This Why Ryanair Said "NO" To Airbus A320neo and Turn to Boeing!

[@IPMI_pascal_fanti]

Passenger do not care what type of aircraft they are flying in. Until Boeing falls from the sky.

[@tinkertaylor4447]

There is no secret to why Ryanair chooses Boeing. All Ryanair aircraft are Boeing 737. This makes maintenance cheaper, You only train maintenance on one aeroplane, pilots train on one aeroplane ,and all your parts are standardised. Ryanair will not use any other aircraft for that one and only reason. It’s no big secret.

[@henrikhansen484]

Problem is that if Boeing 737 get grounded for some reason then Ryanair are in deep s…

[@Bobspineable]

@@henrikhansen484the only 737s with issues are Max, they still have plenty of NG models that fly perfectly well. Ryanair is also European and European standards are way higher than elsewhere, meaning if the EU thinks the Max is safe, it probably is.

[@javijee_]

​​@@BobspineableThe problem with the rudder freezing affects other models, not just the MAX.

[@dongrant1423]

They have 26 Airbus

[@JBM425]

@@tinkertaylor4447 On the flip side, there are airlines that exclusively fly Airbus for the same reason.

[@old.not.too.grumpy.]

Passenger normally don't care what make of plane they fly on untill problems with one manufacturer come to light. It will only take a few more well publicised incidents on Beoing"s planes for passenger confidence to disappear

[@nialldaly7108]

Flown with RyanAir several times. No issues, arrive on time and don't pay over the odds. Do a little work in your own time first. Book on time to save money. watch the bag weights and size. take your time going thru the website. etc etc etc.

[@lroke2947]

Flown with them tens of times because for a decade or so they were my only direct flight to the UK, later on-and-off to Scotland. Not a single flight I've been on has ever been late, and I actually liked the bugle sound upon landing. Their hated booking system appears to have become the industry standard and their lower fees were just a bonus -- I would have used their direct flights anyway to avoid transit in, say, Amsterdam or Copenhagen (done both but, since the UK is not Schengen, didn't enjoy the extra checks in huge airports with their huge queues). Besides, most of their planes have had their new plane smell on them. :)

[@brianwhelan5382]

As an Irishman I read that Ryanair won a contract to spray chemtrails, every little helps I suppose, spraying the sky with poisons

[@jonathanashbey1868]

I read that an load of people sit with tinfoil hats on posting utter nonsense online all day

[@MADTASS]

It Wasn't Ryanair that said No, it was Airbus. The Airbus Order Book is Bulging at the Seams Compared to Boeing and as Such they Don't have to Give Ryanair the Discount that they would Normally Expect from Boeing. Personally, I think O'Leary Secretely Realises that the Airbus is a Better Product Compared to Boeing.

[@lusitaniafilms]

Great comment. I was cursed at by saying that now Ryanair might have to change their name to " CrashAir. Airbus has the best, and safest planes. when did the news say that a wheel fall off, or a door blow out on an Airbus? :)

[@Brutus-id4je]

@@lusitaniafilms no, you was called ignorant, and ignorant you are.

[@navajojohn9448]

Six months to get an A320 type rating and airline training switching from a B737? I don't think so. Airline new hires spend two to three months to learn all facets of the company procedures and aircraft training. What else is not accurate in the story?

[@andreab1604]

pretty much everything. Inaccurate and misleading

[@paulcloetens9582]

Forget Ryanair no service at all and with all small adds you pay the price for a normal air compagny fly ..

[@building_brands]

Ryan Air's preference for Boeing is definitely a negative for me. I feel much safer on Airbus...

[@Bobspineable]

You know Boeing is still quite safe right because aviation in general is safe. Plus are you just going to avoid all of them, even the older jets.

[@drbulltrader9107]

Rayanair has a very bad reputation, now it turns to Boing-Boing Max??? No thanks, I prefer regular airlines that uses AirBus or Embraer

[@alexm5764]

Newsflash they've been using Boeings since forever and had 0 crashes. But keep crying

[@brendanmccabe8769]

So Ryanair think loose wrenches within the airframe a minor issue? Interesting. Aircraft have been brought down due to this and it reflects poor operating practices in production (all tools should be accounted for) should make them question what else may have been missed.

[@ManiPulatoR84]

Crazy comment section 😄 Ryanair getting lots of hate for no reason. Maybe public expectations on short-haul flights are a bit off - what, y'all expecting Emirates 1st class suite level of service on a flight from Stansted to Malaga, are you kidding me? 😂 Flew with Ryanair, Easyjet, Vueling, Wizzair. They're all the same: Get you from A to B for reasonable fares (contrary to, let's say, Lufthansa, which offers low cost service at premium fares 🙄). And their MAX are, well guess what, flying and not dropping out of the sky like flies. And yes, I would've avoided the MAX during the MCAS drama.

