This Watch Will Change The Watch Industry

[@htschmerdtz4465]

Just one flaw: consistency. If you adjust the watch to the greatest accuracy possible, but the movement still experiences large gains and losses, the ability for the user to regulate, is of little value. This feature is only as good as the movement's baseline accuracy.

[@tzuyuhuang6368]

Yes the movement itself should be at least cosc level or even better and with silicon it will not a big deal to reach better than cosc standard.

[@PMS1950]

I've never experienced bad timekeeping with any of the three auto watches with eta 2824 and 2892-A2 based movements, which I wear regularly. They all keep time to within seconds per week and enable me to perform mundane tasks such as catching trains and being on time for choir practice. As I'm not planning a rocket launch or visit to the Palace (here in the UK) in the near future, I'm happy with this standard of precision.

[@2394098234509]

Great point. Difference between precision and accuracy

[@sandyw9357]

@@PMS1950seconds per week? How? I think someone’s telling porkies

[@jessgoren1]

Brilliant. This watch fixes a problem that doesn’t exist. The face on the back also fixes another problem; not sure what it is yet.

[@karm42yn]

Mechanical watches don't fix problems. They're eye-candy. Something to appreciate and show off. Nothing wrong with a bit of jewelry.

[@Frame-313]

They said that about quartz

[@emrahcebeci5134]

Buyers indeed pay for the watch not to fix the problem. This problem has been fixed for a very long time. Look at it as a piece of mechanical art.

[@dahak972]

I was all onboard until you told me the watch face is on the back. A watch you can fine-tune for accuracy that you have to take off to utilize seems like a glaring problem.

[@theONEwatches713]

I do agree they should have reversed the dials. The one you see while wearing still tells the time just with the display on the outer perimeter of the front facing dial.

[@dahak972]

@@theONEwatches713 yes but it’s not accurate. It’s gimmicky.

[@AlTheEngineer]

I think only the special limited editions have the dials reversed. I'm sure later versions will have the dial facing the right way.

[@markn3586]

The pricing is a bit off putting as far as I'm concerned. Pre-order for $4400 or pay over $8k later?

[@jasonm.8749]

Needs to be paid in full and not going to be delivered for over 2 years. Payment only refundable up to 2 weeks after paying the full amount. Also there's a clause stating that if the Microreg project fails they will deliver the exact same watch minus the the Microreg tech included. Easy pass!

[@sandyw9357]

That’s how most startups work. I mean, it’s not exactly breaking the bank! 😂 it’s the price that can be paid for the chance of being one of the first to have such a new technology that may be employed in future watches. Kind of like having the first iPhone, it was revolutionary at the time but not cisting an arm and a leg. I’m sure they will smash the quota

[@mercuriall2810]

The regulator is for fine adjustment of the rate of the watch by changing the effective length of the hairspring. Assuming the watch left the factory well regulated, the need to change the rate like this would only arise via conditions that should really be addressed by servicing the watch. If a well regulated watch suddenly (or gradually) starts gaining or losing time, the root cause should be found and addressed, as opposed to hiding the problem by moving the regulator. If this is intended for end users to improve timekeeping beyond how it left the factory, the end user is paying extra $$$ for this technology to do the regulation that should’ve been done for them at the factory already, especially for a watch in this price bracket. The watch could be regulated properly at the factory in the first place. It is a very clever idea, but for the reasons described above, it has very little use in practice. If a watch that previously kept good time needs the regulator arm moved, it needs a watchmaker anyway.

[@andifelsl]

There is internal cost and there is especially external cost when the watch has been shipped though ex factory good, but out of a sudden not good anymore at the wrist. Lots of things can happen with watches in transit… vibrations during flight seem to have a lot of influence especially when a package sits in the wrong place. Also setting around at a retailers place afterwards. Even if the watch is considered brand new and ex factory it can deviate significantly from what the consumer expects caused by strange factors. And this is where the cost side comes in. So we will see if we are right and if ultimately this technology leads to higher user friendliness and less total cost of ownership. Interesting conversation 🙏

[@Dan-Chrssy]

If there was such a high cost to shipping a watch without damaging the movement we would see that with other manufacturers. Since you guys have done market research how many competitors have a deviation of +/- 5 (a pretty standard loss/gain rate) over say a 5 or 10 year period? I would assume not many at this price point (at this price you are sharing the market with omega, Rolex, breitling, cartier, jager le culture, panerai, oris, and many many other brands). Most of these companies have pretty accurate timekeeping on their sub $10k pieces with long service intervals. This is a cool concept for a $3,000 watch but from a collection and consumer standpoint it solves a problem that most of us done have.

