You've Never Seen A Watch Like This - Habring2 Josef

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Peter Kotsa - Photographer

Peter Kotsa - Photographer

Күн бұрын

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@jayfra100
@jayfra100 4 ай бұрын
I could just sit there all day and watch that seconds hand hit all the markers dead on with each “tick tick tick” What a lovely and bespoke time piece. Thanks for sharing it with us Pete… 🙏
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
I spent most of my time with it doing the same, but alternating from front view and back view 😊
@flemmingsorensen5470
@flemmingsorensen5470 4 ай бұрын
Im absolutely stunned by this watch - amazing!!!
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
I have to give it back 😢😂
@flemmingsorensen5470
@flemmingsorensen5470 4 ай бұрын
Thats pure evil....☺️
@johnpoulter
@johnpoulter 4 ай бұрын
That's not a watch, it's a work of art. It's gorgeous. The view from the rear is just lovely, too👍
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@adk7962
@adk7962 4 ай бұрын
Wow. That is a beautiful watch. When a prolific watch reviewer buys a watch, you know it’s something special. You and TGV are the only two people I watch videos of watches I cannot afford. Thanks and congrats on the new purchase!
@Quatorze1516
@Quatorze1516 4 ай бұрын
Great. Great. Great. Thank you for showing this wonderful Habring.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
My pleasure
@doobeedoo2
@doobeedoo2 3 ай бұрын
Ok this is awesome. I don't often comment but I like this one.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate the feedback and comment 👍
@Spectrecontrol
@Spectrecontrol 4 ай бұрын
This exudes quality, a credit to its makers
@gordonshkurhan
@gordonshkurhan 3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your channel for highlighting uncommon watches, the German/Austrian ones in particular. I'm a huge fan of German watches and after many years of lusting after a Habring (I realize they're Austrian) I took the plunge and ordered from Define Watches the Erwin Pilot which shares the same jumping seconds with the watch you're presenting here, minus a complication. I really feel that supporting small watchmaking artisans like Habring and Dornbluth & Sohn, among others, is far better than springing for whatever big name brand everyone else is sporting.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 3 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more Gordon, thanks for sharing 👍
@juniorjohnson5961
@juniorjohnson5961 4 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see what you bought 🤔
@lukasz_zegarkowy
@lukasz_zegarkowy 4 ай бұрын
Once I saw Made in Austria - I knew it was a Habring. Great brand, great story - full respect to the brand owners
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
👍
@wisamal-hakim5531
@wisamal-hakim5531 4 ай бұрын
I have never been a fan of regulators because they’re a bit of a pain to tell the time with. But I would happily change my tune for this. It’s worth spending those few extra seconds on this lovely dial. And a dead beat seconds complication is just showing off. That’s so cool. This is the best watch you’ve reviewed since your gorgeous dornbluth
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
I’m so pleased with my Dornbluth. Always makes me smile when it’s on the wrist
@InGratitudeIam
@InGratitudeIam 4 ай бұрын
H2 makes great time pieces. This one is exceptional. Teasing your next video the way you did, that's a dirty trick, Peter. :)
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
😋 patience brother patience
@nikc1313
@nikc1313 4 ай бұрын
I love how solid the ticks are with that dead beat second hand. Much more finessed than the bounce you get with a quartz.
@KhazarAlizade
@KhazarAlizade 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful. Thank you.
@robbbbery
@robbbbery 4 ай бұрын
A watch I've never seen before, one that is fascinating and great looking, and a beautifully photographed and written review. Total grand slam!
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@rickzamora1
@rickzamora1 4 ай бұрын
Great looking watch.