[@alexm5764]

The only difference between these companies you just mentioned is that Ryanair is always the cheapest and offer the exact same service as Wizz or Vueling.

[@politicalhorizon2000]

To be honest I don't usually fly Ryanair because when I add my carryon and the extra bus ticket because the airport is way farther, it is often the same price or more expensive. Here in Paris, they fly to Paris Beauvais, and it's far and much more expensive to get there by bus than Orly or CDG.

[@davidcommins1]

I'm a very happy Ryanair customer and will continue to fly with them as long as they are the cheapest 👍

[@FLIGAVIA]

For the cheap price everything they offer is acceptable!

[@e.9628]

@@FLIGAVIA they also fly lots of very convenient routes (some people dislike that they fly to "lesser"-known airports, but it just so happens that those airports are typically closer to the places i need to fly to/from

[@karlp8484]

Well, it's no brainer for Ryan Air. They've always been a pure 737 airline so how can they change? All they can do is optimise their routes and find extra ways to cheapen their costs.

[@FLIGAVIA]

That's right!

[@normanedwards7220]

And that is why I said g Oodbye to Ryanair and hello to easy jet

[@FLIGAVIA]

🤔 I haven't flown with Ryanair. Is it really bad?

[@normanedwards7220]

@@FLIGAVIA no , they are about the same as easyjet , but since Boeing's 747 scandal ( knowing their 747's had fatal faults , causing two to crash , killing all onboard , and then denying anything that there was any problem .........untill being caught out ) , I think that I would rather fly in a plane that was not made by them

[@tiestu7612]

@@normanedwards7220 You must be talking of the Boeing 737 Max ...

[@BenC901]

The main question would be: Why Airbus said NO to Ryanair requests of discount ???

[@retinaquester]

Correct. And I am sure Boeing did not redesign a "new 737" because the low-cost carriers did not wanted to have to recertify all it's pilots (now 737) to any other typerating. So Boeing kept it's changes to minimun while still enhancing the engine fuel effeciency. That was the rootcause of the 737-Max issue with the added sensor.

[@schanche1965]

More telling is the real reason Boeing can only get MAx orders is by heavily discounting them, the most sure sign of a company that 'got it wrong' and is in terminal decline as a result. Boeing had a great reputation for quality and safety, effectively McDonnall-Douglas did a reverse takeover and ruined everything 😢

[@lusitaniafilms]

Why should they?. They have the best planes on the air today.

[@barryporteous4904]

If I worked for Boeing and finding out that the only reason I have a job is because the product I help make is cheap and not because quality or technical excellence, I would feel less than 100% happy in my heart.

[@fensterlips]

They are less expensive because they have been making the 737 for 50 years and a lot of costs are long amortized

[@barryporteous4904]

@@fensterlips I did not comment on why they are less expensive - I think you missed the point. Yes, amortised some years after 1967 when break even point was reached but the product still had updates.

[@davidrussell8689]

Airbus doesn’t have to offer discounts ; it’s order books are full . When ( not if ) a catastrophic failure occurs with a 737 Max operated by Ryan Air they might realize that eggs in one basket hasn’t been a good idea . I’ve been told by people in the industry that Ryan Air’s maintenance teams are of a very high standard because that’s so important keeping downtimes to a minimum. However , Boeing’s quality issues make the max unsafe . Time will tell .

[@ijoseluis]

I prefer travelling in Airbus. And, definitely, I prefer whatever company other than Ryanair.

[@FLIGAVIA]

Let’s try once

[@jamesbong4928]

Never had a problem with Ryanair

[@petercorcoran8217]

Demand for Airbus is absolutely massive and very difficult to get at a cheap price. I try and fly Airbus at every opportunity rather than Boeing. Like for like it will always be Airbus

[@FLIGAVIA]

Big fan of Airbus!

[@emmamcguinness6273]

I have always flown with Ryanair and its you get what you pay for but ive never had a problem with them, they have always gotten me from a to b - if you want luxury definitely don't fly Ryanair but it does what says in the tin and there cabin crew are always very nice and professional

[@FLIGAVIA]

That’s amazing

[@cuthbertbaggins2036]

Wow! it never even crossed my mind that RyanAir were running a fleet of 737 Max aircraft... I was literally about to buy flights on RyanAir for a Christmas trip due to them being a bit cheaper than other airlines but will now avoid them.. thanks for the warning.

[@FLIGAVIA]

Let's try to fly with them one time

[@TotalOpel]

I've flown with them 4 times in the last month - no problem whatsoever.

[@alexm5764]

I flew with them over 30 times this year and had no problems... Your loss buddy 😂

[@roberthall5036]

Regardless of seat price I would rather pay more and arrive in one peice. Give me Airbus anytime.

[@Adrian_152]

You arrive in one piece on Boeing too... 🙄

[@roberthall5036]

@@Adrian_152 You might but will the plane? To many bits fall off the boeings for my liking.

