This Will KILL the Panama Canal

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@BeyondFacts
@BeyondFacts 9 ай бұрын
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@seanworkman431
@seanworkman431 9 ай бұрын
You are full of it
@muddogtracker7449
@muddogtracker7449 9 ай бұрын
Who still believes it.... Nobody! Climate change is supposedly making the sea levels rise...? But the canal in dropping..... So who's lying this time?? The same ones telling us the Great Lakes would be under an ice sheet... in 1979.. Or the ice caps will be gone by 2015?..... Somebody's blowing smoke up your azz... $climate $scam $again....
@BoatbuildingIndia
@BoatbuildingIndia 9 ай бұрын
Very very nice ❤❤ Have a great video 🚢🚢🚢🚢😱
@davidhyman1617
@davidhyman1617 9 ай бұрын
Climate change causes whatever effects you want them to cause.
@terryhoath1983
@terryhoath1983 9 ай бұрын
"and potentially put it out of business as Panama did in 1914" ???????? WHAT did Panama put out of business ????? Learn to speak English .... or even some kind of intelligible Americanese, before uploading videos.
@matzmn
@matzmn 9 ай бұрын
What many tend to forget is that a container ship can carry thousands of containers and it takes a lot of trains just to move containers from just one ship to the other side.
@jamesthompson7282
@jamesthompson7282 9 ай бұрын
And "35 km/hr." speed isn't setting the bar very high.
@Curt_Sampson
@Curt_Sampson 9 ай бұрын
And let's not forget the cost of moving the containers off of ships, on to trains, and then back on to ships at the other end. There's no way this is going to "kill" the canal; it can't even compete with a canal. The problem the Panama canal has is not this railway, but that due to climate change it's unclear how long it can continue to be a canal effective for transport of ships.
@xavermooshammer4816
@xavermooshammer4816 9 ай бұрын
Maybe that's why they call it "beyond facts" 🥳
@gusbradley3846
@gusbradley3846 8 ай бұрын
It probably would only take a couple of long trains, stacked 2 high, to transport the containers. There is a time issue to unload and reload but it’s possible the the sea route to Mexico is shorter, and the cost could be equivalent, given the waits and high cost to transit the Canal. It sure worth a look.
@gusbradley3846
@gusbradley3846 8 ай бұрын
@@Curt_Sampson it costs up to $500,000 to transit the Canal. Plus there’s always a wait to enter, sometimes weeks. I question the cost difference without hard numbers.
@cyrillawless
@cyrillawless 9 ай бұрын
Low rain fall for one or even ten years is not climate change it is weather.
@muddogtracker7449
@muddogtracker7449 9 ай бұрын
Maybe they should start a "weather modification" program like we do in the U.S. ? It worked on California this year......
@jbird6609
@jbird6609 9 ай бұрын
@@muddogtracker7449 Where did you hear that? How do they do it? why didnt they do it last year?
@muddogtracker7449
@muddogtracker7449 9 ай бұрын
@@jbird6609 (1)From water management websites(watershed controllers). (2)From aircraft. (3)They were........ Look up Santa Ana River, Watershed Project, weather modification... They even show the application dates ... .... Kinda ended it early because of flooding..........
@JariJuslin
@JariJuslin 9 ай бұрын
@cyrillawless : We don't have to guess, because the root causes are already known. The recent drought is a combination of El Niño and record heat caused by the climate change. Droughts in warmer parts of the globe are one of the best known effects of the climate change.
@dannycbe949
@dannycbe949 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely!! Any idiot who puts his money to build an alternate route...is an IDIOT!
@patentexperts1675
@patentexperts1675 9 ай бұрын
What's nice is that a ship from one side can have a many multiple destination load for the other side. In other words; a ship from New York can have containers destined to Japan, China, Philippines, Australia, Vietnam and LA, San Francisco, and Alaska etc. The containers once transported from the Atlantic to the Pacific side can be re-distributed to many other ships for the many Pacific destinations..
@steve-dq7hh
@steve-dq7hh 9 ай бұрын
True but how much stuff do we ship overseas anymore. When I worked in the container terminal we had so many empty containers stacked up here that it became almost cheaper for the Chinese to build new containers then to gather up, load and send a ship back to China loaded with empties...........this poor country gave a lot of their mfg. away.
@frankedgar6694
@frankedgar6694 28 күн бұрын
That sounds good but could be a logistical nightmare. A 20,000 container ship would have to just sit there waiting to get filled.
@terrylaw18
@terrylaw18 9 ай бұрын
Panama Canal was built using 19th century tech and equipment. With modern tech and equipment it should be possible to bring it to sea level or at least rebuild using lift locks instead of the current water level locks. It will just take the will and funding to make this happen which could be more difficult than anything.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 5 ай бұрын
Aren't lift locks being used now? PC locks do in fact lift the ships.
@wayneparsons7966
@wayneparsons7966 6 ай бұрын
I’m confused how can you have climate change in an area. When we went to school and they taught science, we called it weather
@rescuingmodernity
@rescuingmodernity 5 ай бұрын
Climate DOES CHANGE in specific areas. Think about what English words mean, not what can be speedily misrepresented in order to substantiate an inane claim.
@andy99ish
@andy99ish 3 ай бұрын
Too bad they haven't taught you that the world consists of areas. And guess what, a widespread change also affects them.
@tonymorrell2353
@tonymorrell2353 3 ай бұрын
Please climate change nuts always contradict themselves. We're supposed to be worried about climate change because of rising sea levels😂😂😂. But apparently water is lowering so I guess we can not worry about it
@dmi6101
@dmi6101 Ай бұрын
@@tonymorrell2353 You understand that not all water is in the ocean, right? The canal is fed by an artificial lake and the issue with the water is that said water is escaping into the ocean, and the lake isn't being filled back up. Not rocket science...
@williamrbuchanan4153
@williamrbuchanan4153 Ай бұрын
Take ships on railway line. Must be dreaming. Earth drying out from heat beneath Earths the crust.Water cooked out and sinking soil. Mountains crumble, rivers dry up, ice all gone. Who needs canal or railway. Not required. NO money no people no goods. No rain , nothing.