[@mercuriall2810]

@@andifelsl Let me start by clarifying that I’m not trying to attack or denigrate Horage watches. I haven’t handled one in person, but overall I am impressed with what I’ve read and seen online. I also appreciate any watch company who seeks to innovate in what is traditionally and tends to remain a very conservative industry. I do not see this external regulation technology as industry changing, as it does not seem to be a genuinely useful or particularly helpful feature. It’s an interesting novelty. As a watchmaker, I like to believe that there are no ‘strange factors’ at play in a well designed watch that is built from quality parts to good tolerances. If the watch is misbehaving or it’s rate changes, there is an underlying reason, a root cause, that should be found and rectified. The regulator is for fine tuning the rate of a watch once it is in excellent running order, post assembly or at the end of being serviced. It is not a bandaid to compensate for losing or gaining rates caused by rough shipping or the extended passage of time, unless the regulator itself was displaced, which is easily prevented as described below. I agree that sudden bumps or prolonged vibration in shipping could displace the regulator arm in a watch with a simple racket shaped regulator arm. If there is nothing but friction holding the regulator arm in place, then a shock can displace it and therefore alter the rate of the watch. Simple, elegant solutions to this have existed in the form of the many patent micro-regulators, seen dating back to antique pocket watches, where a screw, snail shaped cam, rack and pinion or eccentric mobile holds the regulator arm in place, often against a spring. The swan neck regulator, still common today, is one example. Another solution is of course the freesprung balance, which does away with the regulator altogether in favour of adjustable timing weights on the balance. The balance wheel of movement pictured in the video appears to have these timing weights, so unless they are just for show, it is but a small step away from being a freesprung watch, with no need for regulator pins. Given the balance wheel design and the excellent tolerances of silicon hairsprings, I’m a bit surprised that this escapement needs a regulator at all. There are other proprietary systems that provide fine adjustment of and also lock the regulator and/or stud carrier in position, such as Agenhor’s AgenPit and Muhle Glashutte’s Woodpecker regulator. The watch as pictured in this video appears to have a mobile stud carrier, used to adjust the beat error of the escapement. These are just as susceptible to unintentional displacement as a regulator arm, yet it doesn’t look like it can be adjusted without opening the watch. If a shock or impact has moved the regulator arm(the one time this new technology could be useful), the stud carrier has likely moved, too. A watch enthusiast who seeks to tweak and fine tune the rate of the watch would presumably be unhappy if their timegrapher reports a beat error over 1ms. You are right that watches can sit around in stock at a retailer. If they sit for long enough that the timekeeping has degraded, then the watch should be serviced. This degradation will take a long time with modern watch lubricants. If a watch is designed such that the regulator will not be displaced unintentionally, and it isn’t keeping good time after shipping, or simply the passage of time, then bringing the watch to time via the regulator instead of servicing the watch and fixing the root cause is bad practice and could cause unnecessary wear and tear. This technology should not be marketed as a way to extend service intervals or compensate for poor timekeeping caused by ‘strange factors’ elsewhere in the movement. Better to do away the risk of the regulator arm moving unintentionally and therefore the need to adjust the regulator arm between services by fitting a swan neck system or equivalent, or having a freesprung balance wheel. Whilst I don’t see this technology as something that will be widely implemented, or with great practical value, it is a unique, interesting and novel idea that will no doubt appeal to some buyers who wish to tinker with the regulator without opening the caseback. It serves that niche very well. It is stated that the new regulator adjustment system offers rate adjustments in 0.1s increments, but I would be interested to know how many seconds per day the full range of the externally adjusted regulator is capable of.

[@Hcube7]

@@mercuriall2810 This is very informative! Thanks for taking the time to write your expertise

[@dillreefaes]

What an amazing outcome for a beautiful watch. Always a pleasure to see amzwatch work your magic. Thanks for sharing this transformation with us!

[@LuRoat]

I like the watch I got from amzwatch. That rubber strap combo looks really cool! Been wearing it since last year and love every minute of it.

[@markgiles8527]

How they’ve displayed it is just waked. It’s such an interesting dial I wish they’d given you the option of displaying it the movement is also beautiful. 😮

[@TyreAlmasri]

I've recently began my obsession as a watch collector. And i must say- out of all the luxury brands I've been researching, for me the MAMACOO's watches are the most intriguing.