[@FrewstonBooks]

While I much prefer Airbus, it has to be said that Ryanair have proven to be a very safe airline.

[@Adrian_152]

@@roberthall5036 Not true , that is mostly because of maintenance issue caused by the plane operator (the airline) and mass-media exagerates everything related to Boeing nowadays

[@manofchange832]

I've flowen bothe A320 neo and B737 max , and A320 by far out class B737 .

[@FLIGAVIA]

Thanks for the real experience :)

[@maxedww]

I used to fly with Ryanair all the time. Since the Max and all the later problems (there seems to be bad news from Boeing almost daily now), I have never flown with Ryanair since. Pity. They were good times.

[@airborne.visuals]

I can tell you the Max is an outstanding aircraft to fly. Even better than the NG

[@seankelly3774]

@@airborne.visualsbut not safe and Boeing was way too slow to correct which we cannot trust them and my life is more valuable than saving a few euros

[@AlteranAnciote]

Airbus doesn’t need to undercut Boeing, particularly when they know that Boeing will “dump” aircraft at a discount to get a sale but go running to the authorities and cry “bloody murder” if they think their competitors are undercutting them (see CSeries dumping petition). Airbus has a very healthy order book and they don’t need to fight with O’Leary to sell them aeroplanes for a bad deal. Ryanair isn’t my favourite airline, but sometimes they’re unavoidable. And I do find it hard to forget that they run the 737 Max “Killer Planes”.

[@FLIGAVIA]

😅😅

[@davidlamb8229]

I am one customer that chooses aircraft type over cost. I will never fly Ryanair

[@davids2350]

Ach. They’re no that bad really. I took one over to Germany recently and it was not only very cheap it was also very quiet with a comfy seat. I was however, shitting myself there and back!

[@schanche1965]

​@davids2350 you are more brave than me, I will not fly on a Max

[@gerohubner5101]

The main reason is that the calm, safe, elegant and customer-oriented travel experience in an Airbus doesn't quite fit with Ryanair's cattle-like low-cost airline mode. In Europe, Ryanair is the true "air bus" - you get a seat and get to your destination. You can't expect more for the prices...

[@FLIGAVIA]

most calm comment here. Very reasonable!

[@johnpipping3848]

And why would you expect more for the price? Ryanair’s safety record is good and it gets you from A to B, fine for a short haul airline.

[@XuairiBSS]

Exactly, I don’t see the point of blowing stupid amounts of money on expensive flights which don’t even last more than 4hours. Ryanair has 0 fatal crashes in over 40 years of its services; Cheap and reliable.

[@gerohubner5101]

​​@@johnpipping3848I know, I'm aware of their successful business model and have nothing against it. I use Ryanair regularly for private short distance travel up to 2 hrs flights. They are reliable and relatively punctual, and very inexpensive of course. But you travel like with a city bus. Nothing against a city bus, I use it sometimes too.

[@jamesrickerby2756]

They wanted a discount, and as Airbus is at full ,they don't need to discount, so they went to Boeing. But with the accidents, Boeing has had good luck!

[@johnmurphy4814]

I don't really need another reason to not fly with Ryanair, but it's kind of them to add one...

[@trentikaa]

I’ve stopped flying Ryanair because of Boeing

[@FLIGAVIA]

Don't mind telling me about your experience with Ryanair.

[@alexm5764]

As if they care... People care more about their money rather than some internet sensationalists

[@HellStr82]

I used to fly with RyanAir before i saw what Boeing really is and how they make their planes . Since the 737 MAX accidents i have never took a single flight on a Boeing plane and i never will

[@Alec-ri9tu]

The 737 MAX is entirely safe. The only reason there was many crash reports was because the computer systems were faulty. This is boeing’s fault, but the 737 MAX is entirely fixed and completely safe now.

[@Brutus-id4je]

I’m the opposite, the 737 MAX is my favourite aircraft to fly on. I think possibly due to the issues that occurred, even more attention than usual to safety has likely made it one of the safest aircraft ever. Indeed i do feel very safe to fly on them

[@Alec-ri9tu]

@@Brutus-id4je Same

[@efortlight]

That's cool😊we've said no to ryanair a long time ago

[@thedrunkgeek6824]

congrats... literally no one cares though

[@robertfreeman7906]

I flew with Ryan Air a couple of years ago and what I didn't like was not being able to reserve a seat, maybe that has now changed, what I did like was the seats couldn't be reclined so much better for me. When I fly from Marseille to London I still need a bus to get home to South Wales, so Ryan Air goes to Stanstead, Easy Jet to Gatwick and BA to Heathrow, OK what are the differences not much when you have to pay for baggage in the hold, BA gives and included 23Kg bag in the economy ticket but you have to pay extra for the others carriers and the prices then become very similar, so I prefer BA where possible and they also fly Airbus and so I do feel a little more comfortable with this

[@scotthavarth9423]

Same in USA iF YOU GET THE bASIC NON-REFUNDABLE ECONOMY FARES FROM THE dELTA, aMERICAN AND uNITED, THEY ARE FAR CHEAPER THEN THE LOW COST CARRIERS WITH A BETTER SERVICES, CONNECTIONS AND ON TIME DEPARTURE AND NO CANCELLATIONS.