@mercuriall2810
@mercuriall2810 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful watch, thank you for sharing it! The second hand ticking whole seconds dates back to the pocket watch era, and was called ‘dead seconds’ or ‘Seconde Morte’ in French. Many pocket watches for the Chinese market had dead seconds, as it was considered unlucky to break the seconds up into pieces. These watches often had a Duplex escapement that was designed to easily facilitate dead seconds. Some very high grade pocket watches, such as made by James Nardin of Le Locle, had two separate going trains coupled to the escapement, one for the hours and minutes, and another for the dead seconds hand. More recently, simpler designs very similar to what is seen in this watch were used. I’ve seen a few vintage wristwatches with dead seconds, but this Habring2 has to be the best looking I’ve seen in wristwatch format.
@pezevengi
@pezevengi 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Pete, an elegant masterpiece that's been brought to life through your delivery.. Keep up the good work ❤
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@LagerPetrol409
@LagerPetrol409 4 ай бұрын
Great choice of watch for review, an absolute gem ! Clean and precise design cues, I actually really like it but would probably never have been on my radar. Cheers
@joeblackwolf17
@joeblackwolf17 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful unique timepiece, great review.
@etebol
@etebol 4 ай бұрын
Funny people in the comments complaining about the finish of the movement, and the price. Most plain Rolexes are more expensive and less exclusive. If this was a Patek P. It would be priced x3. I love Habring2 and had been looking for a model I would feel comfortable spending my hard earned money on. Thanks Peter for helping me make that leap. As always wonderful video.
@kuongsam2314
@kuongsam2314 3 ай бұрын
Regulator and dead beat second are tastes to acquired by watch nerds. Very nice watch to start a conversation.
@GEMSofGOD_com
@GEMSofGOD_com 4 ай бұрын
Spatial indeed! LUV it
@wikster6630
@wikster6630 4 ай бұрын
Very unique, gorgeous watch! The engineering behind it is amazing and tastefully done. Really enjoyed seeing it in your review! Cheers
@tizombie
@tizombie 4 ай бұрын
Congrats on your beautiful new watch. Wear it in good health.
@neilbotha3527
@neilbotha3527 4 ай бұрын
Great review Pete. That really is just a beautiful piece, what an awesome find
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
I know, it’s extraordinary
@BonnerRepublik
@BonnerRepublik 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful watch - and the second hand hits the marks every time!
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
Intelligent design 👍
@tictocbang7443
@tictocbang7443 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for the beautiful video. I’m going to place an order for one. I love regulator dials and this one is remarkable. Habring2 is truly special.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing that! I'm sure you will love it.
@tictocbang7443
@tictocbang7443 22 күн бұрын
@@PeterKotsa Thank you. Love your channel and your passion for watches. I ordered a Josef last night.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 22 күн бұрын
@@tictocbang7443 TOP watch..enjoy 👍
@curt4930
@curt4930 4 ай бұрын
Another magical Habring2 Pete thanks for sharing. I’m scared to go into Define at the moment I know what will happen & I can’t afford it😂
@johnmonachelli5256
@johnmonachelli5256 4 ай бұрын
Gorgeous always worth it
@abateditheleme9702
@abateditheleme9702 3 ай бұрын
Really beautiful.
@jameswong6590
@jameswong6590 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful watch!
@DUCLEBOWSKI
@DUCLEBOWSKI 4 ай бұрын
A quote from Théophile Gautier, French poet, novelist and art critic: “Beauty, the only thing that cannot be acquired, forever inaccessible to those who do not have it.” Also, this “JOSEF” is a real inaccessible beauty (for me). But, my interest in beauty is firstly linked to the admiration of the work and talent of artists, and in particular, the watchmakers Maria Kristina & Richard Habring. Thank you very much for this new presentation.
@johnnyarsenault9124
@johnnyarsenault9124 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful acquisition!👌😍😊
@ajmarion
@ajmarion 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful watch, I would love to get a Habring sometime to support their great work
@user-vv1qm5dj9c
@user-vv1qm5dj9c 4 ай бұрын
You’re right. I’ve never seen a watch like this before. My initial reaction: it’s a true expression of independent watchmaking free from the big brand cookie cutter mentality. While it may not fit my budget I can admire the craftsmanship and creativity. I hope they sell every piece.
