'THIS WAS NEEDED' 😳 - Dan Orlovsky on the Bills FIRING OC Ken Dorsey | NFL Live

Dan Graziano, Dan Orlovsky, Marcus Spears and Andrew Hawkins join Laura Rutledge on NFL Live to react to the news that the Buffalo Bills have fired offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey and their poor offensive performance this season.
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[@Marcus_shawn]

Easy scapegoat...dorsey didn't put 12 men on the field, Dorsey isn't out there turning the ball over, Dorsey isn't making bad clock management decisions

[@evancahoon2937]

Dorsey needed to go regardless

[@k29king1]

Its more than just last nights game. Since he has been OC Josh Allen has regressed, which came to a boiling point last night. With Daboll Allen threw interceptions but they were not as many and they weren’t as back breaking as they are now. And they aren’t getting rid if Allen, so Dorsey has to go. Its sad, but thats the NFL for ya, gotta have a thick skin.

[@scruffd0g193]

Allen has always been a turnover machine.

[@ryangifford9505]

You can’t really think the play calling hasn’t been horrible , the players have been off but the play calling has been bad since Daboll

[@vincentbernal635]

Dorsey didn’t stay consistent with the run game. Dorsey didn’t call for a qb sneak or run on 4th and 2.

[@answeris4217]

I watched the game last night. The Defence knew what the Bills was going to do before they did it. They were jumping plays before Josh even looked at the reciever. Is that on the players...no. it's on coaching.

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

Josh Allen only throws the ball to one person majority of the time

[@justinharper6909]

@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Not even true. You might wanna look up what majority means.

[@truetalk4993]

Wrong not Dorsey’s fault they want to use him as the scapegoat so you forget the real reasons why the team is struggling

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

@@justinharper6909 You do realize he has 11 ints on the season leading the league again

[@mikegreen4675]

@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m He is also leading the league in total TDs. Cant look at one stat without looking at all of them.

[@FriENTlyFire]

Dan is the only person outside of specific buffalo films study circles on the right track with this

[@brambo5670]

Josh Allen getting people fired…

[@5ilasTheViru5]

Ken Dorsey not deserving the job, and then proving he didn't deserve the job, got him fired. DIPSHIT.

[@arika6082]

When a team has only 2 looks on offence and really only 2 or 3 plays from those looks. Teams will figure it out by week 4 and plan for it. That's why the Bills have been always so explosive at the start of the season and then lack luster as the season goes on.

[@KWilP]

McDermot, needs to be held accountable..clock management and player personnel responsibility are things the head coach needs to monitor. Maybe if McDermot wasn’t so consumed with calling the Defense, then maybe he would manage the team a little better

[@giancarlosimpson4196]

If only someone else ran the defense...

[@answeris4217]

I think some of the problem is that McDermott is playing DC and not HC. He is over extended and that is hard.

[@TheBatugan77]

So he's directly responsible for the defense not counting to 11 or 12.

[@mikegreen4675]

@@TheBatugan77 Except it was the special teams and not the defense having 12 men on the field. That is also the ST coach fault as well as HC McD

[@answeris4217]

@@mikegreen4675 He is the head coach... meaning he is responsible for all coaching

[@mikegreen4675]

@@answeris4217 Or as a leader you delegate responsibilities to others which any good leader does. Should he get a really good DC for next year to focus solely on HC, yeah I do.

[@xq8152]

The Bills trust Josh Allwn too much. They dont run the ball!!!! Thry just let him throw every down.

[@thesportsfanatic2106]

They had 200 rushing yards….

[@xq8152]

@@thesportsfanatic2106 192. 42 on a fluke play. Should have been 250 or more.

[@sirhoopalot1125]

They ran the ball last night 😂

[@Thunderbolt210]

Josh Allen is Brett Farve you better learn to deal with it. He’s not going to stop throwing INTs best to just accept that

[@itoo3654]

Brett has a Superbowl and a MVP. Josh doesn't.