[@miker3298]

Seiko had this external screw adjust thirty years ago on their high beat chronometer grade watch.

[@micaljimenez7381]

Horage is a very impressive brand,expensive for comun customer but not so expensive if we compare with other famous brand..i like it

[@theONEwatches713]

I’ve never owned an Horage. Have you or know anyone who has? I’m curious it’s durability.

[@micaljimenez7381]

@@theONEwatches713 unfortunatlh i dont know anybody who have one,i discover the brand in you tube and looks interesting,and decent price,but if i've had the budget i will buy first other brands...

[@Dazulolwarrior]

@@theONEwatches713 I have the supersede GMT, it's a hell of watch that can withstand a lot of things, they do recommend sending it over for servicing every 6-7 years but for my case it's 4-5 years because i don't baby my watches.

[@CADAVREFILMS]

@@theONEwatches713 I do own an Horage and it is one of my favorite timepieces. Both in terms of design and it's in house movement. And I gotta add I do own so-called 'more acknowledged' brands. It easily equals or excels most of them.

[@jackmehoff9595]

@@theONEwatches713both the Tourbillon 1 and their GMT Supercede have been bulletproof accurate on a daily. Highly underrated and superb watchmaking company that gets flack from snobby trolls that assume their pricing is due to questionable quality. They will bring this project to fruition, have no doubts.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

The Tissot 2250 "Astrolon" had the external regulation in 1970, and didn't require any special electric device to do so.

[@voidifremoved]

If it was like the Reverso and 3k less cost. Maybe. Very cool idea but what about dial up, dial down, crown up, crown down etc when you normally regulate a watch? Water resistance?

[@larryscott3982]

I like it in concept. The hands on the back are a nonstarter. IMO the case should be symmetrical allowing for the watch to be worn either hands on top or movement display on top.

[@emranio]

Im confused, is the dial at tbe back side? How am i suppose to read the time?

[@theONEwatches713]

It displays the time on the front it just uses a different format with a disc that shows the time and the back dial has the traditional three hand style.

[@dinissantiago6729]

You'd have to keep adjusting the watch throughout the day. When I got my first mechanical watch, it ran surprisingly well at an AVERAGE of +8s a day, and I too measurements twice a day, 7 am and 7 pm (when I was in the bus going to and from school) and I was consistent enough to see the watch would accelerate during the say and slow down at night (very slightly). Temperature, position, motion, how much wind it has have a lot of effect on the watch. That being said the most accurate watch I own has a consistent +2s a day, and its a hamilton railroad watch from the 40's, regulated to 6 positions and temperature, if that is the baseline for that one, maybe you can have +-1 sec a day, but I bet all the other factors will mess it up (the pocket watch was only tested for a couple days, I didn't study the behaviour well enough)

[@tonymarr3746]

Technology aside, that watch looks amazing. As another commentor states, it's solving a problem no one cares about. My phone never leaves me and is more accurate. I don't have $4000 to spend on a novelty. Please consider a cheaper version with the looks, but without the novelty (Don't need high accuracy or time on back). I would push the boat out for that. Micro-rotors are highly desirable, and to have one face on in such a beautiful setting would fly off the shelf if sub $1k.

[@karm42yn]

Why not go one step further and just have two flush pushers on the watch case that can do the same? They could easily change the linear movement of the pusher to the rotational movement needed for the escapement regulator.

[@theONEwatches713]

That’s actually a really cool idea.

[@ericspeltier]

Love this solution! Very Elegant! I still think they should not have flipped the front/back.

[@sandyw9357]

Yeah I agree

[@kumasan1969]

I think Seiko's Spring Drive is superior tho.

[@aadhityan-gm3qf]

what's the price

[@JesusChrist-iz7fl]

This is gonna be expensive... honestly it's not that hard to do a basic regulation on a watch as an absolute noob...waste of money, waste of time.

[@FabioTWK]

Good luck doing 0.1 seconds adjustments to get to 0 sec precision. Plus the price is public and not expensive at all. Getting the facts before commenting is a good practice!

[@JesusChrist-iz7fl]

@FabioTWK they aren't just gonna give this sort of thing for free....and if they do start putting it in movements, it's gonna increase the price greatly...doesn't matter about facts still a garbage system and even before I started doing watchmaking I was about to get the time close enough to be viable on my watches before I got a timegrapher. Watchmaking in general is easy if you are smart enough..

