are now paying the price for

[@ThePortuguesePlayer]

Still waiting for the remake of the N900, N95, N81 and 6760. Also, waw, 64 MB of RAM is actually a lot for that phone! It's the same amount of RAM used on mid to high tier Symbian phones back in the day. The N81 was one of the main N-Gage 2.0 gaming phone and that one only had 32 MB. My 6760 claims to have 128 MB in the task manager, but I suspect it's actually 64. Regardless, I was never able to fill it all, even if running Windows and Quake 3 Arena. EDIT: Nevermind, it is indeed 128MB, I was looking at it wrong. It's just that I have so much stuff set on auto-boot that half of it is filled at all times.

[@lyianx]

But does it harvest your data? Probably not nearly as much. No wifi and no GPS means no (precise) location tracking.

[@nicolaim4229]

How would it harvest anything without internet? All the tracking will be done by your network provider, not the phone.

[@TetraSky]

This could be good for old people who just want a phone.

[@basshead.]

too small

[@madcatlady]

I just bought one, it does everything I use a phone for and hopefully won't go flat when I need one, for everything else I have a perfectly good PC and an iPad

[@dhoome1234ify]

Blame HMD for not doing anything after acquiring Nokia...

[@X82YT]

I hate HMD. Their first nokia android phones were the best bamg for your buck phones but then they just dropped the ball.

[@Tuuza123]

They didn't acquire Nokia, they just bought the right to use the name

[@masterofdiesaster4001]

They licensed the name and not acquired the company

[@Zesty_Pixel]

​Yeah my first phone was a Nokia 6.1 plus. Glass back, metal frame, stock android, great processor. Just for about 11,000 Rupees (​131 USD) . There was not a single phone in this price that had any of that. Were all just Chinese trash.@@X82YT

[@loicvanderwielen]

Honestly, I have one (Nokia G50) and it works pretty well. Their latest endeavours also push towards increased repairability. Case in point with the HMD Skyline that got a 9/10 from iFixit on repairability.

[@luigipunk25]

Some of the newer "nokia" smartphones by HMD have been actually very solid. I'm lowkey kinda glad tho they recently ditched Nokia branding and renamed all their smartphones to HMD. I think it's just better to leave Nokia to do what they currently do = Internet infrastructure. Their phones are no more.

[@bluebirdsigma]

I dunno, I feel like too many of these HMD Nokia phones were too low spec despite being marketed as mid-range

[@speedwaynutt]

I would love to see them testing more of these featureless phones.

[@warmoaran3]

they're called feature phones

[@falsemcnuggethope]

They already test the iphone. It's basically this but prettier.

[@Mustiii]

I used to own the Nokia 8 a sorta flagship HMD made a good while back and that thing was legit such a good phone, the display, the camera and the OS were great and the specs as well. Genuinely one of the best phone experiences i have had.

[@Fragdemented]

That picture of the crew was a Renaissance Painting! How Dare You?!?!

[@JamesR624]

Okay, I am upset that internet isn't avalible in NA. I unironically, GENUINELY want this. I miss my cell phone being simple, nostalgic, and not full of junk. A physical keyboard for quick texting? Yes. A microSD so it can be a nice little mp3 player without stupid streaming? Yes. If they had proper band support. I would ABSOLUTELY be buying this immediately.

[@fakealizer8280]

your best bet is a HTC Dream lmao

[@cirmothe9]

The real test is throwing it at a concrete wall and seeing if the wall survives. I took a nokia to my hand in high school and it caused some major swelling.

[@AstrologicalLesedi]

The Way he said integrated camera reminded me of a device where the camera and flash was an attachment 😅

[@DryPaperHammerBro]

Love the "oh, god..." after announcing it was dbrand lmao

[@JamesR624]

"How about I tell you about our sponsor, Dbrand-- oh god...." XD

[@caeryllium]

95??? maybe for 40

[@Skozerny]

Nope, you will not have a sustainable business if you sell these for 40 bucks. Phones like these are a niche product with a low demand to a point where you lose out a lot economy of scale that pushes down the prices.

[@SimonBauer7]

the previous new 3310 one does sell for 40...