@ravianantharamaiah7567
@ravianantharamaiah7567 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful and thoughtful watch.
@MUHAMMADAHMAD-s2z7c
@MUHAMMADAHMAD-s2z7c 2 ай бұрын
❤❤ very nice❤❤
@bullnose01
@bullnose01 4 ай бұрын
There is a practical reason for the deadbeat seconds complication. It originally was invented for regulator watches, which were developed as reference timepieces, to enable more precise timesetting.
@2manysigns
@2manysigns 3 ай бұрын
Very nice .
@andrewd7586
@andrewd7586 4 ай бұрын
Just a stunning piece of horological engineering Peter.🥰 And depth rating? I can’t be too serious!😂
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
I believe it’s around 1000m 😋😂
@andrewd7586
@andrewd7586 4 ай бұрын
@@PeterKotsa Ah let me know how that tests goes Peter! I know there’s a cheap, slightly used sub, although it has a leak, on the market to take you down. Coming up is another matter!😵‍💫🤪😂
@M3_86
@M3_86 4 ай бұрын
Dang the watch is nice
@stevefraser7501
@stevefraser7501 4 ай бұрын
While it's not my cup of tea, I hope you enjoy it. Thanks for sharing it.
@vonyp6018
@vonyp6018 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@mesteme
@mesteme 4 ай бұрын
Love jumping seconds, like the "brutal" Lange Zeitwerk, but in this Habring2 done with grace.
@Greysprunkiyay
@Greysprunkiyay 4 ай бұрын
The Zeitwork doesn’t have jumping seconds.
@mesteme
@mesteme 4 ай бұрын
@@Greysprunkiyay True, don't know why I remembered it was the Zeitwerk especially when the correct one is aptly called the Lange Jumping Seconds.
@nathanshelby1446
@nathanshelby1446 4 ай бұрын
Love it I been wanting to get an Erwin with the dead beat second but I like this even better
@thehourglasswatchchannel
@thehourglasswatchchannel 4 ай бұрын
Love your videos.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@watchexplorer321
@watchexplorer321 3 ай бұрын
Nice Video. Looks like we both have a simular taste. Put mine on a bracelet too. Limited to 1 000 pieces. One of my favorite daily beaters. Have it on the five link bracelet. You put yours on the one with the adjustable clasp. Great choice❤.
@markedfortime
@markedfortime 3 ай бұрын
This is an A+++ I've had my eye on habring for years. A true watch collector's watch. If you can't appreciate this, go buy a rolex!
@robertlock6041
@robertlock6041 4 ай бұрын
Exquisite.
@dazzlerjohnwatchman8215
@dazzlerjohnwatchman8215 4 ай бұрын
Hey Peter I love the back story and get the mechanicals and vision. Is it me? Not really. I admire the makers and those who choose its vision and horological path.
@jvduckmanton7162
@jvduckmanton7162 4 ай бұрын
Stunning watch, just beautiful. But price will never be within reach for me.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
Time to put some lottery tickets in 😋
@JesterJ
@JesterJ 3 ай бұрын
The kind of tick i dont mind!
@allthestroke88
@allthestroke88 4 ай бұрын
Habring have always been on my radar. Alas, I'll never be able to afford them.
@AnonymousYouTubeconsumer
@AnonymousYouTubeconsumer 4 ай бұрын
Gee whiz Mr. Kotsa this is stunning! Can you show a couple of duds next? With all the amazing watches you’ve shown lately, I don’t think our bank accounts can take any more.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
I think we all need to work longer hours :)
@robertcapek2425
@robertcapek2425 3 ай бұрын
Nobody does deadbeat seconds like Habrings ♥
@Beck-Stein
@Beck-Stein 4 ай бұрын
If you a ticking per second might as well make it quartz. I do like the mechanical aspect though but not the final product.