[@FabioTWK]

@@JesusChrist-iz7fl yeah of course, when the highest ever rated chronography trial was between -0.4 to -0.9 seconds per day (that's the best ever recorded regulated watch in history) and a company brings out a device that can take you to 0.0, but you say that a noob can do better? Sure. And the price is publicly available, it's about 4k. Which for a swiss in-house microrotor watch isn't really expensive at all. That includes the device of course, so yes it's "free" (provided you buy the watch). Again, just look at the facts before commenting?

[@alexanderkamerbeek9693]

​@@FabioTWKdon't bother with the troll.

[@JesusChrist-iz7fl]

@FabioTWK at that point, just buy a quartz....

[@vktravellog1242]

Very interesting! Hate taking my watches for servicing because they always F up

[@JDRichard]

That is very expensive considering you can buy a apple titanium for 1200 bucks. I think having to have a piece of test equipment stuck onto the side of your watch to regulate. It is kind of interesting but also a bit of an overkill. I don’t think the watch industry will want to change what they do now to incorporate this neat way of regulating your watch. By the way, I’m a Watchmaker.

[@Andy-ys8sj]

Glad to see you are getting more eyeballs on your channel. I thought this brand was Chinese not Swiss, but maybe I'm wrong anyway congratulations on the success you are having

[@theONEwatches713]

Fingers crossed the recent spike continues. Awesome viewers like you make this experience really enjoyable.

[@Andy-ys8sj]

@@theONEwatches713 no worries my friend.. As long as you put out watch content, I'll watch it :)

[@HORAGE]

Hi Andy, HORAGE is proudly Swiss-made. Our headquarter and watchmaking atelier is located in the heart of the Swiss watch industry, Biel/Bienne. Best, your HORAGE Team

[@sandyw9357]

@@HORAGEI think you should make that more obvious in any marketing. I reckon it would be a lot more popular! Also have you patented the idea? You might be able to sell the idea to bigger compsnies and get a permanent passive income via royalties

[@modulo3664]

State of wind also affects rate. Power reserve would be useful.

[@stefanv9385]

cool idea and a nice gimmik for a small brand, but i get the feeling that watch companies won't use this system simply because then they can't charge you for adjusting anymore.

[@Dan-Chrssy]

Solving an issue that no one cares about. Service will still be needed by a watchmaker for consumables like oil so there is really no point. Also having the dial reversed onto the back of the watch just makes this even more of a dealbreaker for me. Just a gimmick

[@brotherandrew3393]

To be honest: Nobody needs this. But it is cool.

[@documentthedrama8279]

im sure the citizen calibre 0100 will need this

[@dado380]

Noob doesn’t know that technically Spring drive is also mechanical and by far the most revolutionary step in horology in last 80 years!!

[@dchoi99]

Neat idea. But the most important aspect of a mechanical movement is consistency across all watch positions. What’s the point of 0.1 second precision if orientation variability can contribute to 5 to 10 seconds per day of imprecision? I rather a watch company focus on perfecting positional variation so when I regulate it, it will keep perfect time no matter what.

[@jjwall912]

The front display seams to be marked in 5 minute increments. If time is displayed that way , what is the need to regulate the watch to the second when time isn’t displayed in 5 minute increments.

[@WatchesWithOliver]

A solution to a problem nobody has.

[@sandyw9357]

Nobody has accuracy issues with a mechanical watch? Sounds like you should repeat less of what you hear and focus on why what you said is mind boggling

[@WatchesWithOliver]

@@sandyw9357 That's not what was said. The solution the brand offered was to adjust your watch yourself on the fly. In which a very minor percentage of people who buy watches will even bother with because other people will just take it to the manufacturer or watchmaker to get it adjusted. Sounds like you need to make more knowledgeable statements.

[@JenniferJones-t8f]

I'm genuinely impressed with how close amzwatch were able to replicate every aspect of this very very goofy looking classic watch.