[@Skozerny]

@@SimonBauer7 the 3310 is a 2g only phone with bluetooth 3 (vs 5.0) and micro usb charging, 16MB of ram vs 64 and 16MB of internal storage vs 128, and $40 is the discount price as its an outgoing model. Regular price was $60. HMD also has the Nokia 105, 105 4g and 130, which are the barebones model costing $30-$40 as well.

[@Skozerny]

The 3210 is an extremely niche nostalgia "high tier but not a smartphone" tier of phone, which is a very, very small market

[@bumpsy]

@@Skozerny where exactly is this high tier? These kinds of phones STILL are available for a lot less and have been for over a decade. And they never cared about any niche. This is just trying to bank on the nokia nostalgia

[@BrianHartman]

I think Linus might be being a bit hard on the phone. It's pretty clear that it's just meant for calls and texting. (And hell, it sounds like it's just *barely* meant for texting.) This is the kind of dumbphone you'd buy if you were on an electronics detox. I could see giving this to a child of school age, or someone who wanted a phone *just* for phone calls. If you're thinking "I could get a used iPhone for the same price" then you're probably not the target market.

[@HolloMatlala1]

0:12😂😂😂😂 Dumbphones done right

[@SolarCookingGermany]

I liked the original 3210 very much in 1999 (I believe). Very compact and stylish design back then, no stpd antenna.

[@krismueller]

I love the meme of this is how parents will ground their kids. I'm curious: If you all had to build this phone, what would you put in it? A better camera is an obvious one.

[@JaenEngineering]

WiFi hotspot capability.

[@Show_My_Name_Not_My_Handle]

A good real-time navigation program. Literally the only thing keeping me on a more bloated cell device is maps.

[@simonupton-millard]

I would remove the camera, 2mp is useless and I have worked in a lot of places where you can not use a phone with a camera, I would also get rid of FB 😂 would probably add streaming music apps and a Web Radio app upgrade the FM chip quality and call it a day

[@CathrineMacNiel]

why a better camera? just get yourself an actual camera.

[@warmoaran3]

no need for a better camera on a phone. if you want better pics, use a camera.

[@Ametisti]

I actually can use that charger. I might even have one lying about somewhere. My bedside charger is a Nokia one, but not a fixed cable one. Came with my 7.1 even though I replaced that a couple years ago.

[@flyingbot11]

Honestly, do better than this. Nokia is far from a zombie brand as others have pointed out. It is capable of 4G yet you didn't even test it. How can I know what 4G functions it supports? What is the browsing experience like? What sort of speeds are you looking at? You have a damn LAB, but what can I expect from the fucking battery??? This review is mostly about the pre-installed games (I get the nostalgia factor but its a review!!!) and useless features (is the radio really a selling point of this phone). The review seemed negatively biased from the start. "Is there even pred. 9T?" Constant use of "trash". Failure to use the radio correctly at the beginning. I was not really informed that well about this as a backup phone nor how well it functions for kids.

[@toploaded2078]

I love LTT overall, yet this is a fair criticism of this video on a product that might have a valid use case for a decent price. I'm glad they covered it at least so I'm aware of it and can dig in a little further.

[@Lonewolf_121]

Nokia mobile is 100% a zombie company, it's dead and they are just licencing it off to another company. Just because other parts of the company still operate doesn't change that. Also it's a short circuit video, if you want to know more about the fucking battery, read the disctiption on their website. It's a cheat crappy phone with a alightly inflated price cos of the Nokia name and it will do everything you expect, there's literally zero point in putting effort into doing a huge analysis on it. It's worth 7 odd minutes of chatting about, which is what this channel is for

[@GooniesNeverSayDie1980]

My OCD loves the messaging app, your message is composed in the actual sms/mms bubble. I loved that feature in Windows OS smartphones also. Sucked Android OS didn't have that feature.

[@alumlovescake]

6:33 The piece of crap game I made on Construct for college had music that looped better then that.

[@insainllama]

The KaiOS Nokia feature phones are the ones to get. They offer a few modern creature comforts like basic Google apps and voice to text.