[@jamessanders145]

You're absolutely right, Kermit throws almost as many picks though but no one is restricting his style of play to force down the turnovers. They're limiting everything that makes him great just for one stat and all it causes is for everything to go off the rails and we can't put points on the board.

[@zayt901]

Allen always made bad decisions with the ball no matter if the right play was drew up, or not. This was not on the OC, it was all about Allen

[@HelptheBroncos]

Wtf ???.....Joshy is the one throwing the ball and making hand offs. Let's fire the guy not on the field ?

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

@@j.pslaym0666And still leads the league ints again

[@HelptheBroncos]

@j.pslaym0666 ... he's very good. He's playing I'm not......but man them throws into coverage is boggling

[@ricblic901]

I'm a Bills fan, I've been saying for weeks there's a problem between Allen and Dorsey. After a series no communication between Allen and Dorsey. Allen just sits down and waits for his turn again. He's wearing the gold C. Maybe this is what Diggs was pissed about.

[@answeris4217]

I don't know if Diggs was angry at all. I think he was trying to spark up people and wake them up. As for Dorsey...I think he just isn't cut out to call plays

[@mistaenvghettoface6064]

I agree but I’ll use a family analogy why are you telling the parent to leave when the kid lost his lunch money not the parent even though the parent is held responsible the kid has to be held culpable as well like Swagu is referencing. Diggs is a good player just not good enough to carry “the offense” with the qb given it up 1 every 10 throws and he throws it 30 times that math not mathing and if wr1 do feel some type of way I’m sure the other players do too

[@ricblic901]

@@mistaenvghettoface6064 I don't know about Diggs and Allen. They have chemistry when their on their as deadly as any duo, Burrows Chase Tua Hill they give DC's fits.

[@mistaenvghettoface6064]

@@ricblic901 they got 7 games to figure it out cause that regime is lame duck fasho Dorsey just was the first to go dabol left before the kitchen went up in flames now they all gone be unemployed except for the players 😂

[@ricblic901]

@@mistaenvghettoface6064 Do you know how many top OC's are gonna know how to fix Josh Allen.

[@dannysmith716]

You can't ask an opiate zombied QB1 to perform at a high level. They need to stop medicating his shoulder and let him heal. Josh needs a physical and mental rest.

[@rodolforodriguez7058]

What would happens if Allen keeps throwing interceptions? Accountability! Allen needs to man up and take full responsibility!

[@Thewittdog19]

Hey Marcus Spears turnovers are not created equally. Dude has always hated on Josh Allen

[@LinusStormcrowe]

Even with all the issues the Bills have, they have yet to be beaten by a TD all year long that's crazy all losses are 6 points or less. Every game they lost were all winnable games. They could easily be 8-2 right now. Ken Dorsey had to go, easily the best move the Bills did all year long.

[@James.Hill.]

They would be winning a lot more games if Allen wasn't playing hero ball literally every play

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

Josh Allen literally has an int in 6 straight games, but it’s the OC fault?

[@yoursodumn]

​@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mJosh Allen has 3 more ints than Mahomes and Hurts while playing one more game. Are you going to whine about their turnovers too? Oh no, just Allen, because we have to perpetuate this weird narrative that he's some careless, trash QB

[@justinharper6909]

@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Josh Allen is also the reason the Bills are the only team with SF to be top10 in pts/drive, scoring%, 3rd down offense, scoring offense and RZ offense.

[@truetalk4993]

Not Dorsey’s fault you clearly don’t get why the bills are losing smh

[@giancarlosimpson4196]

I agree with Dan, Allen seems bored when he plays efficient football games. He looks like he wants a highlight play when he can be so good if he just plays smarter.

[@thebops4180]

Dan should become the next Bills OC :)

[@85korey]

Let’s pump the brakes on Allen throwing so many picks right now. His total for the year is 11. Do you guys talk about mahomes ints??? Cause he’s at 8. Hurts is at 8. Let me remind you Josh Allen has 26 total tds. 19 passing and 7 rushing. 2,600 yds passing and 246 rushing. I get that the Buffalo Bills are must watch tv and Allen is under a microscope but common man. He will do whatever it takes to win. This firing by Buffalo Bills will spark the rest of the season. I trust the process

[@kentcarmack5879]

If dorsey didn't trust allen why not run the ball. No player in the nfl is asked to do more for his team. He makes way to many mistakes but the bills ask him to do way to much with limited play makers. He's got diggs and now Kincaid thats pretty much it.