@MidnightVisions
@MidnightVisions 9 ай бұрын
The Panama canal isn't loosing water from climate change. 1. It has had a major valve stuck open for months draining the lake around the clock. 2. Bad Policy in restricting ships with minimal draft to passage, which causes more water wastage. Ships with more draft allows less water wastage.
@jameswalker758
@jameswalker758 9 ай бұрын
Centrtal American drought is making the situation far worse since the Solar minimum tranition periof start in 2004 prior the 2008 start of the Modern GSM. The impacts of GSM drought are significant which both the Mayan and Roman empires failing during the LALIA GSM 585-640AD.
@biggusdickus9046
@biggusdickus9046 9 ай бұрын
think they need to stop cutting down and destroying the amazon rainforest and dont believe everything your masters tell you about the mayan and aztec history.@@jameswalker758
@brianmorris8045
@brianmorris8045 9 ай бұрын
@@jameswalker758 It's trendy to use climate change as an excuse.A few years ago they were using the term global warming, then long before that, they were blaming global cooling. What's next? But the canal will recover. But I am for the Mexican railway being restored again. If only to take the heat off the canal for awhile.
@richardthomas1531
@richardthomas1531 9 ай бұрын
Not True. Valves can easily be replaced ,Climate change can't. Einstein.
@marbleman52
@marbleman52 9 ай бұрын
@@jameswalker758 .....You missed one important fact: Since humans are responsible for ALL climate warming ( just ask Greta, she will tell you the truth...), then it is Man that has caused the Sun to go through all of the GSM's and other solar periods that directly affect Earth's climate. To avoid the destructive GSM's, we just need to pass a law that prohibits the Sun from doing this...!! Now I will go prostate myself at the feet of the "Queen Mother of All Climate Knowledge", Queen Greta, and tell her my amazing solution to all climate problems. Surely she will reward me with one of her many polluting gas burning, carbon polluting, private jets for my own personal use.
@Pl-qq4yl
@Pl-qq4yl 9 ай бұрын
I do not understand why Panama canal would suffer from water shortage , I thought we are told that the icebergs melt causing rise in sea levels.
@PeteH0121
@PeteH0121 9 ай бұрын
Ha ha ha ! Yes. The sea levels are rising dangerously in Climate Catastrophe World but back in the REAL world, there is NO Climate Catastrophe just a Climate Alarmism Catastrophe instead.
@Dumbrarere
@Dumbrarere 9 ай бұрын
The canal acts as a transition between a source of saltwater (the ocean) and a source of freshwater (the lake used as the intermediate between the two sets of locks in the canal itself). Because of a stuck valve and significant shortage of rainfall, the lake is losing water at current.
@jeremybaker7502
@jeremybaker7502 9 ай бұрын
How many ice bergs are in Panama that feed the lake?
@bruceweirich3733
@bruceweirich3733 9 ай бұрын
Ice cube effect.
@muddogtracker7449
@muddogtracker7449 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, all our coastal states are under water now..... Oh wait.. They were wrong again about that, weren't they..... Kinda like the Great Lakes being under an ice sheet, like we were told in 1980...... But pay your carbon tax and shut up.........
@albertomanuelcheung7103
@albertomanuelcheung7103 5 ай бұрын
La niña is here and plenty of rain is flooding rivers and lakes that feed the canal. As July of 2024 the water level of Gatun lake is almost back to normal and regular transit of ships and tankers are back to normal. (Update).... as of October 2024, the frequency of rains have been torrential thoughout the entire isthmus almost daily, that rivers and basins flooding the Gatun Lake have been enormous.
@lucybecker8
@lucybecker8 Ай бұрын
I wonder if it would make sense (and be physically possible) to create a reservoir nearby to fill during plentiful rainfall periods and use to replenish the lake during drought periods.
@albertomanuelcheung7103
@albertomanuelcheung7103 Ай бұрын
@lucybecker8 When the canal was expanded to allow super tankers to cross the canal, the new locks were equipped with a recycling system so the water wouldn't flow back to the ocean. Also, there are other projects to concentrate the different rivers and water basins flowing into the Gatun lake, the main thoroughfare for the ships to cross from ocean to ocean. 2024 has been a very rainy year and the canal is functioning to normal flow of 30 to 35 ships daily.
@Ody-up6kg
@Ody-up6kg 6 ай бұрын
Unloading and reloading the containers is a massive task.
@prudhviteja2349
@prudhviteja2349 5 ай бұрын
Moreover, you need ships on both sides
@BillDyszel
@BillDyszel Ай бұрын
And expensive.
@waynestaats8207
@waynestaats8207 8 күн бұрын
Increasing the danger of theft.
@billlindamood3243
@billlindamood3243 8 күн бұрын
@@waynestaats8207 THIS! Thieves break into rail car containers in LA on a regular basis. Unfortunately, trains must stop from time to time, whether it's to let another train pass or wait their turn in the yard. Stop in the same place twice, and the thieves are waiting.
@ScottKew-g8r
@ScottKew-g8r 9 ай бұрын
Uhhh. You are not paying attention to current events. Canadian Pacific Railroad was allowed to purchase the Kansas City Southern Railroad that ran to the western ports in Mexico. Now ships can unload in Mexico on rail be taken by train to the St. Laurence River in Montreal and be on their way. Faster than the Panama Canal. Already a done deal.
@missiontovenus123
@missiontovenus123 9 ай бұрын
The Northwest Passage would beat the trans rail link. I got lost trying imagine up through the Great Lakes. They’ll be going around the Horn before anything else. I’m going to vote for a fix in Panama, and a cessation of drought. It’s the jungle. It’ll correct sooner than later.
@thegiggler2
@thegiggler2 9 ай бұрын
Doubtful that it would be faster than not unloading and then loading containers again.
@ScottKew-g8r
@ScottKew-g8r 9 ай бұрын
You know You may be right. I am just pointing out the plan as it unfolds.@@missiontovenus123
@LoociferZ
@LoociferZ 9 ай бұрын
yes but this video is fake.