@harrisoncleberoliveira9049
@harrisoncleberoliveira9049 4 ай бұрын
Belíssimo exemplar e muito elegante também. Que bom saber que a história e inovação da horologia não vai acabar tão cedo. Parabéns pelo vídeo!!!
@macanbhaird1966
@macanbhaird1966 4 ай бұрын
This is a new manufacturer for me and I am always glad to see anything non-Swiss. Thanks for this!
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
👍
@michaelwebster8389
@michaelwebster8389 6 күн бұрын
I've bought a couple of watches from Define watches. They have just the best that's available in Australia. A lot of them I can't afford, but there are affordable stunning German watches that are definitely outdo the Swiss in certain regards. Just quality, and with their own aesthetic, and for tool style watches they're unbeatable.
@cedarcanoe
@cedarcanoe 3 ай бұрын
Only the unique HABRING couple is capable of ceating something gorgeous as this watch
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 3 ай бұрын
Agreed 👍
@DavidDatura
@DavidDatura 4 ай бұрын
What’s the dial finish? It looks here like its lacquered or enamel. Lovely watch of course, have been quite a fan of the brand for many years now.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
Not sure if its enamel, it would have mention it in the specs
@wdiffee
@wdiffee 4 ай бұрын
I was always under the impression the jumping seconds was referred to as a deadbeat second. Good to know there's another name for the complication.
@ridgemanron
@ridgemanron 3 ай бұрын
Have never seen anyone wearing my 2003 NHC - 'Wandering' - 'Jump Hour' by Vincent Calabrese called 'The Ottica'. He still 'custom build's' the Ottica to this day as an automatic masterpiece which is built by him in Switzerland.
@xianreiss
@xianreiss 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful and cool looking watch. I would love it, but het $11,000 though.
@AdAce21
@AdAce21 4 ай бұрын
0:47 looking forward to finding out which watch that is!
@watchexplorer321
@watchexplorer321 3 ай бұрын
Sinn 103 St limited. Great watch, have the same.
@AdAce21
@AdAce21 3 ай бұрын
@watchexplorer321 thanks! Looks fantastic, enjoy yours!
@stavros_katsopr
@stavros_katsopr 4 ай бұрын
Those who know, know. Rest... δεν εχουν παρει χαμπαρι! Cheers Peter
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
Hahaha, 😂
@JonathanAndersson-zz2sp
@JonathanAndersson-zz2sp 2 ай бұрын
Really nice craftsmanship and i think the finish of the movement are really nice and thought trew. The fact that they designed the movement where the regulator are the center of the movement, this watch are perfect for the collectors that like the history and craftmanship behind watch makeing! Thats the same reason why almost every modern watch whit a tourbillon movement shows of the tourbillon in the face. And people pays a lot of money for something that's useless on wrist watches. But as an collector i would love to own a tourbillon watch and i would love to own this watch to for the exact same reason! And i really love the fact that this is unique and made by an smal independent watchmaker!!! I have one issue and thats the long minute hand it looks strange and totalt of! They should have gone fore a Hour and minute hand like an regular watch and the put the power reserve where the hours are now. And of course they should keep the jumping second hand in the same position, that makes sense..... I would love to own this watch anyway but whit those smal changes this watch would go from a 7/10 to a 9/10.....
@fotohamburg
@fotohamburg 4 ай бұрын
It's like meeting an attractive woman. Lots of charm! If you don't react at first and second glance, then it's not her. Greetings from Hamburg.-
@DrTerryBooth
@DrTerryBooth 3 ай бұрын
I have a jump second watch from the early 60s. It throws most watch people because it clearly predates the quartz revolution.
@BerronesBlakeley
@BerronesBlakeley 3 ай бұрын
When it comes to fine imitation watches, MAMACOO delivers. I've bought from them several times, and I've never been let down.