[@21nitsua]

This is exactly why I live in Wisconsin and hate the packers. It's never the qbs fault we lost the game even though there's always a game losing turnover.

[@zackadamec9332]

You don't have to "coach around that" and there's no trust issues with Josh Allen, Josh Allens thrown the ball over the field and put 40+ total touchdowns for the last three straight years, Josh Allen is broken mentally currently, they tried to harness the dude to prevent injuries and it's defeated him and broke him mentally. It's nothing to do with trust. Marcus spears is a clown.

[@brucelau2023]

honestly tho even tho he needed to go, he wasn't even the person to blame, Dorsey didn't put 12 men on the field, Dorsey isn't out there turning the ball over, Dorsey isn't making bad clock management decisions

[@Endzoneproductions17]

Yeah but he should’ve been fired before today

[@peedogg02]

Josh needs a Matt Barkley type of guy on the sideline to keep him cool

[@orphy6869]

Mahomes has 8 INT’s to Allen’s 11 with 1 less game played….at what point are we going to talk about Mahomes being a turnover machine???

[@jeepersbeating4550]

He still making the plays to win the game 🤷‍♂️ like converting a 3&20 with his legs 🤷‍♂️ 😂 mahomes one bad year in interceptions while Allen been in this category since he started 🤷‍♂️ mahomes is having a bad year yeaa but he still making the small plays that win games 🤷‍♂️ Lamar n Allen stay turning the ball over in the 4th 🤷‍♂️ but you don’t know…you think you know football but you don’t 🤷‍♂️

[@Kerry-G]

He’s the media’s darling so they just ignore that

[@RevRichard3rdJD]

They tried this b.s. last season...forcing runs...they bet on Dorsey...went out and got the players to actually run the ball...but when they were 7-5 looking tragic...they were like, just let josh throw caution to the wind, they won out and bang...we are right back here midseason...Dorsey's mistake is trying to make the offense HIS... instead of Daboll letting the players create the offense themselves...good coaches fit the scheme to the players not players to the scheme...period...

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

So it’s Dorsey fault that Josh Allen has 94 turnovers since he’s been in the league

[@FTNS743]

Maybe Jalen Ramsey was right along back when he said about Josh Allen during the 2018 season that HE'S TRASH at GQ. 😆😂🤣 Josh Allen is playing like TRASH right now.

[@sirhoopalot1125]

No lies

[@ReaperFH]

Leads the league in TD’s and only has 1 more interception then Mahomes and Hurts, think the narrative is blown out of proportion. Just bc of the record

[@smithcarson44]

Marcus doesn't like josh Allen. Just admit it bro.

[@walidhannaoui1802]

Head coach problem not an offensive coordinator problem

[@Dr_1212]

JA is not the same

[@bennycoinz6924]

I see them at practice, nothing but joking around, not taking anything serious

[@philreed3317]

Its not the OC to blame, its their offense players. They won’t improve that much with a new OC…

[@avadimitri8003]

So happy about this. Thank God!

[@user-uw3kp2uh2n]

Dan is such a great analyst man, really defends players and explains situations pretty clearly. Could listen to him talk football anytime

[@Sports-xt6hk]

Dorsey’s offense made things harder and led to more turnovers

[@Marcus_shawn]

So Dorsey be throwing the ball in triple coverage?

[@GodfreyTheCreator]

I guess Daboll did too, seeing how Josh Allen has had double digit turnovers every year since he has been in the league. Use google before commenting. It's free

[@thesportsfanatic2106]

Excuses.