@manontondalan9941
@manontondalan9941 9 ай бұрын
lol they can offload at vermount, canada a lot more closer...faster than anything ...airplane.
@marksamuelsen2750
@marksamuelsen2750 9 ай бұрын
I’m a 71yo Veteran and when I was on active duty in the USAF going to the Canal Zone was considered a GREAT place to be stationed. Primary because the Exchange Rate was great and the local women loved American guys.
@FacelessMan777
@FacelessMan777 9 ай бұрын
The maids, housekeepers, bar girls outside of Howard Air Base, are those the local women who loved the American guys? Just like the women living around Clark Air Base in the Philippines. They loved the Americans for one reason, to get those Americans dollars and hook up with a sucker to bring them back to big PX/CONUS. Even a pineapple faced, dumpy G.I. with a gut, thinning head of hair could get a date in either Panama or the P.I.. The women thought and E-3 was loaded with dinero. It mostly worked out poorly for the goofs that decided to marry a local, bring her back to the States and then deal with it 10 years down the road after she was able to get all her family over to the United States; It usually turned to shit pretty quick after ma, pa, baby brother and little sis finally made to the U.S. and got their green cards, actually it turned to shit even sooner. I have story after story of former service members who screwed the pooch and married one of the locals they met while at Howard, Clark, Cubi Point or Subic Bay. They were all warned before stepping one foot off the bases in Panama or the P.I., "Don't think about marrying one of 'little brown eyed beauties. You'll be sorry'.
@JanH80-pm5bw
@JanH80-pm5bw 9 ай бұрын
Lucky you. Was you there in 1989?
@Prfdt3
@Prfdt3 9 ай бұрын
$$$$$$
@francoisarseneault3142
@francoisarseneault3142 8 ай бұрын
Local women grabbed your $$$$$$ but neverthless hated your guts !!!
@musicfanBRA
@musicfanBRA 8 ай бұрын
Good memories. So maybe you have some sons or daughters in Panama that you don't even know about?
@YESITSWILL
@YESITSWILL 9 ай бұрын
The railway won't be a canal killer, but the competition should result in reduction in costs.
@ernestimken6969
@ernestimken6969 8 ай бұрын
A major principle on the canal was the control of malaria by the US. The worker death rate plummeted under US Army doctors.
@crónicasmesiánicas5777
@crónicasmesiánicas5777 17 күн бұрын
The Panama Canal Operations have being for 100 year. And we know the how, It is no so simple to replace a containesr Vessel which can carry 10K or more TBU. ¿How many train vagons will be needed? Also considering the load and discharge operations time. But the higly cost to built a dry Canal or a combine Canal are extremely high. It can take decades to start seen profits. Ecomomical risks are considerables.
@YESITSWILL
@YESITSWILL 17 күн бұрын
@@crónicasmesiánicas5777 Costs will be high initialy, but they will likely just concentrate on specific cargo and configurations that are profitable and that they are efficient at handling. Modern terminal operations are exponentially faster and more efficient than they were just 20 years ago.
@nwgguy1070
@nwgguy1070 9 ай бұрын
I doubt 1/10 ot the traffic will make much of an impact, but the 21 day wait at the canal, and a lower cost toll alternative to the Panama Canal by railway, would be a very big incentive to go by rail for some shippers.
@brianmorris8045
@brianmorris8045 9 ай бұрын
It might also encourage the panama government to find solutions quicker to sort out the water problem. I wonder if at all they tried cloud seeding to get rain falling again in that area?
@rustyneuron
@rustyneuron 9 ай бұрын
@@brianmorris8045They did, but the crop failed due to no rain.
@xavermooshammer4816
@xavermooshammer4816 9 ай бұрын
It'll balance out somewhere... waiting times at the ports will have a major impact 😜
@michaelkruck-weimuller31
@michaelkruck-weimuller31 6 ай бұрын
How about calling your video: “This will NOT kill the Panama Canal”
@reshhaverstahm7729
@reshhaverstahm7729 27 күн бұрын
Accuracy in advertising? It'll never fly.
@williamblake8650
@williamblake8650 9 ай бұрын
With modern equipment seems like they could now cut a sea level path across the entire route. Hell they remove complete mountains now.
@JariJuslin
@JariJuslin 9 ай бұрын
@williamblake8650 : That would certainly be a solution unaffected by the climate change. But cutting through all that ground is not trivial, especially as you need to keep out the water on the existing canal unless you want to close it for years. Yes, we have modern technology now, but it would still be a gigantic undertaking. A construction project that would dwarf pretty much any land moving operations humanity has ever done.
@markrouse2416
@markrouse2416 9 ай бұрын
Those are Asian countries that do that because commercial loans can be as low as 1 percent.
@grooveman222
@grooveman222 9 ай бұрын
Not commonly known is the fact that the two oceans have different sea levels, and different levels of high tide. At the entrance to the Panama Canal, the Pacific Ocean can rise as much as 20 feet, but 45 miles away, the difference between high tide and low in the Atlantic is just three feet.
@tired7140
@tired7140 9 ай бұрын
Or a lot closer to sea level at least.
@Luis_Ah_Hoy_Jr
@Luis_Ah_Hoy_Jr 8 ай бұрын
@@JariJuslin , just one correction: This solution would still be affected by climate change.
@astrinymris9953
@astrinymris9953 9 ай бұрын
Of course, all Panama has to do is build some containment tanks and pumps so they can re-use the lock water instead of dumping fresh water into the ocean every time, and the Tehuantepec railroad will be SOL.
@PhilJonesIII
@PhilJonesIII 9 ай бұрын
They have some rather clever water conservation techniques already employed. The lake seems to have become a bottle neck because they appear to rely on it maintaining a more-or-less constant level.
@rcpmac
@rcpmac 9 ай бұрын
First of all, I couldn't scroll fast enough to get through your history lesson and then lost patience looking for the actual crux of this proposal. BTW why not offload ship cargo to trains in texas for domestic distribution?
