Ok so one thing to note at the end, the game does not count overflow damage towards the end damage summary, what that means is if you do just 1 total eclipse on 1 enemy with 50 health, even if the number shows 1000 damage the damage for total eclipse at the end will only be 50. Since blitz hits after everything else the numbers on blitz will look somewhat worse, but if you look at it as finishing enemies off quicker since attack+special is one motion anyways, blitz is still quite good
@hendini5 ай бұрын
So, I theory crafted a build for this aspect combining Demeter and Hephaestus. Demeter special and Hephaestus attack, using Demeter to freeze and then Hephaestus to reset the freeze using their duo boon. If you pom Hephaestus then it might become kind of wild, but it is effectively an infinite freeze build (in theory) since Hephaestus resets the cooldown of being frozen
@wrenclements18655 ай бұрын
i tried this and unfortunately the duo doesn’t just reset the re-freeze timer, it unfreezes currently frozen enemies, if you have a maxed hephaestus attack it makes it really hard to actually keep enemies frozen because they just keep being unfrozen. demeter attack and hephaestus special might be good if they reduce the cooldown on the hephaestus special in the next update so it reapplies freeze as soon as the freeze is cleared.
@hendini5 ай бұрын
@@wrenclements1865 then I guess you have to not use the attack sometimes to make it work… lower DPS but, might be decent.
@wrenclements18655 ай бұрын
@@hendiniupdate: i just tested a heph special + dem attack build and unfortunately that doesn’t work either. it seems the blast from hephaestus has enough of a delay that the freeze effect still triggers first and is immediately cleared by the blast.
@hendini5 ай бұрын
@@wrenclements1865 what if you don’t always use the Heph stuff but always use the Demeter stuff. So you wait for the Demeter freeze to go off and then use heph… it’s lower damage, yeah, but perma freeze
@kirkrenshaw77135 ай бұрын
"this build.....IT WAS MADE FOR ME!!!"
@AroluciB5 ай бұрын
Junji Ito my beloved
@Not.A.Heretic5 ай бұрын
i knew haelian was gonna love the medea aspect. i cannot wait to see what the legendary aspects are like
@FlyingPenguin1965 ай бұрын
I just realized that Medea feels very similar to Beowulf with the loading and then dashing to do damage.
@THEAWESOMEGHOST5 ай бұрын
I think it was intentional ! Closest thing to a cast weapon in this game
@tiagoferreira2345 ай бұрын
Some aspect are very heavily inspired by old aspects, Medea being Beowulf, Melenoe new axe aspect being a mini Arthur, Pan aspect is Chiron but instead of hitting the enemy you get him inside your cast, old Momus being similar to Zag Spear. If we never get to play as Zag let us at least use some weapons that are kinda similar to his
@kampfkeks66195 ай бұрын
Possessed Hammer was also really nice with the old Persephone aspect. You charge the Glory with your attacks and when you omega special through the enemies you pick up the skulls. Especially with Hera on the special
@Kohcta5 ай бұрын
tried the same loadout but with static shock, and I was shocked how much damage it does. usually static shock is never more that 10% of all the damage, but with skull it was the second second biggest source of damage after attack, even more than blitz. both blitz and static shock where rare, and I pommed blitz couple of times.
@theodadagian69325 ай бұрын
Day 2 of asking for this super niche build: I'm a long-time lurker and fan and I just got this sweet build after several tries. It centers around Poseidon cast with the dark side hex and the Momus aspect. There's a path of stars upgrade for dark side that allows your normal cast to be treated as your omega cast. With Poseidon cast this means your normal cast detonates instantly, allowing you to cast again. Basically it just chains Poseidon cast damage over and over while taking no damage. Where this gets craaaazy is with new Momus. While normally I've noticed Momus only allows for one of the red orbs that repeat the omega move per type of omega move (one for cast, attack, and special), while dark side is active, there is no limit to the number of repeating casts. So basically repeating geyser nuke. Would love if you could make a video on it!! Some of the most insane damage I've done.
@drumstep91355 ай бұрын
Possessed array was already quite good imo on medea and was part of my first 32 fear clear. Didn't realize it got buffed to remove the delay. Will make it feel a bit better without having the +2 shell hammer, which mainly was just a convenience hammer that made the delay less annoying when clearing standard rooms and you'd prefer something else anyway.