[@sandyw9357]

Mamacoo lol you Chinese companies really need to spend time thinking of brand names rather than throw a few letters around. If you had the best watch and a great price but “mamacoo” was written on it, you’ve lost more than half of your buyers! Lol why not pay a westerner to come up with some names that don’t sound so off putting! Agelocer, Mamacoo, oupinke, skmei, lucky harvey, ibso, binbond, poedegar, fairwhale, bestwin. It’s 2024! How do you guys make such good replicas yet fail in the marketing department lol I’d pay up to 25% more for a watch I liked that didn’t have an obviously Chinese chosen western name! Ffs even use free chatgpt to create names. Look here’s 10! 1. Seraphine 2. Marquesse 3. Ravelle 4. Valois 5. Bellmont 6. Aurelia 7. Dorchester 8. Lavelle 9. Thornecroft 10. Vermillion You’re welcome

[@AinatMorrissette]

I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. MaMaCoo brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !

[@sandyw9357]

Mamacoo lol you Chinese companies really need to spend time thinking of brand names rather than throw a few letters around. If you had the best watch and a great price but “mamacoo” was written on it, you’ve lost more than half of your buyers! Lol why not pay a westerner to come up with some names that don’t sound so off putting! Agelocer, Mamacoo, oupinke, skmei, lucky harvey, ibso, binbond, poedegar, fairwhale, bestwin. It’s 2024! How do you guys make such good replicas yet fail in the marketing department lol I’d pay up to 25% more for a watch I liked that didn’t have an obviously Chinese chosen western name! Ffs even use free chatgpt to create names. Look here’s 10! 1. Seraphine 2. Marquesse 3. Ravelle 4. Valois 5. Bellmont 6. Aurelia 7. Dorchester 8. Lavelle 9. Thornecroft 10. Vermillion You’re welcome!

[@BobbyL2k]

So you can adjust the watch frequency without opening the case back. Kinda cool. Anyway please don’t mix up precision with accuracy. If the movement deviates due to temperature, this isn’t going to fix that. Even if time deviation over the course of a month is 0 seconds. The watch will deviate from the actual time within the weeks or days either way.

[@emperorchopchop7726]

laughs in casio multiband 6

[@AlTheEngineer]

Haha, I agree, but 2 completely different pieces of technology. Its like comparing manual cars to automatic cars - plenty of people still buy manual cars for the fun of it :)

[@Dazulolwarrior]

laughing at poor

[@ashwinsubramaniyan8349]

Laughs in phone.

[@DanRC69]

​@Dazulolwarrior but, smarter. 😂😂😂

[@dlee6191]

Looks like an Accutron Spaceview! NGL the rest seems dumb

[@AlTheEngineer]

I like the concept, but I think it should be fully automatic. The little motor contraption/gizmo which adjusts the movement should have an embedded microphone and micro-controller within it to listen to the movement and automatically determine how much to adjust it (+ or -). basically, they should implement a built-in timegrapher into the adjustment gizmo. This way, a basic feedback loop is created, perhaps add a small LCD to show the deviation and the applied adjustment. This would completely remove the user from the equation - as of now, this contraption assumes the user knows how to really measure their watch's accuracy, I think, not many know how actually!

[@ats-3693]

Yeah it could just use a stabilised quartz oscillator and a microprocessor to monitor the combined beat frequency of the balance wheel and quartz oscillator and micro adjust the balance wheel to keep the beat frequency correct, but at this point it would be pretty gimmicky and may as well just be a quartz watch, although it would still be an interesting system to have in a watch, especially if the watch had some type of connectivity to a phone app and you could look at the various outputs from the microprocessor and change configs and settings etc. Very gadgety I'd like it if it wasn't horrendously expensive.

[@HRM.H]

There are already watches with built in timegraphers. (Uhrwerk electro mechanical control)

[@Myrslokstok]

It should just adjust it automaticly.

[@AlTheEngineer]

@@ats-3693 the problem with phone apps is that in few years the support dies and the product is dead. I just think a basic feedback loop is all that's required to make this fully automatic!

[@AlTheEngineer]

@@HRM.H yeah, but that's built into the watch ... and it makes the watch HUGE! Frankly, I appreciate Uhrwerk's work, but I just don't see myself wearing something that gigantic!

[@j1d7s]

The contactless micro regulation is a very cool feature and I can imagine other brands following up on that. But the execution here makes no sense, I couldn't care less about precision when only the case back shows the time in a precise way.

[@swipekonme]

just have the bezel do that no need for electronic actuators. also the watch provides feedback on its own accuracy using a solar powered quartz (not movement)

[@KM-hm3sw]

Still can’t beat Grand Seikos Spring Drive.