@Amen20
@Amen20 3 ай бұрын
I hoped this watch brand will be something new and exciting, I own my Felix for couple years already. Great brand and lovely people, bit clickbaity title of the video.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback..really appreciated Tom 👍 Personally I think if a title doesn't match up to the quality of video content and product itself, then yes its clickbait as you said..hopefully this is not the case here. From the majority of the feedback, majority of the viewers have never seen this watch before I just wanted to introduce this watch to them in a more fun way 😊
@Amen20
@Amen20 3 ай бұрын
@@PeterKotsa That's true. Maybe living in Europe we've got way more exposure to this watch/brand that is quite common in watch geeks circles. I only added my perspective, forgot that your channel might be mostly populated by Australians or people from the US. Cheers !
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 3 ай бұрын
@@Amen20 Correct...majority US, then UK, then AUS and lastly the rest of EU 👍
@robertsmith2748
@robertsmith2748 3 ай бұрын
Rolex 6556 True -Beat did something like this back in 1956 which use the 1040 caliber
@nikkimiddlekillsday5161
@nikkimiddlekillsday5161 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, nice and unique
@Babis-h2d
@Babis-h2d 4 ай бұрын
Φοβερό έχεις πολύ καιρό να δείξεις τόσο ποιοτικο ρολόι υπέροχο.
@dosprompt5418
@dosprompt5418 4 ай бұрын
I wonder what servicing would look like 20+ years from now. These small brand in-house movements are pretty incredible but it would make me uneasy over the long run.
@chia-mingyang5804
@chia-mingyang5804 4 ай бұрын
The mechanism is straightforward and all materials are traditional. Any competent watchmaker can do the service.
@michadabrowski6501
@michadabrowski6501 3 ай бұрын
😊👍
@maxsirenko7938
@maxsirenko7938 3 ай бұрын
Ok, so, while GS makes ingenious SpringDrive to surpass the mechanical smoothness of the sweep, Habring designs 11k complex mechanical watch to imitate the jumping second hand of the quartz movement. I find this hilarious, albeit the watch looks great. But of course it takes a very specific taste (and probably quite extensive collection already) to spend 11 grand on this timepiece.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely 👍
@pierremartin9048
@pierremartin9048 3 ай бұрын
Beauty
@shiraz1736
@shiraz1736 4 ай бұрын
Ah Mr Kotsa, you’ve done it again.
@miguelangelcarrascogarcia3767
@miguelangelcarrascogarcia3767 4 ай бұрын
Greetings Peter, has the rule of only eight clocks been broken? Hello, from Spain
@scottlauren3145
@scottlauren3145 4 ай бұрын
Clocks?
@miguelangelcarrascogarcia3767
@miguelangelcarrascogarcia3767 4 ай бұрын
@@scottlauren3145 waaaatcheess
@brafman1
@brafman1 4 ай бұрын
@@scottlauren3145 I'm sure its a translation artifact
@kart182
@kart182 4 ай бұрын
Wow
@ashwinm8849
@ashwinm8849 25 күн бұрын
The Gallet regulator dial is identical
@MCMTL
@MCMTL 3 ай бұрын
You should review the Junghans Max Bill.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 3 ай бұрын
I almost did a few years back 👍
@MCMTL
@MCMTL 3 ай бұрын
Still hoping you'll answer my question/comment on your Pitzmann III video.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 3 ай бұрын
@@MCMTL I must have missed it..? whats the question?
@MrVitamincpp
@MrVitamincpp 4 ай бұрын
I have such money for watches, but not for a single watch. I've bought some expensive ones and many not that expensive and I my enjoyment is not proportional to the price in most cases. Nice watch nevertheless.
@baandoptager
@baandoptager 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful but 38.5 for a cushion is a bit too classical for me. Granted the price would be an obstacle either way.