[@The_Red_Squirrel]

I don't know when you last flew with Ryanair, but in my experience over 25 years it has always been possible to reserve a seat on Ryanair. I agree with your view on seats not being reclining. It eliminates the issue of being cramped by the passenger in front of you, and is not an issue on flights that are seldom longer than 2-3 hours.

[@ronparrish6666]

Can't pick a seat on Southwest either at least not yet

[@FrewstonBooks]

Ryanair once used Airbus to get a cheaper price from Boeing - they had no intention of ever buying Airbus. Airbus has publicly said that after that they would never sell to Ryanair, so Ryanair are stuck with Boeing.

[@FLIGAVIA]

Really

[@matzmn]

True. The same with Southwest. Airbus already knew they were not seriously considered their planes. The airlines only wanted to squeeze Boeing.

[@SverreAustegard]

Den eneste grunnen til at de ikke velger Airbus er at de har 73X , de trenger da ikke enda et fly som må ha egen opplæring av alt fra piloter, crew og teknikere. Så man kan si at den eneste grunne er bunnlinjen. Det er det samme med Norwegian, en leverandør av hele flåten og det sparer de penger på i det lange løp.

[@flappelapperr]

Da de fik MAX skulle piloterne også have oplæring og de har allerede nogle piloter, crew og teknikere fra Malta Air som de også ejer. De ville blot skulle have flere.

[@comment943]

Ryanair isn't a bad airline at all just remember have your bag weighing and size done before you fly and be on time then there won't be a problem

[@FLIGAVIA]

The price comes with service 👍

[@flappelapperr]

tbh i've never had my bag weighed or checked size a single time and i fly with them 20 ish times a year.

[@killianpotworoska3096]

There is only a kind of strange illusionary hatred against Ryanair in the Main Stream Media! And that has been going on for decades and that probably has to do with the climate agenda as well as the enormous success of Ryanair. They are deliberately excluded and refused at major airports because they would often ruin the parent companies. I have flown a lot with Ryanair between 2010 and 2020, the peak time of Ryanair as a low-cost carrier. In the meantime, I no longer experience them specifically as the cheapest at the destinations to which I fly frequently. And besides, I have to do a lot of effort to reach an airport from which they fly (the Netherlands). I have always liked the mentality of Ryanair which was 'hurry up, quickly, quickly, sit down because we have to get our slot' loved it! The service on board or the comfort is just as bad as with all other companies that fly on short flights only they were always a lot cheaper:-) Whoever you fly with you are crammed like sardines in a can and if the flight lasts longer than 3 hours your body starts to crack and resist this miserable comfort. Ryan air also always had relatively little trouble with delays that are annoyingly frequent on the large international airports.

[@FLIGAVIA]

A very objective comment!

[@kaamkmca]

It must be a bit of a gamble for Ryanair to trust Boeing for safety into the future. If there are any further serious safety issues/incidents with the 737 MAX particularly if a serious incident happens on a Ryanair 737 MAX flight , it could be 'curtains' for Ryanair. This is a consequence of Ryanair being caught in a Boeing 'honeytrap'. Also, Ryanair's business strategy is dependent on an 'integrated business model' (Porter's model) of which the sole use of a single aircraft type (the 737) is an essential element. Boeing must get their act together very quickly. Otherwise, if Ryanair (because of it's size) were to fall over Boeing 737 MAX safety issues, Boeing itself would have a consequential fatal business collapse.

[@FLIGAVIA]

That's right.

[@paulfernando1887]

Maybe because Ryanair gets huge discounts from Boeing and doesn’t see the need to change.

[@FLIGAVIA]

Discount is something hard to say no 😆

[@Optima109]

Very good airline, safe and efficient

[@johnpipping3848]

Ryanair does what it says on the tin. It’s fine. It has a good safety record. I’ve used them on occasion and never had any issues.

[@cjmillsnun]

Ryanair's fleet with the exception of Lauda is all Boeing 737. Airbus has such a long waiting list they would never give O'Leary a discount.

[@FLIGAVIA]

Even if Ryanair wants to replace it with Airbus aircraft, it will take a lot of time kkk

[@GregPalmer1000]

Cheap fares, passengers packed in like sardines...vast network...!