[@noswear2346]

bro gets mad at game music on a phone that has the storage of 2 mid range photos well no shit its gonna be a shitty midi track lol

[@chaos.corner]

I've heard better music on systems where the storage was measured in K.

[@greatcanadianmoose3965]

Hey I'm so shocked I didn't see this until now. I used a Nokia 3310 (2018) from 2019 to 2023 (when I accidently broke it in Winnipeg). It's actually almost identical to this phone. What I would say from daily driving it for 4 years: - It is as tough as it sounds, I litterally threw it off the roof of a 2 story building, however with enough abuse, the back plate with warp and the clips won't work if you fidget with it a lot. Also after 4 years, the battery did start to bloat a little bit, however it's super easy to replace. - The OS is actually relatively polished compared to other dumb phones, which is a weird quality of life feature. - There are a lot of undocumented OS changes, and undocumented hardware changes, so be VERY careful with buying one. The 3310 that I bought, has a 2G, 3G, and 4G version, each with a slightly different OS. This means that there was no unlock code to factory reset it when I forgot my password (the true death of my phone, long story). and the video player was very fussy on my version of the OS. - In terms of hardware differences, I think the 4G model offered dual SIM, and wifi, but pretty bad battery of only 14 days of standby, the 3G model (mine) had 21ish days of standby, which I can confirm. While allegedly the 2G model had a 27 day standby battery. All in all, it was a very good phone for what I wanted: for it to be cheap, always have battery, and be strong enough to survive hard impacts from a bike crash, fall off a cliff, or any other list of possibilities. I have a flip phone now and it's not nearly as good. Hope this is interesting to someone, let me know if anyone wants more details!

[@bentong8]

If this can run LTE hotspot it would be the perfect burner phone.

[@gazsoimi]

Sadly it has no wifi

[@valiant719]

You show some damn RESPECT to that UK Plug!

[@samiraperi467]

Proprietary charging brick? The old Nokia phones used the Nokia standard, they weren't proprietary! :D *All of them* used one of two barrel plug sizes, and you could just use simple adapter to go from big to smol. That meant that if you used mainly Nokias you'd end up with a pile of compatible chargers (I once yeeted half a dozen).

[@Lonewolf_121]

I can't tell if you're joint or not... 😂

[@standardtuning4guitars423]

if youre a teenage virgin that is obsessed with wifi then i understand the reaction. I like the minimalist approach. For me the only drawback is the lack of messenger for facebook and ebay. If it powers on quickly thats a huge advantage as you can check the time, make a call or take a photo super quickly.

[@Eli-zb2yj]

Finally, a smartphone that linus can drop from outer space

[@tanichiro]

got a Nokia 215 2024.. ngl it's such a nugget but i love it, i get about 1 week of battery with regular use and 2 weeks with almost no use, perfect polar opposite to my Zfold6 lol

[@Arturro671]

I had a very good fish tank filter in the early 2000s. It was one of the best. Now if you were like ,,hey, let's bring it back! Here it is for 95$!" Nope. Some things are relicts and they should stay like that.

[@nereus246]

I have the remade Nokia 3310 (2017) it’s my second phone. I use it mainly on the weekends and also for work. Only when I’m on a trip or something do I use my iPhone. It really is a very light and perfect for working out and it also gives me the chance to not distract myself during the day.

[@benjaelee]

ill come by and edit this when i think of something original

[@donotworried]

Come back

[@orlagh277]

So you're never coming back, i'll miss you.

[@benjaelee]

@@orlagh277 still thinking, a good comment takes a couple years to think of tbh

[@KevwePatani]

Investing at 7likes

[@Ultra-Widescreen-Gaming]

0:40 - At this point I wish, there is a no camera version of it. In my hometown there is a well known and very big company which disallowed all kinds of cameras.

[@ReepsWasteOfTime]

Do you have to get iPhones with no camera and such?

[@bumpsy]

$ 95 is atrocious for this

[@peterdevreter]

That's not even one week of groceries or a full tank of gas. 95 bucks is small change these days

[@bumpsy]

@@peterdevreter like he said in the video, you can get a decent (if used) smartphone for similar money. No way this thing is worth nearly as much. My first cellphone back in 2011 was 20 bucks and had a similar feature-set

[@GeneralNickles]

If they made an updated version of the Nokia 5130 with support for the changable faceplates, I would swap to it as a daily driver in a heartbeat.