[@quintidwell99]

That same offense was top 3 last season

[@retrocny5625]

Hasn't Allen's interceptions actually gone down year after year? Right now he's still at a low point for his career, but it's only week 11 coming up here so that may change. I think the thing is... He may have thrown more interceptions in the past, the difference now is it **feels** like he isn't progressing in terms of limiting them and when he does throw a pick, it's always at a really inopportune time. On drives where they're moving the ball, maybe on a 2nd and 7 versus on a 3rd and long, trying to make something happen to get the conversion. Interceptions that are just straight up forced and didn't need to happen. The out route pick he threw last night, I mean that was just a horrible read. It was a deep out, the corner had outside leverage on that route, it was a cross body throw I think, and he had safety help over the top. And on top of that, he threw a bad ball to the inside versus leading his receiver out to the boundary, like you typically do for an out route. That way if it is picked, it's out of bounds and you keep it moving. Bad read, bad throw, dumb decision. The gabe davis one, I don't fault him as much because Davis dropped it and tipped it to a defender. But then he went and fumbled the ball on a handoff. Like bro, you've been playing football all your life. How many thousands of reps has he had doing handoffs to a running back after the snap, whether it's a run or play action. No excuse for a pro QB that's had a few years in the league now. You're not a rookie anymore. Josh Allen is post-green bay Brett Favre, without the mvps and without the ring. He's a gunslinger playing russian roulette.

[@T.R.75]

it wasnt Dorsey. at some point the friggen players have to do the basics consistently. block, run the right routes, hold onto the friggen ball, catch the friggen ball. none of that is happening. offense was fantastic last year until Josh got his UCL injury. offense was going great this season until Josh got his shoulder injury, which is still bothering him. its no coincidence that the injuries coincide with the offense taking a dump.

[@johnbrown8504]

When Dorsey found out he was fired, I wonder if he stood up and repeatedly slammed his laptop against the table?🤔

[@T.R.75]

nah, he was probably happy to get away from this tire fire. Allen is mentally broken. something bigger going on behind the scenes.

[@HarvardArchaeology]

Right before christmas and Thanksgiving here in cold buffalo. They do that. Terrible,no.

[@GoodNews-px2im]

I mean, they all have good points to an extent

[@david8639]

I know let the guy who's coaching Allen to be the OC. They were up shits creek i think niw they kost the paddle

[@theodoreslater4749]

If he didn’t trust Josh he would of ran the ball more and ran play action. Cmon man!

[@jdtalks8023]

What veteran do they have?? Cam Newton would have been a perfect backup there .

[@r.b0705]

Maybe he would still have his job if james cook got some more touches earlier

[@truetalk4993]

Like when cook fumbled? Got it. Exactly talk about earlier? First play cook fumbled doesn’t get any earlier than that! not Dorsey’s fault that cook and Allen are turnover machines.

[@wardach]

​@@truetalk4993dumb. First fumble all year. But he hasn't been getting carries all year despite basically 5ypc

[@truetalk4993]

@@wardach No your dumb. He fumbled twice he had to recover his fumbles. Obviously your not bright to understand what I meant. The point was not to give cook the ball he should get the ball I directly replied to the statement with facts to the originator of the post that he did get ball early on first play the game and fumbled. The irony both of you got cooked trying to defend cook pun intended lol

[@James.Hill.]

Feels like the Bills are going to completely clean house. New head coach, GM, and trading Diggs for picks

[@stephen7701]

if they gonna trade diggs in the offseason, they better target him 10 times a gain to raise his value.

[@James.Hill.]

@@stephen7701 Diggs should be getting 10ish targets a game as is

[@jellincadenza7540]

They simply can’t trade Diggs with how his contract is constructed.

[@James.Hill.]

@@jellincadenza7540 Diggs can just force his way out too

[@kohlmcmullen]

Josh has always and will always turn the ball over. He's a gunslinger. The problem is because of Ken Dorsey changing the offense and forcing Josh Allen to become a dink and dunk quarterback, the big plays that usually come with those turnovers have disappeared. They have to build this offense around what Allen does well, instead forcing him to try to be something he is not. That is why it didnt work with Dorsey.