@Therealgdoesgshit
@Therealgdoesgshit 4 ай бұрын
This is as classy as a modern watch can be ! Respect for them
@Diderot68
@Diderot68 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful watch. Maybe too light.
@leonm2407
@leonm2407 4 ай бұрын
It's official, Noosa is now one of the most dangerous locations in Australia...,.. financially. The Bermuda triangle for your wallet.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself..hahaha
@curt4930
@curt4930 4 ай бұрын
What was the Chrono you bought from Peter? don’t keep us hanging too long the suspense is killing me.
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
Patience Curt...hahaha
@watchexplorer321
@watchexplorer321 3 ай бұрын
​@@PeterKotsaSinn 103 St limited. 7 days is to long😮. A great watch. one of my daily beaters. Usually comes on two leather Straps. Green and Black. Put mine on the 5 link bracelet from Sinn. Peter has his on the one with easy and fast adjustment foromr Sinn i would asume.
@shezad9066
@shezad9066 3 ай бұрын
Price?????
@Username.RandomNumbers
@Username.RandomNumbers 4 ай бұрын
A Sinn 103 joins the collection?
@fikretnesirullah.3468
@fikretnesirullah.3468 3 ай бұрын
It is moving like kuartz
@ed18
@ed18 3 ай бұрын
Made in Queensland Austria. G’day freunde!
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 3 ай бұрын
😊
@Obsid_Ian
@Obsid_Ian 3 ай бұрын
Nice looking watch but the strap looks cheap and lets it down.
@greghassen4726
@greghassen4726 3 ай бұрын
Really like the watch, but can’t understand why they didn’t put the hour hand at 12 o’clock and the secondhand below. I totally wouldn’t buy the watch because of this because every time I look at it, my brain would have to adjust, which I find an unnecessary inconvenience in a watch. BEAUTIFUL otherwise!
@jazzman5598
@jazzman5598 3 ай бұрын
Why? Because we can :-)
@fVNzO
@fVNzO 4 ай бұрын
Nothing against the watch, the looks, or the story. But i think it is a shame, especially considering the astronomical price, so little attention was spent really finishing the movement itself. Now it's not bad, but when you make it the centerpiece of attention - having a very nicely finished movement does a lot to elevate the entire package.
@jorgerobles628
@jorgerobles628 3 ай бұрын
There is no doubt this watch has a very nice Regulator Mechanism, but the model is not of my taste. I like more the Diver or Chronograph type, not dress watches. Thank you though for your nice video!!!!
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 3 ай бұрын
My pleasure 👍
@cannedeals
@cannedeals 4 ай бұрын
2:36 Isn’t this a sub seconds, not a sweeping seconds?!?
@PeterKotsa
@PeterKotsa 4 ай бұрын
Correct, I said sweeping seconds on purpose as it was meant to invoke a reaction. The entire premise is the fact that the seconds hand goes tik tik tik :)
@Aggnog
@Aggnog 4 ай бұрын
Feel like it would make more sense to swap the hour and second positions, there is no reason to do it this way other than to "be different" for no reason. I like habring but I don't like it when usability and common sense is sacrificed for the sake of eccentricity. Other than that everything else is quite beautiful.
@Greysprunkiyay
@Greysprunkiyay 4 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? All regulators use central hand for minutes.
@Aggnog
@Aggnog 4 ай бұрын
@@Greysprunkiyay Ok, what does that have to do with what I said?
@pperret8829
@pperret8829 4 ай бұрын
that's actually not right. The idea of a regulator was to see the exact minute and second in a flash with the second on top - check it out please.
@Aggnog
@Aggnog 4 ай бұрын
@@pperret8829 Well I've never seen it, and every regulateur I have seen has hours top and seconds bottom - Patek, Chronoswiss, Akrivia, Benzinger, IWC,Glashütte Original etc. It just makes sense with how the eyes follow the dial. If there is no small seconds that's a different story.
@aussie8114
@aussie8114 4 ай бұрын
I can’t afford that.
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