[@smoggo1981]

I think people are missing the point here, it's an amazing piece of new tech, which through a combination of whimsy and statement they have flipped onto the front to showcase it. Some might say it i is little more than a gimmick but innovations often are dismissed until suddenly the industry big hitters start to emulate. Omega makes a big deal about it's co-axial dual escapements, arguably gimmick. but this is a far more significant innovation IMHO.

[@YouTube_is_full_of_trolls]

I'm at the start of the video, but this sounds incredible

[@theONEwatches713]

I hope you feel the same by the end of the video 😃. It’s definitely a cool idea and unique.

[@YouTube_is_full_of_trolls]

@theONEwatches713 I love the idea. Coupled with a watch winder, it's potentially game-changing. However, I wish they would have made a traditional watch and had a display caseback. I think it would be received a lot better.

[@ge48421]

If you care about accuracy get a watch with a movement that’s designed to be accurate from the ground up, not one that shifts the responsibility to the owner. I’ll keep my spring drive watch, thank you, it gains under 1 second per week, and has the dial on the front.

[@theONEwatches713]

I get what you’re saying though you’re bringing up a quartz movement and this is an automatic. Much easier making quartz accurate.

[@ge48421]

@@theONEwatches713 This adjustment does not fix isochronism, positional variation, temperature sensitivity and whatever else causes the daily variations in behavior in mechanical movements. A good movement can be regulated to +-2 seconds per day or so. Mechanical marine chronometers are more accurate, but you can’t cram the methods they use in a wristwatch case. 0 deviation is just not going to happen on a mechanical watch. I seriously doubt that “this will change the watch industry”.

[@GentlemensWatchServices]

Regulation does not affect precision, it’s the simple final step after the watchmaker has done all the complex watchmakery stuff that does. It’s advertising fluff to describe this as any sort of revolution.

[@JustMeTalking]

Grand Seiko Spring Drive

[@yungsoupbowl4187]

It really isn’t as impressive youtubers and GS fans make it out to be.

[@legionnairegonk4425]

​@@yungsoupbowl4187No, it is.

[@JustMeTalking]

@yungsoupbowl4187 Yes it is... what you on about... even Master watchmakers can't replicate it. It's a genius level design and you don't know what you're talking about.

[@yungsoupbowl4187]

@@JustMeTalking Some crackhead watchmakers you're referring to. It's quite literally just a mechanical movement worse than Metas certified. Difference is it's quartz and magnet regulated, providing the precision everyone goes apeshit about. Their complications pieces are garbage and Spring drive itself isn't worth retail, much more agreeable used which is damn near $3K less. Plus, quite a lot of luxury brands have hi beat movements which are better, just not overhyped and over obsessed due to them not being Japanese and the marketing of "quality" amongst Japanese products.

[@JustMeTalking]

@yungsoupbowl4187 You seem angry, frustrated, single... I have METAS & COSC watches (Omega & Rolex), and my Grand Seiko is more accurate than both of them. METAS is anti-magnetic with a silicone hairspring. COSC allows you to be late. You're high, if you think Grand Seiko Spring Drive is inferior. It has its position tightly secured amongst these other Certifications-to-Order. But... you carry on saving... you might see the light when you broaden your scope.

[@vwwestfaliasyncro913]

I just don't get the comments around not being able to measure the accuracy using the wondering hours disc - I mean who times their day by a 10th a second ? This is a great, innovative solution for improving the accuracy of a mechanical watch. It's the concept & design that gets my vote (and money) - I'll probably also still use my Car display, iPhone and Laptop to get the time as everyone does nowadays...

[@Myrslokstok]

Well people into highendwatches, even tough I think they could miss with 3 seconds a day. Noy a problem but 30 pushes might fix some, I doubt the watch would stay consistant every day. And you couldn't se 1/10 sec differance anyway, maybe they mechure electronicly, even tough I doubt that would consistantly, it is a very exact mechure when the watch is still, and used by people to mechure hos good it runs!

[@code6400]

Oh, youtube find out 50 years Avia Ajustor! 😂

[@5698max]

This is so cool

[@andifelsl]

Cool to see that you picked this up. 🙏. Any questions just ask me… kind of the creator of this idea 😉

[@theONEwatches713]

Thank you so much for saying hi Andi. It’s always awesome to see companies like yours push the limits and innovate.

[@Dan-Chrssy]

Why put the dial on the back with absolutely no way to read the hour on the front? Constriction of movement? What is the service interval for this watch? Oils and parts wear out regardless of micro adjustments. Water resistance? I assume none right? How are you guys justifying a $4-5k deposit on an $8k watch? Seems a little high when you look at other micro brands.

