This WATER Rotom-Frost+ Kilowattrel team is SO FUN! • Pokemon Scarlet/Violet VGC Battles

[@zylowolfzan3345]

In the paraphrased words of Wolfey: "Game Freak made Ice a good type, by letting you change types to not be Ice type."

[@jurganoitieman4790]

xd

[@jamesaditya5254]

That airslash into tera grass gyarados moment is what I'll be living for until the end of SV's competitive lifespan

[@cosmictraveler1146]

The mind games are getting next level

[@Natesuo]

The hail to snow change is pretty good, it has opened up potential for avalugg becoming unkillable on physical side. One thing i do wish for is frostbite replacing freeze and snow doubling the frostbite chance of moves.

[@Magetastic69]

Losing the chip damage is big imo Snow gives the Def buff to ice types, but Sand gives the same type of defense buff to rock types but for special Def instead WHILE ALSO giving chip.

[@juliand.5892]

@@Magetastic69 Right, but that chip damage also hurts your other Pokemon, which is the buff people refer to. Being able to set up Aurora Veil or go for moves like Blizzard without putting your non Ice-type Pokémon at risk of chip is actually more helpful than the chip you get on enemies. It also creates a larger distinction between the two weather conditions, which were otherwise the same just for different types.

[@Magetastic69]

@@juliand.5892 Nah, its a nerf losing damage that would otherwise break sashes etc. You bring the hail / snow, YOU plan around it because you brought it and you just don't bring things that its a negative for. It's like saying losing your left hand is okay in a fight because now you're more specialized in a right meanwhile your opponent has 2 hands. Losing the chip means sand is BETTER than snow because it brings more utility. It's just a dumb take. You can bring more non ice types if that's your point, but then you arent even getting the defense increase which means its doing nothing except set up for veil or blizzard spam.

[@ethanhager8565]

@Natsuo I couldn’t agree more, since playing this season. I have been hit with some nasty freeze hacks, getting full frozen three turns while I watched my poor mons faint.

[@mystery5906]

the problem with hail was that planning around the chip damage on your side was too restricting on team building; it meant bringing multiple ice types (the worst type), not having focus sash on anyone but ice types, having to give mons safety goggles just to save them from your own chip, etc. snow lets you buff your ice types/blizzard+set up aurora veil without limiting team composition. snow also has a better matchup against sand than hail did, because it lets you deny their chip damage. hail had a niche, and snow doesnt quite fit that same niche, but its more useful in more situations now. i think it would be interesting if hail made a return as its own entity separate from weather, similar to tailwind and toxic spikes, where you can manually activate it on your opponents side for 1/16 damage for 5 turns.

[@XylobeX]

Aaron, I followed your content during Sword & Shield, but as of 2 days ago had never played a single game of VGC (I didn't even have the Switch online subscription for it!). This morning I hit Master Ball tier, going 19-3 with the Mudsdale team you showcased on day 1 of the format. Your content (and you!) are cornerstones of the VGC community, and I'm eager to see to see what else gen 9 has in store!

[@craxx98]

The strategy from that last opponent was SO smart, i always think male Indeedee has nothing going for it but this was just incredible.

[@micaelramos21]

Thanks it was me 😂😂 I had this strategy in Sword and Shield too but never worked so well like in these games

[@Xolerys]

Honestly you just need to slap choice scarf on any After you pokemon and it'll be the same thing. It's not just an indeedee M thing

[@jonathanlgill]

@@Xolerys True, though Psychic Terrain does help in stopping Fake Out or any other priority for that matter.

[@micaelramos21]

@@Xolerys Indeedee M is my first choice bc of Psychic terrain and his speed too

[@ceruleanlovegood9125]

What’s the difference between male and female indeedee? Sorry for my ignorance

[@MiaTyrnfae]

That first game really goes to show how much Kilowattrel really is Zapdos's little brother.

[@SerDerpish]

Even Kilowattrel’s design gives me Gen 1 vibes, so I concur 😊

[@andresverdes]

DisQuake Garchomp… Wow, that takes me back to around 2010, Aaron. 😂 Glad to see older strategies revived!

[@saintsoul.3875]

The simple beauty of a National dex format 🤣

[@dank16]

Once we reach Master Ball tier, it'd be cool to see you cook up a team and use it for a vid or two!