@Maurice-c6z
@Maurice-c6z 5 ай бұрын
@@rcpmac because Texas will tax the shit out of the distribution
@elrolo3711
@elrolo3711 9 ай бұрын
The lack of rain is very temporary. The entire west coast of n america receives all its precipitation from the pacific ocean storms. Every once in a while, some areas randomly get droughts. If you look at the big weather picture from the satellite’s, you will see how the same thing happens on different parts of the coastal areas. They are anomalies.
@daexion
@daexion 9 ай бұрын
No, it wouldn't be the "final nail in the coffin" for the Panama Canal. It will eventually just dry up due to too much water being lost over time to the oceans and not being able to replenish the water effectively. That is simply the inevitable result regardless of what Mexico does with a rail-line, or whatever they're building, to move ships from coast to coast.
@GordMerrick
@GordMerrick 8 ай бұрын
The water replenishment after each ship takes the trip comes from rivers and lakes flushed from the high mountains not the seas. Unlike the Suez that does not require locks the Panama does require locks. Each tIme a ship passes through the Panama Canal all that fresh water used to float the ships is flushed out and lost to the seas. It's wasteful however it was never a concern with a year round abundant rainfall into the surrounding high mountains. However, now with a drought and climate change perhaps the Panama Canal is doomed over time.
@robertpayne9009
@robertpayne9009 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@BeyondFacts
@BeyondFacts 9 ай бұрын
Hi robertpayne9009, thanks a lot for your support 🙏
@joblo341
@joblo341 9 ай бұрын
Who did the Panama canal put out of business in 1914? It took you 7 minutes to answer the question. I doubt it would have the capacity and make a significant dent in panama transits. Unless the water shortage keeps up. How long would it take to unload and load large container ship? How many ships could they handle at the same time. Would it be possible to dredge a significantly deeper channel through the lake to reduce water usage?
@lanimulrepus
@lanimulrepus 9 ай бұрын
"Beyond Facts"... An appropriate name for the group presenting this video...
@thornil2231
@thornil2231 9 ай бұрын
don't forget to put a thumb down and more important click "do not recommend." you understand that by clicking and commenting we put money in those scoundrels pocket.
@piotrberman6363
@piotrberman6363 9 ай бұрын
This project requires very sophisticated container handling facilities, with possible benefits that can sustain it in years with ample rain in Panama. First, Mexico as the destination, would get improved ports. Second, you could use ships larger than Panamax across Pacific, and split cargoes to different destinations in Gulf of Mexico and south Atlantic ports of USA, and the same on the way back. This is how ports near the mouth of Persian Gulf make business.
@mouradbelkas598
@mouradbelkas598 5 ай бұрын
It makes absolutely no sense. You will need 2 ships and it would be costly. How many trains are needed to transport just the containers of 1 ship?
@LordDustinDeWynd
@LordDustinDeWynd 9 ай бұрын
Beyond "Facts" is "Fiction". ICYDK.
@nknumero
@nknumero 9 ай бұрын
flash news for mexico , soon we will have nothing and be happy , so there will be no cargo flow... once again.
@charlestoast4051
@charlestoast4051 9 ай бұрын
I was just thinking that it seemed like you had a president who actually cared for the people promoting a scheme like this one.
@JusticeAlways
@JusticeAlways 9 ай бұрын
Just being curious... who are you referring to as "we"?
@nknumero
@nknumero 9 ай бұрын
@@JusticeAlwaysoh , dont worry about it , you are included.
@charlymalaga4275
@charlymalaga4275 9 ай бұрын
for sure thank you Klaus happy in paradise ???
@JusticeAlways
@JusticeAlways 9 ай бұрын
@@nknumero Ok...nothing to worry about!😄👍
@plainjane5724
@plainjane5724 Ай бұрын
In 1888 they started a construction project called the chignecto ship railway... the concept was to take two train tracks side by side and pick up ships in the Northumberland straight and relocate them in the Bay of Funday across the Chinecto Isthmus and vice versa. As a project was never finalized I do believe it was near 75% completion when the government refused any more funding, it is now a recreation Trail
@wotan20
@wotan20 9 ай бұрын
Sensationalist B.S. In any case, what happened with the other Panama Canal alternative across Nicaragua?
@who9387
@who9387 9 ай бұрын
@wotan20 - The Chinese billionaire lost a lot of his wealth so gave up the project before it had even started.
@wotan20
@wotan20 9 ай бұрын
@@who9387Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of that. All I knew that at one time was lots of talk about it and excitement, and then nothing, just silence.
@sct4501
@sct4501 9 ай бұрын
Why can't Panama install water pumps to pump the used water from both ends of the canal back up into Lake Gatun ? They could add the cost of pumps and energy back into the ships' passage fee.
@manontondalan9941
@manontondalan9941 9 ай бұрын
because they'll salt-out the lake.
@danielkavanaugh4544
@danielkavanaugh4544 9 ай бұрын
put in desaltation plant then no salt water in lake @@manontondalan9941
@ronsmith7739
@ronsmith7739 9 ай бұрын
We really need to construct a sea level Panama Canal, however it will cost Billions to do this.
@AM-dn4lk
@AM-dn4lk 9 ай бұрын
All the money we gave Ukraine, could have funded many such passageways.
@JanZbedny-qp4ch
@JanZbedny-qp4ch 9 ай бұрын
@@AM-dn4lk Also all the money you gave to Jews...
@jaxcell
@jaxcell 8 ай бұрын
They could employee all those helpless souls coming to America looking for work.
@jackgerberuae
@jackgerberuae 6 ай бұрын
The 2 oceans are not on the same level
@micmdaaussie
@micmdaaussie 8 ай бұрын
What we have is an engineering challenge. What we need is a "dry canal" where the freight ship (any type) is put on a rolling thing like a flatbed rail car then put back in the water like someone with a boat on a trailer hauled by a pickup truck would do. Of course it would need to be supersized. Could it be done? Maybe or maybe not, depending on the weight (mass) of the ship to be moved.
@eddiedelzer8823
@eddiedelzer8823 9 ай бұрын
A better idea is a Mag Lift high speed rail line coast to coast with freight cars traveling 200 miles an hour. Next add slow speed underwater turbines to any nearby rivers or streams moving 2 to 5 miles an hour to supply power for the project.