[@jackmehoff9595]

⁠@@Dan-ChrssyThere is an outer moving chapter ring that shows time in 5 min increments through window at bottom of dial. Pre-order price is not deposit, it’s paid in full early supporter pricing. 100m water resistance. They make excellent watches and are a highly underrated brand. I own 2 of their watches and both have been spot on accurate on daily. Their sub 10mm thick GMT Supercede with micro rotor and complications is actually a bargain. If it said Vacheron or JLC on dial, it would be a $50k watch with zero trolls barking at them all the time.

[@larryscott3982]

Gimmicky yes, but it is an innovation. However the hands on the back? That’s ludicrous. Couple grand, maybe if it’s good. But, 7-8 grand? Hands on the back? Pass.

[@fatihoguz5771]

You should look blova accudron calibrator

[@RobertWill-uq3iv]

I thought Seiko's Spring Drive already did that.

[@SRADracer]

People who wear mechanical watches don’t care about accuracy. They wear it for a few hour or maybe a day and then change. They have to set it all the time, because the reserve is empty after a few days. They spend 5/10 times more than a quartz even though quartz is more accurate, cheaper to buy and maintain and will run for years.

[@lym3204]

I don't even bother winding my mechanical watch or adjusting the time anymore. It just complements my bead bracelet that I wear. I wear my watch to the side so I don't have to look at the wrong time. Everyone has a cell phone that has more accurate time than a quartz watch.

[@objvst]

I need a separate control to adjust the watch? Why can't it come from the factor adjusted? What kind of ????? is that? So I have to take off the watch to see what time it is. Soon I will never wear it or toss it into the distance beyond my eye can see or sell to another Ponzi scheme buyer who does not know any better?

[@Dartholit1]

Sweet a more consistent and accurate watch…that is have to take off to tell the time. Genius -_-.

[@theONEwatches713]

Hahaha the watch tells the time in the front also. It uses a disc that displays the time. The dial on the back is the traditional 3 hand style display as a second option.

[@chazer7800]

Imagine asking someone what time it is and they start taking their watch off, you'd look at them like they're nuts. These micro brands could seriously invest in some common sense

[@theONEwatches713]

It still tells time on the front it just doesn’t have the full three hand layout like it does on the back.

[@HORAGE]

Hi Chazer, no need to flip the watch to tell the time-there's an hour disc on the 6 o'clock position on the front side, so you can easily see the time at a glance. Best, Your HORAGE Team

[@yungsoupbowl4187]

Name alone is going to make me not buy it. Wtf is a Horage.

[@theONEwatches713]

It actually has a cool meaning. The name Horage is a combination of the Latin word hora, which means "time", "hour", or "season", and the English word "age", which can refer to the past, present, or future.

[@TheSnookerGym]

needs to be a symmetrical case, so double sided

[@maxschmidt666]

You have to make the piece 5 bucks to become useful for Seiko or ETA movements...

[@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo]

accuracy is not the point with mechanical watches

[@donzazaa]

Nobody buys an expensive automatic watch because it is precise annyway

[@bruhreallybruh]

This could make a watch even more water resistant.

[@andysantosiii1971]

Seiko Spring Drive is accurate to within +/- 5 seconds a month!

[@aljoubert8749]

Most people that love watches won't care about this. Great technology though.

[@sevenriversrummi5763]

OMG amazing super watch 😍😎

[@theONEwatches713]

It’s really interesting.

[@aesric]

"i wear a watch to regulate its time but i cant tell the damn time"

[@theONEwatches713]

Hahah that would be crazy if accurate. The front dial tells the time also.

[@eamonjun]

My problem with this is that automatic watches is for style not accuracy. Any mobile phone can out do this.

[@wzk921109]

Only if it’s cheaper than Grand Seiko.

[@keithcollier9320]

If I’m gonna spend that much, I would rather have a grand seiko quartz that regulates itself. Geez.

[@lockhandel]

Yeah I'll stick to a Spring Drive.

[@edmwftw3930]

Bulova has already done at at 100x cheaper cost. It called the Bulova Precisionist 262 khz, yes it's a high-frequency quartz, LOL.

[@14-18_Highway_MPG]

Laughs in spring drive 😂

[@SynthRockViking]

Fuck, another awesome thing I'll never own

[@Pete...NoNotThatOne]

Doesn’t Seiko Spring Drive do pretty much the same thing? Bonus; the wearer doesn’t even have to do anything at all!