[@peter7596]

Love indeedee males new battle pose and that strat with after you…. Chefs kiss

[@davidjames4545]

I’m living for that reaction at 35:49 😂

[@ninjasquirtles24]

The grass tera gyarados into your kilowattrel air slash was *chefs kiss*

[@EricRodriguez248]

This team's synergy is crazy! I'm loving all the chaos of a new game in VGC, it's exciting. Thank you Aaron for featuring variety to start the new game!

[@Zerromi]

That Indeedee-M play blew me away, that was so neat! I'm so used to the Protect/Trick Room plays myself (using Farigiraf as my TR setter) but this is making me consider Indeedee as an alternate angle of attack.

[@milisadconds6367]

5* raids give indeede-F trick room so you can use either indeedee for it from now

[@itslexactually]

Called shot Air Slash into Tera Grass made my dull work day so much brighter! Awesome content!

[@shamirferoz4472]

Thanks Aaron for constantly putting up top tier videos with great commentary letting us know what's going through your mind with every single move. You are definitely the BEST Pokemon VGC content creator by a huge margin! Always excited to check out your videos every day. Thanks and regards from Malaysia :)

[@alexmagna5581]

Hi Aaron! Fought you while you were using this team (I was the guy with Trick Room Gallade). Just wanted to say that your content is really making the difference in the VGC community, big love from Italy! ❤️

[@marcopelle9478]

Bro

[@alexmagna5581]

@@marcopelle9478 Bro❤️

[@PocketMonsters333]

Hey Idk if you remember the match but I battled you today! I was using the team you featured last episode and you were using a bulk up Tera water anhillape team that caught me off guard. It ended being SO CLOSE with me missing the KO on Rotom-wash with a dark pulse from Hydreigon! GGs man!

[@micaelramos21]

Hii Aaron i am the last opponent, Bloku! I am so happy for our battle i really like ur videos ❤️

[@wardengorri2293]

Man it's been so sick to see the channel growing, well deserved Aaron! I've been having a blast seeing how these new pokemon play and just the format in general, really appreciate the daily uploads! :)

[@lugical7840]

Glad you're doing well! Didn't look at the subcount for a year or so, and was honestly so happy when I saw you've gone up to 167k! Congratulations man, keep up the good work :D

[@TheMoonestOne]

35:47 I love that "AAAAAAAAAAA" xD

[@JohnnyG_112]

Gen 9 is so much fun! Seriously love it

[@victorholmes5225]

@J PK same

[@halvsketchy9293]

@J PK agreed. Legends in vgc makes zero sense too. Like in the pokemon universe, there isnt supposted to be any trainer with all the legendaries at their disposal

[@brendonkelley8213]

Thanks for your video yesterday! With that team, I made it to rank 8 which is a personal record!

[@Miguel4MG]

I found your channel recently and I learned a lot so thank you for your videos! I made a hail team with frosmoth as the mvp and reached masterball yesterday, so fun to play this gen

[@AstroPC96]

Props to you for not losing your cool after the first turn of the last game haha! I would've thrown my switch gently at least on the bed!

[@saintsoul.3875]

As much as I was disappointed in not having paradox mons in series 1, I really like how healthy the meta feels at the moment. Pokémon like Kilowattrel, abamasnow, and even maushold finding their place is a cool development.

[@SerDerpish]

Indeed. I am going to be a little sad to see this meta go once the paradox mons are unleashed. Hopefully they don’t do it too soon

[@saintsoul.3875]

@@SerDerpish from all the early meta teams I developed and tested (before Series 1) I actually though the format was really fun. This format is cool too, but I’m actually hopefully that paradox and ruination moon formats will be fun to play. Not as broken as legendary Pokémon for sure

[@souls6918]

Now it’s nothing but Flutter, iron hands and Rilla unfortunately the meta is paradox now :(

[@Assassin4913]

I love this team a lot. I've watching for awhile and really wanted to try and get more into the vgc gameplay at least Casually and I love the kilowattrel and garchomp combo I just didn't know what to pair it with so this Is super cool to see!

[@ErickSierra725]

I been playing with this team all morning. Finally reached MasterBall Tier! Thank you for the rental code, Aaron! Love watching your videos.

[@livestorun]

I’ve been banging my head against trick room the past couple of days so actually super instructive to watch your technique against a common lineup

[@Haydunn]

Great video man. Looks like a super fun team!

[@andrewmcbain8123]

Loving the gen 4 music in the intro/breakdown. Platinum/Pearl/Diamond music always makes me smile

[@ghoullyy]

Legit perfect timing. Im grinding raids and was lowkey excited for ur next vid and here it is!