@Thane36425
@Thane36425 6 ай бұрын
The area has had droughts in the past. Because of that, they had talked about expanding water storage and such, but it didn't really happen. The drought will pass in time and maybe they will improve the system.
@tdcmachine
@tdcmachine Ай бұрын
The number one rule in logistics is to handle product as little as possible. This rail idea is nothing short of a scam.
@bartholomewnathaniel807
@bartholomewnathaniel807 18 күн бұрын
Very informative presentation- thanks!
@blest5132
@blest5132 9 ай бұрын
the blather is strong in this video
@patrickmckowen2999
@patrickmckowen2999 9 ай бұрын
1 to 3 days to unload a ship depending on the size. Than you have to have another ship on the otherside, that is a big expense for the shipping company, reload and get on the way again, so an average of 4 days lost at a much greater expense IMHO. I dont see it being all that popular. Cheers
@rogerfroud300
@rogerfroud300 9 ай бұрын
Why can't they backpump the water used in the locks into the canal? That's the method used in Inland Waterways in the UK. It massively reduces the amount of water used.
@andrewgeorgi7916
@andrewgeorgi7916 9 ай бұрын
I think the new locks already use holding tanks in order to re-use water.
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 9 ай бұрын
too much water to move, can't be done, would take days for each of the 6 locks
@sdfglkjhdfkjdhldskfj
@sdfglkjhdfkjdhldskfj 9 күн бұрын
The value-added is not just the movement, but the reassignment to different ships as part of the process, so the cargo of one ship is transported and put on 10 other ships, and the original ship gets cargo from many ships. If they can do that, that would be really useful.
@CT_Yankee
@CT_Yankee 9 ай бұрын
Now if one could put a container vessel on rails, carry from ocean to ocean, you'd be onto something. A PanaMax carries 5,000 TEU. This would result in a train about 50 miles long. Really? A Post Panamax, introduced after the canal's expansion, carries 14,000 TEUs. Tell me how this would work. Off-load time + transit time + Reload time, no matter how efficient, will not make this very attractive to the global shipping industry.
@timhinchcliffe5372
@timhinchcliffe5372 6 ай бұрын
The difference between the early 1900s and now is that ships now use standard containers which make unloading and loading ships much more efficient.
@timhinchcliffe5372
@timhinchcliffe5372 6 ай бұрын
The Panama canal will still be able to make money from bulk carriers and other ships that don't have containerised cargo.
@rollinkendal8130
@rollinkendal8130 9 ай бұрын
if they pass a naked sunbather, and the crew all gather to one side of the ship to see, the ship could loose balance on the track and fall over.
@philc.9280
@philc.9280 Ай бұрын
I suppose my idea of loading a large ship on some type of road transport and then taking it to the other side is too farfetched.
@dave5176
@dave5176 9 ай бұрын
I thought that climate change was supposed to raise the levels of the oceans and flood everyone out. My bad.
@bobbymac3696
@bobbymac3696 9 ай бұрын
Ha ha ! Now you get it!
@TT-ww8vv
@TT-ww8vv 8 ай бұрын
WOW! What was the purpose of the locks on the canal again?
@sj9918
@sj9918 8 ай бұрын
​@@TT-ww8vvMajor interior water way isfresh water canal which stays at higher level than sea level. So to get water depth in those canals water need to blocks. Therefore locks are required. because of these locks they remain as canals. Else they will be river which cannot be useful for large ship movement. The locks also saved fredh water in the canals...
@TT-ww8vv
@TT-ww8vv 8 ай бұрын
@@sj9918 I was being sarcastic because the lake in question is far enough above sea level and likely won't be facing seawater incursion any time in this century.
@TT-ww8vv
@TT-ww8vv 8 ай бұрын
@sj9918 And you must not have paid attention because that fresh water is dwindling
@bertanelson8062
@bertanelson8062 9 ай бұрын
Nicely explained. Yes, it seems the Mexican corridor will work alongside the Panama canal, offering less waiting time for some cargo ships.
@umtatraining
@umtatraining 9 ай бұрын
Mexico is not just getting billions of dollars in funding by China, but China is setting-up their own factories / using automation, so it's quite likely to develop very very fast. Most of the Container Cranes in the US are made in Shanghai - these very companies are sending similar (more advanced) Container cranes to Mexico. Until Panama finds a way to either use sea-water for it's locks or a mega Desalination plant to replace the water in Gatun (both are extremely expensive and time consuming projects), it's very likely to continue losing business to the Chinese.
@LearnThaiRapidMethod
@LearnThaiRapidMethod Ай бұрын
Nice idea. But my stupid question is why can’t they dig another canal, rather than lay down 300km of railway tracks? Is the terrain not level enough? Or is there a way to perhaps build TWO parallel train tracks, about 50m apart (with two trains running in sync)… and have a giant platform between the two where an entire cargo ship is winched on (like a mobile dry dock). Then you could ferry each ship across. One would need an entire train for each ship, and run about a dozen or so trains each direction (the day shift east-to-west and the night shift west-to-east, say; or build two sets of parallel tracks to ferry ships both directions simultaneously). Each trip would take 6hrs, add an hour each side for loading or off-loading the ship. So you could get about 12 ships across each shift for a single pair of tracks (i.e. 24 ships per day). Or a lot more if you have multiple (four?) loading and off-loading bays and then stagger the trains, perhaps 15 mins apart, that can set off as soon as they’re loaded. 🤓
@LordDustinDeWynd
@LordDustinDeWynd 9 ай бұрын
Dig a sea-level canal from one side of Mexico to the other. It'd be a helluva BIG dig, bigger than the 'big ditch' by orders of magnitude.
@patbrennan6572
@patbrennan6572 Ай бұрын
Why can't they put the ships on a conveyor system and leave all the cargo containers on board. Plenty of high powered motors placed at certain points could keep the conveyor moving at a constant speed.