[@JakeDelanois]

I once saw the Nokia 3210 as the ultimate device during my teenage years. It's fascinating to see how much our expectations and standards for gadgets have changed over time.

[@Webcomentarista_Aditivo]

Not having WiFi sucks. But there are plenty of other feature phones that have wifi. They also have an app store that have a very reasonable amount of modern apps adapted to them.

[@paulhartman5683]

I had an older version of this. Had micro usb charging rather than usb c and the transmitter was 3G. Looks like they've upgraded it some. For what it is, it's a great phone. But you don't get anything other than talk and text. I can confirm, though, from personal experience that it is just as rugged as the one I had in the mid 2000's. It takes an awful lot to break one of these phones.

[@ajsnz]

Back in the late 90s I came off my motorcycle in the way to work. I had my Nokia 5110 in a belt holster, as was the fashion of the day, and it took all my weight on a slide down the asphalt. Half the keypad was ground off by the road but the phone still worked for receiving calls until I was able to get it replaced.

[@johnny5k]

Thank you Miss Beau (& the rest of the channel’s support people) for being so open and straightforward with this transition! There may be different faces & voices, but this channel has earned the trust of many thousands of us (anonymous) "internet people," and I hope others will continue to tune in (as I will). Much love to you & Beau, and everyone keeping this channel going!

[@Marc.Google]

Oh the NOSTALGIA! 💙

What really infuriates me is the camera. We've had dumb phones with beautiful 5-8 mp cameras. Give me a "dumb phone" with a modern 8mp camera, expendable storage, swappable battery and MP3 capability.

[@standardtuning4guitars423]

if its imitating the original phone's camera then i guess it would people some people for nostalgia reasons. But youre right some people would appreciate a simple phone that powers on quickly and can take a good photo.

[@MostlyPennyCat]

My Sony C905 was incredible: Incredible camera with zenon flash GPS and GPRS with turn by turn satnav I have the Digitally Imported app installed for music streaming over 3G Internet connection sharing over datacable or Bluetooth or Wifi Also, wifi Email, contacts, and events IMAP sync via Google. As feature phones went, it was the greatest feature phone ever made.

[@jasonmeister6988]

Well, I actually got one of those and will use it when I'm on holiday. Smartphone-free holidays are the best, trust me.

[@SprattyD]

I think one huge thing people keep overlooking is tactile response! Since smartphones are all about swiping and tapping there are a portion of people usually some with a disability but mainly older generations who still can't comprehend the delicate nature touch screens need. My father in law is one of these people, he had a very hard manual labour job so his hands are that kind of hard and he struggles badly with the gentle taps and swiping, but if given physical buttons he would be fine. He really needs a phone, he has an old s4 but refuses to use it and I think because even that phone is too over featured and he struggles with the touch screen! Something like this would be perfect for him.

[@merkel_user]

I don't know why I'm watching this as a 2000 kid. I hope someone enjoys this unboxing. XD

[@PAPO1990]

going out one side and back in the other is not new for Snake. The original version didn't have it, but a few years later there were old Nokia phones that shipped with "Snake 2" that had that

[@j7a1k1e]

Wish it had some support for certain android applications. I could see that as a useful device for work if i could put an authenticator app on it and load chat apps on it. Especially with the dual sim, having support for 2 different mobile networks is such a nice luxury.

[@MostlyPennyCat]

Not only did my beloved Sony camera phones need a proprietary charging connector, if it went flat you couldn't recharge it with a USB to Sony cable, only the real charger could restart a completely flat phone. You had to remember to plug it in before then to charge it over USB 😆

[@chrisspain]

I have a 8110 from HMD and did not like the tiny buttons, got the 3210 and have a very different experience. It does have wifi, actually that's why I got it, because it can put up a 4G wifi hot spot for my MBA and iPad. Easy 90Mbits down and 50Mbits up. For the 60 Euros I paid a good value. And you get an emergency phone for free. I got whatsapp to work and several other little things, very happy