[@nikrich3729]

So...When Allen dinks and dunks he turns over the ball and when he slinging he turns over the ball 😏

[@mattwa33186]

Everyone keeps talking about how good Allen was with Daboll. But another way to look at it is he was more consistent and created fewer turnovers with Dorsey as his position coach than he was with Brady. Who is now the OC. Maybe this is about fit on the coaching staff more than performance. But the loss of Frazier makes me think there may be politics in play, which happens with teams that under perform for extended periods - something Buffalo has to feel is happening.

[@billchriswell2925]

Dans on the $$ Marcus doesn't know anything about the Bills...Daboll had him managed...Dorsey should never have gotten the job.

[@Lettemhearpodcast]

I don't see how trusting the QB would be the problem.. After the Jets game the 3 games won after that Josh under center and the run game the Bils were playing phenomenal. Then we go against Jags and Ken Dorsey went back to these ridiculous shot gun games abandoning the run game again. Buffalo offense has a problem with not utilizing the running game constantly. Does Josh Allen have a problem? for sure and he has me pretty upset lol but again Dorsey is not creative and he does not play on the weakness of the opponents defense.

[@xkmmx2132]

I agree with Dan on why Josh pushes when he is asked to play slow and check down or throw quick outs. But it’s his job to get the ball to an open guy unless he absolutely has to force something because of the situation. Which is hardly ever. Josh is a type of dude that has to be held back however situationally. He’s regressed big time in decision making and situational awareness being what he uses to base those decisions on.

[@mario98730]

But as we’ve seen in the past, Josh CAN play the slow check down game, but you have to give him some big shots down the field. Because we all know most of the time in modern football, if you’re not getting explosive passing plays, you’re gonna lose. We’ve see Mahomes and Herbert go through this too. It’s hard for them to get into a rhythm when the playcalling is predictable and isn’t working. If Dorsey did that bc of turnover concerns is valid sure, but that’s why you have to get creative in letting your Superman be Superman

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

@@mario98730Dude you can run the football to set up play action

[@andrew-ib1pk]

Hilarious Matt eberflus still has a job along with Luke getsy after this 😂

[@isaiahrogers8369]

Let’s keep it real Josh Allen is a two read QB. He relies mostly on his athleticism. The same Criticism that is giving to most athletic black QBs. I love Josh Allen, he is one of my favorite QBs but when it comes to Lamar, hurts they would get a bad backlash.

[@itoo3654]

They DO NOW get the backlash.

[@isaiahrogers8369]

@gr5382 yes, Josh is being criticized for his turnovers, but he can’t read defenses, he should of changed the play. If he were black the media would of criticized him badly for the terrible decision, it was a basic read

[@itoo3654]

@gr5382 There's no such thing as a "race card"! One's race cannot be dealt. That ignorant, cynical phrase is used by racists to TRY to defect from instances of their RACISM. That deflection doesn't work on ME. As stated, the double standard and moving goalposts, regarding African American QBs has its' roots in RACISM. You will deal with it.

[@armandomacias8403]

Dan is more delusional than us cowboys fans

[@michaelandrew8493]

Funny i didnt know dorsey was missing wide open receivers and turning the ball over multiple times every game.

[@rambam77]

I was calling it pre-snap - run, pass, pass - too predictable

[@Pursue.Happiness]

They need to scheme Cook he is explosive with the ball and chunks yardage give him Texas routes, play action and jet sweeps to get him in space

[@AlexTorres-fo5eo]

who said on they day off? 😂😂😂

[@bauerpower83]

Hey producers tell dan to come coach our team. We need him in buffalo. Come on dan!

[@mistaenvghettoface6064]

Imma say this mr 14 blew up the vikes in this same manner now I know a coach got axed but the team traded resources to get buddy so the team itself is reflecting of its choices to get better at the moment that’s all they can band together and play with nothing to lose down the stretch they could sneak in the playoffs in their division Miami not running away with it just yet so there’s hope be thankful you not a lions fan like me for a lifetime 😂

[@dannysmith716]

JA17 is part of the problem too

[@Schlierfy1]

Sad to see Dorsey go but, it wasn't working, turnovers or not.