[@kingpingaming4503]

I screamed with you buddy. There's so much diversity early on in the format, and it's been a mix of fun and frustrating trying to climb.

[@bocajeijlem]

Thanks so much for the killer content, only been watching for a month or so but your info mining and skill have helped my battles out ALOT

[@speedieshark2116]

I love snow! I’ve always loved weather play styles, and snow’s buff to certain Pokémon is so fun to play around with!

[@FemboyLamb]

Thank you for getting me back into Pokemon, I recently wanted to get into competitive pokemon so I made a double weather team, Rain/Snow and to answer the question. I feel snow is okay, its better than hail and not a copy and paste of sandstorm. It gives the game more varaity so changing Hail to Snow is a better move and in reality, Snow is better. Especially against physical attackers

[@gammavector79]

I ran into that same team that you fought in the last battle. Man, your "Aaaaaaa! It's chOICE SCARF!" resonated so hard. XD

[@CarnageO31]

That after you eruption though :O

[@egodimp]

LOL. The last one was epic!!

[@kallebepessoa3305]

You are so cute and kind, Aaron! You deserve all the support you have conquered all these years! Glad that I follow you, and be able to get your content is awsome. Thx for this competitive pokémon channel.

[@UknMatt]

This is my first view of S/V VGC, that Gyarados call was unreal 😎 can’t wait to see more!

[@MegaAlbay]

That last game was pure art. Thats Pokemon at peak competetive levels :D

[@angelitabecerra]

That turn 1 with Indeedee Male was epic That self Trick strat was ingenious

[@andrewfiglewski3098]

Love this team! Killowattrel is my favorite gen 9 mon I’m so glad it’s having its time to shine! Also this team is surprisingly good into the Armorogue/Indeedee Trick Room set up, even a lot of the TR oriented teams struggle against this. Garchomp Tera EQ+ Blizzard/Discharge just hits so hard. Armarougue likes to tera grass from what I’ve seen, so having ground/ice to pressure big damage either in its normal form or tera form creates a mind game your opponent can struggle against, and if they call it wrong they’re in huge trouble. Even a dragon claw/t-bolt can be good. I also ran into that TR team you played twice, I found it best to go Kilowattrel/Garchomp. Sash protects Kilo and Garchomp has enough HP to survive a Gambit. Target a t-bolt into Guru/Mim, Tera/EQ Garchomp, then you’re in position to just sweep through the team with Garchomp after a double KO. Aboma/Rotom in the back to reset Weather, Rotom/Garchomp is just so difficult to handle in an end game where your opponent has to play a 2v4 essentially. Just my thoughts on it. I was up all night playing (got to 715 on ladder!!) so sorry if i explained some stuff poorly 😂 Also thank you again aaron i wouldn’t have gotten to this level of play without your guidance ❤

[@Yellow_Kirby]

I laughed together with Aaron when Gyarados used tera grass. Hahaha! 🤭🤣

[@patdaubert8614]

I havent seen After You Indeedee in literal years. Glad to see those niche ideas still floating around

[@blackjackcwc]

Casual history lesson while showcasing the team. This guys knowledge!!!!

[@KHfan0011]

I was literally just talking yesterday to my friends about Scarf After You and now you fell for it lol. Yep. This meta's wild so far haha. Nice vids, bruh.

[@ochain224]

This was a really fun team! Water rotom was so satisfying against the torkoals, and kilowattrel's one of my fav new ones. Snow changes have been great, I think, especially for abomasnow. Using it even in a playthrough has felt so much better, the tankiness is so nice

[@MrCaseyRey]

Played a few games with this team tonight, super fun! Rotom fridge hits like a truck with the blizzard, super tanky too. Really like when you can just swap out kilowattrel into abomasnow with a blizzard on the way from rotom

[@daggercatz7297]

Terra Type Rotom-Frost seeing a fire type like: "I'll melt myself before you do lol"

[@ehcouldnot]

I love the hail change but I think it should still do chip damage like sandstorm

[@ceruleanlovegood9125]

I used Kilowattrel in my play through and I loved it so much!

[@joshuavgc4160]

Kilowattrel has such a cool battle cry. Up there with Kricketune.