[@paulcloetens9582]

@@GregPalmer1000 in a metal can 😊

[@paulodonoghue7478]

Ryanair only use 1 make of aircraft for economic reasons and service. Most pilots have flown 737s in some model and crew training is easier than a different aircraft. After the tragic events of 911 when airlines cancelled purchasing planes Michael O Leary CEO bought a huge number of planes at discounted prices. Smart move. Even after the recent events with Boeing he sent his own people over to Boeing to kick ass and get the issues sorted out. If you go by Ryanair rules then you have no issues. At the recent AGM he was asked would he give loyalty cards out to frequent flyers. Answer was no. We are not a supermarket but give great deals. It is the 2nd biggest budget airline in the world. Not bad when the started in 1988 I think we a few leased aircraft.

[@FLIGAVIA]

That's right.

[@rufinoreyacorda8027]

Yes dapat may boeing din❤❤❤❤❤

[@1geoser]

Love Ryanair. Almost always on time, good prices. Staff is friendly and I like O‘Leary, one of the few true Entrepreneurs in the EU.

[@fjp3305]

Ryanair doesn't treat employees well

[@1geoser]

@@fjp3305 I don't know, but they are friendly. Maybe other companies should ttreat their employees badly too😉 On a serious note, I heard from Pilots that they like to work for Ryanair.

[@fjp3305]

@@1geoser Crews have to bring their own food and water.

[@1geoser]

@@fjp3305 so do most employees except maybe those in the tech sector with their gigantic margins.

[@fjp3305]

@@1geoser Not at many airlines.

[@tomhermens7698]

I don't fly Boeing !!!! No quality , no safety.

[@FLIGAVIA]

You decision👌

[@JoeNuez]

I’ve never been in airbus, since I fly Jet2 from Newcastle or Leeds. (The only airport with Jet2 airbus planes is Manchester) I’m also not planning on flying with airbus as if I do, I probably won’t want to go back 😂

[@andrepotgieter7083]

Airbus do not need to give discounts as it is the ultimate Quality Unmatched in the Skies ! Boeing is not Going !

[@markonybelgrade]

Are you insane mate...ultimate quality??? Both planes have their faults and good points. Ultimate aircraft is baby between Boeing and Airbus.

[@johnburns6422]

My experience with Ryanair goes back to the early 1990,s / Once bitten never again it is said [you get what you pay for ] well you get less with Ryanair .

[@peterlbaldwin511]

Have to say that I flew with "Ryanair" from Alicante, Spain to East Midlands, U.K. in April of 2015. But then being "disabled", I had an "Assisted Passage"..! The flight was surprisingly good, and so was the level of assistance provided, so no complaints there. However I realise that I am amongst the fortunate few regarding "Ryanair". It is No Surprise really that "Michael O'Leary" has chosen Boeing's Notorious 737 Max aircraft, I am sure he got a good deal from Boeing, who have apparently quite a stockpile of the troubled aircraft and must be eager, now delighted to get an order. For his part "O'Leary" obviously cares little for passenger concerns regarding safety, as long as the price is right... I very much doubt that "Airbus Industrie" are losing any sleep, over the loss of an order from a frequently troublesome customer, who are after all,hardly industry leaders, certainly in terms of customer satisfaction..!!

[@fjp3305]

Actually, the B-737 MAX has a large orders backlog

[@colinbrown9549]

@@fjp3305 And a large % were ordered before anyone knew there was an issue with them, including Ryanair

[@georgeclarke163]

As ever, you are totally missing the point. Airbus have made it clear that they will never deal with Ryanair and they don't need to. O'Leary is a totally objectionable little man and by tying his company into Boeing he is now in the position that he deserves.

[@FLIGAVIA]

Thanks for your adding information

[@willswomble7274]

' loyal to Boeing' so I'll NEVER be going!

[@FLIGAVIA]

🥲

[@alexm5764]

Who cares?

[@petergraham9267]

O’Leary is a horse trader……and he has Boeing by the balls, and they know it! Any discounts offered by Airbus will be immediately matched by Boeing. Airbus are just waiting for Boeing to implode, then they can charge Ryanair the same as everyone else! It’s a waiting game, and Airbus can wait much longer!

[@Bobspineable]

You sure, it’s companies are government funded to a certain extent

[@alanolley7286]

Irish Horse Trader ,love it.

[@vernongoodey5096]

Maybe Ryanair want to get rid of their passengers

[@davis7099]

a very long winded way of saying. Ryanair stays with Boeing because 1 . They get discount 2. In operating a single type they save massively on parts and repairs. Thank you.

[@FLIGAVIA]

Thanks you

[@tmlodzik]

Since they started using 737 max a have stopped using Ryanar

[@FLIGAVIA]

Maybe when you need to fly on a budget

[@johnmurphy4814]

​@@FLIGAVIAI always consider likelihood of reaching a destination WITH my luggage a higher priority than saving a couple of €, I'd rather sacrifice a beer or two. Few people NEED to fly if their budget is that tight. Having faced arguments that my small canvas bag, with just my small laptop (which has to go in the cabin), a book (I was planning to read on the 3 hour flight) and jacket (lightweight, took up little space), had to go in the hold, being instructed I had to carry the 'important' things - so I removed the 3 items from the (now empty) bag & asked for a carrier bag, which was declined - so I said 'I just need a small, empty bag - oh, here's one that will fit under the seat' and promptly put them back in. Gross stupidity combined with blind determination doesn't help improve customer relations. Unfortunately, Ryanair has copious amounts of both, it's in the training.