[@xq8152]

They didn't develop a run game.

[@boualarich]

🎯

[@corey1106]

Buffalo had 4 turnovers and diggs had 3 catches, easy to see why they are struggling

[@billsfanatic7288]

Allen has less turnovers than lamar😂 and he’s tied w Stroud for 7th best in interceptable pass percentage. Stats show the turnovers aren’t losing them games and aren’t all on allen

[@steveoshei1819]

Marcus loves that Allen's struggling. His takes are basic.Very little insight.

[@snowthapro816]

When did a coordinator turnover the ball multiple times per game? Always excuses for Posh Allen and Hoe Burrow...

[@armandomacias8403]

Josh Allen has the halo effect. everything he does is considered heroic good or bad

[@Zungentruppen]

Blame deflection

[@yengvang1368]

Bills super bowl close, Diggs need to go to a new team to reach super bowl.

[@drg8687]

Allen is just a lesser version of Farve.

[@BeanieMan95]

Took long enough in my eyes I been wanted him gone

[@jaygunna3503]

The offense sucked... simple as that ...not the same since daboll left and they have better players

[@BSmokeyGaming]

To The Miami Hurricanes football team, y’all know what to do. Bring in Ken Dorsey as a QB coach/Assistant Coach cause Mario Cristobal has no clue what he’s doing.

[@leratosword6594]

So in summary, Josh Allen has regressed and that cost Ken Dorsey his job. It’s crazy how QB play can cost coordinators their positions a la Dak Prescott/Kellen Moore and Russell Wilson/Nathaniel Hackett.

[@ComedianMoeBrown]

Mafia Bills win the superbowl

[@danielpenaful]

In your dreams bro

[@giffondhall9214]

Dorsey is the problem it's the QB

[@barrybondshomerunking6778]

McDermott getting canned after the season

[@podawe8051]

Dan is exactly right

[@Cristobal9414]

So it’s never Josh Allen’s fault too? He makes some terrible decisions sometimes

[@phansone85]

It’s Allen’s and the wides faults… lames.

[@paulcaruana4090]

He also has the MOST COMBINED TOUCHDOWNS! WTF! Look @ his Total QBR. You can't hide Total QBR. If he was so bad, how would his Total QBR would be bad. Everyone enamored with CJ Stroud this week. He has best TD to INT ratio in NFL (15-2). YET he is TEN points in Total QBR lower than Allen. Allen threw 1 horrible pick against Denver. He mishandled a handoff. Guilty. But he also took team down field @ end of game till 2mins left. D didn't prevent Denver from scoring FG @ end of games

[@nelobreeze5425]

Wouldn't have even been in that position if Allen takes care of the ball. 🤷🏿‍♂️ Better start puttin some blame on ya boi. He's the reason yall are 5-5

[@Mbowman223]

He has the most this an that but ISNT WINNING GAMES🤦‍♂️🤣🤡

[@Mbowman223]

@nelobreeze5425 they will never blame their so called GOLDEN BOY! They are DELUSIONAL an will blame everyone else but the real problem! Even the players on the team played HIM! (DIGGS)

[@olinj.damiani4659]

I have to agree with Orlovsky. Bills play calling was wayyy too predictable. Of course the opposing defense is gonna jump routes and cause turn overs!! Dorset was not keeping opposing defenses on their toes... at all. And you could tell Allen was getting more & more discouraged with the schemes his OC kept laying out there.

[@yoursodumn]

Wasn't really a mystery. A few players have already said they knew what was called immediately and where to be, as far back as Patrick Peterson last year with the Vikings on his OT interception.