@jhill4874
@jhill4874 9 ай бұрын
Just 6 hours? But that doesn't include the time it takes to off load a ship, load rail cars, unload rail cars and on load a ship. And the shipping company will require two ships instead of one.
@apveening
@apveening 9 ай бұрын
The unloading of the ship can be done directly onto rail cars and the loading of the ship directly from the rail cars, so no intermediate stacking with associated loss of time. As for needing two ships, while that is true, those ships will each sail less than half the distance (assuming same distances on both sides and subtracting the width of the isthmus), so that should even out.
@Luis_Ah_Hoy_Jr
@Luis_Ah_Hoy_Jr 8 ай бұрын
@@apveening , even so, it does seem logic that using two ships instead of one will make the whole operation relatively more expensive.
@brianw612
@brianw612 Ай бұрын
The diagram at 1:32 is incorrect and it wouldn't work. Both of those lake level columns foreword of the bow need to be the same height, like the two at the stern end. The lake water would waterfall over the top of that lock.
@attiliobarcados8178
@attiliobarcados8178 9 ай бұрын
water in the panama canal is saltwater , right ? so how can it be dry ?
@Gregory-kv8vj
@Gregory-kv8vj 9 ай бұрын
No, it is fresh water. Did you not watch the first part of the video?
@alfonsioux
@alfonsioux 6 ай бұрын
In reality there are two projects here, one is the trans-isthmus corridor and the other is the installation of industrial parks along this road (nearshoring) which will receive raw materials and deliver finished products using this railway that will be distributed to both oceans, There are also railway lines that leave from this place to the east of the United States and also to the west.
@cmdrx5099
@cmdrx5099 9 ай бұрын
All that money and they can't pump water into the canal. Come on, I took up mechanical engineering and I passed a one question finals, one exempted, 44 took the finals & 40 failed. The one question was about water pumping in & pumping out. It ain't rocket science. It's all about $$$$, the $$$$ was & is mishandled or missing. 3.98 million $ was paid to use for one ship, a small portion of that can be used to pump water back in. But...
@Simon_W74
@Simon_W74 9 ай бұрын
I would be more than happy to give them some of rain clouds we have had here in the UK for the last four months giving us record rain fall. It is rare theses days we get to d=see a sky that doesn't have clouds in it or more usual completely greyed out. Even our Summer last years was over cast. Whilst other parts of Europe were having Hot sunny weather we were under cloud. and much colder than normal.
@TomTomicMic
@TomTomicMic 9 ай бұрын
Yes we don't have "major" water shortages and our countryside is actually "green"!?!
@DesireMe-h3k
@DesireMe-h3k 9 ай бұрын
Why don't they just move the whole ship? Via rail?
@benediktmorak4409
@benediktmorak4409 9 ай бұрын
dream on. since the canal is also being used by the USA to bring her fleet from here to there and back. THEY have therefore an interest that the canal will never close.
@bradobbink6564
@bradobbink6564 9 ай бұрын
I thought the ice bergs were melting going to sink florida how does this make sense.
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 9 ай бұрын
yeah, me too, that's what the Climatoids been saying, them fools
@jamescrooks2964
@jamescrooks2964 9 ай бұрын
Pananá already has an operational rail line along the canal route that is used to haul containers between Colon and Balboa. It could be twinned and upgraded fairly easily…
@ghost307
@ghost307 9 ай бұрын
The distance from Singapore to New Jersey via the Panama Canal is almost the same as Singapore to New Jersey via the Suez Canal. I don't see this railroad as much competition to an all-sea route.
@brianmorris8045
@brianmorris8045 9 ай бұрын
It could be a temporary solution...but nevertheless a solution.
@apveening
@apveening 9 ай бұрын
Try the distance between Galveston (Tx) and San Francisco (Cal).
@ghost307
@ghost307 9 ай бұрын
@@apveening What's manufactured in Galveston that needs to go to San Fransisco?
@apveening
@apveening 9 ай бұрын
@@ghost307 Don't know, but there is (or used to be) a shipping route between them going through the Panama canal.
@johnguilfoyle3073
@johnguilfoyle3073 8 күн бұрын
An important difference in the original railway and the modern railway is the Containers. In the early twentieth century, ships and trains were manually loaded and unloaded by Stevedors.
@chevyyyyyyy
@chevyyyyyyy 9 ай бұрын
This video is yet another instance of using the bait & delay tactic, usually going into history, before getting to the point.
@Luis_Ah_Hoy_Jr
@Luis_Ah_Hoy_Jr 8 ай бұрын
I saw nothing wrong with the brief contextualization given in this video, tbh.
@frankvierra2487
@frankvierra2487 Ай бұрын
Very good piece of information
@Apismeliffera
@Apismeliffera 9 ай бұрын
Gota love photo shop...
@timothylegg
@timothylegg 9 ай бұрын
That's why I "Disliked" the video. I don't really want to see this channel again.
@catapetrovich6688
@catapetrovich6688 10 күн бұрын
Creating 'chaos' is how an 'empire' creates its 'monopoly' or 'monopolies' whatever the case may be?
@2011Matz
@2011Matz 9 ай бұрын
Another redundant YT video. There's ten others already. "Beyond Facts" is not interested in informing you. It just wants numbers. And the subject will not kill the Panama Canal, it will compliment it.
@lostvisitor
@lostvisitor 9 ай бұрын
Can some one please explain to me why it is not possible to dig a 30 meter deep trench? I have seen mining operations that were far bigger than that.
@JariJuslin
@JariJuslin 9 ай бұрын
The length of the canal is 82 kilometers so the amount of material you'd have to move is something that takes mining operations decades to go through. And that assumes soil that's compact enough to run record-heavy equipment on, which is not the case for Panama. Also, you'd have to somehow keep the Gajun lake out from that trench, and it sits 26 meters above sea level. I understand one of the main problems with the original construction was that the soil is prone to landslides, ie. digging a trench that's significantly lower than the current water level would need you to build actual walls to hold back the water. The soil itself does not hold that well. If you could just close the canal for a decade and let the lake go dry or salt water, it would work. But that lake is also a critical source of fresh water for the surrounding cities and fields. Finding a completely new spot for the canal, one without major freshwater bodies on it, might work better, but then you need to start from scratch. So most likely they'll wait until the situation is so bad you can clearly show it being profitable in long term for potential investors. As long as there's still hope of us tackling the climate change there's a risk the investment will not ultimately pay back.