[@1234smileface]

Ryanair ticket prices have been increasing lately and will be next year also.

[@FLIGAVIA]

Oh...

[@jobbiejew]

I wonder if RYR will ever go down the Comac route to achieve a saving. As a regular passenger on their flights I feel more comfortable in a 737-800 than I do in the 737 MAX200’s. I very much prefer Airbus aircraft but it is what it is.

[@grahamstevenson1740]

Comac isn't building C919s fast enough for that to be a possibility.

[@jobbiejew]

@@grahamstevenson1740 far from fast enough, they are still a fairly new company to be fair just like Boeing and Airbus were one day. They’ll scale up eventually. Would quite like to see another manufacturer compete with the supremacy of the big two and Comac seems to be in the best position for that. Give them time :)

[@AC-SlaUkr]

Airbus doesn’t need Ryanair, but Boeing does. Typical Ryanair.

[@armindoteixeira2363]

I do care what type of airplane I fly on and I do care about the airlines. And NO, Ryanair it's not a low cost airline, or not that low. The places I fly to, and the times I want to fly, the tickets are almost the same price when I get ticket, seat and luggage. So, NO WAY Ryanair. That's my last choice and only if I get no other choice

[@FLIGAVIA]

Oh😅

[@jeffp5162]

Hmm, apparently Ryanair wanted Airbus but was demanding a special deal, Airbus refused.

[@FLIGAVIA]

Their customer will be happy when hearing that!

[@augustiner3821]

it's a good development that Rayair is decreasing its activities in Germany. Carry on.

[@lrg3834]

Boeing’s saving grace is the massive delivery backlog at Airbus, otherwise the best choice is clear.

[@pxtokarev]

I avoid Boeing and Ryanair, seats are not confortable.

[@stevewilson6390]

Keep Ryanair away from airbus, keep low budget and quality with Boeing.

[@Test.Unknown]

Seats are chosen from the airline.

[@janisvaskevics93]

Boeing quality is now quite famous in the news.

[@bentheman68]

good, never would fly a max and never would fly with ryanair. btw, for a airbus you need money, they are far more expensive than a 737

[@buddy1155]

You stole my post :(

[@alexm5764]

I flew with them over 30 times this year, so funny to see people complain about non existing issues

[@tiestu7612]

Airbus don't need Ryanair . If wonder why Ryanair don't use pilots from Bangladesh and flight attendants from Somalia .

[@jamesmiller4114]

Great team work - a shite airline joins a shite manufacturer, what could go wrong

[@FLIGAVIA]

😅

[@TotalOpel]

Ryanair are one of the best airlines around IMO. I've been flying with them regularly for 30 years and have never had an issue.

[@alexm5764]

I pay 100s of euros less with this shite airline for the same service 😂

[@inwedavid6919]

they mainly baught a lot just after 11/9 so they get a very discounted price, and for people flying in it they also loose all who don't want to fly the Max, when you book, plane is renamed 373-800 and there is no mention of MAX anywhere.

[@FLIGAVIA]

Really?

[@inwedavid6919]

@@FLIGAVIA I just recheck the belgium site, they don't even speak anymore of the plane model now when you book it, many other company let you see what kind of plane you take before the end of the booking.

[@johanplane7067]

Ryan Air is not so cheap if you have luggage to check in. Adding this and that makes the ticket price almost equal to that of a flag carrier sometimes even more expensive! Considering the overall service and (dis-)comfort they're not Ryan is not worth it

[@michaeltalbot8242]

I can understand the cost of things, however all your eggs in one basket can leave your operation exposed😮

[@JohnSales-f2i]

ryanair out of Newquay, on time and great service!

[@grahamjohnson4702]

At least on long haul flights, a lot of people do want to fly on certain planes and plan their flying either by route times or company flying certain planes. I myself prefer A380 then 777 and finally if I have to 787. On short haul, either the airport or the time are more important as you are not on the plane long enough to worry.

[@ciaran_socal]

There is a simple answer: no A320 Neo are available to order before 2032. They will get 737 Max orders delivered earlier.

[@FLIGAVIA]

Ryanair is also experiencing delivery delays from Boeing.

[@NicholasWarnertheFirst]

A lot of nose in the air snobs criticising Ryan Air here. And yet it is Europes biggest airline.

[@FLIGAVIA]

Oh, they provide services at reasonable prices. Many people accept that and that is why Ryanair is popular.