[@bossp6624]

Now when the Steelers fans were calling for Matt Canada to be fired, the media was talking about teams shouldn't fire coordinators this late in the season because the team has to learn a new system on the fly. But Raiders fire their HC and the Bill fire their OC now it's much needed

[@quintidwell99]

This offense was top 3 last season

[@sirhoopalot1125]

First round exit

[@Endzoneproductions17]

@@sirhoopalot1125no second lol

[@mrjj216]

Swagu 0:51 lmao

[@MrGaryo78]

Coach Sean has to go also. He blew the Chiefs game with 13 secs. He peaked yrs ago. Fire him ASAP

[@sirhoopalot1125]

Mahomes is 7-2 with the most drops in the league Foh

[@6Chainz11]

So fumbles throwing Interceptions and 12 man on the field is Ken Dorsey fault yeah ok lol Josh Allen just trash 🗑️

[@liudizzle]

#freeTylerBass

[@reaperw1532]

Sorry Dan to trust your logic about the Bills lol lmao. He wishes he played like the current NFL QBs 😅😅

[@wardach]

Marcus way off on this one

[@saint6563]

OBVIOUSLY... you can't trust Allan to protect the ball, the team nor himself. He's a 'live grenade'; good & bad.

[@jamesalton1903]

The offense looks terrible even when they don’t turn the ball over. All these clowns don’t understand the Bills offense is simple for a defense to read. That makes getting turnovers easy lol

[@truetalk4993]

With Daboll he still had more turnovers and if it’s so easy to read how is it top ten offense? Still not talking the real reasons the bills are struggling hint they are plenty of reasons.

[@jamesalton1903]

@@truetalk4993 only a top 10 offense because of Allen. No other QB could do this in the AFC east. No run game and poor blocking and always in the shotgun. It’s ridiculous. This is the best oline Josh Allen has ever had.

[@truetalk4993]

@@jamesalton1903 Because of Allen? That’s how I know your biased. How about his 96 turnovers? How about actually address point I made instead of starting a new debate. Yes Tua could of did you forget he played under the worse offensive line in football unlike Allen no running game I love josh Allen to be clear but Tua and him could do it not mac Jones nor Zach Wilson. You have diggs man that’s a huge reason without diggs Allen would not be top ten alone. But I love Allen passionate cares about winning never understood the hate on him but we have to be realistic and not make outlandish statements.

[@jamesalton1903]

@@truetalk4993 did you not hear how easy it is to prepare for the Bills offense? The defense always has the advantage. Put a lesser Qb in this situation I’d be surprised if the bills even win a single game.Buffalo hasn’t had a run game or a oline like the eagles,Dallas or SF under McDermott lol. People need to realize this.

[@truetalk4993]

@@jamesalton1903 I agree you made some solid points. Ppl do need to realize that but also they need to realize bills issues extend far greater than just OC ken Dorsey they have injuries to key players and a host of other problems. Whether ken Dorsey needed to go or not they used him as a scapegoat and they will soon find out he wasn’t the real issue just a part of it.

[@marcomcdowell8861]

Folks, turn to First Things First. You want to hear sports debate with stats, humor and solid points? Go watch them. All of these other shows are just angry dudes yelling and telling you everyone in the sportsverse sucks. Smith,Sharpe, Bayless, Sherman, Cowherd and so on, even the indie KZbin shows, all full of anger. Don't know how it happened, but Nick Wright suddenly sounds like a sane sports analyst lol. The bonus is that you won't feel enraged after watching FTF.

[@HurleysGang]

use james cook plz he is good and proved it bro benched him for half the game just because of a fumble and then he gave the team a fighting chance in the second half with many big runs moving the chains and they dont want to use him

[@sirhoopalot1125]

Allen is no longer part as the top 5 qbs

[@deangeloway8930]

Josh Allen get to be fired next

[@kengvang3062]

Josh Allen is playing HORRIBLE!!!!! He's to blame. Easy.

[@BrunoJaws]

The bottom line is Allen is a turnover jukebox the Bills need to run the ball more Cook is a legit RB who needs to touch the ball 25 times runs screens option routes out the back field.

[@rambam77]

Swagu is spot on

[@JohnWilliams-wz9vk]

Race horse offense ..with a OC...with zero creativity...