[@SerDerpish]

And Gastrodon

[@kurosaki0808]

I absolutely love the design of ice type pokemon. Mamoswine is my favorite pokemon and i'm hoping they add him later in the game but i'm loving cetitan in this game as well. Glad to see my favorite type get buffed

[@bobertjohnson4459]

35:48 the sheer amount of fear in that scream

[@musicaddict1235]

This video changed my mind about Kilowattrel for sure

[@madeleine-bell]

I love love love the eterna forest music at the start of vids, makes me so happy! QOTD: I think it's overall still a bit underwhelming. I personally made a change to it in a romhack to heal ice types a bit per turn while retaining its original damage function, but I think now the 50% def boost + the little heal would make it just as competitive in both singles and doubles as the other weathers

[@michaelkarim57]

I really liked the change to hail -> snow, I think the removed damage allows hail setups to be more flexible(not ruining non-ice type sashes or worry about general residual damage). I really wish they did a bit more with the type, notably giving Ice types a resistance to Water even wider distribution of ice spinner(not even the region's pseudo legendary ice type gets it). This also goes without mentioning that they excluded the best snow setter in Ninetales from the dex, leaving only Abomasnow who has a horrible typing and stat spread that's still incredibly suspectible to powercreep.

[@Fathomorg]

The hail buff into snow is appreciated, but still not quite where it needs to be to compete with other weathers. The most notable problem is that it still only really benefits ice types. It's a lot easier to build effective teams when you have a wide variety of types; sun benefits fire, grass, and anything else weak to water, rain benefits water and anything weak to fire, and sand benefits rock, ground, and steel types. Plus, with the introduction of Protosynthesis, the viability of sun just got improved even further. Electric terrain teams are likely more viable than snow teams when you play around quark drive.

[@chadclifton1967]

I think Hail to Snow is a good change. The extra defense is nice. This team seemed fun to play but boy are there a lot of Torkoals running around!

[@Ivanreal49]

4th game turn 1 was crazy 👏 👏 👏

[@hoflax24]

The test for Snow buffs is when Kyogre and Groudon get added to the game. Sadly people always define weather by those two, so hopefully Snow can compete! If Kyurem were able to change weather too, I think it'd be really special. For now though, Snow definitely feels like its having its moment for sure.

[@civilez7060]

Disagree, depends if VGC even allows Kyogre and Groudon.

[@Matthias-pj6th]

I would've went for that Air Slash in Game 1 anyways, the fact that they brought out Garados against an Electric Type means that they have no intention of *not* Teraing it.

[@keithpalacios11]

Can someone tell me where I can see different teams and sets? I'd love to learn as much as I can.

[@beverlyhyso7553]

That first battle was so crazy funny when gyrados grass terra as you hit a flying move it was epic.

[@mrjap2x]

That indeedee after you was so sick

[@larsworldh2106]

I made my first ever Pokémon team and actually getting wins. I also completed my first ever Pokedex, this generation is so much fun.

[@TouchePV]

Thanks again for the video! Last game was sick

[@bagonsoul]

I like the change to Snow. I love being able to use Ice Pokemon now.

[@stew347]

I’d love to see you use Klawf if you get the chance! it gets knock off as an egg move and I feel like you could do some shenanigans with it!

[@klingofgames1560]

QOTD: I love the changes with snow. I think when Ninetails-A comes back we’ll really see its potential with fast Aurora Veil with the passive defense boost

[@Jonago]

Omg the Scarf Indeedee-M After You + Torkoal Play was so hype tho

[@Marshtomp1662]

Man the funniest part about being early in a competitive meta is getting blasted by something that comes completely out of left field, big ups to the guy in game 4!

[@zowwycafe]

Amazing content as always :D

[@cethxceth4751]

8:43 definitely taking notes never be too Greedy well said Aaron💯💯

[@virticul7567]

Skill swap espathra is underrated imo. It’s been fun to swap levitate Pokémon like rotom so that garchomp can hit them. Also helps to deal a bit with unaware on dondozo so your setup isn’t just worthless

[@M.W.2]

You should see how fun is kingambit plus standler. You skill swamp the intimidate to get yourself a free boost

[@velvet_echo]

I think the changes to snow are great! But unfortunately I feel like there's not a lot of great mons to utilize it at the moment. Like many others, I feel like choice to not change freeze to frostbite was a missed opportunity. Thank you for showcasing killowattrel! It has quickly become one of my faves this gen but I've been struggling to build a team with it. I caught a shiny one in an outbreak and I'm hoping to use it on the ladder. :)

[@SuperTorben95]

Hi Aaron, I just played against you. I was waiting for your Video, but now I am sure. I was just wondering why you did Not include our match. I had the team with the Pawmot. Greetings from Germany!