[@TotalOpel]

I've been flying with Ryanair for 30 years and I can't fault them. They fly all over Europe and really low prices. I've never had a single problem with them.

[@johnmurphy4814]

Taking exception to dire customer service doesn't make anyone a 'snob' & Ryanair has the worst customer service I've ever encountered. There are other 'no frills' airlines that don't stoop to Ryanair levels, I use them, instead.

[@NicholasWarnertheFirst]

@@johnmurphy4814 Then ypu are just a snob.

[@grahamjohnson4702]

@@FLIGAVIA If you didn't have Ryanair you would have a lot of people unable to afford to fly, and the prices of other companies would be higher without their competitiveness

[@ES24chantal]

Cheapest tickets - it's only a laugh. Real example - luggage. So a direct flight Madrid to Dakar is offered by IBERIA for approx. 350 EUR - but NO luggage. First luggage 150 EUR, second 180 (one way!!) - so the final price is minimum (if booked largely in advance!!) 680 EUR and prices rise quickly, especially if booked late or during the season. The luggage is anyway for my friends in Africa. Now other airlines include in their prices automatically 2 pieces a 23 KG. So it is insane to see, that in the end a 7 hour flight from Dakar to Istanbul plus a long night wait and another 4 hour flight to Madrid is cheaper - you just need more time (and a lot of patience). Now I plan flights up to 6 months ahead and travel with one small bag only. The same applies to low-cost carriers. You pay for EVERYTHING. A glass of water might be free, if you have to take medication.

[@FLIGAVIA]

Of course, airlines like Ryanair with low fares can't include other services, if you want you have to pay extra. I thought that was normal.

[@Braun30]

This leaves many open slots for Airbus contracts, then if the 737 Max gets grounded again Ryanair will be scrambling to get leased planes.

[@sleepy-beagle]

I’d never fly Ryanair. So they can use eagles as far as I’m concerned

[@FraserWest-um4ue]

Austrian airlines still owns most of Luda Air because they had already started the process of buying them. So Ryanair doesn’t actually own the airline they own some of shares but that’s it

[@gerohubner5101]

You're confusing two completely different things. The Ryanair subsidiary is LAUDAMOTION (now rebranded as 'Lauda Europe Ltd.), established in 2016. Lauda Air was the carrier founded by Niki Lauda in the late 70ies and taken over by Austrian Airlines in 2004. They endet as a brand in 2013. These two airlines have never had any relationship with each other other than their names.

[@FraserWest-um4ue]

No I am forgetting anything just ignoring some of what you’re saying because isn’t correct

[@harryaudia6]

If it's boeing I ain't going

[@FLIGAVIA]

Great choice my friend

[@EmmaLundin-v5t]

Reason as always for Ryan to buy Boeing is the price! No mystery.

[@tntfreddan3138]

It's all due to saving money and keeping costs down. The 737 is cheaper than the A320, especially since Ryanair basically has a "regular's discount" on the type, making it even cheaper.

[@FLIGAVIA]

that's right!

[@TierOneAviation]

When at point 4:48 in the video i disagree, as an aviation nerd and future pilot i care about the aircraft type 🤓👆

[@FLIGAVIA]

Kkk. Thanks for sharing!

[@CAS35]

Yea same

[@SwissA220-airbus]

Ryanair is a loyal Boeing customer, meaning they never had thought to purchase the A320 or A320neo.The second fact that it is a low-cost airline, that is the reason they only buy Boeing 737 MAXes because its cheaper.And Ryanair has a discount. So this video is WRONG

[@geoffreybibby7704]

The Boeing max has major problems which will cost Ryanair

[@Derekmorgan-s2j]

maybe the 737 has a more stronger undercarriage Ryan air noted for heavy landings 😁

[@AndreBRUN-lf8lx]

Actually the A320 has a stronger undercarriage

[@Test.Unknown]

Guys, it’s not that deep, they both get you to your destination, it’s not that deep.

[@HarryOld972]

The only thing I like about Ryanair is that like Easyjet they don't have reclining seats. Everything else about Ryanair I avoid.

[@fjp3305]

No reclining seats? I couldn't stand that

[@HarryOld972]

@@fjp3305 You are one of those selfish people who thinks they are so important that they are justified in putting the headrest into someone else's face.

[@colinbrown9549]

@@fjp3305 You're supposed to sit not stand, the seats are fixed in a small reclined position

[@fjp3305]

@@colinbrown9549 Anyway, I can't put up with that.

[@colinbrown9549]

​@@fjp3305 For sake of 1 or 2 degrees more recline because that's all it is!

[@WillReims-s2s]

Ryanair is using its aircraft as they were buses. Not much comfort, no additional service and a lot of cancellations. Its becoming to big to fast, the management can't follow up on everything and lack some customer service that would actually try to improve. Not for me, ever.