@aebisdecunter5 ай бұрын
Why would Aphrodite attack be bad? Highest +% possible, and on some aspects poseidon duo boon applies the +% damage no matter the distance. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but Blitz disappears as soon as you deal 120 damage, giving origination for only first of the 3 shells, if you load all shells at once (especially great with "quick loading" hammer). It may be fine for a 1 shell at a time playstyle, but 5 shells + quick loading + apollo double attack + aphrodite attack (+200% damage) melts enemies. I prefer appliying origination with a cast anyway for bonus +30% damage and cos demeter(cyclone, not frozen)/aphrodite are great for crowd/projectile control. Since you want to be close to enemies with Medea anyway, cast-in-place is fine before Hades cast throw.
@shataraterevar5 ай бұрын
@13:14 You could have taken the chaos gate, it adds a room to the biome in this situation similarly to Hades 1 (so you get the shop afterwards anyway). Happened to me a few times (Unless Chaos is not worth the few sec loss to take:P)
@fishermancy77195 ай бұрын
Yeah I’m pretty sure speed runners don’t take it because of the time loss. usually they only take chaos gates because it counts as the next room, making the overall region shorter. This is especially helpful in fields, which is why they rolled for the ixion before fields
@Haelian5 ай бұрын
It's a speedrun. But did you know the frog can block the sheep hex?
@fishermancy77195 ай бұрын
@@Haelian No way. You’re messing with me, you have to be
@Foolish_S05 ай бұрын
Glad you love this aspect too, easily my favourite in the game and very strong too considering I managed to clear Fear 50 with it. It's currently both at the top for fear clears and speedrunning so Medea fans simply stay winning lol. Good vid
@malikhittam14405 ай бұрын
50 fear?! Damn. And here I was feeling good about limping through 32 fear with old momus lol
@Foolish_S05 ай бұрын
@@malikhittam1440 Don't feel down at all! 32F on anything is a big accomplishment everything above is just for people like me who has masochistic tendencies lol
@malikhittam14405 ай бұрын
@Foolish_S0 thanks for the encouragement lol. I might try pushing high fear at some point myself because I'm having a ton of fun with the game and I really like watching people do those crazy difficult runs. It would be cool to get good enough to do that myself some day
@hilfazer5 ай бұрын
I was already taking Posessed Array. It was pretty good already before the patch (free omega attack as well). The delay could be bypassed with the Sorceress arcana. Not vs Chronos obviously but it turned out to matter way less than i expected. It might be the best magic-free build now. Mel Aspect, Exceptional Talent, Weed Killer, Keen Intuition, Bolstered Array.
@amanofnoreputation21645 ай бұрын
Aspect of Medea is the Ullapool Caber.
@manfrombc51625 ай бұрын
I like this aspect, because pretty much any run you'll use both the special and and attack, which isn't the case for most aspects.
@mateoostorero22235 ай бұрын
Looming ignition with medea its so fun
@SolotaireKid5 ай бұрын
how did you "de-unlock" the 0 arcana card in the middle? Like usually if you have a card unlocked, it will still have the colour but it wont be activated, here it looks like you didnt unlock it at all. maybe you changed something in the save file?
@aerinclouds5 ай бұрын
He downloaded a speedrunning save file. You can’t lock something you have unlocked
@SolotaireKid5 ай бұрын
@@aerinclouds got it. Thank you
@Saracen935 ай бұрын
The speedrun save file never unlocked the card.
@Razarex5 ай бұрын
You can move a lot faster with the sheep by mashing attack special and dash. I think sheep has a dash strike that allows you to move faster
@RaheemMcdermott5 ай бұрын
When I get turned into a sheep instead of dodging, I constantly attack to faster get around the map, and when I really need to abovoid a hit, I dodge.
@jonahsampson48435 ай бұрын
*clears throat*
@anonomusperson5 ай бұрын
you should be able to toggle off awakening archana, or give them a alternate effect, like mabey alternate centaur gives +5% damage and +5% channel speed every 5 rooms
@SuperHansburger935 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this aspect. It's super fun to use now :)
@carthagegaming55455 ай бұрын
as a sheep if you dash then attack, you get two little skips that goes a lot further.
@papertiger45255 ай бұрын
Very new to these Hades runs - I always assumed the death at the start was just merely coincidental, to show this as being in a sequence of runs. What does it mean for a run to be "unseeded", and how would one seed a run if they wanted to do so?