[@KazefuYousomo]

"Salt Guy" and "Salt Dude" - both amazing names for Garganacl hahaha

[@kitsuneprincess4637]

My personal feelings on snow vs hail is that they should've left the damage portion in and just added the Def boost, similar to sandstorm. Other than that, I think it was a nice change!

[@nautilus2612]

The chip damage was one of the main reasons why absolutely nobody used hail

[@kitsuneprincess4637]

@@nautilus2612 Oh, why's that? I'm coming from a mostly casual perspective, so I might not know what I'm talking about, lol.

[@nautilus2612]

@@kitsuneprincess4637 Because chip damage invalidates your focus sashes and becomes a hindrance for you unless you have multiple ice types, which is not convenient whether you have hail or not. Sand is different in that regard because it benefits three different types, all of which excel at different things (rock offensively, ground and steel defensively). You can build a complete team within its restrictions. With snow you get to improve the qualities of ice types (aurora veil, slush rush) without being fully committed to them.

[@kitsuneprincess4637]

@@nautilus2612 Ah, that makes a lot of sense! I hadn't really thought about that. Thanks for the explanation! I do think the changes they made were for the better after all~

[@fivestringpat]

When you bring a fridge rotom out under snow, no one's expecting it to tera-water, I love it

[@anmol-soin]

Tera just makes Rotom even more fun. This is all kinds of mayhem

[@AnzDavid]

Hey I recently found ur channel and I love how u explain all the teams and strategy. Question; can me and my friend use rental codes to fight each other

[@ΙΧΘΥΣ1]

So happy to see kilowattrel. It feels so strong but people just think it is worse murkrow for tailwind

[@FTW1230]

i still lose to murkrows alot of the time, garachomp rock slide goes brrrrrrr

[@Yellow_Kirby]

The last battle was crazy! 😳 That one crit was such bad!

[@donnervogel1229]

Was not expecting frost rotom to be this small... I remember using one for story when I played White and it was a lot more fridge-sized

[@cheezeofages]

Water fridge Rotom even makes lore sense because a lot of modern fridges have water dispensers.

[@ih8squid]

KILLOWATTREL is super slept on imo. I ran it in the Limitless tour, set up tailwind/wild charge and smacked some dodonzo's around. Was also fun when people would tera grass Garganacl. I think it's slept on.

[@ethanhager8565]

I like change to snow from hail, to quote a good friend of yours Aaron “it makes ice a useable type” -Wolfyvgc an I agree with that statement. Ice being a little bit more bulky makes it worth looking at.

[@mr.truffles9294]

The after you torkoal was amazing

[@toallcameone3325]

I've been experimenting with some hail stuff, and I've been running Tera ground scarf Abomasnow. It's caught a lot of opponents off guard with how fast the damage can come out. Only issue is that even with scarf it isn't that fast

[@vortexxaegaeon1029]

That kilo kill onto the gyarados made me smile

[@kevinmulpeter1362]

Great games again keep up the great work

[@aminabutler]

I think terrastralization is shaping up to be my favourite pokemon gimic ever competitively. It leads to a lot of interesting gameplay decisions both in battle and during team building.

[@MrDegan2]

I've been playing around with terra grass Skeledirge, it still walls terra dragon Dondozo pretty effectively through HP and def investment and slack off, while also countering Amoungus spore plays, and resisting Garchop EQ attempts.

[@brandodio7013]

when rotom frost turns water tera, does it still get the snowscape defense boost?

[@spacecoyote6101]

I think the hail change is really great. The increase in defense is obviously a great addition, but I think the lack of chip damage is also actually beneficial and not talked about enough. I think removing the chip damage is ultimately more beneficial for hail teams than it is a detriment. I think allowing you to use focus sash gives you a greater diversity of options in teambuilding that ultimately trumps denying an opponent's focus sash. It also allows your frail ice types to terastalise into a non-ice type and still benefit from sash, such as boosting a weavile's dark type moves. Finally, it allows you to optimally EV your non-ice types to deal with threats to your hail core, without having to allocate additional bulk just to live a turn or 2 of hail chip damage. Ultimately, I think the changes just give hail more options in team building thus leading to a more fun and diverse metagame.

[@krisvox_]

Nobody: Pelipper when it gets sent into battle: 17:59 - 18:00

[@betshart9146]

Why the 44 speed evs for gholdengo?