[@The_Red_Squirrel]

I have flown with Ryanair regularly for 25 years and have only ever experienced one cancellation, and that was due to the grounding of aircraft because of the ash plume from an active volcano in Iceland.

[@FraserWest-um4ue]

Yes I agree with you on that Ryanair is using their planes exactly like buses therefore they don’t really consider the passengers or their comfort on the plane they are just trying to make as much money as possible whatever they can out of the passengers and they shouldn’t get a way with that as you have probably seen Ryanair turns their planes around in 25/30 minutes to go to the next destination regardless if all the passengers are at the gate now and they leave them behind and yes Ryanair has a big problem with it’s management because they can’t keep track of where planes are because they are using them like a bus service

[@WillReims-s2s]

@@The_Red_Squirrel Good for you but it is not the same for everybody. What I like about this low cost airline is the fact that they have an equity of 44% which is quite rare for a low cost and regular airlines. I always found that low cost for short haul (under 2.5 hours) was a good choice though their services onboard and customer services as always lacked. As an example, SouthWest airline was good when they started but now face difficult time because they have grown too fast and can't cope with the myriad of problems an airline could go through. The first is still having 737-200 in their fleet which cost a fortune to maintain and to fly as their engines are gas vampires. Why would you ask, simple they don't have the money to buy new planes. Ryanair is not an exception to this problem and will have to join the bandwagon of low cost not being able to renew their fleet without asking more to fly per passenger. This has been the problem with all low cost airlines since People Express.

[@pinger201046]

How long can price be outweighed by the effort required to push g water up a drainpipe? Boeing has Ost it's way and f Ying in a MAX is risky.

[@mumar100]

I used Ryan one time in the last 10 years Vienna - Milano (Bergamo) - Vienna as AUA/LH were 4 times as expensive (70 vs 300 €) delayed, e-mail-spam without end, very anoying booken (they try to upsell useless crap). Not a convenient experience. If possible I stick with Star Alliance

[@FrewstonBooks]

All airlines try to upsell.

[@mumar100]

@@FrewstonBooks No, I never experienced anything like that with LH, AUA, Turkish, Air China, China Air, PAL, Singapore, ....

[@MySkyranger]

Boeing deal. Buy one, get ten free. 1950s junk.

[@stevewallace1117]

Actually, I have a friend who shreds Airbus and Boeing planes once retired. He said Boeing planes are tough to disassemble, Airbus planes are tin cans. Nuff said.

[@adamforembski6039]

Better and easier to dispose. Better for our environment. Look back in history of air crash. Far more Boeing crashed than Airbus. And by the way.... The main frame of 737 is from 1969!!! Although they modernised everything else they can't change the fact that the frame is so old. That's why they have to install bigger engines in front of, not under the wings. What changed plane aerodynamics and made it to STOL easier. They tried to compensate this tendency with sensors and computer software but they failed miserably twice when those 2 crashes happened. 737Max its not a military B2 bomber. It should be able to fly without any computer assistance. It looks like for this moment...it can't!!!

[@neilpickup237]

​@@stevewallace1117I am afraid that your friend could be drawing false conclusions. You only have to look at the automobile industry to see how cars used to be built and how they are built today. On the surface, the old cars are far more substantial, and far less likely to be written off following an accident, however, survivability is far more likely in a modern vehicle than an older one. I have looked at pictures of survivable crashes involving A320 series aircraft and Boeing single-aisle ones. It is the Boeing fuselage which most often breaks up into several pieces, whereas the Airbus is more likely to deform.

[@franciscovaz3119]

the ryanair airline is the greatest airline cheap and reliable get what we pay for and may they continue being the best airline in europe

[@tigertadge]

Ryanair - best airline, 99.9% of time always on time , and good ticket prices 👏👏👏

[@FLIGAVIA]

very cheap price

[@jamesbong4928]

Newest planes, one of the biggest airlines in Europe, attracting the best pilots .... followed by a stream of jealous children whenever they're mentioned.

[@johnchristmas7522]

Really? hope you don't need the toilet on flight.

[@celticlofts]

As O'Leary himself said. "If Airbus gives us good deals on Airbus aircraft we'll all be speaking French."

[@mgsegoo1124]

Boeing recently acquired spirit aerosystems. Hope they get their reputation back on track. Back then they turned air travel from luxury to accessible because of the Jumbo, the greatest aircraft ever.

[@FLIGAVIA]

Miss the 747!

[@edwardnsubuga8906]

Thank you and it is only Ryanair you can talk about no other airline, airbus too good for Ryanair

[@tomasradnic8874]

I do check what aircraft will I fly and if the price difference is acceptable, I will pay more to fly airbus. I dont trust boeing anymore. By the way, when I flew Ryan into BRD, there was water on interior panels of the emergency exits. I have reported it, but it further undermines my distrust of boeing.

[@BrendanKearney-z9t]

That's normal, happens in all aircraft