[@dinissantiago6729]

yep, mechanical watch that is constantly regulated by a quartz crystal, neat stuff

[@Sozialkompetenz]

Whenever I hear innovation I skip the video.

[@auburnsenn2040]

I feel there are much better watches to fetch than busting money on a so-called movewnt...

[@idonjohnson6999]

Spring Drive 2.0

[@ashleybowman440]

What’s that on your wrist - A wonderfully accurate watch - but there’s only 5 minute increments on the face that you can hardly see through a little slit. - how do you see if it’s accurate then - well…. You take it off and turn it over and look at the hands on the back - Oh!….. What’s the point in that then.. none really - but it was really expensive.

[@theONEwatches713]

Hahaha funny, well said and quite accurate all things considered.

[@WatchWiseUS]

That is a great idea!

[@HORAGE]

We're thrilled you see the potential!

[@WatchWiseUS]

@@HORAGE I would absolutely love to do a video on this watch if at all possible?

[@Shoptcher]

Omg give up, a mechanical watch will never be as accurate as quartz. Embrace the difference, or do you want a mechanical watch that identifies as quartz, very progressive of you.

[@DownTwisted]

Interesting, but about as useful to me as a 1.4mm thick watch. I just need something that works 90% of the time 100% of the time.

[@Mr_Paw_revised]

Interesting idea. However, watch that is backwards, is for me completely pointless. Wasted opportunity.

[@FAB_GNC]

If only there was a watch that did what this one will do. 😒

[@pedazodeboludo]

I wear mechanical watches because of the nostalgia of holding traditional mechanics… this is not it.

[@INTERNETDWARF]

horage would be an interesting brand if their watches werent so ugly. frankly, accuracy us not important enough to me to wear their designs.

[@theONEwatches713]

I can understand that. I don’t place accuracy at the top of the priority list either. Cool tech though.

[@watch_addictz]

Ppl buy watch now for accuracy

[@johnnie5442]

I don't get the watch hands on the case back ... I don't care for this watch at all.. but the idea is very interesting. I was thinking, that someone should cone uo with an automatic watch that regulates itself througha quartz module or via atomic clock broadcadting system or in some other way....

[@Alex-Rainmaker]

The device is interesting, but spending more money to get accuracy out of a mechanical watch? I'll rather spend the money on a high accuracy thermo-compensated quartz that I have to worry less & make my life easier.😂

[@vooreuropa.dustegendeeu.4121]

In the 70th I had a stroboscoop on my grammaphone. Which should stand still for the right speed. After a few weeks, I was every day busy to regulate this stroboscoop to make it stand still. It was impossible, when it stand still, after half an hour I must regulate again. And so on. I forgot all the time to enjoy my music because of this damned feature on my grammaphone. Microreg? No future. The certification will stay. Microreg is to much regulation. To alternating factor in life of a watch lover. (I wish a voice speed reg on this movie. And on a lot others and real life talking to! It is to much full automatic gun talk what I hear around. Take your f`c.ing time!)

[@TomRauhe]

Brilliant technology, coupled with the stupidest execution I have ever seen. So the precision of the time is only visible on the back, whilst the time itself is displayed in the most inaccurate way imaginable while worn.

[@lpg12338]

Interesting... 🤔

[@iAPX432]

It won't be more precise than the same regulated correctly at the factory. And in fact probably less. Because each day is different, so variations happens, but if you adjust it from the previous day, variation will be worse the next, instead using a correct *AVERAGE* regulation. That's not gonna work. At $8000 get a Rolex that will be more accurate, day in and day out, for decades!

[@arnavkhanna6611]

Smart watches be like: 😂

[@boydsargeant7496]

Interesting, but…

[@sterkriger2572]

…or you can buy a $10 quartz and that becomes irrelevant. This would be revolutionary in the 1800s through the 1950s. Now is just another expensive accessory that still can’t beat a cheap quartz movement

[@svenbruder9977]

$8000!

[@walterhardinge-zt2ol]

What the heck was going through their brains to put the face on the back of the watch ? Answer ……. …. AIR !!!

[@theONEwatches713]

The watch tells the time from the front also using a different format than the traditional 3 hand style.

[@muchacho19886]

Looks like aprils fools joke :) You still need watchmaker service the watch every couple of years to clean and oil the movement so this calibration tool is just a silly gimmick.