@lostvisitor
@lostvisitor 9 ай бұрын
@@JariJuslin Thanks for the explanation. Perhaps if we were not shipping thigs all over the place the climate would be doing better.
@TomTomicMic
@TomTomicMic 9 ай бұрын
​@@lostvisitor The "climate" doesn't care about the weather, it's just the weather, we have to do the same and build things to cope!?!
@lostvisitor
@lostvisitor 9 ай бұрын
@@TomTomicMic or stop building so much so big.
@michaeltarasenkoop2389
@michaeltarasenkoop2389 9 ай бұрын
Why not pump sea water into the canal !
@moracehann5857
@moracehann5857 9 ай бұрын
Seawater will affect drinking water in the lake
@cpcattin
@cpcattin 9 ай бұрын
The salt water intrusion into the freshwater would destroy the ecosystem currently living in the lake. The volume of water required to operate a single locking event would require an enormous amount of electricity. The collection of water from other Panamanian freshwater sources is a much more efficient and permanent solution.
@theone31man
@theone31man 9 ай бұрын
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@rickdavis4456
@rickdavis4456 9 ай бұрын
It is the main water source for most of Panama
@keithkinkelaar3334
@keithkinkelaar3334 9 ай бұрын
Salt water is extremely corrosive and would drastically increase maintenance costs.
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx Ай бұрын
I have my doubts that a sea level canal design for Panama would still be non viable considering how far we have come technologically during the last century.
@daves3819
@daves3819 9 ай бұрын
I didn't realize that Panama was suffering from more than 30 years of drought!! That's terrible and a direct result of anthropogenic global warming climate change (climate change is defined as a minimum of 30 years of change to the climate). WAIT!! you said Oct 2023 was a unusually dry "month" that caused this .... that's not quite 30 years!! So, a year ago everything was fine?? For the past 100 years everything was fine and there were no months in the 1200 past months that were dry?.... That's hard to believe. I call BS!!!
@gabeeaglesland1378
@gabeeaglesland1378 14 күн бұрын
Ok I’m dumb on this subject, so my question is why can’t they let seawater into the canal to raise the water level? What’s the rain fall have to do with it? Or are they combined making the situation what is described?
@rael5469
@rael5469 9 ай бұрын
The Atlantic entrance to the canal is further West than the Pacific side.
@apveening
@apveening 9 ай бұрын
Correct, always a nice trick question for know-it-alls.
@Michael9-23-15
@Michael9-23-15 9 ай бұрын
​@@apveeningJust like the question of what is the farthest Eastern US state? *Alaska
@apveening
@apveening 9 ай бұрын
@@Michael9-23-15 Starting in the center of Detroit (Michigan), going due south, what is the first non-USA country you will enter? *Canada
@Michael9-23-15
@Michael9-23-15 9 ай бұрын
@@apveening Just learned something new today 😁 Also I forgot to say that Alaska is both the farthest Eastern and Western state. This confuses most people. It's a good bar trivia question for a beer.
@namoi45
@namoi45 9 ай бұрын
This is a perfect time to dredge the canal and do repairs. Nature will bring rain soon and the Canal will operate in better condition.
@s_e_r5341
@s_e_r5341 9 ай бұрын
Exaggerating, dramatic comment , pictures sometimes not correct. poor journalism.
@thornil2231
@thornil2231 9 ай бұрын
don't forget to put a thumb down and more important click "do not recommend."
@atyafatima386
@atyafatima386 9 ай бұрын
What about the Chinese Nicaragua Canal? Are the building it? If so, when will it be completed?
@TomTomicMic
@TomTomicMic 9 ай бұрын
No, it went the way of Evergrande!?!
@edwardcarberry1095
@edwardcarberry1095 9 ай бұрын
MORE LIKELY the on going Geoengineering Weather Modification . Go learn about it .
@78suntan
@78suntan 8 ай бұрын
Panama canal has already updated its locks with new larger locks and the water is now recycled by large pools. Just visited the Panama Canal.
@simontaylor2319
@simontaylor2319 9 ай бұрын
Is it necessary that the narrator speaks so loud?
@gryblk21
@gryblk21 9 ай бұрын
Since I watch KZbin on the bus, I always use the captions. Sometimes it doesn't transcribe very well, but it isn't loud at all. 😜
@simontaylor2319
@simontaylor2319 9 ай бұрын
That's only your opinion - thanks Eric M
@audistik1199
@audistik1199 9 ай бұрын
Try turning down the volume.
@simontaylor2319
@simontaylor2319 9 ай бұрын
I had a better idea, I moved on
@lamania32
@lamania32 28 күн бұрын
The time it takes to offload a container ship can vary based on several factors, including the size of the ship and the efficiency of the port. On average, it typically takes 1 to 3 days to unload a container ship under normal conditions. Initial stage involves guiding the vessel to dock safely, which can take about 2 to 4 hours. unload containers from the vessel onto trucks or directly onto the dock, In this case directly to a train car. This step can take 6 to 12 hours depending on the number of containers. In theory takes 6 hrs from cost to coast transport average time saving could be as much as 12 days. You have to think out of the box you are imagine a long train, How about automated self driving train carts on double height, literally as soon as the container secured it could start to transport the goods. The same cart can off load the container and return to the loading dock before the ship is fully off loaded. The current largest container ship is MSC Irina 24,346 TEU so you will need at list half that many self driving carts to off load the largest ship. Will see how they will doit, what we know is China is involved in this project. What we know Shanghai port processing: Monthly throughput record: 4.20M TEU, Total annual container throughput: 43.5M, TEU Vessels in port: 2290, Annual cargo tonnage: 514 million, Number of employees: 13,546, The port of Shanghai is processing approximately 1,100,000 TEUs a day, compared to Port of Long Beach, port of Los Angeles, and San Pedro total about 70K on a good day. They need to process more than 40 ship a day just to be equivalent to the Panama canal
@stevetaylor8298
@stevetaylor8298 9 ай бұрын
As soon as he mentioned, 'climate change', (Oh dread) I stopped watching. Bad planning, bad engineering, stupid money hungry local politicians, that's what has caused this. This was always going to happen, hand it back to the USA.