@Haelian5 ай бұрын
Hitting Give Up from the main menu just rewinds time to just before you started the run, so if you start another, you can* be offered the same things and thus know what's in every single room. To prevent this, a death is shown which randomizes the next run seed. *It's very difficult and time consuming to "map" out a seed to force the same chambers/rewards every time but it is possible.
@fishermancy77195 ай бұрын
You missing the fields ix was so funny lol
@homonym76385 ай бұрын
Hey Hae, just as it's a little quick, in what order are you pumping out your attacks and specials with Medea? Mashing them together, or does one ideally go before the other? Thanks bud!
@Haelian5 ай бұрын
Mashing them together doesn't really work, loading the attack isn't instant so you kinda have to spend a second to load it.
@homonym76385 ай бұрын
@@Haelian Got it, thanks bud! Loving all the new Hades content, dog bless
@Chillst0rm5 ай бұрын
im curious why you wouldidnt take some HP hearts to a degree or some ways of boosting hp. Thus pushing 30 HP into your >30% HP strength arcana ratio. Allowing you to always have 50% dmg & 50% dmg reduction while being at 30hp for white antler. Sure its annoying when you get fountains to force yourself to get hit. But whats the point of the Strength arcana if its when you only have 9hp or lower?
@smashlimeblogspot15 ай бұрын
i think it's mostly for the speedrunning aspect, in a normal run this would be fine but he was trying to clear the run ASAP and taking the time to get hit would be too long.
@kigurimi5 ай бұрын
Is that a different savefile, where you just haven't unlocked "The Centaur" yet or is there a way to specifically lock certain arcana cards again? I just can't find an option for it >-
@Haelian5 ай бұрын
Yep different savefile, it's available here www.speedrun.com/hades2/resources
@crazytony185 ай бұрын
Anyone knows why a 5th god was offered on Charon's shop in the Mourning Fields?
@sangesefid3665 ай бұрын
Just my face when he didnt get the chaos that he tried so hard for 😂😂
@gussus31425 ай бұрын
how did you not have the centaur unlocked? Is there a way to unlearn arcana card or do you just never unlock this card?
@NathanGomes-qf8bm5 ай бұрын
Playing these games makes me an analytical specialist.
@OveractiveTiger5 ай бұрын
i just started playing hades 2 and was wondering how you do so much base dmg, ive used the skulls before and am still doing nowhere near that much
@Rohar_Tha_D5 ай бұрын
slow down Arcana doesn't make your speedrun slower tho, because the channeling speed is the same either way
@Haelian5 ай бұрын
It slows down enemy spawns and invulnerability phases on bosses, probably some other stuff.
@Rohar_Tha_D5 ай бұрын
@@Haelian trueeee tho!
@awesome118-smmo5 ай бұрын
Inb4 the “bro fell off” comments
@teusz165 ай бұрын
1 hour and only two “bro fell off” comments, bro fell off
@justarandomdood5 ай бұрын
Lmao isn't this the run where you trolled sub-9 by forgetting Chaos in the Fields Edit: yeah lmao, that was funny xD
@wtfmate775 ай бұрын
is there a way to unlearn the centaur card? Or do you have to start a new game?
@Haelian5 ай бұрын
No way currently, there's a shared save on speedrun dot com without it unlocked.
@thenaballerina5 ай бұрын
i can see possessed array being nerfed😭
@foxislam82775 ай бұрын
It's so funny to me that Hecate did more damage to you than Chronos
@Lolishpallie5 ай бұрын
Why does showing death prove unseeded mean? What does unseeded in Hades mean?
@sam.k.classic5 ай бұрын
Unseeded in hades means that the RNG (random number generator) of the game hasn't been modified in some way to benefit the player (so the next room's reward hasn't been pre-programmed to give player ideal items and pathway). By showing the death (or victory of previous run), it shows the set-up area of the next run and shows that the run is unseeded. (I don't know the nitty gritty of it. I'm just explaining the gist.)
@Lolishpallie5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@thepopgroup33665 ай бұрын
possesed array is so broken
@xiv30365 ай бұрын
how is his hp 30?
@aluminumtarkus5 ай бұрын
That's base HP. No Titan, Centaur, Frinos, and hearts.
@gwbricks5 ай бұрын
Hi
@austingardner7855 ай бұрын
Bro fell off
@joshboike70525 ай бұрын
you've never been anything in your life
@austingardner7855 ай бұрын
@joshboike7052 yea I have, I've been a commenter on KZbin that made you upset for someone who doesn't know you