@scotttoner9231
@scotttoner9231 6 ай бұрын
So with a rail and off/re-load on either side, all transporters need is double the number of ship hulls?
@GH-oi2jf
@GH-oi2jf Ай бұрын
The problem with the Canal is that Panama built additional locks which overtax the water supply. They should close the new locks during periods of low water.
@Armory508
@Armory508 Ай бұрын
How much of the lack of water does the overuse of the canal contribute? Each time ships pass through it uses up water.
@jbird6609
@jbird6609 9 ай бұрын
They need to use less water for the panama canal by pumping the water back. For the cross country dry land option, have a bath tub like container for the ship to enter. With hundreds of wheels under it have it roll cross country to the other side. then have it re-emerge into the water on the other side. Huge engineering investment but cheaper then canal by far.
@PhilJonesIII
@PhilJonesIII 9 ай бұрын
They already do that. Recharging an entire lake on the other hand, presents problems of its own.
@jbird6609
@jbird6609 9 ай бұрын
@@PhilJonesIII Where have you seen moving ships on land? i think its mostly small boats in Europe isnt it? Part of the problem with the panama canal is every time a boat comes through it discharges water. By pumping it back they can save the lake some water.
@jbird6609
@jbird6609 9 ай бұрын
@@PhilJonesIII So where have you seen ships moving across dry land? I would like to see it. Whats the Panama canal water management system? Do you know or just making noise?
@kipper2k
@kipper2k 9 ай бұрын
it cannot match capacity, however they could move enough to make it profitable
@graham2631
@graham2631 9 ай бұрын
It won't put the canal out of business. There's far to much business for that. Todays container ships can have there containers shipped overland. There's a lot more to shipping than boxes of trinkets for housewives.
@ramakalimireddi9083
@ramakalimireddi9083 9 ай бұрын
Panama Canal also they can run a railway line from one end to other end similar Mexico's.
@williamdavidcraigjr7841
@williamdavidcraigjr7841 9 ай бұрын
When I saw the title, I thought Mexico was building its own canal.
@TonyVincent-w5c
@TonyVincent-w5c 8 ай бұрын
Me too.
@PeteH0121
@PeteH0121 9 ай бұрын
Given the huge sums of money at stake I would have thought that sending a few huge tankers full of fresh water through the canal to then offload their water into the lake, just might be a worthwhile endeavor.
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 9 ай бұрын
no,the water needs first to be on the top, on Gatun Lake
@PeteH0121
@PeteH0121 9 ай бұрын
@@josepeixoto3384 Whatever the logistical issues, given the huge amount of money at stake, I'm surprised nobody can come up with a solution.
@kirkjohnson6638
@kirkjohnson6638 5 ай бұрын
The lake that feeds the Panama canal is back at normal level. Gatun lake is up 4.2 feet since last July.
@scorpion19142001
@scorpion19142001 25 күн бұрын
Between Canadian National & Canadian Pacific Railway. Have hauling just about everything for last 100+ years. Both railway companies have rail connections to the Gulf of Mexico. So, what's the big deal?
@bigolwasteatime
@bigolwasteatime 5 күн бұрын
It doesn't matter whether it takes 2 or 8 hours to transport containers if we don't know what the time frame is for loading/unloading Beyondfacts, what are the #'s?
@martinsalmeida321
@martinsalmeida321 5 ай бұрын
With a major overhaul of the Panama Canal, it could operate exclusively with sea water. It would involve a different lock system that would not corrode with sea water, foreseeing environmental concerns with land eventually bathed with sea water and a pumping system to supply sea water, as gravity would not work anymore. Possible but expensive and time consuming, with higher operational costs. But if everything else fails ...
@herickdeharo
@herickdeharo 22 күн бұрын
If it weren't for the Cuban doctor Carlos J. Finlay, who discovered the mosquito that transmits yellow fever, this work would not have been possible to complete. The workers died like flies. They always omit this, it is disrespectful.
@francoisarseneault3142
@francoisarseneault3142 8 ай бұрын
The image of the ship being towed on the rails reminded me of the Fitzcarraldo !!!
@mikec4204
@mikec4204 9 ай бұрын
Check out recent rain patterns in Panama for more than the one year chosen by the presenter. They are not experiencing long-term drought. The main problem with the canal now is that they have widened it to accommodate larger vessels, resulting in more water flowing from Gatun lake above (part of the canal) to the two Oceans below, through wider lock doors. While climate change is happening, it seems too many people are willing to chalk up too many unfortunate events to it, without researching more.
@GordMerrick
@GordMerrick 8 ай бұрын
Gatun Lake is the freshwater lake fed my freshwater rainfall and is key and each and every time a ship is released from passage all that freshwater from Lake Gatun is lost to the seas.
@mikec4204
@mikec4204 8 ай бұрын
@@GordMerrick Right. And my point was that the newer, wider locks they have built when they widened the canal have caused more fresh water to drain off into the oceans, whereas before it was sustainable.
@rickdecastro4584
@rickdecastro4584 8 ай бұрын
How many of those containers will be broken into, or totally diverted?
@jeffreyoneill6439
@jeffreyoneill6439 9 ай бұрын
Also I suspect the canal maybe silting up and becoming shallower.
@BoatbuildingIndia
@BoatbuildingIndia 9 ай бұрын
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@chriswong9158
@chriswong9158 26 күн бұрын
The Chancay sea Port in Peru that just open up November 2024 has close the door of the Mexico's Interoceanic Corridor of the Isthmus of Tehuantepec project. Mexico need better partnership.
@xx3868
@xx3868 9 ай бұрын
Can they dig 2 side by side channels the few hundred km's? or is Mt ect make that not viable? Straight through shipping and less distance down to Panama must save even more for ships?
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